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7 Mar Help with ride to graylag - Is it...? ["Greg Hanisek" ] 26 Jun CA young birders [J Tompkins ] 26 Jun CA young birders [J Tompkins ] 23 May Young Birders Welcome ["truenorth_ariane" ] 21 May Ohio Young Birder's Club ["Auriel" ] 20 May Human-buttons [] 26 Apr Re: bird survey [H T ] 07 Jan IBirdpods ["Michael" ] 8 Nov Ecological Study Trip to Ecuador, summer 2006 [Frederick Atwood ] 29 Sep Major congrats to a young birder [Scott Haber ] 04 Sep MA Storm-petrel ["Christian Nunes" ] 30 Aug Fwd: details on Ryan's service [H T ] 29 Aug site in memory of Ryan.. [H T ] 28 Aug NM prayers please [H T ] 02 Aug life on a summer's note... (very long) ["HT" ] 02 Aug sad news ["Charlie Wright" ] 26 Aug Re: milestones and opps for young birders [] 26 Aug Apology: Re: Digest Number 637 ["Matt Brady" ] 25 Aug Re: Digest Number 635 ["Matt Brady" ] 25 Aug Re: 2004 Young Birders' Conference [] 24 Aug still alive.. [H T ] 24 Aug Re: 2004 Young Birders' Conference ["Holly Reinhard" ] 22 Aug 2004 Young Birders' Conference ["Jennie Duberstein" ] 22 Aug milestones and opps for young birders ["Jennie Duberstein" ] 18 Aug Just another New Jersey pelagic (narrative) [Tom Reed ] 18 Aug List Owner Message [Nicholas Block ] 11 Aug Birding trips ["Karl Fairchild" ] 5 Aug Cryptic forest falcon [Craig ] 03 Aug (unknown) ["Alex Meilleur" ] 27 Jul Adirondacks Birding Trip [Andrew Sigerbird ] 26 Jul home, sweet... ny/nj trip [H T ] 23 Jul Fwd: Save Asian Shorebirds! [Christopher Duke ] 10 Jul little stint [Tom Reed ] 5 Jul Fw: optics question ["Charlie Wright" ] 29 Jun Ontario birding [] 28 Jun Sound recordings of pygmy owls ["larskoerner1977" ] 26 Jun Re: Red Knot extinction... not likely [] 24 Jun Need Some Help with Adirondack Birding [Andrew Sigerbird ] 19 Jun Re: Red Knot extinction... not likely [] 18 Jun Re: Red Knot extinction... not likely [Brian Clough ] 18 Jun Red Knot extinction... not likely [] 17 Jun Calling teen birders in the UK [Will Bowell ] 16 Jun RE: Red Knot Extinction...indeed [Brian Clough ] 16 Jun RE: Red Knot Extinction...indeed ["Chris Merkord" ] 14 Jun Re: Red Knot Extinction...indeed ["Holly Reinhard" ] 13 Jun Red Knot Extinction...indeed [Tom Reed ] 13 Jun Red Knot Extinction?!?! ["Michael Lohr" ] 3 Jun Serious Shorebird Decline [Andrew Sigerbird ] 29 May Trip to southern California ["Ryan Terrill" ] 27 May Correction on Ryan Shaw's pelagic experience [] 27 May The Best and the Worst of Pelagic Birding [] 26 May RFI: Washington State, Vancouver Island, Interior BC, Glacier NP etc. ["Chris Kimber" ] 22 May Re: warbler song variations [] Subject: Help with ride to graylag - Is it...? From: "Greg Hanisek" <ghanisek AT rep-am.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:17:15 -0500 Colin, There is no magic answer to whether this is a wild bird or not. The Avian Records Committee of Conn is researching the type of information that has allowed us in the past to add Pink-footed Goose and Barnale Goose to the state list. Areas being checked include: How common are wild type Graylags in aviaries? What is the likelihood of an untagged, unclipped one escaping from an aviary? What is its status in Iceland, its closest major breeding ground? What is its status in Greenland, where both Pink-footed and Barnacle have spread as breeders? What is the origin of geese with which it is consorting in Wallingford? What is the history of long-distance migrant geese at this site? The bird will most likely be long gone before this process has been completed. Everyone has to make their own decision on whether they want to see the bird or not. The answer for each person involves their own feelings and philosophy about birds, birding and listing. None of those personal things are the concern of the Avian Records Committee of Connecticut. The committee is strictly in the business of maintaining a historical record of birds that have occurred in the state. It's up to each individual to decide how they want to deal with a particular bird, even if and when the committee takes some sort of action. Of course you do have to see it before you can deal with it. Greg Hanisek Secretary ARCC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Thoreen"Subject: CA young birders From: J Tompkins Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Hey All,
There's a new yahoo group for Cali Young birders --
you can find it at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAyoungbirders
There's only six members so far, but that's not
surprising since it's been around for less than a
week.
Good Birding,
Lauren Tompkins
Kneeland, CA
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Subject: CA young birdersFrom: J Tompkins Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Hey All,
There's a new yahoo group for Cali Young birders --
you can find it at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAyoungbirders
There's only one member so far, but that's not
surprising since it's been around for less than a
week.
Good Birding,
Lauren Tompkins
Kneeland, CA
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Subject: Young Birders WelcomeFrom: "truenorth_ariane" <Y2005 AT truenorthmarketing.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 00:58:55 -0000 Hello All,
Young birders, beginning to advanced, are welcome to visit our brand
new forums at BirderBabes! where our focus is on Learning through
Birding.
Please feel free to help get the conversation started, make
suggestions on how we should structure or grow the Young Birder
section - or volunteer to start a particular discussion. (You can
upload your own avatar graphic in your profile as well!)
Here is the link to the forum: http://www.birderbabes.com/forum/
We are also building the BirderBabes! Galleries which will feature
not only photos, but illustrations, video, audio and other creative
multimedia - so if you've got ideas, we'll soon have a great place
for you to post your work. The BB Galleries are still
getting setting up, so pardon the dust, but here's the link:
http://www.birderbabes.com/gallery
Lots of fun puzzles, bird of the month, name that bird and other
interesting news and tidbits will be getting started via the
BirderBabes! blog "On the Fly", so you'll want to check that out as
well: http://www.birderbabes.com/onthefly
Well, thanks for listening and we hope to be seeing you soon!
BirderBabes!
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Subject: Ohio Young Birder's ClubFrom: "Auriel" <blubrds2 AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 23:31:30 -0000 Hey All!
Just wanted to let everyone know about a young birder's club that is just
getting started in
Ohio. We had our first meeting today, and our offical name is "Ohio Young
Birder's Club"
We're for young birders 12-19 (sorry for all those older.....) right now we are
trying to plan a
day trip to Oak Openings (Toledo Ohio Metropark) and something else....I can't
remember
rihgt now *stupid lack of sleep* if you want more info just drop me an
e-mail....
blubrds2 AT yahoo.com
On a bright note....Kirland's Warbler on the Magee Marsh Bird trail this
morning....sad note...i
didn't get to see it.....
Auriel V.
Ohio
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Subject: Human-buttonsFrom: birdsofpu2 AT umacr.net Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 19:35:14 -0400
This campaign is about Human beings, Democracy, UNHCR, Refugees, The Iraqis,
Islam, Kurds, Human rights, Respect, Money, Donations, Angelina Jolie,
Pavarotti, Giorgio Armani, Donors, Peace, History, Campaigns and about you if
you care about these words.
Hi there,
I am SAM, an Iraqi refugee living in Lebanon at the moment; I have spent the
last 10 years of my life as a refugee registered with the UNHCR in Beirut. The
last 4 years, I have spent as an activist for peace and human rights
(especially refugees and asylum seekers) on the Internet; I'm also books author
and ebooks publisher. I have launched many campaigns to improve our situation
as refugees in Lebanon and hopefully bring more understanding to our problems
worldwide. I helped make many changes and improvements at the UNHCR office in
Beirut; I used the Internet as the field for my activities (you can read more
about that in my free ebook 'MY CAMPAIGNS'). All my ebooks are free and could
be download from my sites.
This is my newest campaign, it's about the illegal and humiliating actions of
the UNHCR, who using photos of refugees as banners and human-buttons to collect
money. This is an abuse of the dignity and humanity of the refugees and must
stop immediately and a clear public apology present by The United Nations High
Commissioner for Refugees. My friends, I am talking about the pictures you can
see here: http://lebanon.freeweb-hosting.org/human-buttons.htm
Also you can read my new campaign 'Urgent, we need smile' here:
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For more info about UNHCR and life of refugees you can read my free ebooks. I
invite you as fellow humans and members of the world community to support my
campaign by reading my article on my site and see the human-buttons. The
campaign is to support and improve the UNHCR http://www.unhcr.org especially
after the last scandals in the UN and UNHCR, just for example:
http://www.mizzima.com/archives/news-in-2005/news-in-april/12-April05-22.htm
"We make demonstration and fast because the UNHCR office in Cairo did nothing
for our problem..." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4440730.stm
Together we will build better world.
