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22 Jan New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 9 Jan New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 9 Jan New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 9 Jan New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 9 Jan New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 2 Jan New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 2 Jan New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 2 Jan New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 24 Dec New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 24 Dec New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 24 Dec New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 4 Dec New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 1 Dec New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 1 Dec New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 1 Dec New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 27 Aug Acmon Blue ["Norbert Kondla" ] 27 Aug Plebejus acmon found in Grasslands NP Sask. [] 23 Aug Mormon Metalmark Survey in Grasslands National Park, Sask. [] 14 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 13 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 10 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 8 Aug The Odd Frit ["Norbert Kondla" ] 8 Aug RE: Odd Meadow Fritillary ["Grkovich, Alex" ] 07 Aug Odd Meadow Fritillary [Adam Blake ] 5 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 2 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 2 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 02 Aug Cadomin/Cardinal Divide Butterfly Count Sunday July 31. [] 1 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 1 Aug New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 31 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 27 Jul Some butterfly pics ["Norbert Kondla" ] 26 Jul Cadomin/Cardinal Divide butterfly count this coming Sunday! [] 21 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 20 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 20 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 20 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 19 Jul Northern Pearly Eye..I found more! [] 17 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 16 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 14 Jul Another cryptic butterfly species -- ["Norbert Kondla" ] 13 Jul An egleis snippet -- ["Norbert Kondla" ] 13 Jul Speyeria egleis ["Norbert Kondla" ] 8 Jul Re: Bog azures ["Cris Guppy" ] 8 Jul Re: Bog azures ["Cris Guppy" ] 7 Jul Re: Bog azures [] 7 Jul another bog azure observation ["Norbert Kondla" ] 7 Jul Re: Bog azures ["Cris Guppy" ] 07 Jul Bog azures ["zapjammer" ] 06 Jul Re: Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure [Barb Beck ] 6 Jul Re: Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure ["Cris Guppy" ] 6 Jul Re: Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure ["Cris Guppy" ] 6 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 05 Jul Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure [] 6 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 6 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 4 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Jul Bog Azure ["Norbert Kondla" ] 5 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 5 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 4 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 02 Jul Enodia anthedon/Lac la Biche. [] 1 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 1 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 1 Jul New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 28 Jun New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] 28 Jun New file uploaded to WCanButterflies [] Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 22 Jan 2012 16:51:00 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Polygonia oreas threatfuli pair.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Polygonia%20oreas%20threatfuli%20pair.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 9 Jan 2012 19:46:53 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Some Glaucopsyche lygdamus.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Some%20Glaucopsyche%20lygdamus.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 9 Jan 2012 19:44:22 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Polygonia satyrus.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Polygonia%20satyrus.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 9 Jan 2012 19:42:26 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Polygonia gracilis and zephyrus.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Polygonia%20gracilis%20and%20zephyrus.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 9 Jan 2012 19:37:41 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /A Few Porcupine Hills Polygonia.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/A%20Few%20Porcupine%20Hills%20Polygonia.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 2 Jan 2012 22:21:59 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Two Plebejus anna.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Two%20Plebejus%20anna.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 2 Jan 2012 22:18:32 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Lycaena heteronea.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Lycaena%20heteronea.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 2 Jan 2012 22:17:41 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Four Mitoura Females1.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Four%20Mitoura%20Females1.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 24 Dec 2011 00:14:29 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Fresh antiopa vs hyperborea.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Fresh%20antiopa%20vs%20hyperborea.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 24 Dec 2011 00:13:53 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Some Colias Eye Candy.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Some%20Colias%20Eye%20Candy.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 24 Dec 2011 00:13:11 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Three Mitoura Females.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Three%20Mitoura%20Females.