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["insect_keeper" ] 25 Sep No Subject [Barb Beck ] 28 Aug Re: Any suggestions as to what this might be? [Gary Anweiler Edmonton Alberta Canada ] Subject: more unknowns From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:44:27 -0000 Well its that time of year again and the weekly trap has been going out this month, caught to moths last week that I havent been able to ID and i didnt catch them last year so would appreciate any help anyone can give me. Have put the photos in my folder in the photos section. Cheers Pete Boon Nanaimo, BC waiting excitedly for the new Moths of Western North America to hit the shelves! Subject: Re: New photo id question From: Nora Bryan <altacal AT yahoo.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Gary You were in Ottawa? That's where I am now. I've been here a week but I'm heading back tomorrow. Hot and muggy. I don't care - I like it becasue it's a change. Maybe a summer full of it would be less charming.  Nora Bryan Calgary, Alberta CANADA ----- Original Message ---- From: Gary Anweiler To: wcanmoths AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 2:54:21 AM Subject: RE: [WCanMOTHS] New photo id question This is Autographa californica. In Alberta (and at Ottawa where I was last week) things have been muy slow. Hang in there Gary To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogrou ps.comFrom: cliffhanger AT fsmail.netDate: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:19:31 +0000Subject: [WCanMOTHS] New photo id question HiCaught this moth last week can't decide if it is Autographacaliforni ca or Syngrapha celsa and would appreciate any help anyonemay be able to offer with this one.I also have a question about catches as I seem to be catching very fewmoths at the moment, most Ive had recently was 14 but average overlast 5 weeks has been 6 moths per night, this seems rather low to meconsidering I am using a mercury vapour bulb, certainly a lot fewerthan I would have been expecting in UK at this time of year. Also Itrap most weeks but rarely get the same species more than once everyweek see's differnt species caught. What sort of catches are othersgetting. I appreciate the largeness and varied nature of W. Canadawill make a difference. I am in Nanaimo BC.CheersPete ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn. ca/ca55/207 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: New photo id question From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:09:34 -0000 Many thanks Gary Will hang in there and await trapfuls of moths in the summer, when it decides to finally arrive! Cheers Pete --- In WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com, Gary Anweiler wrote: > > > > > This is Autographa californica. > > In Alberta (and at Ottawa where I was last week) things have been muy slow. > > Hang in there > > Gary > > > > To: WCanMOTHS AT ...: cliffhanger AT ...: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:19:31 +0000Subject: [WCanMOTHS] New photo id question > > > > > HiCaught this moth last week can't decide if it is Autographacalifornica or Syngrapha celsa and would appreciate any help anyonemay be able to offer with this one.I also have a question about catches as I seem to be catching very fewmoths at the moment, most Ive had recently was 14 but average overlast 5 weeks has been 6 moths per night, this seems rather low to meconsidering I am using a mercury vapour bulb, certainly a lot fewerthan I would have been expecting in UK at this time of year. Also Itrap most weeks but rarely get the same species more than once everyweek see's differnt species caught. What sort of catches are othersgetting. I appreciate the largeness and varied nature of W. Canadawill make a difference. I am in Nanaimo BC.CheersPete > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! > http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Subject: RE: New photo id question From: Gary Anweiler <gganweiler AT hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:54:21 -0600 This is Autographa californica. In Alberta (and at Ottawa where I was last week) things have been muy slow. Hang in there Gary To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.comFrom: cliffhanger AT fsmail.netDate: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:19:31 +0000Subject: [WCanMOTHS] New photo id question HiCaught this moth last week can't decide if it is Autographacalifornica or Syngrapha celsa and would appreciate any help anyonemay be able to offer with this one.I also have a question about catches as I seem to be catching very fewmoths at the moment, most Ive had recently was 14 but average overlast 5 weeks has been 6 moths per night, this seems rather low to meconsidering I am using a mercury vapour bulb, certainly a lot fewerthan I would have been expecting in UK at this time of year. Also Itrap most weeks but rarely get the same species more than once everyweek see's differnt species caught. What sort of catches are othersgetting. I appreciate the largeness and varied nature of W. Canadawill make a difference. I am in Nanaimo BC.CheersPete _________________________________________________________________ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: New photo id question From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:19:31 -0000 Hi Caught this moth last week can't decide if it is Autographa californica or Syngrapha celsa and would appreciate any help anyone may be able to offer with this one. I also have a question about catches as I seem to