You could reach me fast via this form: http://lebanon.galaxy99.net/email_me.htm
and if you like to know more about me, you can google for my name 'osam
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Subject: Re: bird surveyFrom: H T <txbirdergirl AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Hope et. al,
I'd say 16 female birders is a dramatic increase (especially considering the
total number of respondents) proportionately since the earlier days of TBC.
Back in the day, I think TBC had 140 members, maybe 20 were female. I feel old
now.
-h, 20
houstonian again soon
Heidi Trudell, Intern
Santa Ana NWR
Alamo, TX
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Subject: IBirdpodsFrom: "Michael" <MBL013 AT aol.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:55:19 -0000 Does anyone own a birdpod or has heard anything about it, good or bad?
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Subject: Ecological Study Trip to Ecuador, summer 2006From: Frederick Atwood <fredatwood AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 12:36:13 -0800 (PST) Dear Teen Birders,
What neotropical birds have you been
dreaming about seeing for years? Several crimson
Cocks-of-the-rock lekking on mossy, cloud-forest
branches? A Harpy Eagle laboriously lugging a
squirrel monkey from tree to tree? An Andean
Condor soaring effortlessly between Andean peaks?
Scarlet Macaws squawking raucously and glowing
in the morning light as they fly by your perch in
a rainforest canopy tower? A Sword-billed
Hummingbird probing the depths of an Angel
Trumpet with its outlandishly long bill? Male
Booted Racket-tails flaring their boots at each
other in aggressive disputes over a feeder while
you drink your morning coffee five feet away?
Hoatzins peering at you from among the huge arum
leaves they are nibbling on along a blackwater
lake? Blue-footed Boobies skypointing and
strutting about, displaying their Carolina-blue
feet? Darwin's finches hopping about on the backs
of cute marine iguanas grazing on ticks, flies,
or flakes of skin. Galapagos Penguins gracefully
chasing a school of fish 10 yards away from your
snorkel mask? These sights and over 350 other
species have been seen by teens on Flint Hill
School's Ecological Study trips to Ecuador in
previous years.
You are invited to attend next summer's
trip if you are presently in grades 8-12 and if
you have an interest in learning more about
nature. This trip is not just a bird trip. In
our travels to Napo Wildlife Center and Sacha
Lodge in the Amazon Basin, San Isidro and
Tandayapa in the cloud forest, Papallacta and
Cotopaxi in the high Andes, and several islands
in our one week cruise through the Galapagos
Islands, we will look at whatever nature
fascinates us. We could see giant river otters,
sloths, anteaters, agoutis, sea lions, fur seals,
dolphins, 9 species of monkeys, and if we are
lucky, maybe even a wild cat. We may see boas,
vipers, and anacondas, though snakes are very
hard to see in the tropics. Tree frogs, poison
dart frogs, 3 species of iguanas, giant
tortoises, tarantulas, geckos, and amazing
insects should also satisfy our herpteological
and entomological cravings.
There is also an optional 1 week
homestay/school exchange program before the
ecological portion of the trip in a coastal city,
where you would have opportunites to see several
species of birds we cannot see elsewhere on this
trip.
If we fill our Galapagos boat, the three
week trip (July 23 to August 14) will cost $6200.
Yes, it IS expensive. But considering the
length of the trip and the places we are staying,
it is a very reasonable price. The cost includes
airfare from Washington DC, tips, and other
pertinent expenses. We could do a less expensive
trip, but this would put us in more marginal
habitat where the wildlife would not be as
thrilling, in lodges where health, safety, and
food quality could be questionable.
I have been leading tropical ecology study
trips for teens almost every summer since 1983
and have announced these trips for the last few
years on teen bird chat (THANKS for letting me do
this). Last year three of you expressed interest
in the Costa Rica trip and one person from New
Jersey came along. Over and over again he
exclaimed how great a trip it was. I hope more
of you can come on the trip to Ecuador this year.
(Mike, if you are reading this, I'd appreciate
some feedback to the group about last year's
trip).
Here is a link to a description of the program at
the school where I teach.
http://www.flinthill.org/flinthill/com_events.php?hid=255
Please check with your folks and let me know if
you are interested.
All the best
Mr Atwood (50)
Frederick D. Atwood fredatwood AT yahoo.com
Flint Hill School, 10409 Academic Dr, Oakton, VA 22124
703-242-1675
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Subject: Major congrats to a young birderFrom: Scott Haber <birderscott AT yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:34:24 -0700 (PDT) I don't know if he's even on either of these lists
anymore, but I wanted to congratulate Colby Neuman,
who some of you may know from some old-school VENT
camps, and from RMBO fieldwork out west. Colby is the
second author on a paper which will be gracing the
COVER of SCIENCE for the next issue.
The paper resulted from his honors thesis research at
Cornell on Sexual Selection and Paternity in Barn
Swallows. It's not very often that an undergrad's
research gets published, let alone in Science, and let
alone on the Cover!
I hope this inspires other young birder/ornithologist
to aim high, and try submitting your research!
Best,
Scott, 20, Cornell
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Subject: MA Storm-petrelFrom: "Christian Nunes" <pajaroboy AT hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:02:13 -0400 Hey everyone,
this bird was seen on a recent pelagic trip out of Mass.
http://www.pbase.com/gtepke/bandrumped_stormpetrel_0508
The ID is being debated on the local listserve (available through
www.birdingonthe.net/birdmail.html).
Several local experts think it's a Band-rumped. I'd like to hear what you
all think. Take it easy, good birding,
Christian Nunes, 21
Flagstaff, AZ
pajaroboy AT hotmail.com
AIM: palmswift
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Subject: Fwd: details on Ryan's serviceFrom: H T <txbirdergirl AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:49:09 -0700 (PDT) -h
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Subject: site in memory of Ryan..From: H T <txbirdergirl AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:26:15 -0700 (PDT) more from the list.... > Subject: In Memory of Ryan Beaulieu > From: Ken and Mary Lou SchneiderSubject: NM prayers please From: H T <txbirdergirl AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Folks, please, please, please drive carefully... if anyone has contact info for Raymond, do pass it along. Let's keep Ryan & his family in our thoughts.. -h aim: lilbluefrog622 Heidi Trudell Director, Migration Impact Study Principia College Elsah, IL --- Steve GrossSubject: life on a summer's note... (very long) From: "HT" <txbirdergirl AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:26:55 -0000 I'll apologize in advance for the rambling, but that's what the
delete button is for...
My life pretty much revolves around dead birds, but we already knew
that - it's not the most cheerful passtime, but it influences people
to change the appearance of their windows and that's what counts.
Last month, I was given an opportunity to participate in (so far) the
world's longest solar car "rayce" because I'd sunk roughly a year of
my life into our car, Ra 6. The event started with a moment of
silence for the one solar car driver named Andrew.. he was from a
Canadian team and died in a head on collision with a van when the
steering failed. Michigan's team won the event, and on the corner of
their rear fairing was a note, "In memory of Jeff Chen." That would
be my roomate's former boyfriend. During the rayce, our car spun out
(try a 360 plus a 180, subtract a guardrail and oncoming traffic...
on a wet and bumpy downhill), lost it's brakes, and otherwise held up
to every extreme that it faced. We were quite fortunate. Other cars
had fires and spinouts and blowouts, but thankfully, nobody was
seriously injured.
In the week before the rayce, cuts and burns and broken bones and
infections were keeping people on their toes, but the actual rayce
went as smoothly as could have been hoped for. Where does birding fit
into this? Does it at all? Kind of. My solar time was non-birding
time, I knew it and the team knew it. So on the rayce, I jotted notes
daily about what species were around... no problems in Texas, no
problems in Oklahoma (though one meadowlark sounded kind of funny),
and really no problems through Kansas. Hawks were a pain at high
speed and rain/shaking vehicles didn't help with the fact that I was
staring backwards for ~10 hours a day... I tried to flat out ignore
sparrows, but I'm sure there were some pipits that I wrote off as
sparrows just to avoid the urge to ID... Nebraska was difficult.
Leaving Kansas left most of the team with a bitter taste of how cruel
society can be, but Nebraska was just difficult in terms of
negotiating passes... Granted, passing teams like Auburn, Stanford,
Western Michigan, Iowa, Michigan and Rolla was a dream come true...
