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24 Aug Video PHOWN [Dieter Oschadleus ] 9 Feb The new SA BirdNet [Déwald Swanepoel ] 8 Feb Garden food for Brown-headed Parrots? [Gary Allport ] 7 Feb Re: Old vs New sabirdnet [Penny de Vries ] 07 Feb Old vs New sabirdnet ["Jenny Norman" ] 7 Feb FW: Atlasing: Pentad 2640_2525 Delareyville Northwest Province ["RihannG" ] 6 Feb iSabirdnet iPhone app and Yahoo! Groups [Ivor Williams ] 06 Feb Re: No mail? [Joel Avni ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? [Bharat Bhushan ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? ["Theo Wassenaar" ] 06 Feb Re: No mail? [Adrian Haagner ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? ["Lesley Frescura" ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? ["Lynette Rens" ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? ["Gill Jensen" ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? ["Peter" ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? ["Theo Wassenaar" ] 6 Feb Re: Northern KZN [Richard Mckibbin ] 6 Feb Fw: kruger [Richard Mckibbin ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? ["Lesley Frescura" ] 6 Feb P.S. ["Lynette Rens" ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? ["Lynette Rens" ] 6 Feb At least this address works! ["Lynette Rens" ] 6 Feb Re: No mail? [Allan Ridley ] 6 Feb Bee-eaters ["BARRY PORTER" ] 5 Feb Northern KZN [Gregory de Klerk ] 5 Feb Re: No mail? ["Lynette Rens" ] 5 Feb Re: I got my message from this address ["Lynette Rens" ] 5 Feb Re: I got my message from this address ["Lynette Rens" ] 5 Feb I got my message from this address ["Lynette Rens" ] 5 Feb Fw: Most sought-after African and world birds? ["Lynette Rens" ] 5 Feb Re: No mail? ["Lynette Rens" ] 5 Feb Re: No mail? ["Jon Cilliers" ] 5 Feb No mail? [bruce ] 31 Jan Trip Report BIRDING TOUR 27th November to 11th DECEMBER 2010 [Maans Booysen ] 31 Jan Re: Trip Report 12th to 21st January 2011 [Maans Booysen ] 29 Jan RFI Velddrift [Francois-Pierre Joubert ] 25 Jan Volunteers wanted for a 20-day pelagic trip! [Ross Wanless ] 25 Jan Re: The Common Myna [Craig ] 25 Jan Re: The Common Myna ["Bryan Groom" ] 25 Jan Re: The Common Myna ["Errol de Beer" ] 25 Jan Re: The Common Myna [Nigel Anderson ] 25 Jan Re: The Common Myna ["Bronwyn Howard (Editor - The Birder Online)" ] 25 Jan Re: The Common Myna [Ronald Orenstein ] 25 Jan Re: Most sought-after African and world birds? ["Ralda Heyns" ] 25 Jan Re: Most sought-after African and world birds? ["Lynette Rens" ] 25 Jan Re: The Common Myna [Dawie Rotteveel ] 25 Jan Atlassing Ulundi..... [Justin Nicolau ] 25 Jan Re: Recent rains bring joy to birding ["Theo Wassenaar" ] 25 Jan Atlassing Ulundi..... [Justin Nicolau ] 25 Jan Re: Recent rains bring joy to birding ["Dirk Human (dirkh AT absa.co.za)" ] 25 Jan Re: Recent rains bring joy to birding ["Crystelle Wilson" ] 25 Jan RFI Northern Cape road conditions [Francois Dreyer ] 25 Jan The Common Myna ["Roger Fieldwick" ] 25 Jan Re: 800 birds for the Bustards. Progress report [] 25 Jan Re: Island rat eradication ["Bronwyn Howard (Editor - The Birder Online)" ] 25 Jan Most sought-after African and world birds? [Birding Ecotours ] 25 Jan Lesser Flamingo at Albasini Dam [Samson Mulaudzi ] 24 Jan Island rat eradication [Mark Anderson ] 24 Jan Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! ["Mark Muller & Alison Flatt" ] 24 Jan Re: 800 birds for the Bustards. Progress report ["Pieter la Grange" ] 24 Jan Re: Fund raising ["Danie van den Bergh" ] 24 Jan Fund raising ["BARRY PORTER" ] 24 Jan Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! ["Bronwyn Howard (Editor - The Birder Online)" ] 24 Jan Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! [Craig ] 24 Jan Re: 800 birds in 2011. For the Bustards. ["Niall Perrins" ] 24 Jan RFI Punda/Pafuri ["Dirk Human (dirkh AT absa.co.za)" ] 24 Jan 800 birds for the Bustards. Progress report ["Niall Perrins" ] 24 Jan 800 birds in 2011. For the Bustards ["Paul Bartho" ] 24 Jan 800 birds in 2011. For the Bustards. ["Niall Perrins" ] 24 Jan Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! ["Dirk Human (dirkh AT absa.co.za)" ] 24 Jan Greater frigate Bird still in Durban ["Scott Chalmers" ] 23 Jan Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! [Déwald Swanepoel ] 23 Jan Great Spotted Cuckoo ["Stuart Groom" ] 23 Jan Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! ["Peter Sharland" ] 23 Jan Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! [Joel Avni ] 23 Jan MSC Melody cruise ["J McLuskie" ] Subject: Video PHOWN From: Dieter Oschadleus <doschadleus AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:47:49 +0200 Hi You can upload videos of weaver colonies from anywhere in the world to YouTube and link them to a PHOWN (PHotos Of Weaver Nests)record. By linking your video clip to PHOWN, you add value to this project, and will obtain expert commentary on your clip. If you already have clips of weaver colonies on YouTube, you can submit a PHOWN record if you have the date that the clip was taken and know the exact locality. Two clips are available to see how this will work - see http://weavers.adu.org.za/phown_ut.php and choose to see one of the 2 clips. To take part in this, read more here: http://weavers.adu.org.za/ph_help12.php If you don't have a video camera, bookmark http://weavers.adu.org.za/phown_ut.php and come back later to view new additions. Dieter -- Dr Dieter Oschadleus doschadleus AT gmail.com (or Dieter.Oschadleus AT uct.ac.za) Bird-ringing Coordinator, SAFRING Animal Demography Unit tel: (021) 650-2421 University of Cape Town fax: (021) 650-3434 Rondebosch 7701 RSA After-hours: 083-285-6889 SAFRING http://safring.adu.org.za Weavers http://weavers.adu.org.za ------------------------------------ This group is run in association with the Oriental Bird Club. To find out more about the Club and its conservation work, and to become a member, please visit www.orientalbirdclub.orgSubject: The new SA BirdNet From: Déwald Swanepoel <dewald.swanepoel AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:58:38 +0200 Greetings birders, It seems that there is still wide scale confusion as to how to subscribe to the new SA BirdNet. I've posted a message a while ago with a simpler method of subscribing than visiting the Yahoo Groups website and finding the "sabirdnet" group. It seems though that I didn't make it simple enough and now I find myself as the unofficial official technical support for people still struggling to subscribe. I've decided to write a more detailed e-mail with precise instructions on how to subscribe. Hopefully this will clear up any confusion that would-be subscribers might still have and free up my inbox from requests for help ;-) First of all, it is perhaps worth noting that the new SA BirdNet differs from the old one in a few aspects. It offers all the features of the previous one and more. These in itself might have been sufficient reason for the move to be made but Jenny's hand was forced anyway when the server hosting the old SA BirdNet was configured with a new firewall that precludes it from being utilised as a bulk e-mail mailing server. Most of the advanced features that the new SA BirdNet offers are only available if you have a Yahoo account. To register for a Yahoo account is free and fairly simple but this write-up does not deal with the steps required to do that. If you do not have a Yahoo account you can still subscribe to the new SA BirdNet in which case it will work in much the same way as the old one that you are used to. There are four ways in which you can subscribe to the new SA BirdNet, the first two require that you have a Yahoo account while the last two require only that you have an e-mail address. My suspicion is that anyone who has a Yahoo account or knows how to register for a Yahoo account doesn't really need to be coached through subscribing to "sabirdnet" either. If you don't feel that you fall in that category, skip straight to Method 3 below. Method 1: Visit the group page for "sabirdnet" on Yahoo Groups. The address for the group is http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/sabirdnet/ (don't ask me why Yahoo sorts it under "pets"). On the right and towards the top of the page there will be a blue rectangular button with the words "Join This Group!". Click on this button. If you are not already logged in to your Yahoo account you will be prompted to do it, after which you will be subscribed to the group. Method 2: Send an e-mail to sabirdnet-subscribe AT yahoogroups.com. Don't write anything in the subject line or in the body, just send a blank e-mail to the address. You will shortly receive an e-mail from YahooGroups with a link on which you can click (or copy and paste into your internet browser) to complete your subscription. When the website opens you will see the text "Join the group" in large blue letters in the middle of the screen. Once you click on the text you will be prompted to log in to your Yahoo account after which you will be subscribed to the group. *side note* Instead of clicking on the text "Join the group", you can also click on the link towards the bottom of the page that reads "join the mailing list instead". This will subscribe you without the need for a Yahoo account and is essentially the same as method 3 below although method 3 is easier. Method 3: Send an e-mail to sabirdnet-subscribe AT yahoogroups.com. Don't write anything in the subject line or in the body, just send a blank e-mail to the address. You will shortly receive an e-mail from YahooGroups with a link on which you can click. Do not click on this link as it will require you to log in to your Yahoo account which I'm assuming you don't have if you're opting for method 3. Simply reply to the e-mail. Don't change the subject line, don't change the message body, simply reply to the e-mail and send it. You will shortly receive an e-mail from YahooGroups confirming that you are subscribed to the "sabirdnet" mailing list. Method 4: This isn't really a viable option but I'm including it for the sake of completeness. The group's moderator (Jenny Norman) can specifically invite you to the group. The reason I'm saying it is not a viable option is because she can only send a limited number of invitations per day and the old SA BirdNet had thousands of subscribers. One last comment, you may have noticed that I made mention in methods 1 and 2 of the sabirdnet “group” while method 3 refers to the sabirdnet “mailing list”. Being a member of the group means that, apart from being included in the mailing list, you have some tools available to you through the website with which you can search older messages and edit your membership, all of which requires a Yahoo account of course. By just being subscribed to the sabirdnet mailing list, you can only send and receive e-mails, as with the old SA BirdNet. I hope this helps to get everyone subscribed again. The length of this e-mail belies the simplicity of the process but I wanted to leave no bases uncovered (which I probably have anyway). Regards, Dewald Swanepoel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110209/02740fb6/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Garden food for Brown-headed Parrots? From: Gary Allport <Gary.Allport AT birdlife.org> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 06:31:26 +0000 Dear All We have quite a few Brown-headed Parrots in the trees around are garden in Maputo and I would like to put out food that might attract them down to feed where the children can see them. Does anyone have any advice on what might work? I would eb grateful for any advice. Many thanks Gary AllportSubject: Re: Old vs New sabirdnet From: Penny de Vries <PDeVries AT mrpricegroup.