be catching very few moths at the moment, most Ive had recently was 14 but average over last 5 weeks has been 6 moths per night, this seems rather low to me considering I am using a mercury vapour bulb, certainly a lot fewer than I would have been expecting in UK at this time of year. Also I trap most weeks but rarely get the same species more than once every week see's differnt species caught. What sort of catches are others getting. I appreciate the largeness and varied nature of W. Canada will make a difference. I am in Nanaimo BC. Cheers Pete Subject: More moths From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 04:04:31 -0000 I must be getting better, I have 3 moths this week, two of which i think I have ided have posted the pictures in my folder. The lappet I think may be southern lappet P. occidentis but would appreciate confirmation. I also need confirmation of the Behrensia conchiformis id. The third moth is rather worn but any ideas gratefully received, as always. Cheers Pete Subject: Re: Recent catches From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 03:05:17 -0000 Dick Many thanks for your help, it was very useful as were your flickr photos, especially being grouped by month, without a good moth book its hard to find information on habitat, flight periods and foodplants, all info that helped a lot back in the UK, I found the various moths on other sites too and your recommendations look excellent to me,the 3rd moth didnt look quite the same as all the other Egira rubica that I caught the same night so if anyone else has any ideas. The wind has died here, Nanaimo BC, so hopefully I'll have a trapful in the morning. Cheers again Pete Subject: Re: Recent catches From: "Dick" <bcfarms AT baycenterfarms.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:38:03 -0000 Hi Pete, Probably can't help much but for what it might be worth: #1 Take a look at; Egira crucialis - Crucialis Woodling Moth 10508 http://www.flickr.com/photos/76798465 AT N00/2393328720/ #2 Could be Orthosia hibisci. Either lacks or is hiding the basal spot I find in most. Perhaps another Orthosia. However, seems somewhat similar to: http://www.flickr.com/photos/76798465 AT N00/2392452391/in/set- 72157604099029221/ Here are some that I am calling variations in this species. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76798465 AT N00/2327389208/in/set- 72157604099029221/ #3 Can't say on this one. Several characters don't match what I'm calling E. rubrica. One I photographed last month and have assigned to E. rubrica. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76798465 AT N00/2440255027/ #4 just sorta guessing on this one ... perhaps look at Curialis Woodling Moth -- Egira curialis And finally we are getting some warm weather ... went from winter to summer in one day. Up to 80F (~27C this afternoon). Now if the wind calms. Dick ======= --- In WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com, "cliffhangerpete2000" wrote: > > Hello again > I'm back with a few more uncertainties, they are in Pete's pics. I > have labelled them with my best guesses but confirmations gratefully > received. > looking forward to getting the trap out tonight as forecast is cloudy > and 13 degrees. > > Cheers > Pete > Subject: Recent catches From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:33:37 -0000 Hello again I'm back with a few more uncertainties, they are in Pete's pics. I have labelled them with my best guesses but confirmations gratefully received. looking forward to getting the trap out tonight as forecast is cloudy and 13 degrees. Cheers Pete Subject: RE recent moths From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:13:28 -0000 Dick Many thanks for those suggestions both look good to me, looking back at my UK records I had trapped small engrailed ( E.crepuscularia) back in the UK last year before i emigrated to Canada! Guess I should have recognised it! Hoping for a better night for trapping this week so may have some more unknowns soon Many thanks Pete Subject: Re: recent moths From: "Dick" <bcfarms AT baycenterfarms.com> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:27:00 -0000 Pete, For #3 .. take a look at Ectropis crepuscularia - Small Engrailed Moth 6597. Dick ====== --- In WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com, "cliffhangerpete2000" wrote: > > After all the cold weather I thought that it was about time my newly > finished moth trap went out and although it was a cold clear night, > not ideal I know, i did catch a few moths and have posted 3 pics in my > photos folder. The first I am fairly confident is a transparent quaker > Orthosia transparens but the others have me stumped, unknown A is > pretty worn but B was fairly fresh. Any help with the ID's would be > gratefully received and also a warmer overcast night this week would > be good too! > > Cheers > pete > Subject: Re: recent moths From: "Dick" <bcfarms AT baycenterfarms.com> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:26:30 -0000 Hi Pete, I wrote a first reply but it came out so messed up I will try again. Your unknown 2 is probably Orthosia hibisci - Speckled Green Fruitworm Moth 10495. I have captured over 100 of these this year and have posted a page in Flickr just to show the variation in this and what appears to be a related species, O. praeses. Take a look; http://www.flickr.com/photos/76798465 AT N00/sets/72157604099029221/ It has been so cold and windy here the moths the past week have been scarce. it even snowed last Monday morning a little. I captured about 10 