That put us in South Dakota, our gas-guzzling caravan had splattered
half a dozen identifiable species of butterflies, oodles of moths,
dragonflies and damselflies, not to mention grasshoppers and the
occasional bird (3 total for the trip, Mourning Dove, Red-winged
Blackbird and House Sparrow). There was one finch in SD that was just
finchy enough to be House or Purple... sigh. A range map probably
would have been a good idea, but that's ok.
Minnesota's wind farms were pretty, I kind of wondered how many birds
they killed, but then I wondered how much of the hay consisted of
Bobolink nests, too. Around the time I realized that there were gulls
in the area, I started to wonder what they were... and failed to
fully grasp the gull issue until I was in CO... but moving on...
swallows were also problematic. I wanted to write them all off as
Cliff Swallows because of the prevalent buffy rumps, but a lot were
just blurs of swallow. Sniffle. Leaving Ivanhoe behind, and Nora
(pop. 4), we ventured into North Dakota, land of duck spp. Joliette,
by the way, has an awesome gas station with a bar behind it where on
certain days you can find a huge tent in front of it, with a gun
auction... right, so that's where our team camped with Mizzou's
team...
Canada. What's in a name, eh? I thought Canada would be more of the
same or something, but despite not keeping track of which province I
was in, I saw some great stuff. Pelicans were showing up and a
decidedly Merlin type falcon was chasing gulls at Red River College
in Winnipeg. Please note that I somehow wrote of all gulls on the
trip as Ring-billed, bad idea. Especially in Utah. Anyway, Black
Terns kept me gazing out at ditches and side pond/marsh/lake things..
delicious. Which remings me, what non-Killdeer small peepish things
hang out in those lakes? Anyone? We were on TC 1...
Grebes, also another issue... Coots weren't a problem to ID going 100
kph, but what's with multiple grebe sizes? Was I on crack, or did one
of the larger grebes look like a baby Red-Necked Grebe? Were the
slender ones more likely to be Western or Clark's and the little
stubby ones had to be Pied-billed, yes? Sadly, on the day of the
grebes, I also thought I saw a decidedly Chachalaca-ish bird on some
railroad tracks, had to be a pheasant I guess... but man the
Isopropenol that spilled in the back of the van was giving me a
headache. And what was with all of the blackbirds that weren't Red-
winged.. Brewer's? Not to mention what had to have been a shrike of
some sort.. that was tormenting.
On the same note, I have some incredulous jottings - Sora, Willet...
if anyone would like to share insight on either how high I was or how
I was looking for Gulf Coast species in Canada, please do let me
know... because I'd like to not have all of my entries entirely
Isopropenol influenced.
Now for Regina to Medicine Hat... Harriers? Avocets? Grebe and
Sparrow spp. What about Yellowlegs? I know the Phalaropes were
Wilson's, but the gulls were again throwing me off. Do Cooper's Hawks
like to chase pigeons in parking lots in Medicine hat? Or would the
whistly square-tailed critter be something else?
Moving on, Magpies where another fun highlight, Calgary is loaded
with them :-) That, and people who love solar cars... there were
more people at the finish line than on the entire race route
combined. Pretty awesome. After ditching the festivities though,
Banff seemed like a fun idea - horseback riding on mud trails,
anyone? Answer: Northern Hawk Owl. Wtf? Apparently. Stubby owl with
long tail perched on top of a tree, whistling during the day...
delicious. Also, those pesky swallows, now with clean white bellies
and some with white rumps. Violet-green, anyone? Life Clark's
Nutcracker included :-)
Drive home: Calgary through Montana, where Glacier National Park
tossed me a gorgeous Prairie Falcon and 4 evil little streaky
passerines that most likely would have been life birds had I actually
seen them... more gulls and ducks and grebes at 75 mph... Idaho had
marshes with things that frustrated me as well, then crossing Utah I
had the same gull dillemma that thankfully didn't follow me into
Colorado. What did follow me though was a tiny speck of indigo blue
in the mountains. Mountain Bluebird? Hell if I know, but it was the
right size in the right place and then I got distracted by a swift.
Black, perhaps? Good question. Half of my notes from the summer will
be ignored because I hate IDing things from moving vehicles.
Thankfully, Kansas, Missouri and Illinois had nothing new to throw at
me, and the campus only had one dead hummingbird for me to tend...
Such is the life of a birder who tries not to bird. Not bad though,
7th place for a North American Solar Challenge team of 1/2 rookies..
with the smallest school there and no engineering department.
Live well, bird always, die never.
-Heidi
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Subject: sad newsFrom: "Charlie Wright" <c.wright7 AT comcast.net> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 02:48:11 -0000 TeenBirdChat:
It was a very sad shock just now to have learned of Jason Starfire's
passing. He died last night only a week after he'd been leading field
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have extremely fond memories of him and his intenseness and zeal in
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Subject: Re: milestones and opps for young birdersFrom: epiceveryday AT aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 02:41:28 EDT jennie-
sorry for the short, rude message last time. we (my parents and i)
went up to alaska for a 4-day pelagic trip. i had 13 lifers, including kittlitz
murrelet, red-faced cormorant, and least auklet. We also recorded a phenomonal
pelagic species for the ABA. unfotunetely i am not currently able to say
exactly what it was, although i have a pretty good idea, and we documented it
well.
good birding. rock on.
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Subject: Apology: Re: Digest Number 637From: "Matt Brady" <zerogambit AT hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:19:02 +0900 Hi everyone. I'm sorry that I replyed to Jennie's email to the whole group. I really don't like it when people post personal emails on listserves, and I should have checked to see who the email was going to. Anyway, I hope no one minds too much. Good birding, Matt Brady UCSC, Santa Cruz, CA zerogambit AT hotmail.com AIM: Podoces _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. 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Is there any chance that you'll be letting people slightly older than 18 participate? I'll be 21 next July, but I'd still love to go. Good birding, Matt Brady, 20 UCSC, Santa Cruz, CA zerogambit AT hotmail.com AIM: Podoces >Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:45:28 -0000 > From: "Jennie Duberstein"Subject: Re: 2004 Young Birders' Conference From: scre AT aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 03:57:45 EDT I just wanted to say that I think its awesome to hold a youngbirders Conference at the Kern River. There is an amazing number of birds in that area with a lot of local California breeders. On May 4th 2002 the highest inland county big day was had with an amazing 202 species seen and almost all were found within the Kern River Drainage. The Kern River has he its fair share of summer rarities to with singing Alder Flycatcher, Eastern Wood-Pewee, and Cassin's Sparrow. It also has the largest breeding concentrations of Yellow-billed Cuckoo in the state and Southwest Willow Flycatcher. I've also never missed Lawerence's Goldfinch there in the spring among all the other great birds. Also right above the Kern River are the Sierra Nevadas with most of the Western Montane species and also nearby is the Mojave Desert with its fair share desert birds (I know a spot for LeConte's Thrasher nearby thats as near a guarante as you get with birds). Anyway I've probably rambled on long enough. Good Birding David Vander Pluym Age20 Ventura/Santa Cruz Califronia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. 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Even if you have nothing relevant to say, just put your addy on there so I can write you back! btw, anyone know if Downy Woodpeckers usually call around midnight? ...have I just been oblivious to this phenomenon or was the bird just.. unique? Heidi Trudell #507 Principia College 1 Maybeck Place Elsah, IL 62028 Guess that says it all, y’all have a great fall migration n whatnot :-) -Heidi Trudell, 18 TX/IL AIM: lilbluefrog622 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. 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I'm 20, and lots of the other birders are getting older too..... -Holly Reinhard, 20 Eugene, OR aim: fitzbeew >From: "Jennie Duberstein"Subject: 2004 Young Birders' Conference From: "Jennie Duberstein" <beview AT aba.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:37:21 -0000 TBCers... I need your input...we at ABA are in the process of planning a Young Birders' Conference for 2004 at the Kern River in California. We have tentatively chosen the following dates: 26 June-1 July. I am a little concerned that some of you might still be in school. Particularly those of you who live in the east, would you mind dropping me a quick note and letting me know when you get out of school so we can choose final dates and start planning? Thanks!! Jennie Duberstein, 29 Bisbee, Arizona BEView AT aba.org ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. 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Also, we're looking for input for our new "Opportunities for Young Birders" column. If you know of any upcoming opportunities for the fall, please email me ASAP so we can include it in the next issue of BEV. Thanks! Jennie Duberstein, 29 Bisbee, Arizona BEView AT aba.org ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! 