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 4 Dec 2011 02:20:36 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Some Phyciodes.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Some%20Phyciodes.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 1 Dec 2011 17:45:37 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /A Few Phyciodes pallidus.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/A%20Few%20Phyciodes%20pallidus.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 1 Dec 2011 17:41:52 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /A Few Prairie Phyciodes.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/A%20Few%20Prairie%20Phyciodes.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 1 Dec 2011 17:40:08 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Four Phyciodes 2.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Four%20Phyciodes%202.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Acmon Blue From: "Norbert Kondla" <colias AT shaw.ca> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 09:12:23 -0600 Here is what Pohl et al 2010 said about acmon in Alberta. This applies to Saskatchewan populations also. Only difference is that I don't know of any records of the late-flying entity from Alberta. Aricia lupini - Populations listed under the name Plebejus (= Aricia) acmon (Westwood) in Bird et al. (1995), Layberry et al. (1998), and Guppy and Shepard (2001) are herein treated in accordance with the revised approach suggested by Scott (1998b): he limited application of the species A. acmon to the west coast area from WA to Baja California and placed all other populations under A. lupini. This view was subsequently adopted by Opler (2003), who correctly noted that research is needed to clarify how many species-leval taxa actually exist in the acmon-lupini complex in western Canada and United States. See Warren (2005) for a recent discussion of this issue. It is possible that the subspecific name lutzi (dos Passos) might apply to some AB mountain populations but this is not certain. It appears that AB populations are taxonomically undescribed at the species and subspecies level and the name A. lupini is used herein simply because there is no better name available. AB appears to be home to two or three Aricia species that have no name and are lumped herein owing to lack of knowledge about how they should be classified. Use of the subspecific name spangelatus (Burdick) by some authors (e.g., Layberry et al. 1998) for AB populations is not appropriate because that taxon is limited to the Olympic Peninsula of WA. Norbert Kondla Calgary, Alberta [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Plebejus acmon found in Grasslands NP Sask. From: vintagebob AT shaw.ca Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 05:35:35 -0000 I was quite surprised to find a healthy population of Acmon Blue whilst taking part/volunteering in the Mormon M survey last week. One of the host plants is certified as Eriogonum spp which is also home to the Metalmark. I was unable to collect naturally but hope to remedy the situation next year when I intend to return. There appear to be some discussions about Acmon Blue in Alberta...what are we actually seeing out in the field? I was interested to read that Plebejus Acmon is usually associated with the southern mountain foothills, as well as some central AB parkland and prairie. Does anyone care to add their thoughts?! ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Mormon Metalmark Survey in Grasslands National Park, Sask. From: vintagebob AT shaw.ca Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:40:09 -0000 I spent a very interesting and educational week assisting/volunteering in the MM survey, organised by Parks Canada and 2 (U of Alberta) very experienced students. In the last ten days, I believe close to 500 butterflies have been marked. All here know the kind of habitat I think...each day we visited about 7 sites which were all quite productive. Very hot dry conditions made my week very memorable. I had read about the work being done there through a Blue Jay article and I was hooked. I hope to write an article on my experience when time permits! Bob Parsons, Edmonton Nature Club. ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 14 Aug 2011 14:44:36 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Cloak color by numbers.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Cloak%20color%20by%20numbers.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 13 Aug 2011 14:59:18 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Some male Enodia.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Some%20male%20Enodia.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 10 Aug 2011 14:32:08 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Some Erynnis.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Some%20Erynnis.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: The Odd Frit From: "Norbert Kondla" <colias AT shaw.ca> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:54:19 -0600 Adam, based on location, time of year and appearance, I consider this to unambiguously be bellona. The margin of the left forewing that is visible certainly shows the 'bellona shape'. It is not unusual for so-called 'diagnostic' characters in butterflies to not be 100% diagnostic due to individual variation or aberrant individuals. In my experience the 'squared' forewing shape is sometimes not all that pronounced. Also shape character descriptions are normally based on (and best seen on) perpendicular views of museum specimens (or butterflies in hand) and perspectives in nature photographs with variable wing positions and viewing angles will not necessarily provide the same perception of shape Norbert Kondla Calgary [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: RE: Odd Meadow Fritillary From: "Grkovich, Alex" <agrkovich AT tmpeng.com> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 08:38:26 -0400 Adam, The authors of the Butts of Canada note that there are integgrades between bellona and frigga along the James Bay Highway in Quebec...This could be something along the lines of your specimen.... Alex ________________________________ From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam Blake Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:19 PM To: WCanButterflies Subject: [WCanButterflies] Odd Meadow Fritillary Hi All, Took a photo of a Boloria spp. butterfly near Leroy, Saskatchewan. I initially thought it was a Meadow Fritillary (Boloria bellona) but it lacks the squared off fore wing. Any thoughts? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajblake/sets/72157627372549368/ Thanks, Adam Blake Edmonton -- Adam Blake 1-20 E AgFor University of Alberta phone: 780-492-1778 cell: 780-977-7379 email:adam AT ajblake.info ________________________________ CAUTION PLEASE NOTE: The information contained in this transmission is intended to be sent only to the stated recipient of the transmission. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the intended recipient's agent, you are hereby notified that we do not intend to waive any privilege that might ordinarily be attached to this communication. Any dissemination, distribution or copying of the information contained in this transmission is therefore prohibited. You are further asked to notify us of any such error in transmission as soon as possible at the telephone number/email address shown above. Thank you for your cooperation. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Odd Meadow Fritillary From: Adam Blake <adam AT ajblake.info> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:19:27 -0600 Hi All, Took a photo of a Boloria spp. butterfly near Leroy, Saskatchewan. I initially thought it was a Meadow Fritillary (Boloria bellona) but it lacks the squared off fore wing. Any thoughts? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajblake/sets/72157627372549368/ Thanks, Adam Blake Edmonton -- Adam Blake 1-20 E AgFor University of Alberta phone: 780-492-1778 cell: 780-977-7379 email:adam AT ajblake.info ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 5 Aug 2011 17:03:19 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Three Summer Colias philodice.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Three%20Summer%20Colias%20philodice.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 5 Aug 2011 13:29:12 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Yarrow Creek Colias2.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Yarrow%20Creek%20Colias2.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 5 Aug 2011 13:25:02 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Some BC Colias edwardsii variation.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Some%20BC%20Colias%20edwardsii%20variation.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 2 Aug 2011 20:27:05 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Specimen Photography-exposure.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Specimen%20Photography-exposure.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 2 Aug 2011 20:23:10 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Color temperature.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Color%20temperature.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Cadomin/Cardinal Divide Butterfly Count Sunday July 31. From: vintagebob AT shaw.ca Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 00:44:22 -0000 5 participants (4 from Hinton area) took part on Sunday but weather conditions were not ideal with very little sun. I did a fair amount of scouting on Saturday...Prospect Creek, Wildhorse Creek and experienced fine weather conditions. Large numbers of Rustic Blues, Purple and Mormon Fritillary and as usual I snagged some Christina Sulphur. Two butterflies stood out..the Artic Skipper seems bigger than the ones I have seen down south, and some Mormons had quite dark dorsal surfaces. Norbert confirms there is quite some variation which is of interest. Terrific scenery goes without saying! ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 1 Aug 2011 15:46:35 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. 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File : /Two Pyrgus.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Two%20Pyrgus.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Some butterfly pics From: "Norbert Kondla" <colias AT shaw.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:07:47 -0600 Max Larrive has been traveling in western Canada recently and has been busy with his camera. Some very nice butterfly and other pics available in his pbase folders: http://www.pbase.com/isotria/2011 The one that caused me to salivate is the venter shot of Lycaena nivalis in the Okanagan July folder ---- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Cadomin/Cardinal Divide butterfly count this coming Sunday! From: vintagebob AT shaw.ca Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:33:15 -0000 Always a fine turnout with folks from Hinton and Switzer PP staff. Prospect Creek, Wildhorse Creek and maybe even Harris Creek should be fun. Bob Parsons. 780-488-1344 ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 21 Jul 2011 15:45:59 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. 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File : /Speyeria mating pairs.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Speyeria%20mating%20pairs.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Northern Pearly Eye..I found more! From: vintagebob AT shaw.ca Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 04:07:21 -0000 Yesterday I was in the Clyde fens area north of Edmonton. Just south of Bouchard Lake on a well sheltered sandy road I came across a small group of Enodia Anthedon. The ventral hindwings were not as well marked as the samples I collected recently at Lac La Biche...less gray I guess. I am no expert but feel sure Norbert will be interested in my findings when I submit samples to him . Quite a few fast flyer frits too, including Great Spangled. ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 17 Jul 2011 14:28:46 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. 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File : /Three Pieris females.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Three%20Pieris%20females.