this morning and they await their picture later this morning. Good luck Dick ======== --- In WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com, "cliffhangerpete2000" wrote: > > After all the cold weather I thought that it was about time my newly > finished moth trap went out and although it was a cold clear night, > not ideal I know, i did catch a few moths and have posted 3 pics in my > photos folder. The first I am fairly confident is a transparent quaker > Orthosia transparens but the others have me stumped, unknown A is > pretty worn but B was fairly fresh. Any help with the ID's would be > gratefully received and also a warmer overcast night this week would > be good too! > > Cheers > pete > Subject: Re: recent moths From: "Dick" <bcfarms AT baycenterfarms.com> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:57:12 -0000 Hi Pete, Your unknown 2 is probably 1065 Orthosia hibisci - Speckled Green Fruitworm Moth 10495. I have had a mass of these this year and have posted a page in Flickr to show the variation in this and what appears to be a related species, O. praeses. Take a look, Orth osia hibisci/praeses variation ======= --- In WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com, "cliffhangerpete2000" wrote: > > After all the cold weather I thought that it was about time my newly > finished moth trap went out and although it was a cold clear night, > not ideal I know, i did catch a few moths and have posted 3 pics in my > photos folder. The first I am fairly confident is a transparent quaker > Orthosia transparens but the others have me stumped, unknown A is > pretty worn but B was fairly fresh. Any help with the ID's would be > gratefully received and also a warmer overcast night this week would > be good too! > > Cheers > pete > Subject: recent moths From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:53:15 -0000 After all the cold weather I thought that it was about time my newly finished moth trap went out and although it was a cold clear night, not ideal I know, i did catch a few moths and have posted 3 pics in my photos folder. The first I am fairly confident is a transparent quaker Orthosia transparens but the others have me stumped, unknown A is pretty worn but B was fairly fresh. Any help with the ID's would be gratefully received and also a warmer overcast night this week would be good too! Cheers pete Subject: RE: Re: First of the year From: "Pohl, Greg" <GPohl AT NRCan.gc.ca> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:06:02 -0500 Hi Nora; I bet your moths are Alucita, not Eupithecia - different family, same small greyish look, superficially. Do yours have divided wings, like a fan? If so then they're Alucita - my house and garage are full of 'em this week. Greg Greg R. Pohl - Biologist Canadian Forest Service - Edmonton "I would rather live with unanswered questions than unquestioned answers." - Valerie Tarico ________________________________ From: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nora Bryan Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 6:13 PM To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com; Altaleps Subject: Re: [WCanMOTHS] Re: First of the year Same as last year, my first moths this year are the little 'pugs' - the Eupithecias pressed flat on the kitchen cupboards, or walls. Never know where I will see them but I just let them fly around in the house. Soon they will be joined by Caloptila I think. Nora Bryan Calgary, Alberta CANADA ----- Original Message ---- From: cliffhangerpete2000 > To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:52:29 AM Subject: [WCanMOTHS] Re: First of the year Thanks Gary I found it on the moth photographers site late last night but its nice to have it confirmed. Pete Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: Re: First of the year From: Nora Bryan <altacal AT yahoo.ca> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:12:52 -0800 (PST) Same as last year, my first moths this year are the little 'pugs' - the Eupithecias pressed flat on the kitchen cupboards, or walls. Never know where I will see them but I just let them fly around in the house. Soon they will be joined by Caloptila I think. Nora Bryan Calgary, Alberta CANADA ----- Original Message ---- From: cliffhangerpete2000 To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:52:29 AM Subject: [WCanMOTHS] Re: First of the year Thanks Gary I found it on the moth photographers site late last night but its nice to have it confirmed. Pete Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: First of the year From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:52:29 -0000 Thanks Gary I found it on the moth photographers site late last night but its nice to have it confirmed. Pete Subject: RE: First of the year From: Gary Anweiler <gganweiler AT hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:25:23 -0700 Hi Your moth is a geometrid - Triphosa haesitata. If I am not mistaken they are a hibernator sometimes found in caves I am not aware of any good guides to BC moths - several good web sites (Tatum's for one) and of course Moths of Canada and the Moth photographers sites. But best of all you have these newsgroups and the ability to post images! have fun Gary Anweiler To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.comFrom: cliffhanger AT fsmail.netDate: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:34:52 +0000Subject: [WCanMOTHS] First of the year My moth trap is almost complete and tonight my son found the firstlarge moth of the year in our porch. I have posted a picture