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:44:06 +0200 Think the address should be http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sabirdnet/ I couldn't access it until I added the 's' to group -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of Jenny Norman Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 14:34 To: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za Subject: [SABN] Old vs New sabirdnet Hi Guys The old (this one) sabirdnet had been giving lots of problems so I made the decision to restart it on yahoo groups. Please go to http://group.yahoo.com/group/sabirdnet/ and click on the Join this Group button if you are not already subscribed (or follow the instructions given by other people already). This group will be falling away once everyone has been invited or subscribed to the new list. I cannot guarantee that this one will work (and we might be charged for it in the future). Please do not use this one any more. Jenny Please find our Email Disclaimer here: http://www.ukzn.ac.za/disclaimer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110207/9ea2eb3a/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet ************************************************************************************** The email legal notice that governs the transmission of this electronic communication is available at http://www.mrpricegroup.com/legalnotice.asp Should you not have access to the internet please telephone +27 (0)31 310 8401 to request a copy. Mr Price Group Ltd ************************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Old vs New sabirdnet From: "Jenny Norman" <norman AT ukzn.ac.za> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 14:33:47 +0200 Hi Guys The old (this one) sabirdnet had been giving lots of problems so I made the decision to restart it on yahoo groups. Please go to http://group.yahoo.com/group/sabirdnet/ and click on the Join this Group button if you are not already subscribed (or follow the instructions given by other people already). This group will be falling away once everyone has been invited or subscribed to the new list. I cannot guarantee that this one will work (and we might be charged for it in the future). Please do not use this one any more. Jenny Please find our Email Disclaimer here: http://www.ukzn.ac.za/disclaimer/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110207/9ea2eb3a/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: FW: Atlasing: Pentad 2640_2525 Delareyville Northwest Province From: "RihannG" <RihannG AT nda.agric.za> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:48:16 +0200 ________________________________ Hi all I atlased the 2640_2525 Delareyville pentad again on 21/10/2011. I mainly birded the area around the pan and adjacent woodland behind the silos, a large saline pan that basically can't be seen when driving through the town of Delareyville. I stayed over at Pigmy Lodge just west of the pan. This is the fullest I have seen this pan after many rain the past month. I managed to see 71 species in 2 hours (52 species after 1 hour) and this time I did not get any ORF's Highlight of this days late afternoon birding include large flocks of LESSER and GREATER FLAMINGO. This was the largest flocks of Flamingos I have seen on this pan. As always CHESTNUT-BANDED PLOVERS were present and I have seen them every time I visit this area. CAPE SHOVELER and CAPE TEAL were the most common ducks on the pan. Two BLACK-NECKED GREBES were also seen, the first I have seen on this pan. Other birds seen include BOKMAKIERIE, CHESTNUT-VENTED TIT-BABBLER, YELLOW CANARY, DESERT CISTICOLA, COMMON GREENSHANK, RUFF, LITTLE STINT, WOOD SANDPIPER, AFRICAN QUAILFINCH, SA CLIFF-SWALLOW, ACACIA PIED-BARBET, PIED AVOCET, SOUTH AFRICAN SHELDUCK, BLACK-WINGED STILT, SOUTHERN POCHARD, MARCH SANDPIPER, KITTLITZ'S PLOVER, KALAHARI SCRUB-ROBIN, CRIMSON-BREASTED SHRIKE, BARN OWL and BURCHELL'S COUCAL to name a few Happy birding Rihann F. Geyser Cell: 074 8022891 E-mail: RihannG AT daff.gov.za / RihannG AT NDA.AGRIC.ZA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110207/9496bdf0/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: iSabirdnet iPhone app and Yahoo! Groups From: Ivor Williams <ivor.williams AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:44:03 -0500 Greetings, I recently released iSabirdnet, an iPhone app for use with this list server (see http://isabirdnet.wordpress.com/ for details), and was waiting for approval from the list moderator before publicizing it here. This app relies on the Sabirdnet archive data available from http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/. Given that at least 27 Yahoo-based messages have already been posted, and none have appeared on the sabirdnet archives, I think it's fair to say that this data stream has dried up, and that iSabirdnet has reached a premature end-of-life. My apologies if you were one of the users who stumbled upon iSabirdnet, paid for and downloaded it. Fortunately, there were only one or two of you! Cheers, and good birding! Ivor Williams ivor.williams AT gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110206/e3590cdc/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: No mail? From: Joel Avni <jav AT telkomsa.net> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:59:15 +0200 Hi Lynette: Yes, it works. Follow Dewald's instructions exactly and you will come to a screen that asks for input; note the names, passwords and every other detail it asks you -- including the many options you tick or leave unticked -- and you are subscribed. Just remember what options you tick or don't, write them down if you have to; follow the screen options you are given, starting at the top left and working down to the bottom right. It's simple, it works, and anyone who understands basic English can do it. Messages from the new server are tagged sabirdnet in the subject line of your e-mail program, full out all lower case; messages from the old server are tagged SABN in the subject line, an upper-case abbreviation. Yes, you are missing the messages from the new server. The two systems seem to be working in parallel for the moment. Look forward to your first e-mail from sabirdnet. Regards, Joel On 2011/02/06 08:26 AM, Lynette Rens wrote: > Dear Allan, > > As far as ALL of us are aware, Jenny has migrated the new Birdnet to a Yahoo > group. But has anyone tested it? Has anyone had success in sending and > receiving mails via that route? > > I have received mails via the SABIRDNET route, some new birding mails, and > plenty telling me that it does not work. > > Please could someone tell me in words of one syllable so that my tiny brain > can understand, why we cannot all simply use the SABIRDNET address that > works? > > Yours in total frustration > > Lynette > > Lynette Rens > 3 Escombe Ave > Parktown > Johannesburg 2193 > Ph: (011) 482 2246 > Cell: 082 5611 182 > > To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. > _______________________________________ > Sabirdnet mailing list > Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za > http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3421 - Release Date: 02/03/11 > > To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: No mail? From: Bharat Bhushan <bharatbhushan AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 08:49:12 -0800 (PST) From Dr. Bharat Bhushan Dean (Academic) and Secretary, YASHADA Professor, Environmental Planning, & Director, Centre for Environment and Development, YASHADA, I think most invitations may have gone over to spam mail. the birdnet group admin would have to keep changing the 'subject line' to get more to move over. With best wishes, Bharat Bhushan Yashwantrao Chavan Academy of Development Administration (YASHADA) From: Adrian HaagnerSubject: Re: No mail? From: "Theo Wassenaar" <awr AT mweb.com.na> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:14:23 +0200 Hi Gill Before we get carried away and this becomes yet another(!) rant thread on birdnet, here's what I was told by Sue Oertli: "Jenny was only able to put out the message about the demise of SABN on the Pretoria net & the Cape Bird net. This was on 2nd & 3rd Feb, obviously hoping that the word would spread ( as SABN was out of order & could nor be used to warn subscribers!). As of today, there are 27 new messages that can be read on the yahoo groups site." So looks like the move to Yahoo Groups was "uit nood gebore". Theo -----Original Message----- From: Gill Jensen [mailto:gilljen AT mweb.co.za] Sent: 06 February 2011 05:44 PM To: Theo Wassenaar; 'Lesley Frescura'; 'Lynette Rens' Cc: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za Subject: Re: [SABN] No mail? I quite agree Theo - there has been no notification that I have received about the move - what's going on ?? Where are we supposed to pick up sabirdnet emails - do they not come into our Outlook Express automatically as before once we are registered with Yahoo Groups ? Yours in dofness Gill Jensen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theo Wassenaar"Subject: Re: No mail? From: Adrian Haagner <adrian AT agreenco.co.za> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:43:27 +0200 I also missed out on the mails that let on about the shift to yahoogroups. Registered this morning and see I've missed quite a bit of activity. Best everyone hop over, the news is carrying on! Regards Adrian Haagner Project Manager: Consulting and Operations Agreenco Environmental Projects On 2011/02/06 04:29 PM, Theo Wassenaar wrote: > O my word > > Lesley, how did you hear about the move to yahoogroups? When did Jenny tell > us all of this? All I know is the birdnet e-mails stopped coming for a while > and suddenly Lynette was frustrating about yahoogroups. How did Dewald know > about the move to yahoo? How did ANYONE know?? Was I the only one that did > not know??? Aaarghh, I am being left out again! Just like at pre-primary > school!!! > > And now, another password to remember, omeingottt > > With Lynette absolutely in sheer frustration > Theo > > -----Original Message----- > From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za > [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of Lesley Frescura > Sent: 06 February 2011 09:36 AM > To: Lynette Rens > Cc: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za > Subject: Re: [SABN] No mail? > > Dear Lynette, > > The new Birdnet on Yahoo groups is working perfectly as far as I am > concerned, and since I registered for it I have had no trouble accessing it, > and reading the posts. Follow Dewald's instructions and there you are! I > do know that Jenny said she could only put on 50 people per day, so > obviously there is a delay in getting on to it. > > It is different from previously of course in that you have to go into Yahoo > groups and give your address and password, and I now have a yahoo email > address, I'm not a fundi but if you want to retain your present address on > it, I think you can register it as the default address. > > As for the sabirdnet route, it seems that you are able to communicate with > others via it, but the actual posts which is why we subscribe to the birdnet > are not on it, and for that you need yahoogroups. > > And as for not being able to use the address, I think that Jenny explained > that with the new firewall at UKZN, she had to change SABirdnet. > > Why not try accessing Yahoogroups - just follow the instructions. If I > could do it, so can you. > > Regards > Lesley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za > [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za]On Behalf Of Lynette Rens > Sent: 06 February 2011 08:27 AM > To: Allan Ridley > Cc: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za > Subject: Re: [SABN] No mail? > > > Dear Allan, > > As far as ALL of us are aware, Jenny has migrated the new Birdnet to a Yahoo > group. But has anyone tested it? Has anyone had success in sending and > receiving mails via that route? > > I have received mails via the SABIRDNET route, some new birding mails, and > plenty telling me that it does not work. > > Please could someone tell me in words of one syllable so that my tiny brain > can understand, why we cannot all simply use the SABIRDNET address that > works? > > Yours in total frustration > > Lynette > > Lynette Rens > 3 Escombe Ave > Parktown > Johannesburg 2193 > Ph: (011) 482 2246 > Cell: 082 5611 182 > > To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit > options at the bottom of the page. > _______________________________________ > Sabirdnet mailing list > Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za > http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3425 - Release Date: 02/05/11 > > To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit > options at the bottom of the page. > _______________________________________ > Sabirdnet mailing list > Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za > http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet > > To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. > _______________________________________ > Sabirdnet mailing list > Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za > http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Pinpoint, and is believed to be clean. To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: No mail? From: "Lesley Frescura" <galefra AT mweb.co.za> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:27:12 +0200 Dear all, Sue is quite correct - it was an emergency for Jenny, and she had no way of notifying all the Birdnet subscribers. I am a subscriber to Pretoria Birds so got early warning, and also read Dewald's original email there. As Lynette says, he gave readers two options to get onto the site. I have just been there and saw that Lynette had sent two messages - testing. So it's now different, but I'm sure we'll all get used to it. Ciao Lesley To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: No mail? From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:44:34 +0200 Hullo there I, as a Johannesburg member of the Natal Bird Club, asked Lesley to ask Jenny what had happened when I sent a mail to SABirdnet and it didn't arrive in my inbox and I couldn't get hold of Jenny. That is how Lesley got involved. She is a very helpful lady. How Dewald got involved I don't know, but his instructions were very helpful and easy to follow, but didn't tell us about the pitfalls. Now for the routine: You follow Dewald's instructions which are: Simply send an e-mail to the following e-mail address: sabirdnet-subscribe AT yahoogroups.com You don't have to give a subject or message body or anything, just send a blank e-mail to this address. You will then receive an e-mail back with instructions on how to complete your subscription. It will give you a link on which you can click or you can simply reply to that e-mail. You join the group. WHEN THE POP-UP BOX POPS UP, AND YOU ARE ASKED FOR A SIGNON AND A PASSWORD: IGNORE IT. The address nobody told us about for the new SA Birdnet is sabirdnet AT yahoogroups.com Mails posted to that address will arrive automatically in your inbox. A word of warning - I have already had several spam mails inviting me to read other people's yahoo postings. I have blocked them from my server via Outlook Express Message Rules. I shall happily work with the SABIRDNET address that was working. I only registered with the yahoo group because I didn't want to miss any mails that were posted there. Vasbyt regards Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: No mail? From: "Gill Jensen" <gilljen AT mweb.co.za> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:43:57 +0200 I quite agree Theo - there has been no notification that I have received about the move - what's going on ?? Where are we supposed to pick up