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Another cryptic butterfly species -- From: "Norbert Kondla" <colias AT shaw.ca> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:08:36 -0600 http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/15889380/2046998143/name/Dinca+et+al+2011_juver nica.pdf Fun stuff; just another example of how little visual similariity by itself actually means --- of course the same applies to visual dissimilarity by itself However I do admit that a tailed blue and a monarch are reasonably considered different species without having to see any statistics or 15 different kinds of gene sequences etc etc The pattern that I continue to see is that when critters look very different (and there are also other reasons to think they are different species) there is usually little or no variation in taxonomic opinions. But whenever any two species of animals look even remotely similar; we can expect to see variation in taxonomic opinions, regardless of supplemental information. I suppose one could make a sick joke that animals really don't vary; but rather it is human eyesight and human opinions/decisions etc. that vary --- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: An egleis snippet -- From: "Norbert Kondla" <colias AT shaw.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:52:20 -0600 Oops, I forgot to mention that I really like the quote that Bob Pyle provided in his Cascadia book on the purported species egleis, sensu dos Passos & Grey frit hypothesis: "Washington collectors prize it highly but often are not quite sure if they have it or not" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Speyeria egleis From: "Norbert Kondla" <colias AT shaw.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:34:31 -0600 I put the file 'Alberta egleis.pdf' into the files section. Frit fans might find the illustrated specimen interesting and are welcome to comment on the taxonomic identity as they see it. Note that the image scale is arbitrary. Anyone and everyone might be interested in this example of how dramatically the appearance of a humble insect can vary in accordance with imaging technology and light source/color temperature. In my opinion it would be a dreadful mistake for anyone to formulate taxonomic opinions from comparison of butterfly images taken in nature, given the huge natural variation in color temperature of sunlight/skylight combinations and the variation created by sundry sensing devices and camera settings. The same can be said about using printed-on-paper book pics. Use caution is the operative principle. Critical comparisons are best done from actual specimens viewed under good lighting or digicam images captured under controlled lighting with good white balance calibration. People who are filthy rich or who can leech off money or tools provided by someone else, certainly have a broader range of technology available for their comparisons. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Re: Bog azures From: "Cris Guppy" <cguppy AT quesnelbc.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 20:05:10 -0700 Sorry everyone for not sending this directly to Rick! :) Cris ----- Original Message ----- From: Cris Guppy To: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures Hi Rick, I cannot comment on birds -- I do not pay any attention to them except when they are eating butterflies. :) Adrian Leather is the Quesnel birder to talk to, but I do not have any contact info. I have been in Quesnel for almost 2 weeks, after spending the rest of June in Whitehorse (where I have movved). Today I drove to Blackwater Gold (mine), about 150 km south of Vanderhoof -- hoping for sunshine on the weekend to inventory butterflies. On Monday I am heading back to Whitehorse, for more work up there. Sorry I could not be of more help, Cris ----- Original Message ----- From: r.howie AT shaw.ca To: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures Hi Cris: with apologies to the butterfly group, but I am in Quesnel without your new email and have wanted to ask you a bird question. We found White-throated Sparrows singing quite commonly in West Quesnel. Is this species regular here? Heavy rains and wind means that no leps have been visible here lately. Brrrr. Thanks. Rick Howie Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -----Original Message----- From: Cris Guppy Sender: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:32:44 To: Reply-to: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures I have long suspected that willow catkins might be used by Celastrina in BC and the Yukon, both for normal C. lucia and the Bog Azure, so it is interesting to here of one documented use. In the Yukon normal C. lucia seems to be in non-Ledum areas, using red-osier dogwood near Rancheria, and bearberry (Arctostaphylos) elsewhere. This year near the north end of the Atlin Road I found two bog sites with the Bog Azure using Ledum, and immediately adjacent normal C. lucia populations using bearberry.There was some mixing of phenotypes, but not a lot. I have found this in central BC as well. The options seem to be that either they are genetically the same, and feeding on Ledum induces the Bog Azure phenotype, or they are genetically distinct species. Need to do some rearing under standardized conditions ... :) Cris Guppy ----- Original Message ----- From: zapjammer To: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:28 PM Subject: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures Cris, Of note in regard to your post on bog azures and something to look for as you wander the wilds up there is my recovery of a C.lucia larva from a willow catkin in Dawson City proper. I did not ID the species of willow. It would be interesting to document foodplant usage throughout the Yukon (or anyplace else the Bog azure roams). In western Washington we see foodplant specialization, for example on Cornus sericea and various Spiraea. In eastern Washington on Ceanothus velutinus. Outside of these specializations there occur populations using other plants and we are in the middle of documenting this. I compare it to another flower-fruit specialist, gray hairstreaks (Strymon melinus). These are capable and usually do use a number of foodplants in a single locality which contrasts with C.echo. This may not be significant, but maybe it is. J.P.Pelham [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Re: Bog azures From: "Cris Guppy" <cguppy AT quesnelbc.