in thephotos section in Pete's moths album. Anyone help with an id and cananyone suggest a book of common moths of BC to help get me started onthe iding of my catches, have found the moths of Canada site but ittakes a long time to hunt through each time so a basic fieldguidewould be great to get me to the right tribe. will put the trap outnext week once the full moon has gone and see what I get.CheersPete _________________________________________________________________ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: First of the year From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:34:52 -0000 My moth trap is almost complete and tonight my son found the first large moth of the year in our porch. I have posted a picture in the photos section in Pete's moths album. Anyone help with an id and can anyone suggest a book of common moths of BC to help get me started on the iding of my catches, have found the moths of Canada site but it takes a long time to hunt through each time so a basic fieldguide would be great to get me to the right tribe. will put the trap out next week once the full moon has gone and see what I get. Cheers Pete Subject: Thanks From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:00:16 -0000 Thanks for the advice, I have ordered a bulb from bioquip and am in the process of building the rest of the trap, I thought I would post these links here from a UK birding site which give details of homebuild moth traps as they may be of interest, I built a skinner type in the uk and ran it with a 25W actinic bulb but now I have more space I'm building a Robinson type will keep you posted with lots of identification queries I guess. http://www.tcdigitalphotography.co.uk/diy_robinson_trap.htm http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=38665 http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=36446 http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=33198 Cheers Pete Subject: Hungry Spider From: "Wayne Hewitt" <wayne.hewitt AT shaw.ca> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:06:57 -0000 As I was leaving the house for an appointment I noticed a moth on its back on the wall of the house and it appeared to be struggling. On inspection it was in the grips of a spider. I was late for the appointment so I could not watch the entire drama but I took a few shots - unfortunately I did not have a close-up lens. I have posted four shots. In the first, you can see the general layout. The bugs are on a metal corner of the siding of the house. For thiose of you who might want a size comparison, the witdth of the corner peice at the level the bugs are at is 1 3/16 inches. The second shot is an enlargement of the first. In the second and third shots the spider is moving the moth towards the edge of the corner piece. The spider then anchored in the space between the metal and the actual siding (about an 1/8 inch gap). During the several minutes I watched the moth was struggling - moving its legs and its body. I saw the spider lift the entire moth up off the siding. I had to leave so did not see the end. When I got back the moth was on the concrete and I could not locate the spider. Subject: RE: Moth trapping supplies From: Daniel Glaeske <glaeske.md AT sasktel.net> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:02:21 -0600 I pressed send too soon! I guess I thought for some reason you were in Calgary. Sorry for any confusion, but my offer still stands. Daniel Glaeske St. Victor, SK _____ From: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cliffhangerpete2000 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:17 PM To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [WCanMOTHS] Moth trapping supplies Hi My name is Peter Boon and I recently moved to Canada from the UK and am looking to build myself a new moth trap, donated my UK one to a friend, any advice on where I can obtain mercury vapour bulbs and ballsts would be very gratefully recieved. Also is there a standard text for use when identifying Canadian macro moths. Many thanks Peter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: RE: Moth trapping supplies From: Daniel Glaeske <glaeske.md AT sasktel.net> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:10:21 -0600 Bioquip should have mercury vapour bulbs and ballasts – that’s where I get mine from. As far as I know there is no “standard” text for Canadian macros, but Handfield’s “Papillons de Quebec” is excellent if you have some basic French. McGuffin has a good series on the Geometrids in the Memoirs of the Canadian Entomological Society (if you’re interested I’ll email you the exact references) – the last volume (on genus Eupithecia in the Larentiinae) was done by Bolte. The best couple of resources I’ve found are the Strickland Museum website http://virtual-museum.sunsite.ualberta.ca/dig/search/ent/index.html and Troubridge and Lafontaine’s Moths of Canada site http://www.cbif.gc.ca/spp_pages/misc_moths/phps/mothindex_e.php, though the latter site does not have much in the way of text descriptions. I live about 8 hours east of you in Saskatchewan. If you’re interested in traveling a bit, I plan to do some trapping in the Cypress Hills/Medicine Hat/Burstall area next year – my father has just moved to Burstall, which is near the Great Sand Hills, and full of interesting species, including Hardwick’s Geometer Animomyia hardwickii, that is only known from a single male specimen. Email if your interested. Daniel Glaeske, St. Victor, SK _____ From: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cliffhangerpete2000 