sabirdnet emails - do they not come into our Outlook Express automatically as before once we are registered with Yahoo Groups ? Yours in dofness Gill Jensen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theo Wassenaar"Subject: Re: No mail? From: "Peter" <rangerpiet AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:46:19 +0200 You actually do not have to join Yahoo. Send a blank message to sabirdnet-subscribe AT yahoogroups.com from the email you want to use Click on the link in the return message from Yahoo groups. Then either register and join the group or simply click on the 'subscribe to mailing list towards the bottom of the page. This last option does not require you to join Yahoo, but will enter you to the list as well as let you post to it. The address for this will be in the next email from Yahoo. Peter -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of Theo Wassenaar Sent: 06 February 2011 16:30 To: 'Lesley Frescura'; 'Lynette Rens' Cc: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za Subject: Re: [SABN] No mail? O my word Lesley, how did you hear about the move to yahoogroups? When did Jenny tell us all of this? All I know is the birdnet e-mails stopped coming for a while and suddenly Lynette was frustrating about yahoogroups. How did Dewald know about the move to yahoo? How did ANYONE know?? Was I the only one that did not know??? Aaarghh, I am being left out again! Just like at pre-primary school!!! And now, another password to remember, omeingottt With Lynette absolutely in sheer frustration Theo -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of Lesley Frescura Sent: 06 February 2011 09:36 AM To: Lynette Rens Cc: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za Subject: Re: [SABN] No mail? Dear Lynette, The new Birdnet on Yahoo groups is working perfectly as far as I am concerned, and since I registered for it I have had no trouble accessing it, and reading the posts. Follow Dewald's instructions and there you are! I do know that Jenny said she could only put on 50 people per day, so obviously there is a delay in getting on to it. It is different from previously of course in that you have to go into Yahoo groups and give your address and password, and I now have a yahoo email address, I'm not a fundi but if you want to retain your present address on it, I think you can register it as the default address. As for the sabirdnet route, it seems that you are able to communicate with others via it, but the actual posts which is why we subscribe to the birdnet are not on it, and for that you need yahoogroups. And as for not being able to use the address, I think that Jenny explained that with the new firewall at UKZN, she had to change SABirdnet. Why not try accessing Yahoogroups - just follow the instructions. If I could do it, so can you. Regards Lesley -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za]On Behalf Of Lynette Rens Sent: 06 February 2011 08:27 AM To: Allan Ridley Cc: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za Subject: Re: [SABN] No mail? Dear Allan, As far as ALL of us are aware, Jenny has migrated the new Birdnet to a Yahoo group. But has anyone tested it? Has anyone had success in sending and receiving mails via that route? I have received mails via the SABIRDNET route, some new birding mails, and plenty telling me that it does not work. Please could someone tell me in words of one syllable so that my tiny brain can understand, why we cannot all simply use the SABIRDNET address that works? Yours in total frustration Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3425 - Release Date: 02/05/11 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: No mail? From: "Theo Wassenaar" <awr AT mweb.com.na> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:29:49 +0200 O my word Lesley, how did you hear about the move to yahoogroups? When did Jenny tell us all of this? All I know is the birdnet e-mails stopped coming for a while and suddenly Lynette was frustrating about yahoogroups. How did Dewald know about the move to yahoo? How did ANYONE know?? Was I the only one that did not know??? Aaarghh, I am being left out again! Just like at pre-primary school!!! And now, another password to remember, omeingottt With Lynette absolutely in sheer frustration Theo -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of Lesley Frescura Sent: 06 February 2011 09:36 AM To: Lynette Rens Cc: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za Subject: Re: [SABN] No mail? Dear Lynette, The new Birdnet on Yahoo groups is working perfectly as far as I am concerned, and since I registered for it I have had no trouble accessing it, and reading the posts. Follow Dewald's instructions and there you are! I do know that Jenny said she could only put on 50 people per day, so obviously there is a delay in getting on to it. It is different from previously of course in that you have to go into Yahoo groups and give your address and password, and I now have a yahoo email address, I'm not a fundi but if you want to retain your present address on it, I think you can register it as the default address. As for the sabirdnet route, it seems that you are able to communicate with others via it, but the actual posts which is why we subscribe to the birdnet are not on it, and for that you need yahoogroups. And as for not being able to use the address, I think that Jenny explained that with the new firewall at UKZN, she had to change SABirdnet. Why not try accessing Yahoogroups - just follow the instructions. If I could do it, so can you. Regards Lesley -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za]On Behalf Of Lynette Rens Sent: 06 February 2011 08:27 AM To: Allan Ridley Cc: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za Subject: Re: [SABN] No mail? Dear Allan, As far as ALL of us are aware, Jenny has migrated the new Birdnet to a Yahoo group. But has anyone tested it? Has anyone had success in sending and receiving mails via that route? I have received mails via the SABIRDNET route, some new birding mails, and plenty telling me that it does not work. Please could someone tell me in words of one syllable so that my tiny brain can understand, why we cannot all simply use the SABIRDNET address that works? Yours in total frustration Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3425 - Release Date: 02/05/11 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: Northern KZN From: Richard Mckibbin <kingcrownedeagle AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 05:39:52 -0800 (PST) Hi Greg You will enjoy your trip!! Southern banded snake eagle can be quite easily found in Cape Vidal (st Lucia wetland park), between 3 - 5km from the campsite on the main road (often on telephone poles) and also at the end of 'vlei loop'. Green malkoha is found regularly in Vidal too, but best found in a private farm alongside Harold Johnson near Tugela River (I can give more details on this if you would like to visit, there is also a crowned eagle nest there), or Amatikulu nature reserve (not sure you will go that far south though), else Vidal is a good option. Broadbill is best found in Mkhuze (in main campsite on the river walk, and in fig forest walk), neergards can be found there too, as well as Ndumo (though recent news regarding the situation at Ndumo would require some investigation). Hope that helps, happy to help more if you need. Richard ________________________________ From: Gregory de KlerkSubject: Fw: kruger From: Richard Mckibbin <kingcrownedeagle AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 05:26:53 -0800 (PST) Hi all... I sent this 2 weeks ago from Kruger... hope it gets through :) Rich ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Richard MckibbinSubject: Re: No mail? From: "Lesley Frescura" <galefra AT mweb.co.za> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:36:22 +0200 Dear Lynette, The new Birdnet on Yahoo groups is working perfectly as far as I am concerned, and since I registered for it I have had no trouble accessing it, and reading the posts. Follow Dewald's instructions and there you are! I do know that Jenny said she could only put on 50 people per day, so obviously there is a delay in getting on to it. It is different from previously of course in that you have to go into Yahoo groups and give your address and password, and I now have a yahoo email address, I'm not a fundi but if you want to retain your present address on it, I think you can register it as the default address. As for the sabirdnet route, it seems that you are able to communicate with others via it, but the actual posts which is why we subscribe to the birdnet are not on it, and for that you need yahoogroups. And as for not being able to use the address, I think that Jenny explained that with the new firewall at UKZN, she had to change SABirdnet. Why not try accessing Yahoogroups - just follow the instructions. If I could do it, so can you. Regards Lesley -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za]On Behalf Of Lynette Rens Sent: 06 February 2011 08:27 AM To: Allan Ridley Cc: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za Subject: Re: [SABN] No mail? Dear Allan, As far as ALL of us are aware, Jenny has migrated the new Birdnet to a Yahoo group. But has anyone tested it? Has anyone had success in sending and receiving mails via that route? I have received mails via the SABIRDNET route, some new birding mails, and plenty telling me that it does not work. Please could someone tell me in words of one syllable so that my tiny brain can understand, why we cannot all simply use the SABIRDNET address that works? Yours in total frustration Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3425 - Release Date: 02/05/11 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: P.S. From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:05:09 +0200 The only reason I am trying to sign up with theYahoo group is that if I am not signed up, I might miss something. Otherwise it is the above address for me. regards Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: No mail? From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 08:26:35 +0200 Dear Allan, As far as ALL of us are aware, Jenny has migrated the new Birdnet to a Yahoo group. But has anyone tested it? Has anyone had success in sending and receiving mails via that route? I have received mails via the SABIRDNET route, some new birding mails, and plenty telling me that it does not work. Please could someone tell me in words of one syllable so that my tiny brain can understand, why we cannot all simply use the SABIRDNET address that works? Yours in total frustration Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: At least this address works! From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:43:22 +0200 I had another go this morning to sign in to the yahoo group, and the confirming address can't be found. 1) How do I get in there now? 2) Once I am in there, what do I enter as my own address? Do I put the whole lynetter AT xsinet.co.za or only part of it, or do I modify it for a yahoo.com? 3) What do I do about the password? Dewald said no password would be required. 4) Once I am signed on, what address do I use to send mails? 5) How will messages be delivered to my inbox? 6) Why can I not just use the above SABIRDNET address which works like a charm? Yours, in total confusion Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: No mail? From: Allan Ridley <allan.ridley AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:39:49 +0200 Hi all who may be on the old Birdnet As far as I'm aware Jenny has migrated the birdnet to a new yahoo group. I've copied below some text from Dewald Swanepoel explaining how to easily subscribe to the new birdnet. "There is a very simple alternative way to subscribe to the new SABN. Simply send an e-mail to the following e-mail address: sabirdnet-subscribe AT yahoogroups.com You don't have to give a subject or message body or anything, just send a blank e-mail to this address. You will then receive an e-mail back with instructions on how to complete your subscription. It will give you a link on which you can click or you can simply reply to that e-mail. Hope this makes it easier. Regards, Déwald Swanepoel" The Yahoo Groups birdnet is already up and running. It's easy to subscribe to, and will make Jenny's administration easier in the long-run, as well as the birdnet more reliable. Cheers Allan On 5 February 2011 21:57, Lynette RensSubject: Bee-eaters From: "BARRY PORTER" <hella AT mweb.co.za> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 04:46:03 +0200 There are not many records of the occurrence of European Bee-eaters in southern KZN. They seem to contrive to avoid this part of the land. But they do appear to fly over S. KZN occasionally. I remember a number of years ago whilst chatting to Robin Guy at Hella Hella, we heard a distinctive call, and on looking up, we could see a flock of about 30 bee-eaters cruising at high altitude. Although the morphological details were not that easy to see with the naked eye, they were definitely distinguishable as bee-eaters, and as they vocalised incessantly, we concluded that we had seen a flock of European Bee-eaters. At the beginning of November 2010, Eric Kok noticed a flock of 24 bee-eaters flying high over Umtentweni, KZN South Coast. Again they were very vocal, and the sound emanating from them matched that of the European Bee-eater. I would like to know if other birders have had similar experiences in S. KZN. Is this a common phenomenon that goes unnoticed because the birds fly very high, or is it just a rare event? Barry Porter. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Planning a trip through to Northern Natal in March, when I'm on leave.