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I set up shop under an overhang on the stern, and spent 3 hours looking at not a whole lot other than the occasional Cory's Shearwater and Wilson's Storm-Petrel. We finally arrived at the western edge of Hudson Canyon around 10:00am. The water was still green, even though we had gotten into water over 78 degrees. Regardless, the mate started chumming and we broke out the fish oil. Before long, a very large group of Common Dolphins appeared, and were on all sides of the boat, putting on a great show. We estimated about 500 of these guys. Wilson's Storm-Petrels continued to increase along the slick, with a few hundred present. A group of 6-7 Fin Whales came in as well, spouting. A few of these whales were at least 50 feet long. We kept circling back and following the slick, but Wilson's Storm-Petrels continued to be the only bird species present. But then our luck changed.Suddenly a small, patterned bird with a weaker wingbeat emerged at 3 o'clock,and before it got to 12, the words "White-faced Storm-Petrel" had been screamed by almost every birder on board. This bird came into the slick, but stayed away from the other petrels, and fed for an extended period of time, about 12 feet in front of the bow. An Audubon's Shearwater zipped by and offered a 5-second look, the only such individual of this species that we would see. The White-face eventually disappeared the same direction it had came, and before long we had to head back to dock (It was, after all, a 5 hour ride between the canyon and the dock). The ride back was a lot less sloppy than the ride out. The sea had subsided a bit, and we finally got into some sunshine about half way in. 2 Red-necked Phalaropes flew with us for a bit, and then disappeared on the water. A few minutes later a larger, dark bird was found on the water. Either a jaeger or a shearwater, the boat turned around and we got within 20 feet of the bird. Oddly enough, no one spoke a word, showing the contrast in knowledge between a bird like a White-faced Storm-Petrel and a juvenile Jaeger, which is what this bird was. After a bit of non-violent debate, a Long-tailed Jaeger was decided upon. We didn't come across much else on the way in, other than a Cory's Shearwater just a couple miles from the dock, and a juvenile Laughing Gull that tried to turn itself into another Long-tailed Jaeger at a distance. We returned tired yet happy at 7:00pm. It was a good trip overall, even though the overall number of birds was less than what is usually expected at this date and location. My unofficial tally for the trip: Cory's Shearwater: 8 Audubon's Shearwater: 1 Wilson's Storm-Petrel: 550 White-faced Storm-Petrel: 1 Northern Gannet: 2 Greater Yellowlegs: 2 Least Sandpiper: 3 Red-necked Phalarope: 2 Long-tailed Jaeger: 1 Laughing Gull: 1 Bonaparte's Gull: 1 Herring Gull: 1 Great Black-backed Gull: 2 Common Tern: 1 Moth, sp: 30 Common Green Darner: 1 Common Dolphin: ~500 Fin Whale: 16-18 Fish/Dolphin, sp: 1 ------------------------ Tom Reed, 15 Reed's Beach NJ cape_may_birder AT yahoo.com hudwit AT surfbirder.com ------------------------ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. 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Also, I am still looking for someone who would be willing to take my position as a TBC moderator. I feel that I am getting a bit old and out-of-touch for this group and would appreciate having someone younger taking my place. Please let me know if you'd be interested. Thanks! Nick Block, 22 TBC Moderator Fort Collins, CO sparrowhawk17 AT yahoo.com P.S. On a birding/nature note, Heidi Trudell and I made a quick run to the east side of Galveston Bay today. I was mostly looking for butterflies and dragonflies (and was highly successful...3 life dragonflies and 1 life butterfly), but Heidi was able to get a couple year birds as well (Magnificent Frigatebird and Clapper Rail). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. 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It's been pretty quiet lately so I hope nobody minds I break the silence.
I've been away a lot in the past month and a half. First was a four-week
trip to Costa Rica. This was good, but was NOT a birding trip. Rather, it
was Spanish and simple biology (mostly in Spanish). I was certainly the
only birder, except for the guides, and I was more serious than most.
However, that was okay. I was the only guy on the trip, too! But that
meant I ended up spending quite a bit of time by myself. 97 confirmed
species, plus 7 or more possibles. 84 new species, putting my world list at
538 species.
I will give a complete list to anyone who wants it. Any interesting
note--has anyone ever heard of a Crested Sparrow or a Highland Tanager? The
guide pointed out these birds, but they do not appear in Stiles and Skutch,
nor a very recent (March 2003) checklist of Costa Rican birds. No species
in Stiles and Skutch matches my drawings, either. Highlights of the trip
included seeing a Green Turtle nesting at Tortuguero, finding the goliath
beetle at Tortuguero, ziplining at Villa Blanca, visiting the La Paz
Waterfall Gardens, watching eruptions of the Arenal Volcano, and snorkeling
at San Miguel Biological Station in Cabo Blanco. I got back from that trip
July 23rd, so this post is obviously somewhat late.
Now for a much more recent and more relevant event for those of you who
don't think outside of N America: This weekend I went camping with my
family in the Cascades. We stayed at Gold Lake but also spent an evening at
Salt Creek Falls, where I finally pinned down my nemesis BLACK SWIFT. This
was the last of my 3 biggest nemeses to see, and I saw all 3 of them in the
last 13 months. The rest of the trip was nice as well, but not that birdy.
I also searched fruitlessly for a NORTHERN WATERTHRUSH (that would be a
lifer) yesterday at the Little Deschutes River.
Now I have to hurry and get packed before spending a week at running camp.
Good birding ,
Karl
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Subject: Cryptic forest falconFrom: Craig <theskedar2000 AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 16:33:11 -0700 (PDT) New species of neotropical forest falcon discovered. Read about it here: http://www.birdlife.org/news/news/2003/08/cryptic_forest-falcon.html craig --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. 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We have your brand: HP, Epson, Lexmark & more. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5510 http://us.click.yahoo.com/GHXcIA/n.WGAA/ySSFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Adirondacks Birding Trip From: Andrew Sigerbird <youthbirder AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Hey everyone, I just returned from a week in the Adirondack Mountains of New York State. It is an awesome area for anyone who likes nature, especially for birders. Although lightly birded, it has many nesting boreal species that can be hard to find elsewhere in the northeast, and a lot of these birds can turn up almost anywhere in the area. The first place I went was an ATV/snowmobile trail across the street from the house I was staying in. This was quite rewarding, as I found Winter Wren, YB Sapsucker, Hermit Thrush, BTG Warbler, Magnolia Warbler, RB Nuthatch, GC Kinglets, and some more common birds. Some of the non-bird wildlife on the trail was an Eyed Brown (butterfly) and several Red Squirrels. I ended up going on this trail more than any other spot because it was close and had some nice birds. The place I looked most forward to visiting, Ferd's Bog, was not that good. This was mostly due to the abundance of rain that unfortunately filled most of the week. Although I did find a few Lincoln's Sparrows and kinglets, the area was mostly quiet and still (in terms of birdlife). There were some nice orchids there though. Later in the week, I took a drive further north to Paul Smith's Interpretive Center in search of Black-backed Woodpecker, Boreal Chickadee, Gray Jay, and anything else that may be there. I found the woodpecker's nest, but did not find the bird. After searching for about 45 minutes, I gave up as thunderstorms approached, and after leaving the trail the sun came out. What luck ; ) I did hear Boreal Chickadee, but I couldn't find it. Well, that was my trip, a perfect example of rain's effects on birding. Good birding, and go up to the Adks if you have the chance, it's quite good birding when the percipitation is in your favor. Andrew Sigerson, 14, NJ www.geocities.com/youthbirder --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Toner for Your Printer or Fax at LaserTonerSuperstore.com-Save 55%! 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(Btw, between the RGV and Cape May, I ended up with 7 corvids in 8 days... #$%^&* Fish Crow couldn't show up the day before...) NY was peachy, Ithaca was a refreshing reminder that Tree Swallows do exist and Ruffed Grouse aren't just a figment of ornithological imagination. A word of caution to those who are borderline obsessive-compulsive... dragonflies and butterflies and moths and any other creatures that move can be horribly addicting if there aren't any birds around... In other news, any of you that wish to IM me, try birderh or lilbluefrog622... and... er... Izzycomp got lost, probably along with all the other sns --- remind me to remember passwords! :-X I'll shut up now, y'all have a wonderful time in each of your respective states and I'll go back to not birding nearly enough... -Heidi Trudell, 18 Dickenson/Clear Lake, TX ps - anyone know what attracts Carolina Wrens to catfood??? 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From: "David Allinson"Subject: little stint From: Tom Reed <cape_may_birder AT yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:26:05 -0700 (PDT) For those within driving range of Cape May, an adult Little Stint was found late yesterday at Stone Harbor Point. I viewed the bird for several hours this morning. This individual is still in worn alternate plumage, and is a piece of cake to pick out of the 20-30 peeps present. Also of note here has been 2 Arctic Terns (an adult and a 2nd-summer), at least 1 Sandwich Tern, and several Roseate Terns. Tom Reed (15) Reed's Beach NJ cape_may_birder AT yahoo.com hudwit AT surfbirder.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. 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Marie...I've been there in April and February but I don't really know what's around in mid-July. I'd especially like to see Black-backed Woodpecker. Apparently Connecticut Warblers have bred on the island, which would be pretty cool to see. peace Ben Winger, 18 Cleveland Heights, OH ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Sound recordings of pygmy owls From: "larskoerner1977" <La.Koerner AT gmx.de> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:15:19 -0000 Dear All! I am writing a scientific paper on the subject of owls and I am looking for sound recordings of the following species: Costa Rican Pygmy Owl (Glaucidium costaricanum) Central American Pygmy Owl (Glaucidium griseiceps). I would be really grateful if anyone could send me either or both of these. Regards, Lars ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Re: Red Knot extinction... not likely From: scre AT aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:26:44 EDT I just wanted to clarify a few of the things in my last e-mail. I do
agree that the Horseshoe Crabs and Delaware Bayshore need to be protect and I
said so in the first e-mail I just wanted to point out that the cause of their
declines is much larger, after all birds and birding despite what some might
think does not end at the New Jersey and Delaware borders. Also I cannot
stand to see bad science being thrown around and touted especially if you are
paid
to do so its just idiotic. In my last post I was trying to point out exactly
what Ben said that the subspecies maybe in (serious) trouble, but the species
as a whole is still a long ways from any serious trouble (I'm not saying we
shouldn't try to protect them before they reach this level). As for changing
staging areas I see this as possible. The Red-necked Phalarope in the 1980's
used to stage in spring in the millions on a bay off I believe Maine (this was
all in an article in Birding I think in like 96). However in the late 80's
they suddenly disappeared. It went in 3-4 years from a one day maximum of
20,000 birds to 20. At the time of the article what happened to these birds is
unknown though it was believed that they may have been staging off of Nova
Scotia
with 100,000 birds seen there a couple years (however other years had none).