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:17 PM To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [WCanMOTHS] Moth trapping supplies Hi My name is Peter Boon and I recently moved to Canada from the UK and am looking to build myself a new moth trap, donated my UK one to a friend, any advice on where I can obtain mercury vapour bulbs and ballsts would be very gratefully recieved. Also is there a standard text for use when identifying Canadian macro moths. Many thanks Peter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re:Moth trapping supplies From: Ian Gardiner <runerider1 AT shaw.ca> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:39:43 -0600 Hi Peter, They have them at www.bioquip.com Remember to leave the 'u' out of 'vapor' when you search. Ian Gardiner Calgary, AB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: Moth trapping supplies From: Nora Bryan <altacal AT yahoo.ca> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Hi Peter What Greg says is worth following up - in detail! Here are the guys and gals that KNOW. I'm not one of them, but I'm learning. Also, the site http://www.cbif.gc.ca/spp_pages/misc_moths/phps/mothindex_e.php has been extremely helpful to me. I don't think there is any way there will ever be anything comprehensive as a printed guide - just way too many species compared to the UK but I think maybe, if I'm guessing right that there could be some more really nice stuff coming in following years - from some key people in Alberta Leps. Nora Bryan Calgary, Alberta CANADA ----- Original Message ---- From: cliffhangerpete2000 To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:16:43 PM Subject: [WCanMOTHS] Moth trapping supplies Hi My name is Peter Boon and I recently moved to Canada from the UK and am looking to build myself a new moth trap, donated my UK one to a friend, any advice on where I can obtain mercury vapour bulbs and ballsts would be very gratefully recieved. Also is there a standard text for use when identifying Canadian macro moths. Many thanks Peter Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: RE: Moth trapping supplies From: "Pohl, Greg" <GPohl AT NRCan.gc.ca> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:57:21 -0400 Hello Pete; welcome to Canada! What part of the country are you in? If it's in the west, I recommend you get involved with the Alberta Lepidopterists Guild: http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/old_site/uasm//alg/index.html even if you're not in the west, it's worthwhile getting onto the e-list, this is a really active bunch of amateur and professional lep enthusiasts. (OK, I'm the prez, so mebbe i'm a bit biased...) Some of our links are out of date, but there's some good info up there still. I thought we had some plans and part source info for building traps and lights on the website, but I couldn't find it just now. I can get back to you later with that info, I know i have it somewhere if you don't get it sent from another ALG person soon. Here's a couple of websites you will likely appreciate: U of Alberta Strickland museum: http://www.entomology.ualberta.ca/ lots of western spp pages and data. I've put up a checklist of North American micromoths on this site: http://cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/subsite/nofc-biodiversity/faunistics let me know if this group is your forte and I can send you a more recent version. and finally, here's a fabulous government site with images of all canadan macromoth species: http://www.cbif.gc.ca/spp_pages/misc_moths/phps/mothindex_e.php this site was done by top-notch systematists. What are your interest areas? Greg Greg R. Pohl - Biologist Canadian Forest Service - Edmonton "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution" - T. Dobzhansky ________________________________ From: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cliffhangerpete2000 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:17 PM To: WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [WCanMOTHS] Moth trapping supplies Hi My name is Peter Boon and I recently moved to Canada from the UK and am looking to build myself a new moth trap, donated my UK one to a friend, any advice on where I can obtain mercury vapour bulbs and ballsts would be very gratefully recieved. Also is there a standard text for use when identifying Canadian macro moths. Many thanks Peter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Moth trapping supplies From: "cliffhangerpete2000" <cliffhanger AT fsmail.net> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:16:43 -0000 Hi My name is Peter Boon and I recently moved to Canada from the UK and am looking to build myself a new moth trap, donated my UK one to a friend, any advice on where I can obtain mercury vapour bulbs and ballsts would be very gratefully recieved. Also is there a standard text for use when identifying Canadian macro moths. Many thanks Peter Subject: Re: Moth Id help From: "altacal" <altacal AT yahoo.ca> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:11:31 -0000 Hi Barb Perhaps it is the Chain-spotted geometer; Cingilia catenaria. It is consistent in looks, location and time of year. There isn't an image, but it is described on the Strickland Virtual Museum. I think this is not a common moth. Nora Bryan Calgary, AB --- In WCanMOTHS AT yahoogroups.com, Barb Beck wrote: > > Hi, > > I just put 3 photos of a moth in my folder. This moth was photographed > by Kent Russell, one of the survivors of my class. The location was a > patterned fen in the Boreal