Particularly the Muzi Pans, Mkhuze through to Kosi. I'm looking for a few
lifers
as I've recorded 351 birds to date and I'm hoping for 550 by year end. Can
anyone give me good hints on where to stay AND where to find a few specials in
the line of Green Malkoha, African Broad Bill, Southern Banded Snake Eagle,
Neergaards Sunbird and Rosy Throated Longclaw or anything else that is special
(I believe Golden Pipit was seen earlier this year in Pongola?).
I'm a field guide in Limpopo at a five star lodge within Thornybush reserve, so
get regular chances to bird around the fringes of Kruger. Will update any
specials we get over the next few months.
Regards
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Subject: Re: No mail?From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:57:50 +0200 Hullo there What I am saying is that I feel there is no need for me to battle with a yahoo group, when the above SABirdnet address works perfectly well, which is shown by the fact that you received my mail. You should receive this mail twice - once to you personally, and once through the Birdnet address I have used. Bye now regards Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: I got my message from this address From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:58:16 +0200 Well, I am having success with sending mails to SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za, and it must be working because you received it, and so have other subscribers. You should get this reply twice - once to you personally, and once to my newly found Birdnet address. regards Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: I got my message from this address From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:26:53 +0200 Ladies and Gentlemen, I sent my message to SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za and I have received it in my inbox, as well as a response from another subscriber who included my mail below it. I have tried to sign up through the yahoo group, but not being computer literate, wasn't able to complete the opening of an account. Believe me my friends, I'd rather use the above address because it does seem to get the mail through to subscribers' inboxes. Just my simple mind trying to find an easy way to do things. I hope I do get messages from those who have managed to sign on to a Yahoo group because I shan't be going into the Internet to search for them, and I'd hate to miss anything. regards Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: I got my message from this address From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:25:30 +0200 Hullo I am not what one would call computer literate. My mail to SABirdnet AT lists went missing, but when I sent one to SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2 I received it. I have had responses from other subscribers who must have received it on this address. Why would I also have to go on to a yahoo group? My little mind is boggling Bye Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Fw: Most sought-after African and world birds? From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:39:23 +0200 The below mail got tangled in the wiring, so I am trying a different address for SA Birdnet. Perhaps this will work. Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynette Rens"Subject: Re: No mail? From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:22:17 +0200 Hullo there Well, I received a message from you and it had to be the Birdnet one. Please let me know whether you receive my reply, and which address it came in on. The problem has been that UKZN installed a new firewall, and Jenny has had to change SABirdnet and I heard something about going on to Yahoo groups. I have no idea how that works, but Jenny would let us all know when things are up and running again. regards Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: No mail? From: "Jon Cilliers" <jon AT stedone.co.za> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:23:21 +0000 It has been quiet - but I would rather have it quiet until a relevant topic or question comes up than have 50 000 mails about trivial nonsense! Jon ------Original Message------ From: bruce Sender: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za To: SABIRDNET AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za To: bwells AT mweb.co.za Subject: [SABN] No mail? Sent: Feb 5, 2011 16:50 Hi, my ADSL was not working for some days, since being fixed I recieved two new SABN messages ,then none! Is there a problem with the system that I missed hearing about when off-line? Regards, Bruce Wells -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110205/5bdd7117/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: No mail? From: bruce <bwells AT mweb.co.za> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:50:39 +0200 Hi, my ADSL was not working for some days, since being fixed I recieved two new SABN messages ,then none! Is there a problem with the system that I missed hearing about when off-line? Regards, Bruce Wells -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the second vehicle Brian & Wilma Moreby and thrid vehicle Debbie van Zyl, Betsie Lategan, Thailia Barnes, Elmien Adendorf, Tana Coetzer, my son Gerhard and myself. Day 1 After crossing into Zimbabwe at Beit Bridge, we travelled to Masvingo, birding en route. We saw Boulder Chat en route to the Inn of Great Zimbabwe where we spent the night. Day 2 Early morning departure for the Vumba and Eastern Highlands of Zimbabwe. We had Miombo specials like: Miombo Double-collared Sunbird, MiomboTit, Miombo Rockthrush around Lake Kyle. To name a few seen at the Vumba were: Augur Buzzard, Variable Sunbird, Yellow-bellied Waxbill, Red-faced Crimsonwing, Yellow-streaked- and Stripe-cheeked Greenbul, Swynnerton’s- and White-starred Robin, White-tailed Crested Flycatcher, Chirinda Apalis, Robert’s Warbler, , Orange Ground Thrush, Buff-spotted Flufftail and Eastern Bronze-naped Pigeons. We spent the night at the White Horse Inn. Day 3 Early morning birding at the Vumba and Eastern Highlands area produce Red-throated Twinspot, Silwery-cheeked Hornbill, Barratt’s -, Broad-tailed Warbler, Singing Cisticola, Tree Pipit, Cabanis’s Bunting and Eastern Saw-wings. Overnight at the White Horse Inn. Day 4 We departed early for Beira. En route we saw various Lanner Falcons, Eastern Nicator, as well as Black- and Yellow-billed Kites. Overnight at Ninho Da Farol. Day 5 Birding at Rio Savanne produced: Bat Hawk, African Marsh Harrier, Saddle-billed Stork, Black-headed Apalis, Tiny Greenbul, Mangrove Kingfisher, Blue-spotted Wood Dove, hundreds of Open-billed Storks, Rufous-bellied Heron, Green Malkoa, Locust- & Red-headed Quelea, various Egrets and Herons in the flooded areas. Overnight at Ninho Da Farol in Beira. Day 6 We departed for Catapu where we spent three nights at Mpingwe Camp. The surrounding area produced: African Broadbill, Golden Weaver, Southern Banded Snake Eagle, Grey-headed Parrot, Böhm’s Spinetail. Day 6 At Coutada 12 we saw Miombo Blue-eared Starlings, Cabanis’s Bunting, Mosque Swallow, Emerald Cuckoo, Chestnut-fronted Helmet-Shrike, Blue-mantle Crested-, Livingstone’s Flycatcher, Plain-backed Sunbird Woodward’s Batis and Booted Eagle, to name a few. Day 8 We travelled to Caia where we saw the Copper Sunbird, Swamp Boubou, Brown-throated- & Yellow Weaver, as well as Lesser Jacana. Day 9 An early departure for the Gorongosa area where we saw the Pale Batis, Red-winged Warbler, European-, African Hobby, Cuckoo Hawk, Overnight at Environtrade Camp. Day 10 At Gorongosa Mountain: Short-winged & Singing Cisticola, Black-winged Bishop, Moustached Warbler, Broad-tailed Warbler, Pallid Honeyguide, Variable Sunbird, Honey Buzzard African Erasian & Green-headed Oriole. Overnight at Environtrade Camp. Day 11 Mashona Hyliota, Red-faced Crombeck, Speckle-throated- & Green-backed Woodpecker, Collared Palm Thrush & Red-necked Francolin. Overnight at Environtrade Camp. Day 12 We left and travelled to Harare. Broad-billed Roller, and several other species were seen en route. It rained quite a lot. We spent the night at the Flufftail & Crake Cottages. Day 13 Spotted Tree Creeper, Whyte’s Barbet, Eurasian-, African Marsh Harrier, Cuckoo Finch, Rosy –Throated Longclaw, Red Chested Flufftail, Black Coucal, Yellow-mantled Widowbird & Broad-tailed Warbler in the vlei area, then back to Harare. Overnight at the Flufftail & Crake Cottages Day 14 An early departure for the Lion & Elephant Inn where we overnight. Day 15 Homeward bound. OUR NEXT MOZAMBIQUE TOUR WILL BE TO SOUTHERN MOZAMBIQUE, XAI-XAI, PANDA & PONTO DA BARRA. IT IS SCHEDULED FOR 16th - 22nd FEBRUARY 2011 For more information, contact: MAANS BOOYSEN Tel: +27(0)729166103 Or visit: www.weto.co.za -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Day 1 After crossing into Northern Cape we took a detour and travelled to a overflowing Gariep dam, birding en route. We saw lots of Lesser Kestrells flying to roost at Colesberg where we overnight. Day 2 Early morning departure for Cape Receive. Blue Khorhaan en route. We had Roseate-, Swift-, Sandwich-, Common Terns & Black Oystercatchers at the roost at Cape Receive. Day 3 We departed early for Knysna. En route we had Denham’s Bustard. Black- and Yellow-billed Kites. At Ebb & Flow where we overnight, we saw Knysna Turaco, Karoo Prinia, Alpine Swift & Sombre Bulbul. Day 4 We departed early for Capetown. Near Caledon