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 19:52:05 -0700 Hi Rick, I cannot comment on birds -- I do not pay any attention to them except when they are eating butterflies. :) Adrian Leather is the Quesnel birder to talk to, but I do not have any contact info. I have been in Quesnel for almost 2 weeks, after spending the rest of June in Whitehorse (where I have movved). Today I drove to Blackwater Gold (mine), about 150 km south of Vanderhoof -- hoping for sunshine on the weekend to inventory butterflies. On Monday I am heading back to Whitehorse, for more work up there. Sorry I could not be of more help, Cris ----- Original Message ----- From: r.howie AT shaw.ca To: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures Hi Cris: with apologies to the butterfly group, but I am in Quesnel without your new email and have wanted to ask you a bird question. We found White-throated Sparrows singing quite commonly in West Quesnel. Is this species regular here? Heavy rains and wind means that no leps have been visible here lately. Brrrr. Thanks. Rick Howie Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -----Original Message----- From: Cris Guppy Sender: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:32:44 To: Reply-to: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures I have long suspected that willow catkins might be used by Celastrina in BC and the Yukon, both for normal C. lucia and the Bog Azure, so it is interesting to here of one documented use. In the Yukon normal C. lucia seems to be in non-Ledum areas, using red-osier dogwood near Rancheria, and bearberry (Arctostaphylos) elsewhere. This year near the north end of the Atlin Road I found two bog sites with the Bog Azure using Ledum, and immediately adjacent normal C. lucia populations using bearberry.There was some mixing of phenotypes, but not a lot. I have found this in central BC as well. The options seem to be that either they are genetically the same, and feeding on Ledum induces the Bog Azure phenotype, or they are genetically distinct species. Need to do some rearing under standardized conditions ... :) Cris Guppy ----- Original Message ----- From: zapjammer To: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:28 PM Subject: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures Cris, Of note in regard to your post on bog azures and something to look for as you wander the wilds up there is my recovery of a C.lucia larva from a willow catkin in Dawson City proper. I did not ID the species of willow. It would be interesting to document foodplant usage throughout the Yukon (or anyplace else the Bog azure roams). In western Washington we see foodplant specialization, for example on Cornus sericea and various Spiraea. In eastern Washington on Ceanothus velutinus. Outside of these specializations there occur populations using other plants and we are in the middle of documenting this. I compare it to another flower-fruit specialist, gray hairstreaks (Strymon melinus). These are capable and usually do use a number of foodplants in a single locality which contrasts with C.echo. This may not be significant, but maybe it is. J.P.Pelham [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Re: Bog azures From: r.howie AT shaw.ca Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 23:31:06 +0000 Hi Cris: with apologies to the butterfly group, but I am in Quesnel without your new email and have wanted to ask you a bird question. We found White-throated Sparrows singing quite commonly in West Quesnel. Is this species regular here? Heavy rains and wind means that no leps have been visible here lately. Brrrr. Thanks. Rick Howie Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -----Original Message----- From: Cris Guppy Sender: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:32:44 To: Reply-to: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures I have long suspected that willow catkins might be used by Celastrina in BC and the Yukon, both for normal C. lucia and the Bog Azure, so it is interesting to here of one documented use. In the Yukon normal C. lucia seems to be in non-Ledum areas, using red-osier dogwood near Rancheria, and bearberry (Arctostaphylos) elsewhere. This year near the north end of the Atlin Road I found two bog sites with the Bog Azure using Ledum, and immediately adjacent normal C. lucia populations using bearberry.There was some mixing of phenotypes, but not a lot. I have found this in central BC as well. The options seem to be that either they are genetically the same, and feeding on Ledum induces the Bog Azure phenotype, or they are genetically distinct species. Need to do some rearing under standardized conditions ... :) Cris Guppy ----- Original Message ----- From: zapjammer To: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:28 PM Subject: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures Cris, Of note in regard to your post on bog azures and something to look for as you wander the wilds up there is my recovery of a C.lucia larva from a willow catkin in Dawson City proper. I did not ID the species of willow. It would be interesting to document foodplant usage throughout the Yukon (or anyplace else the Bog azure roams). In western Washington we see foodplant specialization, for example on Cornus sericea and various Spiraea. In eastern Washington on Ceanothus velutinus. Outside of these specializations there occur populations using other plants and we are in the middle of documenting this. I compare it to another flower-fruit specialist, gray hairstreaks (Strymon melinus). These are capable and usually do use a number of foodplants in a single locality which contrasts with C.echo. This may not be significant, but maybe it is. J.P.Pelham [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: another bog azure observation From: "Norbert Kondla" <colias AT shaw.ca> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:16:18 -0600 Further to this topic; on 27 June 1990 I found several bog azures hilltopping on a tundra ridge in the alpine zone of Keno Hill, Yukon. I thought that was really weird since such habitat is very different from 'normal' Celastrina habitat --- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Re: Bog azures From: "Cris Guppy" <cguppy AT quesnelbc.