Plains of Alberta. > > I looked through Covell in my very uneducated way but the only thing I > found similar was apparently (and hopefully) way out of range. > > What do you moth experts have to say. > > Barb Beck > Edmonton > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/lst Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WCanMOTHS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Subject: Moth Id help From: Barb Beck <barb.beck AT ualberta.ca> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:31:44 -0600 Hi, I just put 3 photos of a moth in my folder. This moth was photographed by Kent Russell, one of the survivors of my class. The location was a patterned fen in the Boreal Plains of Alberta. I looked through Covell in my very uneducated way but the only thing I found similar was apparently (and hopefully) way out of range. What do you moth experts have to say. Barb Beck Edmonton [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/lst Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WCanMOTHS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Subject: Re: Interesting Caterpillar Photo Uploaded From: Nora Bryan <altacal AT yahoo.ca> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Hi Wayne It seems like except for the big caterpillars like silk moths, sphinx moths and some of the bigger butterflies, caterpilars are not that well known by the average lepidopterist. I saw a similary patterned one on fireweed and it was doing the typical 'inchworm' thing. If yours was, you might guess it is a geometrid moth caterpillar. Nora Bryan Calgary, Alberta CANADA --------------------------------- All new Yahoo! Mail - --------------------------------- Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/lst Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WCanMOTHS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Subject: Interesting Caterpillar Photo Uploaded From: "Wayne Hewitt" <wayne.hewitt AT shaw.ca> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:54:12 -0000 I have posted a photo of an interesting looking caterpillar that was exploring the seed pods on a number of our columbines this past week. I tried to find out wat it was but have found the pics in my only my only reference somewhat lacking. I have assumed it was a moth of some sort but perhaps it is a butterfly. Anyone have any thoughts? <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/lst Yahoo! 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Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WCanMOTHS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Subject: No Subject From: Barb Beck <barb.beck AT ualberta.ca> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 08:25:15 -0600 Hi, I got this request from Ken Philip Barb Beck, Edmonton, Alberta -------- Original Message -------- Subject: _Noctua pronuba_ Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:47:43 -0800 (AKDT) From: Kenelm W Philip To: barb AT birdnut.obtuse.com Barb: Can you put me in touch with anyone who might be up-to-date on the occurrence of the European pest noctuid _Noctua pronuba_ (large yellow underwing) in western Canada? A few weeks ago I obtained a good series of this undesirable species in Haines, SE Alaska, and I am very curious to know what is the nearest place to SE Alaska that it has reached so far in its 26-year westward spread from its 1979 introduction in Nova Scotia. I know it got to Colorado (a single specimen) in 1999, but I have no information on what's happened since then. Ken Philip He also added in another message: I have just received from Rob Vandermoor a description of the major outbreak of _N. pronuba_ this summer in the Vancouver, BC area. My main question now is whether there have been any records from more northerly areas in BC (thus nearer to Haines, AK). Ken ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/BCYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/lst Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanMOTHS/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WCanMOTHS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Subject: Re: Any suggestions as to what this might be? From: Gary Anweiler Edmonton Alberta Canada <gganweiler AT sprint.ca> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:24:57 -0600 Hi These are almost certainly Hemileuca hera - the Sagebush Sheep Moth - known in Alberta from a single specimen from Dinosaur Provincial Park. They have also been collected in sagebrush in southern Saskatchewan. They are as you describe - and are day-flying. I hope someone has collected one as a voucher. A great record if confirmed ! Gary Anweiler ----- Original Message ----- From: Barb Beck To: WCanMoths AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: [WCanMOTHS] Any suggestions as to what this might be? I got this note from one of my former victims (students) Any suggestions? One of my field assistants has seen ~7 big white butterfly/moth and we're trying to figure out what they might be. It has a big bright orange body. The wings are white but the cells are outlined black like on a monarch. It is ~monarch sized. She describes it as abit like if a monarch were really white not orange and the body were orange not black. She's been seeing them by the little creeks that run around Manyberries. Barb Beck Edmonton ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "WCanMOTHS" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WCanMOTHS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com c.. 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