Granted seabirds are a little different from on land they are not all that
different.
As long as we are discussing alarming bird numbers declining I wanted
to talk a little about Storm Petrel numbers. Since at least the 1980's there
has been an alarming decrease in the number of Ashy and Black Storm-Petrels on
Monterey Bay and Central California in general. During the 1970's and 80's
any day in early fall you could find something like 75% or more of the Ashy
Storm Petrel flock roosting on Monterey Bay In recent years only a couple times
a
fall small flocks (couple hundred birds) have been seen. Some numbers have
also been seen at Cordell Bank but now these too have dropped. While it is
possible that they could be staging elsewhere as seabird distribution is still
a
mystery, it is rather alarming at the rates they have decreased.
David Vander Pluym
Age 20
Ventura Cali
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Subject: Need Some Help with Adirondack BirdingFrom: Andrew Sigerbird <youthbirder AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Hey all, Does anyone know any birding hotspots in the Adirondack region of NY State? I am going up there in July and have a whole week to bird. Any areas around Indian Lake would be particularly helpful, since thats where I'm staying and transportation is limited. Thanks in advance, and good birding, Andrew Sigerson Northern NJ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Re: Red Knot extinction... not likely From: catharus9 AT aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 06:33:33 EDT Excuse me if this post is a little disorganized...It's 5:30 in the morning
and the only reason I am up this early is I was supposed to do a BBS route but
its raining... AT #$#$%
Anyway, David's points are interesting, and I don't know what to make of all
the different numbers flying around here, as I never do in situations like
this. Regardless, it's alarming. David may be right, the extinction of the
species as a whole may not be imminent, but still, the loss of one race, one
subspecies, one population when it is completely preventable is still bloody
murder
in my eyes. This world is a world where biological diversity is being
destroyed literally by the minute, mostly of species of plants and animals that
are
either barely known to science or completely unknown, and mostly in tropical
areas. The Red Knot, however, is different. This is a species that is closely
studied (relatively, mind you), that we do know more about than many other
species, and therefore we have an obligation, scientifically and, especially,
MORALLY, to protect. It is so, so hard to preserve life and keep all
biodiversity intact (from bacteria to tiny lichen to panda bears) that letting
one of
our most special birds, an icon for the spectacle of migration, slip away is a
huge slap in the face for all those concerned with conservation, preservation
and life. Letting one race or geographically distinct population go extinct
just makes it that much easier for the rest of the species to slowly slip into
oblivion.
As for shorebirds being able to find new migration stopovers, easier said
than done. These birds are only so flexible, and with beaches being built up
from Nova Scotia to Florida, it's just too unreliable. If we have it, we
should protect it, in a way that is beneficial to both the birds and the
economy
of the area. If locals are able to see that a profit can be made off of their
native natural wonders, our effort is made so much easier. This is the drive
that is occurring in developing countries, and there is no reason why we can't
set the example here in the U.S. (well...I can think of one pointy-eared,
Texas bred reason).
Anyway, my point is that even if extinction is not totally imminent, we need
to nip it in the bud before it gets too bad. There are too many species out
there that are literally on the brink of extinction for us to have to waste
time and money by initiating some huge program to save the Red Knot, when it
can
be easily prevented by habitat protection.
Peace
Ben
Ben Winger, 18
Cleveland Hts., OH
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Subject: Re: Red Knot extinction... not likelyFrom: Brian Clough <hippyjohnny4 AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Hi all- even foregoing to the possibility of a Red Knot extinction, the ecological importance of limulus polyphemus for the Delaware Bay is immense. Red Knot is just one of more than several species of birds dependent on the eggs, and this says nothing for the fisheries which also use the larvae as a food source. I found the previously presented data interesting, but I find way too great of a correlation between declines in crab populations and declines in shorebird numbers to simply say 'oh well, the birds are finding another food source.' What other food source? The Delaware Bay hosts the single largest concentration of horseshoe crabs in North America during the spring. Now, while it may be true that the threat Red Knots face is being drummed up a bit and isn't quite so imminent, that should not undercut the importance of immediately protecting our horseshoe crab populations whatsoever. Yes, the birds have been around longer than us, but as we've already proved humans have a nasty habit of screwing things up. We cannot depend on an ecosystem of which we've removed the ability to flex as it would in such cases (ie- a mass natural horseshoe extinction) to sway in support of hundreds of thousands of shorebirds. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Red Knot extinction... not likely From: scre AT aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:13:25 EDT Haven't posted in a long time, but I found some of these posts on Knot extinction very interesting. I want to clarify some things that I find funny with the article and peoples posts. First though I want to say this is a serious issue and the crabs should be protected to an extent and this is just another example why NJ...(naw I won't get into that here). People should be active in trying to stop what is going on. With that said I find the information given to be very wrong. To clear peoples fears Red Knots WILL NOT go extinct anytime soon despite what Tom Reed may think. They are declining though for unknown reasons (and these reasons whatever they may be go far beyond just horseshoe crabs). Here some numbers the worldwide population of Red Knots is 1,290,000 yes thats right over a million birds. With them breeding throughout the high arctic of North America and Siberia. These are split into 4-5 subspecies with 2 in Asia and 2-3 in North America (one of which winters in Europe). 400,000 of these birds breed in North America, with 256,000 nesting in Canada. In comparison the worldwide population of Ruddy Turnstones is about 449,000. Of these birds 20,000 birds use the Central Flyway, 156,000 use the Pacific flyway and 145,000 use the Atlantic Flyway. Though these are estimates they do indicate that the species is still healthy even with such large local declines, which could just be birds using other areas. The grounds to declare that the species will go extinct is shaky at best. Though there may be local declines you can declare a species to be headed for extinction based off one migration stopover point. Birds have been around a lot longer than us and can find a way to survive. Just cause they aren't using a point as much as they use to doesn't necessarily mean they are headed the way of the dodo. If you have several hummingbird feeders and regularly get 200 hummers on migration and then the next year take down your feeders and only get 50 hummers in your yard you wouldn't presume that those other 150 hummers died would you. No, you would think they had found another food source. We need more data based off many migration spots, breeding grounds, and wintering grounds. Also I don't think you can liken the Red Knot to the Dodo as you frequently encounter Red Knots in very small numbers and the massive flocks that form are usually only in migration and with many other species present taken advantage of a rich food source. I do feel we should error on the side of caution and figure out why the population is declining as the entire North American population isn't declining because a few thousand less Red Knots used the Delaware Bayshore. Things are not yet as grim as some people trumpet them to be. Oh and I got the numbers off of www.cws-scf.ec.gc.ca David Vander Pluym Ventura Cali Age 20 (geez this group is starting to make me feel old) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Calling teen birders in the UK From: Will Bowell <wbowell AT yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Hi all,
For many years now there hasn't been a decent way for teen birders in the UK
to get in touch and discuss there favourite hobby, in the US there is
TeenBirdChat yahoogroup, but no such group had been made on this side of the
pond. So late last year I set up a teenbirders_uk yahoogroup, an excellent safe
e-mailing group set up for teenbirders of the UK to talk about anything to do
with birding. It is heavily watched over by me and Simon Mitchell, to unsure
that the group is as safe as possible.