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 08:32:44 -0700 I have long suspected that willow catkins might be used by Celastrina in BC and the Yukon, both for normal C. lucia and the Bog Azure, so it is interesting to here of one documented use. In the Yukon normal C. lucia seems to be in non-Ledum areas, using red-osier dogwood near Rancheria, and bearberry (Arctostaphylos) elsewhere. This year near the north end of the Atlin Road I found two bog sites with the Bog Azure using Ledum, and immediately adjacent normal C. lucia populations using bearberry.There was some mixing of phenotypes, but not a lot. I have found this in central BC as well. The options seem to be that either they are genetically the same, and feeding on Ledum induces the Bog Azure phenotype, or they are genetically distinct species. Need to do some rearing under standardized conditions ... :) Cris Guppy ----- Original Message ----- From: zapjammer To: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:28 PM Subject: [WCanButterflies] Bog azures Cris, Of note in regard to your post on bog azures and something to look for as you wander the wilds up there is my recovery of a C.lucia larva from a willow catkin in Dawson City proper. I did not ID the species of willow. It would be interesting to document foodplant usage throughout the Yukon (or anyplace else the Bog azure roams). In western Washington we see foodplant specialization, for example on Cornus sericea and various Spiraea. In eastern Washington on Ceanothus velutinus. Outside of these specializations there occur populations using other plants and we are in the middle of documenting this. I compare it to another flower-fruit specialist, gray hairstreaks (Strymon melinus). These are capable and usually do use a number of foodplants in a single locality which contrasts with C.echo. This may not be significant, but maybe it is. J.P.Pelham [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Bog azures From: "zapjammer" <zapjammer AT frontier.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 01:28:33 -0000 Cris, Of note in regard to your post on bog azures and something to look for as you wander the wilds up there is my recovery of a C.lucia larva from a willow catkin in Dawson City proper. I did not ID the species of willow. It would be interesting to document foodplant usage throughout the Yukon (or anyplace else the Bog azure roams). In western Washington we see foodplant specialization, for example on Cornus sericea and various Spiraea. In eastern Washington on Ceanothus velutinus. Outside of these specializations there occur populations using other plants and we are in the middle of documenting this. I compare it to another flower-fruit specialist, gray hairstreaks (Strymon melinus). These are capable and usually do use a number of foodplants in a single locality which contrasts with C.echo. This may not be significant, but maybe it is. J.P.Pelham ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Re: Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure From: Barb Beck <barb AT birdnut.obtuse.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:45:20 -0600 We find the two critters near each other in the Swan Hills at times but the Bog Azure is associated with the lab tea and watched one lay eggs on that plant.. There do not seem to be intermediate forms. There are two distinct forms flying together without intermediate forms that I have seen but Norbert has the critters and a sharper eye looking at them. As I remember Jim and I gathered him a wad from the edge of a cutblock where the two forms intermixed. Hardly seems like a suicide project to me - but I am not a biologist of any flavor. Barb Beck Edmonton On 06/07/11 9:06 AM, Cris Guppy wrote: > > In the "true" west of Canada (i.e., west of Alberta), I routinely find > the Bog Azure in low elevation bogs in central British Columbia and > southern Yukon, with eggs being laid on the unopened flower buds of > Labradror Tea (Ledum). I have also found them in the subalpine along > the Top of the World Highway west of Dawson, Yukon, where Labrador Tea > forms a dense scrub tundra. Also in the low alpine near Whitehorse, > Yukon, again with Labrador Tea. I have also found them in open pine > forest with Labrador Tea on the forest floor. So they occur in a wide > range of habitats over a wide range of elevations, with the common > habitat feature being Labrador Tea as the larval foodplant. > > Cris Guppy > Whitehorse, Yukon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: drdn AT mail.utexas.edu > To: Norbert Kondla > Cc: TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com > ; > WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:30 PM > Subject: [WCanButterflies] Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure > > Yes. It looks like a suicide project for some graduate student. > Maybe someone with nothing to lose should do it. > ..........Chris Durden > PS - I have seen two instances of oviposition on *Nemopanthus* in > Quebec and Ontario. > > Quoting Norbert Kondla >: > > > Chris, your question re when somebody will describe the Bog Azure is > a good > > one. The presence of this phenotype/entity from Yukon to New > Brunswick is no > > secret to us northerners. It has been illustrated in color in the > literature > > (Handfield 1999). It has traditionally been considered to be some > kind of > > 'variant' within Celastrina lucia by us northern folks but of course > we have > > no clear evidence to support that taxonomic hypothesis; just as we > have no > > clear evidence to support the hypothesis that it is a distinct > species. That > > is how things are in the wacky world of butterfly taxonomy and many > other > > plant and animal groups. Things are often just not as clear as some > might > > like and we often don't have all the information that one/some might > like. > > However the lack of clear or unequivocal evidence does not stop many > people > > from lumping all kinds of things if they look even remotely similar > > (superficial visual similarity species concept) so this lack of ideal > > evidence should not be an impediment to those who prefer to split things > > based on visual difference plus other information. I suppose that > describing > > and naming the Bog Azure with a scientific name should be done. > After all, > > any taxonomic concept (lumped or split) represents a testable > hypothesis; > > it is not an indisputable 'fact'. If nothing else it would give the > > inevitable critics something to ignore or complain about. But more > > importantly it might provoke some folks with more time and money and > energy > > to delve into the matter further and if they share their results we > will all > > have more (but not necessarily better) information to consider in > deciding > > what hypothesis/guess/interpretation we like --- > > > > PS: I am sure that there are the usual numerous opinions as to what > > constitutes clear or unequivocal evidence --- > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Re: Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure From: "Cris Guppy" <cguppy AT quesnelbc.