we had Agulhas Longbill Lark, Largebill Lark & Blue Cranes with young. Birding at Boulders we saw African Penguin and at Rooi-els ; Cape Rockjumper, Cape Rockthrush, Cape Sugarbird, Orange Breasted Sunbird. Day 5 We departed for Robin Island where we spent two hours with the local parks & marine biologist . We had Chukar Partridge, Peafowl, Black Oystercatchers nesting and with young, Common Starlings, Swift Tern Roost, Cape Gull Breading Colony, African Penguin, Cape-, Crowned-, Bank Cormorant, Rock Kestrell and Common Buzzard. Later We Visit Tokaai were we had Chaffinch & Cape Siskin.We overnight at Kommetjie and saw Chaffinch in Camp. Day 6-10 We travelled to Cape point where we saw the Hottentot Buttonquail, Cape Siskin, Cape Sugarbird , Orange-breasted Sunbird. Then we were off to Capetown harbour where we embark on the MSC Melody for a Birding Cruise led by Ian Sinclair. The next four days pass to quick. We had great views of birds in good numbers and information given generously by our host Ian. We shared a great time on deck with lots of fun and laughter. Day 11 Mid morning departure for Clanwiliam. Birding en route at Westcoast National Park where we have seen Southern Black Korhaan, Black Harrier, Cape Penduline Tit, Cape Bulbul, Greyback Cisticola & Cape Spurfowl. Overnight at Clanwilliam. Day 12 We departed early for Van Wyksvlei. At Clanwilliam we had Protea Seedeater. Then at Botterkloof Cinnamon-breasted Warbler, Layards Titbabler, Then near Brandvlei Black-eared -, Grey-backed Sparrowlark, Tracktrack Chat, Karoo Chat, Karoo-, Red-, Spikeheeled lark, Karoo Longbill Lark, Karoo Korhaan,Namaqua Sandgrouse& Southern Shellduck. Had heavy rain (30mm) a very wet Karoo.We overnight at Van Wyksvlei Day 13 We departed early for Pretoria; very wet dirt roads. Near Kimberley Western Redfooted Kestrell with Lesser kestrell & Amur Falcon. OUR NEXT MOZAMBIQUE TOUR WILL BE TO SOUTHERN MOZAMBIQUE, XAI-XAI, PANDA & PONTO DA BARRA. IT IS SCHEDULED FOR 7 days 16th FEBRUARY 2011 For more information, contact: MAANS BOOYSEN Tel: +27(0)729166103 Or visit: www.weto.co.za -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Ross -- Ross Wanless +27 73 675 3267 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: The Common Myna From: Craig <the AT sylum.co.za> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:49:30 +0200 I guess you could say the Common Myna has an apartheid legacy. Thus, if you want to get rid of them, tell the this to the powers that be. The risk is though, that they may be elevated to 'hero' status. On 2011/01/25 03:45 PM, Bronwyn Howard (Editor - The Birder Online) wrote: > The Common Myna is not an indigenous bird at all - in fact, it came to South > Africa from India (it used to be called the Indian Mynah) as a cage bird > when Indian immigrants were brought out here to work in the sugar cane > fields in KZN. > To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: The Common Myna From: "Bryan Groom" <bmgroom AT telkomsa.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:27:19 +0200 Hi All, During my visit to Australia Sept/Oct last year, one of my hosts filled me in on the Myna eradication programme that a number of east Australian communities are involved in. About 30 country town communities are actively involved in trapping and euthanaising of this alien pest species, with a fair measure of success, particularly in areas that have recently been invaded, and control measures instituted before it becomes a big problem. The Canberra Indian Myna Action Group has a very informative web site for those interested. http://www.indianmynaaction.org.au/ Anyone one out there in a position to take up the cudgels for something similar in this country? Regards, Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Anderson"Subject: Re: The Common Myna From: "Errol de Beer" <erroldb AT mweb.co.za> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:53:19 +0200 Yeah, nice and colourful and not too small, makes for good target practice............................ Just kidding.... Errol de Beer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Fieldwick"Subject: Re: The Common Myna From: Nigel Anderson <nigelanderson28 AT gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:50:07 +0200 An 'interesting' observation is that when I was stationed at Oribi Gorge N/R on the KZN south coast we very seldom saw Myna's at the Hutted Camp yet not 200m away at the Co-op they were very common. I strongly believe the reason for this was the predominantly indigenous vegetation at the Hutted Camp as opposed to the mainly alien vegetation at the co-op? Perhaps planting more indigenous gardens will curb the influx of Myna's? Regards Nigel On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Dawie RotteveelSubject: Re: The Common Myna From: "Bronwyn Howard (Editor - The Birder Online)" <0110252021 AT neomail.co.za> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:45:48 +0200 The Common Myna is not an indigenous bird at all - in fact, it came to South Africa from India (it used to be called the Indian Mynah) as a cage bird when Indian immigrants were brought out here to work in the sugar cane fields in KZN. Apparently some of them escaped and they first colonized KZN and then started to move to other areas and now I think they are pretty much everywhere. My father, who grew up in Durban, always maintained that Mynah Birds were better mimics and potentially better talkers than African Greys, so go figure! The problem is that the bird is very aggressive and will dive bomb domestic dogs and cats as well as other birds. It also chases away other birds - I have seen it doing so - especially when there is food around. Interestingly enough, it does not seem to hover around our current bird feeder but I think that is because the feeder is usually chock a block with Red Bishops, Southern Masked Weavers, sparrows of various kinds and Grey Go-way Birds, along with various others (safety in numbers and all that). The mynahs do seem to avoid larger birds such as Spotted Thick-knees and Wattled and Crowned Lapwings. There is a conference and meeting happening in Cape Town to discuss how to deal with alien species such as the House Crow - which is a big problem in Cape Town, I believe, also an "illegal immigrant" and very aggressive, as well as the Mallard Duck, which is interbreeding with a lot of our local ducks and compromising the genetic diversity and biodiversity of our ducks. I wonder if they are going to recommend measures for "mynah birds" as well? Someone is reporting back to me on these meetings as I cannot attend and we hope to run a feature in our e-zine soon, which should be interesting. Bronwyn Howard Editor - The Birder Suite No. 123, Private Bag X2, Dainfern, 2055, South Africa Tel: 011 025 2021 Cell: 084 246 9223 E-mail: editor AT thebirderonline.com Web site: www.thebirderonline.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger Fieldwick"Subject: Re: The Common Myna From: Ronald Orenstein <ron.orenstein AT rogers.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:41:40 -0800 (PST) Interestingly enough, in Malaysia the Javan Myna, a more recent introduction than the Common, appears to be displacing it, at least in urban areas. In Kuching, Sarawak, where I spend a fair bit of time, the Javan occupies the town centre where Commons are now rarely seen, while Commons are prevalent in the suburbs and surrounding countryside. Ronald Orenstein 1825 Shady Creek Court Mississauga, ON L5L 3W2 Canada ________________________________ From: Dawie RotteveelSubject: Re: Most sought-after African and world birds? From: "Ralda Heyns" <ralda1 AT law.co.za> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:25:17 +0200 Hi Lynette
I envy you the opportunity to do bird watching abroad! I took a quick peak in
the HBW to at least see what the Painted Stork ao birds you mentioned, look
like - absolutely wonderful! I would love to see a Puffin, but is it not
difficult to choose between the Atlantic, Horned and Tufted Puffin?
Regards
Ralda Heyns
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Hullo
For the World...
A couple of my best would be:
India: Painted Stork
Florida, U.S. Breeding male Brown Pelican
Breeding Male Summer Tanager - All-over different
shades of crimson.
I have seen a Kiwi, but not in the wild. I went to the breeding station in
Rotarua, where they breed the birds for release into the wild.
One I haven't seen yet:
The Puffin!
Of course, then there are the other birds which I don't know about yet
so I can't list them. That is not to say that I don't know any other birds,
so please don't jump to conclusions - you might break a leg.
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Subject: Re: Most sought-after African and world birds?From: "Lynette Rens" <lynetter AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:27:58 +0200 Hullo
For the World...
A couple of my best would be:
India: Painted Stork
Florida, U.S. Breeding male Brown Pelican
Breeding Male Summer Tanager - All-over different
shades of crimson.
I have seen a Kiwi, but not in the wild. I went to the breeding station in
Rotarua, where they breed the birds for release into the wild.
One I haven't seen yet:
The Puffin!
Of course, then there are the other birds which I don't know about yet
so I can't list them. That is not to say that I don't know any other birds,
so please don't jump to conclusions - you might break a leg.