I understand that the majority of the birders reading this will be... well
older than 20, but if there are any teen birders out there who are interested,
or you know about any teen birders who might be interested then visit
http://www.geocities.com/birder_dsj/teenbirders_uk for more information and/or
get in touch.
Thank you for your time.
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Subject: RE: Red Knot Extinction...indeedFrom: Brian Clough <hippyjohnny4 AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Political jockeying only goes so far. Its time for some civil disobediance. Anyone up for sabotaging some bait trawlers? just a joke...sort of.. but in all seriousness, I haven't been following the activism side of this issue. What sort of direct action is being taken, if any? If theres none, perhaps a protest campaign is in order. If such a thing exists already and someone can direct me to it, I would really appreciate that. If not, who would be interested in organizing? If theres interest, its something to discuss amongst TBC at least. I'm sure Clean Ocean Action and NJ Audubon would join in on any motivated campaign, as I know both groups are actively spreading information and promoting letter writing in regards to the issue, however if theres a more active campaign in motion then I am not aware of it. Also, just expanding more on the crab's worth...the 35 million in ecotourism is dwarfed by the estimated 100+ million value of the crabs for the medical industry. They contain a substance in their blood known as LAL (if you wanna know what it stands for, you're gonna have to look it up yourself..) which is used in detecting toxins in vaccines and the like. The crabs are bled and released alive in this process, with a considerably smaller mortality rate that collection for bait. Keeping the crabs open for bait harvesting is just ridiculous. The numbers don't add up economically. The eel fishery in the region's worth barely peaks a few million, and obviously sees to much greater mortality of the species. and as for the taxonomy question, horseshoes are indeed in the same phylum and subphylum as spiders, but are their own family, Merostomata. This family is represented by only four species worldwide I believe, but correct any of this if its wrong. Its been awhile since I've gone over horseshoe taxonomy. These latest figures really are very disturbing. I just hope it isn't too late. Good birding, Brian J. Clough Sussex County, NJ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: RE: Red Knot Extinction...indeed From: "Chris Merkord" <cmerkord AT tamu.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:07:55 -0500 Glad to see people are interested in this... and good for anyone who writes to the politicians. They DO listen... I just received a thank you letter from the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commision thanking me for supporting their feral cat policy... google it to find out more about their landmark decision. But what politicians really need even more is hard scientific evidence of declines in bird numbers due to crab harvesting, AND figures from the economists saying that ecotourism does bring in the bucks. I suggest half of us become dedicated biologists (not just birders) and the other half become environmental economists. That might be too late to save the Knot (though I doubt 6-8 years is accurate for complete extinction), but it ought to do a lot more conservation good in the long run than disgruntled letters. BTW I don't know if this data already exists for the horseshoe crab problem or not, but i hope it does or good freaking luck getting a politician to listen. Also, i believe horseshoe crabs and spiders are not of the same family, as the original article indicated, but are actually both in the same SUBPHYLUM (subphylum Chelicerata, phylum Arthropoda, kingdom Animalia). That is to say, they are about as related as humans and lampreys (primitive jawless fishes). There are actually thousands of families of spiders. Speaking of which, can anyone tell me the difference between a DE politician and a lamprey? One is a bottom-dwelling, scum-sucking primitive vertebrate, and the other is a fish. Chris Merkord 23 (i know, i need to unsub, but i cant figure out how) Austin, TX I am really glad to be alerted to this. I will plan to write/call/or e-mail BOTH Deleware and NJ senators. Man I hope REKN doesn't become distinct.....:( I think if everybody here really did write, it might make a difference.....maybe.....I hope..... >I have been reluctantly holding back on this issue, >for what reason I'm not sure. However, the truth has >been exposed- The Red Knot is in the middle of an >immense decline, and at this rate, the species will go >EXTINCT (read: EXTINCT) in 5-8 years. > >Please, it's do or die. Write, e-mail, call, >whatever you need to do. Somehow, these two states >cannot get it into their thick skulls that more than >$35 million in Ecotourism from the Delaware Bay is >worth more than some eel bait...> > accelerated." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! 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Man I hope REKN doesn't become distinct.....:( I think if everybody here really did write, it might make a difference.....maybe.....I hope..... -Holly Reinhard, 19 Eugene, OR ovenbird2003 AT yahoo.com aim: FitzBeew >From: Tom ReedSubject: Red Knot Extinction...indeed From: Tom Reed <cape_may_birder AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:08:27 -0700 (PDT) All- I have been reluctantly holding back on this issue, for what reason I'm not sure. However, the truth has been exposed- The Red Knot is in the middle of an immense decline, and at this rate, the species will go EXTINCT (read: EXTINCT) in 5-8 years. Even though writing to NJ lawmakers seems like a sensable idea, believe me, most are greedy, selfish, narrow-minded assholes that see nothing but $$...another reason that 95% of the state is one gigantic parking lot. The problem here lies entirely within the Horseshoe Crab harvest. Horseshoe Crabs are used as bait for eel, and are *supposedly* in high demand. The harvesting of crabs has occurred for decades, and now its effects on the horseshoe crab population are finally being felt. Being that up to 95% of the world's Red Knot population stops on the Delaware Bay beaches, the presence of horseshoe crab eggs on the beaches ultimately determines the survival of the species. In NJ, a ban on Crab harvest has been implemented from May through early-June...however, in Delaware, there are --NO SEASONAL RESTRICTIONS-- on the harvest, and the few remaining crabs are still being taken in bushels. Orignally a moratorium on the harvest was going to be implemented in DE, but that somehow got shot down by the few hard-nosed screwhead fishermen. So in my opinion, it is more important to write to Delaware lawmakers. NJ is taking steps to save the species, DE isn't getting ANYWHERE. Hopefully no one is still saying "So what, it's only New Jersey?" because this issue is much bigger than New Jersey-- this is no time for the typical narrowmindedness that is always expressed on this listserv. Please, it's do or die. Write, e-mail, call, whatever you need to do. Somehow, these two states cannot get it into their thick skulls that more than $35 million in Ecotourism from the Delaware Bay is worth more than some eel bait...and as for the argument that "It's our only living, and the only reason we don't live on the streets", I can only say Bullshit!- one month of profits is sure as hell not going to last you for a year anyway, especially when you're trying to make a living in southern New Jersey, or in coastal Delaware. My apologies for this long-winded post. Good birding, Tom Reed, 15 Reed's Beach NJ cape_may_birder AT yahoo.com hudwit AT surfbirder.com --- Michael LohrSubject: Red Knot Extinction?!?! From: "Michael Lohr" <mtl148 AT psu.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 22:05:39 -0400 MessageThis article was circulated on the State College Bird Club listserv.
After reading this i'm pretty sure i'm going to have to make a special trip out
to Jersey *shudders* next year to see the Knots 'em while i still can. For
those of you who are activists of any kind, or at least have some sort of
desire to see this bird again: Write a nasty letter to the government-type
folks in NJ. I surmise that they are totally incompetent, judging by the
current environment status of the state, but perhaps a threat to their
potential economic gains might be enough to catalyze at least a little action
on their part. My letters to NJ representatives generally include at least one
line that reads something like: "The only reason i ever visit and spend $$$
MONEY $$$ in your urbanized wasteland of a state is to watch birds there.
Please pass (insert law here) to be certain that the birds and my $$$ MONEY $$$
remain in NJ. OK, enough of my disgruntled ranting for today.
Save the knots,
Mike Lohr 19
Currently in Middletown PA (right next to 3 mile island, yippee)
AIM: Snakes27, Blackburnian
----- Original Message -----
From: Roana A Fuller
To: SCBIRDCL AT LISTS.PSU.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:22 AM
Subject: FW: Red Knot Extinction?
This is depressing news.
Ro
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From: Ron Freed [mailto:rrfreed AT sprintmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Mark Henry-Home; Roana A Fuller
Subject: Red Knot Extinction?
RED KNOT EXTINCTION IMMINENT: Biologist's "worst fears have been
confirmed" as the red knot population around Delaware Bay has
"plummeted to 16,255, less than half that of last year" says the
Philadelphia Inquirer 6/6. With few horseshoe crab eggs available to
sustain them, many "will likely die" on their migration to breeding
areas in Canada and scientists now say "extinction is imminent." "This
year seems to be the beginning of the great drop-off" said the head of
New Jersey's endangered and nongame species program. "We believe the
red knot is like the passenger pigeon - you see a lot of them, and then
you see none. There is a scientific model predicting extinction by
2010. After this year's decline," he said, "the timetable may be
accelerated."