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:06:44 -0700 In the "true" west of Canada (i.e., west of Alberta), I routinely find the Bog Azure in low elevation bogs in central British Columbia and southern Yukon, with eggs being laid on the unopened flower buds of Labradror Tea (Ledum). I have also found them in the subalpine along the Top of the World Highway west of Dawson, Yukon, where Labrador Tea forms a dense scrub tundra. Also in the low alpine near Whitehorse, Yukon, again with Labrador Tea. I have also found them in open pine forest with Labrador Tea on the forest floor. So they occur in a wide range of habitats over a wide range of elevations, with the common habitat feature being Labrador Tea as the larval foodplant. Cris Guppy Whitehorse, Yukon ----- Original Message ----- From: drdn AT mail.utexas.edu To: Norbert Kondla Cc: TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com ; WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:30 PM Subject: [WCanButterflies] Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure Yes. It looks like a suicide project for some graduate student. Maybe someone with nothing to lose should do it. ..........Chris Durden PS - I have seen two instances of oviposition on *Nemopanthus* in Quebec and Ontario. Quoting Norbert Kondla : > Chris, your question re when somebody will describe the Bog Azure is a good > one. The presence of this phenotype/entity from Yukon to New Brunswick is no > secret to us northerners. It has been illustrated in color in the literature > (Handfield 1999). It has traditionally been considered to be some kind of > 'variant' within Celastrina lucia by us northern folks but of course we have > no clear evidence to support that taxonomic hypothesis; just as we have no > clear evidence to support the hypothesis that it is a distinct species. That > is how things are in the wacky world of butterfly taxonomy and many other > plant and animal groups. Things are often just not as clear as some might > like and we often don't have all the information that one/some might like. > However the lack of clear or unequivocal evidence does not stop many people > from lumping all kinds of things if they look even remotely similar > (superficial visual similarity species concept) so this lack of ideal > evidence should not be an impediment to those who prefer to split things > based on visual difference plus other information. I suppose that describing > and naming the Bog Azure with a scientific name should be done. After all, > any taxonomic concept (lumped or split) represents a testable hypothesis; > it is not an indisputable 'fact'. If nothing else it would give the > inevitable critics something to ignore or complain about. But more > importantly it might provoke some folks with more time and money and energy > to delve into the matter further and if they share their results we will all > have more (but not necessarily better) information to consider in deciding > what hypothesis/guess/interpretation we like --- > > PS: I am sure that there are the usual numerous opinions as to what > constitutes clear or unequivocal evidence --- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Re: Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure From: "Cris Guppy" <cguppy AT quesnelbc.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:06:44 -0700 In the "true" west of Canada (i.e., west of Alberta), I routinely find the Bog Azure in low elevation bogs in central British Columbia and southern Yukon, with eggs being laid on the unopened flower buds of Labradror Tea (Ledum). I have also found them in the subalpine along the Top of the World Highway west of Dawson, Yukon, where Labrador Tea forms a dense scrub tundra. Also in the low alpine near Whitehorse, Yukon, again with Labrador Tea. I have also found them in open pine forest with Labrador Tea on the forest floor. So they occur in a wide range of habitats over a wide range of elevations, with the common habitat feature being Labrador Tea as the larval foodplant. Cris Guppy Whitehorse, Yukon ----- Original Message ----- From: drdn AT mail.utexas.edu To: Norbert Kondla Cc: TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com ; WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:30 PM Subject: [WCanButterflies] Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure Yes. It looks like a suicide project for some graduate student. Maybe someone with nothing to lose should do it. ..........Chris Durden PS - I have seen two instances of oviposition on *Nemopanthus* in Quebec and Ontario. Quoting Norbert Kondla : > Chris, your question re when somebody will describe the Bog Azure is a good > one. The presence of this phenotype/entity from Yukon to New Brunswick is no > secret to us northerners. It has been illustrated in color in the literature > (Handfield 1999). It has traditionally been considered to be some kind of > 'variant' within Celastrina lucia by us northern folks but of course we have > no clear evidence to support that taxonomic hypothesis; just as we have no > clear evidence to support the hypothesis that it is a distinct species. That > is how things are in the wacky world of butterfly taxonomy and many other > plant and animal groups. Things are often just not as clear as some might > like and we often don't have all the information that one/some might like. > However the lack of clear or unequivocal evidence does not stop many people > from lumping all kinds of things if they look even remotely similar > (superficial visual similarity species concept) so this lack of ideal > evidence should not be an impediment to those who prefer to split things > based on visual difference plus other information. I suppose that describing > and naming the Bog Azure with a scientific name should be done. After all, > any taxonomic concept (lumped or split) represents a testable hypothesis; > it is not an indisputable 'fact'. If nothing else it would give the > inevitable critics something to ignore or complain about. But more > importantly it might provoke some folks with more time and money and energy > to delve into the matter further and if they share their results we will all > have more (but not necessarily better) information to consider in deciding > what hypothesis/guess/interpretation we like --- > > PS: I am sure that there are the usual numerous opinions as to what > constitutes clear or unequivocal evidence --- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 6 Jul 2011 03:09:49 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Four Erebia fasciata.