Lynette Rens
3 Escombe Ave
Parktown
Johannesburg 2193
Ph: (011) 482 2246
Cell: 082 5611 182
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Subject: Re: The Common MynaFrom: Dawie Rotteveel <dawierotteveel AT gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:20:29 +0200 That the Common Myna is a very handsome bird, I am not going to argue about. However, I would exchange the words "established itself strongly" with "infested". This bird has monopolized many (probably most) gardens I know. Gardens, such as our own, used to have regular Red Bishop, Cape Robin-Chat and Green Wood-Hoopoe, just to name those that immediately come to mind. Since we have had a family (or extended family) of Myna moving in under our roof, even the Laughing Doves have become fewer. The previously mentioned species are now erratic visitors. We all know how hardy and down-right stubborn Dark-capped Bulbuls can be, but they also are not visiting as frequently as they used to. Now you might say that this is purely by chance, but I have, on more than one occasion, seen Myna chasing other birds from the bird-bath and from the bird feeder. >From the bird-bath they drink water, but I have never seen them feeding at the feeder - therefore I can only arrive at the conclusion that they are "protecting their territory" or simply being selfish. In China I also noticed that in the parks where there are many Myna (Crested) the other birds aren't easily found, whereas where the Myna aren't around, other species seem much more at ease. If I am of a false opinion, I would appreciate it if others will my views. Regards, Dawie On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Roger FieldwickSubject: Atlassing Ulundi..... From: Justin Nicolau <j.nicolau AT hotmail.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:56:03 +0200 Hi All, This is just a short message to sum up a very memorable weekend, I would have typed up a much longer trip report and may still do so, but I thought that some information should reach the bird net as soon as possible. A group of KZN atlassers and this obnoxious Student from Jhb (Myself) went to try atlas as many virgin pentads as possible in the area of Ulundi. I may be wrong, but I think we managed to cover between 25 to 30 new pentads, and with that obviously came the ORF's. It is this information that I would like to put out here, as I came across a few notable species for this part of KZN as well as KZN as a whole in some instances: * Red-Headed Weaver 2829_3130 (I think there are only 2 sabap2 records for this species in the province. The bird has a nest on a powerline and thus should remain in the area for some time) * Bronze-Winged Courser (A bird seen on the Schoonstroom farm near Ophathe NR as well as in the NE of Ulundi) * Temminck's Coursers (4 birds seen East of Ulundi) * Icterine Warbler ( seen in Ondini, just east of Ulundi) * LESSER MOORHEN 2820_3125 (I found a pair in a small patch of water on top of the road leading to Mars House within Ophathe NR, this is the 2nd record according to sabap2 for the province.) * Burnt-Necked Eremomela (Quite South East, seen at the Ulundi Airport in the row of Fever Trees by the enterance) * Great-Reed Warbler (Heard near Phobane Lake in patch of reeds near the entrance to a citrus farm) * African Pygmy Kingfisher (Ophathe NR) * Dusky Lark 2820_3120 (At the main entrance to Ophathe NR, feeding on the lawn) - This is only the 3rd record for KZN according to Sabap2. * Striped Kingishers (Seen on Schoonstroom farm, as well as West and East of Ulundi) * Chestnut-Vented Tit-Babbler (Ulundi East) * South-African Cliff-Swallow (Near Smaldeel) * European Roller (Seen in Ophathe NR, Very Few reocrds in the Central parts of KZN) * Eurasian Golden Oriole (Heard at Schoonstroom by another member, but If it is the case, there are less than 20 records, and non near this part of KZN) * Red-Headed Finch 2815_3040 (A male seen feeding with a group of sparrow around some kraals, also only about 20 records for KZN and this one being the second futherest East) * White-Bellied Korhaan 2810_3040 I hope this information is of use to some of the KZN listers and birders in general. (Please note that sightings of these species took place over the 21/22/23 of 01/2011) If any futher information is required, feel free to e-mail me or get hold of me on 082 927 0685. Cheers, Justin Nicolau -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110125/21c6ec24/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: Recent rains bring joy to birding From: "Theo Wassenaar" <awr AT mweb.com.na> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:48:54 +0200 Hi Mpho I love the Anteating Chat! Looks like he was massively surprised by something... Great photos. -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of Mpho Phiri Sent: 20 January 2011 10:01 PM To: sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za Subject: [SABN] Recent rains bring joy to birding Hi Netters, The recent heavy rains have brought joy to birding while driving around the country this days, with pools and ponds of water forming along sides some roads. This has brought bird watching nearer home. You do not have to travel far for some birding. If you are lucky enough you may even add something to your list. I have some of the images at http://mafikengbirds.blogspot.com Thanx Happy Birding Mpho Phiri Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain information which is confidential, private or privilege in nature and it is for the sole use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. 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From: Justin Nicolau <j.nicolau AT hotmail.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:47:11 +0200 Hi All, This is just a short message to sum up a very memorable weekend, I would have typed up a much longer trip report and may still do so, but I thought that some information should reach the bird net as soon as possible. A group of KZN atlassers and this obnoxious Student from Jhb (Myself) went to try atlas as many virgin pentads as possible in the area of Ulundi. I may be wrong, but I think we managed to cover between 25 to 30 new pentads, and with that obviously came the ORF's. It is this information that I would like to put out here, as I came across a few notable species for this part of KZN as well as KZN as a whole in some instances: * Red-Headed Weaver 2829_3130 (I think there are only 2 sabap2 records for this species in the province. The bird has a nest on a powerline and thus should remain in the area for some time) * Bronze-Winged Courser (A bird seen on the Schoonstroom farm near Ophathe NR as well as in the NE of Ulundi) * Temminck's Coursers (4 birds seen East of Ulundi) * Icterine Warbler ( seen in Ondini, just east of Ulundi) * LESSER MOORHEN 2820_3125 (I found a pair in a small patch of water on top of the road leading to Mars House within Ophathe NR, this is the 2nd record according to sabap2 for the province.) * Burnt-Necked Eremomela (Quite South East, seen at the Ulundi Airport in the row of Fever Trees by the enterance) * Great-Reed Warbler (Heard near Phobane Lake in patch of reeds near the entrance to a citrus farm) * African Pygmy Kingfisher (Ophathe NR) * Dusky Lark 2820_3120 (At the main entrance to Ophathe NR, feeding on the lawn) - This is only the 3rd record for KZN according to Sabap2. * Striped Kingishers (Seen on Schoonstroom farm, as well as West and East of Ulundi) * Chestnut-Vented Tit-Babbler (Ulundi East) * South-African Cliff-Swallow (Near Smaldeel) * European Roller (Seen in Ophathe NR, Very Few reocrds in the Central parts of KZN) * Eurasian Golden Oriole (Heard at Schoonstroom by another member, but If it is the case, there are less than 20 records, and non near this part of KZN) * Red-Headed Finch 2815_3040 (A male seen feeding with a group of sparrow around some kraals, also only about 20 records for KZN and this one being the second futherest East) * White-Bellied Korhaan 2810_3040 I hope this information is of use to some of the KZN listers and birders in general. (Please note that sightings of these species took place over the 21/22/23 of 01/2011) If any futher information is required, feel free to e-mail me or get hold of me on 082 927 0685. Cheers, Justin Nicolau -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110125/4e1b7a9f/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: Recent rains bring joy to birding From: "Dirk Human (dirkh AT absa.co.za)" <dirkh@absa.co.za> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:26:54 +0200 Agree. Some wonderful photos there!
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Hi Mpho,
Great pics!
Crystelle
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Hi Netters,
The recent heavy rains have brought joy to birding while driving around the
country this days, with pools and ponds of water forming along sides some
roads. This has brought bird watching nearer home. You do not have to travel
far for some birding. If you are lucky enough you may even add something to
your list. I have some of the images at http://mafikengbirds.blogspot.com Thanx
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Subject: Re: Recent rains bring joy to birdingFrom: "Crystelle Wilson" <wilsonc AT wirelessza.co.za> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:12:46 +0200 Hi Mpho, Great pics! Crystelle -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of Mpho Phiri Sent: 20 January 2011 10:01 PM To: sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za Subject: [SABN] Recent rains bring joy to birding Hi Netters, The recent heavy rains have brought joy to birding while driving around the country this days, with pools and ponds of water forming along sides some roads. This has brought bird watching nearer home. You do not have to travel far for some birding. If you are lucky enough you may even add something to your list. I have some of the images at http://mafikengbirds.blogspot.com Thanx Happy Birding Mpho Phiri Disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain information which is confidential, private or privilege in nature and it is for the sole use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you must immediately notify the sender via electronic mail and further refrain from reading, disseminating, distributing, copying or using this message or any of its transmitted files. Any views of this message and its transmitted files are those of the sender unless the sender specifically states such views to be those of the North-West Provincial Government. 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Spitskop dam area Onseepkans Pofadder general area including Koa dunes area Bloemhof dam (Sandveld Nature Reserve) - technically in North West but I wanted to keep the subject line short :-) Are the roads and access roads to these areas passable in a sedan vehicle? Since I sneaked North West in maybe some comment on the "sedan" routes in Mapungubwe Regards -- Francois Dreyer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I view it as a welcome addition to the urban avifauna. I might add that I am impatiently awaiting the arrival of the Common Starling to Pretoria. I rest my case for the defence and look forward to the response from the prosecution. Roger Fieldwick Pretoria -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110125/c66392c3/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: 800 birds for the Bustards. Progress report From: jeej AT global.co.za Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:05:14 +0000 Hi Niall, We are rooting for you, and wish you the very best of luck in your quest for 800 in a year. From, Eric, Jacqui and Humphrey Ehlers!! ------Original Message------ From: Niall Perrins Sender: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za To: sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za To: AfricanBirding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [SABN] 800 birds for the Bustards. Progress report Sent: Jan 24, 2011 10:35 As I haven't yet updated the website, I'll give you all a quick update on where I am at, with the end of January approaching rapidly. My total as at 23rd January is at 399. Bird # 100 on 2nd January was Southern Hyliota Bird # 200 on 5th January was Cape Gloss Starling Bird #300 on 9th January was Common Sandpiper So what will bird #400 be? It will be this week, guaranteed! Who wants to sponsor Bustards in the name of bird #400?! Cheers Niall. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is quite interesting when you consider the impact that alien species have had in countries such as Australia, for example, where introduced rabbits and other supposedly "innocuous" creatures have been responsible for wiping out a huge swathe of their very unusual species. Gerald Durrell wrote about this in some of his books, as I recall. It was the first time I became aware of some of these problems. Eradicating "pests" is a huge problem everywhere but the injudicious use of poisons has an extremely negative effect on birds, especially carnivores and scavengers such as raptors, vultures and Marabou Storks. I read recently on the BirdLife International web site that vultures in East Africa are suffering from feeding on poisoned carcasses of wildlife, where a poison has been used to eradicate wild animals such as lions and other predators to stop them from feeding on domestic stock. Unfortunately, birds don't know that the carcasses are poisoned. They say that vultures in particular could have declined by between 60 - 70% in the last 30 years in Kenya alone and particularly in the last 10 - 20 years because of the practice. If we're not careful, Africa will loose most of its wildlife and important birds. I don't even want to speculate what the consequences for ecology and natural balances in these areas will be - or the ultimate impact on humans. Southern Asia has lost about 80% of its vulture population if I remember correctly and people are definitely experiencing problems now with the spread of diseases (to both animals and people) as well as a surge in the populations of feral cats and dogs. The loss of most of the Indian vultures was attributed to the use of a drug to treat kidney disease in cattle, which had an extremely negative effect on vultures, effectively poisoning them. Apparently this drug is starting to be used in Africa and South Africa as well. Vultures may also die of lead poisoning if they feed on carcasses which have been killed using lead shot and raptors can also be affected by even eating rats and mice that have been poisoned using domestic poisons such as Ratex. With a large number of raptors starting to migrate to cities (birds such as Verreaux's Eagles, Long-crested Eagles and even African Fish Eagles, for example, are now being seen around Johannesburg), using poisons in gardens or to kill rats or mice or deal with those termites under the house is something residents really need to think about very carefully. Makes you think, doesn't it. If we don't stop this, no one else will. Kind regards Bronwyn Bronwyn Howard Editor - The Birder Suite No. 123, Private Bag X2, Dainfern, 2055, South Africa Tel: 011 025 2021 Cell: 084 246 9223 E-mail: editor AT thebirderonline.com Web site: www.thebirderonline.