Posted on Fri, Jun. 06, 2003
Sounding an alarm on crab harvests
By Kaitlin Gurney
Inquirer Staff Writer
REEDS BEACH, N.J. - For nearly a decade, scientists worldwide have been
watching this marshy corner of the Delaware Bay, predicting an ecological
nightmare.
A tiny shorebird known as the red knot descends here every spring to feast upon
iridescent green horseshoe crab eggs to fuel its long flight to mate in the
Arctic. But in a vivid example of the precariousness of the food chain, as the
numbers of helmet-shaped crabs have declined, so have the birds.
This cold, unforgiving spring, researchers' worst fears have been confirmed:
The red knot population on the bay has plummeted to 16,255, less than half that
of last year. Birds have pecked the sand for crab eggs, and finding few, will
likely die on their flight to nest up north.
Extinction is imminent, scientists say.
"This year seems to be the beginning of the great drop-off," said Larry Niles,
chief of the state's endangered and nongame species program, who hosts a group
of shorebird scientists from Australia, England, Canada and the Netherlands
every year at Reeds Beach in Cape May County.
"We believe the red knot is like the passenger pigeon - you see a lot of them,
and then you see none. There is a scientific model predicting extinction by
2010. After this year's decline," he said, the timetable may be accelerated.
If the birds disappear, so may the $34 million spent annually by bird-watchers
who flood Cape May and Cumberland Counties to observe the migration of five
different shorebirds dependent on horseshoe crab eggs, according to the New
Jersey Audubon Society. The numbers of ruddy turnstones, sanderlings, least
sandpipers and semipalmated sandpipers also have dwindled, but none as
dramatically as the red knot.
Environmentalists and researchers alike blame the decline of the tawny-breasted
birds on the overharvesting of horseshoe crabs. The crabs, which date to
prehistoric times and are actually a member of the spider family, can fetch
more than $1 apiece from eel and conch fishermen eager to use them for bait.
A clotting agent in the crabs' blood also makes them valuable to the biomedical
industry, which uses them to screen for toxins in drugs and medical equipment.
In April, both New Jersey and Delaware imposed emergency regulations cutting
the horseshoe crab harvest in half, to 150,000 on each side of the bay, and
banning fishing in May and June, the birds' migration season.
New Jersey's regulations still stand. But Delaware's were struck down in court
last month after a group of four fishermen challenged them on procedural
grounds. Delaware's Division of Fish and Wildlife is working to draft permanent
regulations, but fishermen are free to collect the crabs off the state's
beaches this year.
"Crabbers from both sides of the river are rushing to take advantage of
Delaware's predicament," said Tim Dillingham of the American Littoral Society,
a Shore conservation group based in Sandy Hook. "I've heard reports of crabs
spilling out of overloaded pickup trucks onto the highway."
On the other side of the bay, on the jetty at Reeds Beach, scientists and
volunteers in lawn chairs sit in three teams, recording information about the
red knots as shorebirds swoop down around them. Calling out data in a flurry of
accents, workers trap 300 palm-sized birds at a time and pass them on to be
banded for future identification, equipped with radio transmitters, and weighed
and measured.
This same routine has taken place since 1998. Scientists know there were more
than 50,000 birds on the bay then, compared with the 16,255 found this year. In
1998, nearly 34,000 birds attained the minimum 6-ounce weight needed to survive
the journey to the Arctic, compared with 5,376 last year.
This year, just three or four birds out of every 24 had gained sufficient
weight to make the 2,000-mile flight north.
More shorebird studies are going on in the Delaware Bay than anywhere else in
the world, Niles said.
In contrast, little is known about horseshoe crabs; researchers can only guess
at their population numbers. New Jersey studies have shown that the
concentration of green eggs on the beach has declined by 50 percent since the
1990s, but Delaware reports that the crab population has stayed stable in
recent years, just not large enough to sustain migrating birds. Compounding
problems this year has been the cold, wet weather, which has delayed the
spawning season of the crabs.
Most fishermen argue that the horseshoe crab population is healthy.
"The regulators' science is not sound - the bird people are pulling the wool
over their eyes. My watermen are reporting a thick population [of crabs] this
year," said Tim Willard, the Delaware attorney who challenged the rules in
court. "The horseshoe crabs aren't to blame for the birds not gaining weight.
They came late this year, after the egg party was over," he said, referring to
the crabs' peak spawning period last weekend. The birds' visit to this region
is expected to end this weekend.
The group of international scientists who study the birds during the winter in
South America and in the summer in the Arctic have urged officials in both
states this year to abandon harvesting quotas and declare a moratorium.
Horseshoe crabs do not reach sexual maturity for nine years, they say, and the
population needs to be given time to recover.
"Only one factor that affects the birds has changed while their population has
dropped, and that's the availability of crabs here," said Clive Minton, a
researcher from Australia. "The only way to reverse it is a moratorium for at
least five years, allowing the crabs to breed."
The New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection's endangered species
advisory committee is also likely to call for a horseshoe crab moratorium, said
Jim Applegate, a Rutgers professor and longtime panel member.
"I don't know if the shoe is fundamentally dropping or if this is an off season
for the birds, but we need to err on the side of caution," Applegate said. "We
had a moratorium on striped bass in the 1980s, and it was tremendously
successful. If we can constrain a fishery as strong as striped bass, surely we
can constrain bait for eel."
If the Delaware Bay continues to dry up as a source of food for the migrating
red knots, their days are numbered, Niles said. Areas heavy with horseshoe
crabs in Virginia are too far south to fuel the Arctic journey, and food is
scarce farther north.
This year's red knot numbers reinforce theories that the birds' path to
extinction is accelerating, said Allan Baker, a professor at the University of
Toronto.
"This place, the Delaware Bay, had always been the birds' insurance policy, the
crown jewel in the flyway on the way to the Arctic," Baker said. "But now the
population is ready to crash, and extinction will follow."
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Subject: Serious Shorebird DeclineFrom: Andrew Sigerbird <youthbirder AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Hey everyone, I just wanted to show you guys these statistics regarding shorebird numbers that I got of the NJ Audubon website. They are the shorebird counts done by plane along the Delaware Bayshore that have been recorded so far this spring. For those of you who haven't seen these statistics or similar ones yet, this will be a shock, or at least it will be very saddening. Here it is: The NJ Endangered & Nongame Species Program's weekly aerial surveys of the entire Delaware Bay shoreline continue to document a severe decline in bird numbers. On May 27, total numbers for the Delaware Bay were 16,000 RED KNOT (in 2002 on this date there were 31,700), 19,800 RUDDY TURNSTONES (in 2002 there were 64,700), 11,600 SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPER (in 2002 there were 51,300), 9,400 SANDERLING (this is the only species with higher #s in 2003 than in 2002 when there were 7,300), 10,300 DUNLIN, (in 2002 there were 31,600). Shorebird numbers are VERY DOWN and it no doubt has a lot to do with the severe drop in Horseshoe Crabs over the last 15 years due to excessive harvest and the cold, hard fact that fewer crabs means fewer eggs for hungry shorebirds. Andrew S., 14, Sparta, NJ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Trip to southern California From: "Ryan Terrill" <epiceveryday AT aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 04:26:12 -0000 Matt Brady and David Vanderpluym went down to Clark mountain and San Bernadino counties without me last weekend cause i had a stinkin track finals meet. So imagine my surprise when i arrived on Sunday morning with my parents at butterbredt springs to hear about the GARGANEY and 3 GRACE'S WARBLERS they found without me. That day, Butterbredt was decent, My dad had a TENNESSEE WARBLER which noone else got to see and there was a very interesting WILSON'S WARBLER with some sort of abberent black face pattern. I at first jumped the gun, thinking it was a hood coming in, and called it a hooded warbler. I was soon informed that it was not, and as i looked at it closer (i.e. shape, tail) i found that they had been right. It was just a really weird wilson's. On that note though, i was looking over range maps and stuff with my parents and wilsons' and canada warblers' breeding ranges overlap, and black face pattern we observed in the wilsons very strongly resembled the black in the face of a male Canada. Hybrid??? I doubt it, but it is still a verry interesting and intruiging possibility. We had a number of WILLOW FLYCATCHERS as well as one DUSKY FLYCATCHER, and also the usual stuff. We birded the rest of the day without much exitemement save a few obnoxious L.A. birders that we could not help but laugh at every word they said and an escaped EURASIAN GOLDFINCH at gallileo. We also went to Inyokern for the world's most reliable LECONTE'S THRASHER and guess what it was there. That night a weather pattern came through and everything shifted. As soon as we got to Butterbredt at 5 a.m., we were the only people there and we knew we were in for a really good day. Right off the