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Four%20Erebia%20fasciata.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Re: [leps-talk] Bog Azure From: drdn AT mail.utexas.edu Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 23:30:37 -0500 Yes. It looks like a suicide project for some graduate student. Maybe someone with nothing to lose should do it. ..........Chris Durden PS - I have seen two instances of oviposition on *Nemopanthus* in Quebec and Ontario. Quoting Norbert Kondla : > Chris, your question re when somebody will describe the Bog Azure is a good > one. The presence of this phenotype/entity from Yukon to New Brunswick is no > secret to us northerners. It has been illustrated in color in the literature > (Handfield 1999). It has traditionally been considered to be some kind of > 'variant' within Celastrina lucia by us northern folks but of course we have > no clear evidence to support that taxonomic hypothesis; just as we have no > clear evidence to support the hypothesis that it is a distinct species. That > is how things are in the wacky world of butterfly taxonomy and many other > plant and animal groups. Things are often just not as clear as some might > like and we often don't have all the information that one/some might like. > However the lack of clear or unequivocal evidence does not stop many people > from lumping all kinds of things if they look even remotely similar > (superficial visual similarity species concept) so this lack of ideal > evidence should not be an impediment to those who prefer to split things > based on visual difference plus other information. I suppose that describing > and naming the Bog Azure with a scientific name should be done. After all, > any taxonomic concept (lumped or split) represents a testable hypothesis; > it is not an indisputable 'fact'. If nothing else it would give the > inevitable critics something to ignore or complain about. But more > importantly it might provoke some folks with more time and money and energy > to delve into the matter further and if they share their results we will all > have more (but not necessarily better) information to consider in deciding > what hypothesis/guess/interpretation we like --- > > PS: I am sure that there are the usual numerous opinions as to what > constitutes clear or unequivocal evidence --- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 6 Jul 2011 03:07:35 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. File : /Argynnis garretti Gunder 1932.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Argynnis%20garretti%20Gunder%201932.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 6 Jul 2011 02:07:12 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. 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File : /some zerene.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/some%20zerene.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: Bog Azure From: "Norbert Kondla" <colias AT shaw.ca> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 10:28:58 -0600 Chris, your question re when somebody will describe the Bog Azure is a good one. The presence of this phenotype/entity from Yukon to New Brunswick is no secret to us northerners. It has been illustrated in color in the literature (Handfield 1999). It has traditionally been considered to be some kind of 'variant' within Celastrina lucia by us northern folks but of course we have no clear evidence to support that taxonomic hypothesis; just as we have no clear evidence to support the hypothesis that it is a distinct species. That is how things are in the wacky world of butterfly taxonomy and many other plant and animal groups. Things are often just not as clear as some might like and we often don't have all the information that one/some might like. However the lack of clear or unequivocal evidence does not stop many people from lumping all kinds of things if they look even remotely similar (superficial visual similarity species concept) so this lack of ideal evidence should not be an impediment to those who prefer to split things based on visual difference plus other information. I suppose that describing and naming the Bog Azure with a scientific name should be done. After all, any taxonomic concept (lumped or split) represents a testable hypothesis; it is not an indisputable 'fact'. If nothing else it would give the inevitable critics something to ignore or complain about. But more importantly it might provoke some folks with more time and money and energy to delve into the matter further and if they share their results we will all have more (but not necessarily better) information to consider in deciding what hypothesis/guess/interpretation we like --- PS: I am sure that there are the usual numerous opinions as to what constitutes clear or unequivocal evidence --- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 5 Jul 2011 04:51:32 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. 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File : /Colias christina christina.pdf Uploaded by : norbertkondla Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/files/Colias%20christina%20christina.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, norbertkondla ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 5 Jul 2011 04:32:37 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. 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From: vintagebob AT shaw.ca Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 18:21:14 -0000 I was fortunate to come across at least 3 flying around Sir Winston Churchill park whilst bird-watching. ------------------------------------ <*> PHOTO ALBUMS: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WCanButterflies/lst Subject: New file uploaded to WCanButterflies From: WCanButterflies AT yahoogroups.com Date: 1 Jul 2011 16:48:47 -0000 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the WCanButterflies group. 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