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Anderson"Subject: Most sought-after African and world birds? From: Birding Ecotours <info AT birdingecotours.co.za> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:39:29 +0200 Dear Birders I have started compiling a list of perhaps the world's most sought-after birds, including birds which: 1) I have personally dreamed about seeing (some of them since I was a child) and have now seen 2) I have been dreaming about seeing but have not yet seen 3) World birders tell me are top birds for them I have also started an African version of this list. I would love nominations for what other birders feel are their top 10, 20 or 30 birds in southern Africa, Africa or the world. For me, my greatest birding dream was to see a Snowy Owl. When I finally saw this bird, my top bird I wanted to see became Great Grey Owl. Now it's a bird of paradise, Resplendent Quetzal and Ivory-breasted Pitta highest up on my wish-list. I'd be quite keen to compile a list of top birds according to a consensus and not just according to my own personal preferences. The most asked-about bird for visiting birders to this country may well be Cape Rock-jumper - that is very often the number one target bird for foreign birders visiting South Africa and is the bird they say they most want to see. My initial top (most sought-after?) WORLD BIRDS (African birds later) are (more-or-less in order of priority): Snowy Owl Great Grey Owl Pel's Fishing Owl Resplendent Quetzal Several of the more spectacular Birds of Paradise Ivory-breasted Pitta Emperor Penguin Snow Petrel Tufted Puffin Marvellous Spatuletail hummingbird Sword-billed Hummingbird Amazonian Umbrella-bird Crimson Fruit-crow Hyacinth Macaw Andean or Guianian Cock-of-the-rock (I would choose the latter if only one) a Kiwi Lyrebird Plains-wanderer A Fairy-wren Shoebill One of the two Picathartes Great Blue Turaco, Violet Turaco, White-crested Turaco or Ruspoli's Turaco Wallcreeper A Ground-Jay Green/Inca Jay Great Slaty Woodpecker (or Ivory-billed Woodpecker if not extinct) Satyr Tragopan Himalayan Monal Rail Babbler Beautiful of Velvet-fronted Nuthatch Mountain Quail Chestnut-sided or Blackburnian Warbler Helmet Vanga A mesite A ground-roller White-winged Flufftail - or whatever flufftail one has had the best view of Long-whiskered Owlet Buff-fronted Owlet Any toucan (Mountain Toucans great) Paradise Tanager or Grass-green Tanager Pied Harrier Black Harrier Peregrine Falcon (widespread globally, but if I could choose only ONE falcon to see in my life it would nevertheless be this one - a fast and awesome bird) ---------------- TOP AFRICAN BIRD (most sought-after?) - INITIAL NOMINATIONS: Shoebill One of the Picarthartes Congo Peacock Egyptian Plover Quail Plover African or Green-breasted Pitta Great Blue, Violet, White-crested or Ruspoli's Turaco African Green Broadbill Any flufftail - could be rarest (White-winged) or the one a person gets the best views of Yellow-crested Hemlet-shrike Shelley's Crimsonwing Cape or Drakensberg Rockjumper Streseman's Bush Crow African Grey Parrot (in the wild, please!) Pel's Fishing Owl (or perhaps even better, Rufous Fishing Owl) Congo Bay Owl Standard-winged or Pennant-winged Nightjar White-headed Wood-hoopoe Rosy Bee-eater, Black Bee-eater or Carmine Bee-eater (either) Secretarybird White-crested Hornbill One of the two Ground Hornbills Yellow-bellied Wattle-eye One of the Bush-shrikes, probably topped by Rosy-patched, Gorgeous or Doherty's Golden-breasted Starling Golden-winged Sunbird, Nile Valley Sunbird, Malachite Sunbird (especially Red-tufted Malachite), Anchieta's Sunbird or one of the other sunbirds Black Harrier Taita Falcon (albeit easy to see right now, at two sites in South Africa) Let me know what yours are. Cheers, Chris --- Chris Lotz BIRDING ECOTOURS www.birdingecotours.co.za Cell phone: +27 72 635 1501 --- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Last week On 20th January Thursday about late afternoon 4 Lesser Flamingo were seen flying over Albasini Dam towards western side from the dam wall.I remember last time a single Rock Pratincole was recorded also here in September 2006. Kind Regards, To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Island rat eradication From: Mark Anderson <torgos.t AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:01:28 +0200 Hi SABirdNetters See http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110118/full/news.2011.24.html regarding a rat eradication programme which resulted in bird (including Bald Eagle) mortalities. Regards, Mark -- Mark D. Anderson Chief Executive Officer P. O. Box 515, Randburg 2125 South Africa Tel: +27(0)11-7891122 Mobile: +27(0)82-7880961 E-mail: director AT birdlife.org.za Website: www.birdlife.org.za To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! From: "Mark Muller & Alison Flatt" <mullerflatt AT botsnet.bw> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:37:47 +0200 Well said Hanno & Niall all the best to you - I would LOVE to have a big year for myself & chase 800. How about keeping a diary & publishing it afterwards, as a couple of other folk have done elsewhere in the world!!! I (& I am sure many others) would love to read how it all goes. Best regards Mark. Mark Muller & Alison Flatt P O Box 101 Maun, Botswana Email: mullerflatt AT botsnet.bw -----Original Message----- From: Hanno Langenhoven [mailto:birds AT obenbosch.com] Sent: 23 January 2011 02:47 PM To: sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za Subject: Re: [SABN] 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! Hi everyone I am once again amazed at the way that people on this newsgroup go after other people. In case you don't want to read to the end, please grow up! I have known Niall for a number of years now and birded with him all over the show. Yes to try and see 800 birds are going to cost Niall money, his own. Probably less than joining a trip on the Aghulas to search for birds on the southern oceans! But have anyone ever considered that Niall chooses not to spend money on other things we take for granted? His money, his choice and that should be it! Further, the conservation effort that will mark this endeavour is hardly tacked on the end. One only have to look at the numerous conservation efforts Niall has been involved in. Clearing areas of Pilanesberg Reserve of alien vegetation, monitoring Golden Harvest, initiating ATLAS projects in Madikwe Game Reserve, sponsoring teams involved in Big Birding Day and numerous SABAP 2 protocol cards including a number of hard to reach places. Of course he birds while doing it and enjoys it, hence we get valuable and informed information. What would you rather have; a enthusiastic birder using his time to do bird conservation or someone doing bird conservation that does not enjoy birds one bit? Why do we do conservation and research in the fields we do? BECAUSE WE ENJOY IT AND IT IS A PASSION!! Going for 800 in a year is a personal journey and aim which need no legitimizing. If you want to do it, do it and good luck. To use it to gather funds, support conservation and highlight the pursuit of birding in general via photos, blogs, articles, TV etc just enriches the journey for Niall and others at the same time. And Joel, people are hardly jumping up and shooting the messenger. Lynette could have asked (relevant) questions in private. With all the information she could then have contacted the public web or maybe realized there is no issues. Rather Lynette made a choice that, at least implicitly, casts a shadow on the purpose of the bank account he created as well as his integrity as a person. I have got to know Niall as a person whose integrity is above reproach, who seriously committed to the conservation of birds and who enjoys the passion that is birding. In Bambi Thumper's dad tells him: "If you don't have something good to say, then don't say anything at all." Maybe it is time that we remember this simple rule of courtesy on this net. At the same time applaud someone of not going out birding for him/herself, but chooses to contribute to the greater community of birds and birders. Good luck Niall, may it be a year of memories made, milestones achieved and great birding all around! Hanno Langenhoven Ps. Jealousy is a nasty affliction. -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of Joel Avni Sent: 23 January 2011 02:16 PM To: SA Birdnet Subject: Re: [SABN] 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! PS: If Niall and BirdLife are struggling to recruit someone for the thankless role of trustee they could hardly choose anyone better than the indomitable Ms Rens. And she now could hardly reject their overtures :). Joel To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: 800 birds for the Bustards. Progress report From: "Pieter la Grange" <lagrange.pieter AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:43:01 +0200 Hi Niall I wish you all the best of luck for the magic 800. You're welcome to come and tick bird number 400 in my garden: Cape bulbul. [Free boarding; however, plane ticket not included] Regards Pieter Stellenbosch -----Original Message----- From: Niall Perrins Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 10:35 AM To: sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za ; AfricanBirding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [SABN] 800 birds for the Bustards. Progress report As I haven't yet updated the website, I'll give you all a quick update on where I am at, with the end of January approaching rapidly. My total as at 23rd January is at 399. Bird # 100 on 2nd January was Southern Hyliota Bird # 200 on 5th January was Cape Gloss Starling Bird #300 on 9th January was Common Sandpiper So what will bird #400 be? It will be this week, guaranteed! Who wants to sponsor Bustards in the name of bird #400?! Cheers Niall. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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like I am part of the SARS or Binnelanders SUB JUDICE emailing group
hahaha... ha...no?
(just had a horrible thought of how un-exciting my life could have been)
Anyway.. Looking forward to being a part of this with you NIALL.. did I
spell that correctly?, no matter how small my/our contribution to this
worthwhile cause ;)
DD
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[mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of BARRY PORTER
Sent: 24 January 2011 02:32 PM
To: S.A. BIRDNET
Subject: [SABN] Fund raising
Just a comment for general information.
As I understand the law of our land, any organisation/body wishing to
raise
funds, whether it be for an old age home, or to alleviate the plight of
the
Ethiopian garbage fly, is obliged to register and acquire a "FUND
RAISING
NUMBER" _ .
The possession of this number serves to legitimise the persons
collecting
funds. It allows donors to check if the cause is genuine, and also
serves to
inform the tax man about the scheme. BLSA and all affiliated
organisations,
are obliged to register as section 21 companies, - Companies Not For
Profit.
according to SARS. This ensures that all financial records are audited
and
submitted to SARS annually.
BLSA, and the associated bird clubs are thus covered, as they can merely
use
their NPO registration numbers as fund raising numbers.
It would thus appear that this is the best way to go if funds for any
bird
related project need to be solicited.
Barry Porter
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Subject: Fund raisingFrom: "BARRY PORTER" <hella AT mweb.co.za> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:31:50 +0200 Just a comment for general information. As I understand the law of our land, any organisation/body wishing to raise funds, whether it be for an old age home, or to alleviate the plight of the Ethiopian garbage fly, is obliged to register and acquire a "FUND RAISING NUMBER" _ . The possession of this number serves to legitimise the persons collecting funds. It allows donors to check if the cause is genuine, and also serves to inform the tax man about the scheme. BLSA and all affiliated organisations, are obliged to register as section 21 companies, - Companies Not For Profit. according to SARS. This ensures that all financial records are audited and submitted to SARS annually. BLSA, and the associated bird clubs are thus covered, as they can merely use their NPO registration numbers as fund raising numbers. It would thus appear that this is the best way to go if funds for any bird related project need to be solicited. Barry Porter To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! From: "Bronwyn Howard (Editor - The Birder Online)" <0110252021 AT neomail.co.za> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:42:55 +0200 Lynette raises a very good point. I ran into this problem a little while ago when wanting to do environmental education - you actually need to register as a non-profit and all sorts of things, which gets hugely complicated for a one-off thing like Neill is doing. I think the way Neill is doing it now going through BirdLife is a great idea! Advertising in the BirdLife E-newsletter, by the way, also funds the bustard project, so bear that in mind. Rates are extremely reasonable and BirdLife members get a discounted rate too. Good for you, Neill as well. Bronwyn Howard Editor - The Birder Suite No. 123, Private Bag X2, Dainfern, 2055, South Africa Tel: 011 025 2021 Cell: 084 246 9223 E-mail: editor AT thebirderonline.com Web site: www.thebirderonline.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig"Subject: Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! From: Craig <the AT sylum.co.za> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:14:50 +0200 Thank goodness everyone on the net isn't so an*l Lynette, you forgot to add the tax implications, to both donor and do'nee On 2011/01/23 07:37 AM, Lynette Rens wrote: > I should like to make a few comments: > > The 32 Day Notice Account: > > The Account is in the personal Name of ND Perrins. > > I assume that the account will be used purely to collect money towards this > conservation project. > > It is therefore in effect a Trust Account. > > Is there a Trust document? > Who are the Trustees/Administrators? > > Shoul Niall die before any distribution of funds is made, would this account > form part of his Estate? > > I am of the opinion that while Niall may have all the good intentions in the > world, there are serious legal irregularities connected with this account. > > Sorry to rain on the parade. > > Lynette Rens > 3 Escombe Ave > Parktown > Johannesburg 2193 > Ph: (011) 482 2246 > Cell: 082 5611 182 > > To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. > _______________________________________ > Sabirdnet mailing list > Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za > http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5811 (20110123) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm holding thumbs for you. Bye and regards Lynette Lynette Rens 3 Escombe Ave Parktown Johannesburg 2193 Ph: (011) 482 2246 Cell: 082 5611 182 To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: RFI Punda/Pafuri From: "Dirk Human (dirkh AT absa.co.za)" <dirkh@absa.co.za> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:36:34 +0200 Hi there birding community.