bat, Matt had a spring adult Male BLACKBURNIAN WARBLER which noone else got to see, even though i was only a few feet behind him. This bird turned out to be only the second spring record for the species in Kern county. we were having simply more individuals and more species than the day before the entire time. We were provided with exxelent looks at birds such as MACGILLAVRAY'S WARBLERS, TOWNSEND'S WARBLERS, and other fairly common "lookers" we were especially treated with a BENDIRE'S THRASHER that was poking around the hillside for most of us to see. We then had a fabulous Male NORTHERN PARULA that most everyone got very good looks at. Not too long afterwards we had a female NORTHERN PARULA, that was only seen by a few people, myself and Matt included. While lookinf for the female parula, My dad had a spring male BLUE-WINGED WARBLER. We chased that a round for quite a while, and Dave got excellent looks at the bird before it dissapeared. We stayed until about 10:30 at butterbredt, hoping to refind the blue-winged or some other vagrant, but to no avail, although Matt almost lost Dave's keys in the middle of the desert. From there we went to the DWP at Jawbone canyon, which was not too interesing. We had a few LAWRENCE'S GOLDFINCHES as well as some nesting WESTERN KINGBIRDS and fledgling RED-TAILED HAWKS. From there we headed out to ridgecrest to chase a Kentucky warbler that had been seen at a college there. by then we had a caravan composed of Johnny and Debbie Wilson, Kelly Heindel, Jeff Seay, My parents: Scott and Linda Terrill, Matt Brady, David VanderPluym, and myself. As soon as we got to the college everyone gathered around some open water where the Kentucky would most likely be, while my dad and i fanned out. As luck would have it, one opf the first trees i looked in contained only one bird: a gorgeous adult spring male MOURNING WARBLER!!! I called the bird put and Johnny Wilson and Dave came running over, and dave got great looks at the bird, as well as Kelly heindel, who saw the bird in flight later. We lost the bird in some big cottonwoods, and after a while of trying to track it down, we began to disperse to look for other birds or see if it somehow had eveded us. A few minutes later a call came through that my dad and Dave had the KENTUCKY WARBLER over in another section of the college, and everyone got amazing looks at that bird, although the mounring was not seen again until the next day when Todd Easterley had the bird on the campus. We then rolled the whole caravan over to Gallileo hill. When we got out of the car, Matt and i were walking and i heard a note that sounded like a california Towhee above my head. knowing full well the only other bird that does that note, and that there are no california towhees out there, i told matt i had heard a hooded warbler just in time for a little yellow warbler to fly out of the tree where i had heard the call from ,never to to seen again. Not too much happened at gallileo, the BLACK-AND-WHITE WARBLER that had been found previously was refound, as well as the RED-NAPED SAPSUCKER and the EURASIAN GOLDFINCH. From gallileo, i had to go to get home, but Matt and Dave birded the Mojave golf course after that and saw an OVENBIRD that been found the day before, which, without hooded, made 15 species of warblers seen by our group for the day. As of this post, a little bit of conterversy surrounds the Gargeney, but either way things play out, we still had fun and it was a great trip. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Correction on Ryan Shaw's pelagic experience From: GoBirding AT aol.com Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 17:46:53 EDT This was his first east coast pelagic, not his first pelagic. As many of you probably know, he goes out on Westport trips all the time. Just don't want everyone who knows him to yell at me. Ben Griffith 17 Merrimack, NH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: The Best and the Worst of Pelagic Birding From: GoBirding AT aol.com Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 17:11:39 EDT I just returned from Memorial Day weekend on the Outer Banks of North Carolina. Not leaving the Banks much, I did fairly well birding, getting 11 lifers. During the trip I took 2 pelagics out to the Gulf Stream, on which I met Ryan Shaw and Tracey Norris. The first pelagic totally spoiled Ryan. We got a Pterodroma slam (Herald, Bermuda, Fea's and Black-capped) and a Red-billed Tropicbird. Not to bad for his first pelagic. Well, in all fairness (except to everyone on the boat who didn't get the petrel slam), the second pelagic was quite possibly the worst pelagic ever to go out of North Carolina. Before we got to the Gulf Stream, the engine stopped, and I figured it was just because a smaller boat was going by. But then someone ran in and said there was smoke. Two of the mates went down and couldn't find anything but a lot of smoke, so they said they were going to head back to shore. As we turned around there was a loud "bang", the boat shook, the door next to me was blown open, and smoke filled the cabin. Luckily the firefighting systems on boats work well, and no serious damage was done to the rest of the boat (i.e the hull). We were towed into shore by the coast guard a few hours later. Still picked up 4 Wilson's Storm Petrels, 2 Parasitic Jaegers, and 2 Northern Gannets. The crew and all the passengers handled this scare extremely well. Ben Griffith 17 Merrimack, NH [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: RFI: Washington State, Vancouver Island, Interior BC, Glacier NP etc. From: "Chris Kimber" <kestrel201 AT hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:00:27 -0400 Hello fellow TBCers, After political turmoil caused my plans for VENT Venezuela this summer to go down the drain, I agreed to accompany my parents on a trip to the West Coast in the hopes of tacking some birding on to seeing the relatives they want to. I'll be away July 4-21. I'm signed up for the July 12 pelagic out of Westport, WA in the hopes of seeing some of the seabirds of the left coast. I've only been out west to Alberta for a couple of weeks of moderate birding when I was younger, so I'm missing a few birds. I'm looking for any spots I should hit in the following areas. Vancouver Island: I'm staying in Victoria for a couple of days, Parksville for a day and Tofino for three. I've got a birding guide to the island, but any specific sites I should hit for West Coast specialties would be appreciated. Washington: Here's where I need the most help. I've got a day or two to spend on the Olympic Pen. Any birding areas in Olympic National Park or the coast are much appreciated. Then I'm traveling down to Westport. I'm assuming Gray's Harbor is worth it all year round? Following that, I'm going to spend 3 days traveling across the Cascades and up the Okanogan Valley to Penticton, BC. I really need some help here as I can choose the route. I'm looking for interior specialties eg. White-headed Woodpecker, Sage Thrasher, Sage Sparrow etc. I have NO clue where to go at all. Please HELP! :-) BC: Once in BC, I'll be spending a couple of days in Penticton. I'll have a bit of time to go birding here, so I'd like the spots where I can mop up any loose ends from central Washington or catch any birds of a Rocky Mountains nature. After this, I'm driving across BC to Southern Alberta. Anything worth it along the way. Glacier NP/Waterton Lakes/Southern Alberta: I've been here before, but I just randomly groped around in search of birds. Does anybody have any must-see trails or spots here. I'm particularly interested in high-altitude birds eg. White-tailed Ptarmigan, Cassin's Finch, Calliope Hummingbird. I hope anyone with any knowledge of the above regions, especially Washington, will reply to me privately. I probably will be blazing through too quickly (with the folks) to stop and see anyone, but who knows? TIA! Chris Kimber, 18 Toronto, ON kestrel201 AT hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/70TolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Visit the TeenBirdChat home page at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TeenBirdChat To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TeenBirdChat-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Re: warbler song variations From: catharus9 AT aol.com Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:30:51 EDT I agree on those warbler pairs--chestnut-sided and yellow sounding alike and
magnolia sounding a lot like hooded at times. I've noticed that if I hear a
bird and say "that SOUNDS like a Chestnut-sided" or "that SOUNDS like a Hooded"
than its probably really a Yellow or a Magnolia, respectively. But if my
mind immediately says "that IS a Chestnut-sided" or "that IS a Hooded," than
usually I'm right. In the Magnolia/Hooded pairing, I think that that comes from
Magnolia replicating the pattern of the Hooded song, but being slightly weaker
and not quite so straightforward...I guess you could say that Magnolia can
sing "weeta weeta weeteo" or variations of that pattern, but Hooded more or
less
shouts it, in my observations at least. As for Yellow/Chestnut-sided, Yellow
can mimic that "pleaseta pleaseta meetcha" pattern, but is usually less
emphatic on the "meetcha," and slightly more jumbled, I think. In other words,
if I
have any degree of uncertainty on calling the song, than often it is really
the "impostor" rather than the "real" bird. The same sort of thing can go for
shorebirds. Sometimes, after a long hot day out on the flats, I start trying
to make a Semisand's wings project beyond the tail, and I can work myself up
into quite a debate about it. But when an actual Baird's Sandpiper runs into
the field of view, there is no question about it--it just jumps out at you.
It's funny what Scott said about a bird being a redstart if you don't
know what it is, because I just jotted that down in my notes a few days
ago...after it was singing a screwed up Blackburnian type song.
peace
Ben
Ben Winger, 18
Cleveland Hts., OH
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