Has anyone been out to the Punda and Pafuri regions most recently? If so, do
you have some information to share with regards to your bird sightings and any
thing else in general. We will be there in 2 weekend's time and I would
appreciate any information you might have with regards to the veld conditions
and some of the specials in the area.
Happy birding!
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Subject: 800 birds for the Bustards. Progress reportFrom: "Niall Perrins" <Niall AT kitech.co.za> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:35:04 +0200 As I haven't yet updated the website, I'll give you all a quick update on where I am at, with the end of January approaching rapidly. My total as at 23rd January is at 399. Bird # 100 on 2nd January was Southern Hyliota Bird # 200 on 5th January was Cape Gloss Starling Bird #300 on 9th January was Common Sandpiper So what will bird #400 be? It will be this week, guaranteed! Who wants to sponsor Bustards in the name of bird #400?! Cheers Niall. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Firstly, thanks of all of you who came to my defence, for the kind words, and to those of you who have sent messages of encouragement! As Trevor rightly guessed, I was birding the majority of the weekend, hence have only briefly glanced at the emails until now. Lynette, thank you for pointing out the shortcomings of my setting up a bank account in my own name. (A private email would have done, but thanks for creating more awareness of the project by the sheer number of responses!) There was no malice, dishonesty, personal enrichment or other intended, but I can understand why people who do not know me at all would be hesitant to place funds into an account belonging to me. Those of you who know me, have placed funds in that account, or wish to still place funds into that account, it will remain open and be used solely for the purpose of this fund raising exercise. I sincerely hope I am around on 31.12.2011 to see the results of my efforts, if not, be assured, that my wife and other family also have utmost integrity and are well aware of what the funds are for and will ensure that they find their way to Birdlife. In any event, to avoid any nastiness and curb this ongoing email thread, I have liaised with Mark and his hard working crew at Birdlife, and deposits towards the White bellied Bustard project may be deposited directly with Birdlife South Africa, please quote "Bustards" as a reference when making deposits, and drop me an email, on niall AT kitech.co.za, stating date and amount deposited, so that I am able to keep track, and give you recognition on my website (sorry, it is still in progress, I will email the link when the final pages are ready) Bank details of Birdlife: Account name: Birdlife South Africa Bank: First National Bank, Randburg Account number: 62067506281 Current account Branch code: 254005 SWIFT: FIRNZAJJ Remember, quote "Bustards" as a reference and please drop me an email. On the subject of spending Rands, Pounds and dollars, well, anyone who has a hobby will know that they cost money. I birdwatch for enjoyment, and whether I had decided to try for 800, or just carry on quietly birding away on my own, the money would have been spent on my hobby anyway. I will now channel some funds to Birdlife SA while still enjoying my hobby, and putting a little more effort in than I normally do. Now, lets all dig a little in our wallets and purses, and raise some much needed funds for this worthwhile project. Think of those poor Bustards! Regards Niall. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110124/0095e8ff/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: 800 birds in 2011. For the Bustards. From: "Niall Perrins" <Niall AT kitech.co.za> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:27:36 +0200 Wow, what a barrage of emails over the weekend! Firstly, thanks of all of you who came to my defence, for the kind words, and to those of you who have sent messages of encouragement! As Trevor rightly guessed, I was birding the majority of the weekend, hence have only briefly glanced at the emails until now. Lynette, thank you for pointing out the shortcomings of my setting up a bank account in my own name. (A private email would have done, but thanks for creating more awareness of the project by the sheer number of responses!) There was no malice, dishonesty, personal enrichment or other intended, but I can understand why people who do not know me at all would be hesitant to place funds into an account belonging to me. Those of you who know me, have placed funds in that account, or wish to still place funds into that account, it will remain open and be used solely for the purpose of this fund raising exercise. I sincerely hope I am around on 31.12.2011 to see the results of my efforts, if not, be assured, that my wife and other family also have utmost integrity and are well aware of what the funds are for and will ensure that they find their way to Birdlife. In any event, to avoid any nastiness and curb this ongoing email thread, I have liaised with Mark and his hard working crew at Birdlife, and deposits towards the White bellied Bustard project may be deposited directly with Birdlife South Africa, please quote "Bustards" as a reference when making deposits, and drop me an email, on niall AT kitech.co.za, stating date and amount deposited, so that I am able to keep track, and give you recognition on my website (sorry, it is still in progress, I will email the link when the final pages are ready) Bank details of Birdlife: Account name: Birdlife South Africa Bank: First National Bank, Randburg Account number: 62067506281 Current account Branch code: 254005 SWIFT: FIRNZAJJ Remember, quote "Bustards" as a reference and please drop me an email. On the subject of spending Rands, Pounds and dollars, well, anyone who has a hobby will know that they cost money. I birdwatch for enjoyment, and whether I had decided to try for 800, or just carry on quietly birding away on my own, the money would have been spent on my hobby anyway. I will now channel some funds to Birdlife SA while still enjoying my hobby, and putting a little more effort in than I normally do. Now, lets all dig a little in our wallets and purses, and raise some much needed funds for this worthwhile project. Think of those poor Bustards! Regards Niall. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110124/c4f222fa/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! From: "Dirk Human (dirkh AT absa.co.za)" <dirkh@absa.co.za> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:09:40 +0200 Niall, I don't know which species you still need, but I would like to point you
to Kgomo-Kgomo and Zaagkuil for the following nice species we saw on Saturday:
Great Sparrow
Chestnut-backed Sparrowlark
Greater Spotted Cuckoo
African Cuckoo
African Pygmy Kingfisher
African Crake
Icterine Warbler
Common Whitethroat
Barred Wren-Warbler
Orange-breasted Bush-Shrike
And one for the other people reading this perhaps as you already have it:
Dwarf Bittern
Oh and I really enjoyed the Dwarf Bittern so much that I have decided to donate
money towards it. :-D
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Sent: 23 January 2011 03:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [SABN] 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year!
The most ironical thing about all of these BIRDERS discussing Niall's
integrity, conservation input, financial prowess, etc. on the BIRDNET is that,
whilst everyone is sitting in front of their computers on the weekend looking
for email discussions to get involved in, Niall is probably the only one who is
actually not seeing these discussions as he is almost certainly out in the
field BIRDING at the moment...!!
Niall, I hope you managed to add a few more species to your year list this
weekend whilst everyone else was discussing you... Good luck in reaching your
target!
Kind regards
Trevor
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Subject: Greater frigate Bird still in DurbanFrom: "Scott Chalmers" <schalmers AT automould.co.za> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:28:29 +0200 Had great views of this bird on Sunday morning ( 23rd Jan ) at Vetche's beach ( near the harbor mouth ) at 6-15am The bird headed off in the direction of the harbor. Regards Scott To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! From: Déwald Swanepoel <dewald.swanepoel AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:35:41 +0200 Listen, it's straight forward. Niall explained how it works, if you want to contribute then contribute, if you don't then don't. But those are the two options, bitching like a bunch of old farts on SABN is not - and it is tired. Déwald Swanepoel -----Original Message----- From: Joel Avni [jav AT telkomsa.net] Sent: Sun Jan 23 16:42:14 SAST 2011 To: sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za Subject: [SABN] 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! Hi All: We all agree that Niall is a great birder, a keen conservationist and a fine human being. But as Lynette gently pointed out there is more at play here. The law prescribes strict conditions on anyone gathering funds from the public for charitable purposes. Let the lawyers on BirdNet chime in with their opinions, but as a layman I agree with Lynette that the plan Niall presented appears to be fraught with legal pitfalls -- which would take little effort to eliminate. Joel To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Great Spotted Cuckoo From: "Stuart Groom" <stuartgroom AT xsinet.co.za> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:12:50 +0200 Evening This afternoon I had another fantastic sighting of 2 GSC young harassing a pair of Common Myna. They spent a great deal of time on the grass island outside Sun City's main gate, between the entrance and exit roads. When disturbed, they fly into the thicket just east of the gate. Definitely worth a visit if you're in the area. Cheers Stuart Stuart Groom Operations Manager AIRTRACKERS Cell: 083 258 5751 Tel: 014 552 1270 Fax: 086 512 3516 balloonops AT gametrac.co.za www.airtrackers.co.za -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Pinpoint, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/pipermail/sabirdnet/attachments/20110123/7040ea84/attachment.html To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! From: "Peter Sharland" <sharland AT openisp.co.za> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:11:05 +0200 I agree completely with Trevor's sentiment. Jenny and I will enjoy tracking Niall's progress - good luck, Niall! You have set yourself one heck of a challenge......... Regards Peter Sharland -----Original Message----- From: sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za [mailto:sabirdnet-bounces AT dbnmail2.ukzn.ac.za] On Behalf Of Trevor Hardaker Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 3:23 PM To: sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za Subject: Re: [SABN] 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! The most ironical thing about all of these BIRDERS discussing Niall's integrity, conservation input, financial prowess, etc. on the BIRDNET is that, whilst everyone is sitting in front of their computers on the weekend looking for email discussions to get involved in, Niall is probably the only one who is actually not seeing these discussions as he is almost certainly out in the field BIRDING at the moment...!! Niall, I hope you managed to add a few more species to your year list this weekend whilst everyone else was discussing you... Good luck in reaching your target! Kind regards Trevor ------------------------------------------------------------------------ TREVOR HARDAKER Cape Town, South Africa MY WILDLIFE PHOTOS See my photographic attempts at: www.hardaker.co.za ZEST for BIRDS Trevor Hardaker and John Graham Pelagics, rarity photos, listing clubs and more: www.zestforbirds.co.za SA RARE BIRD NEWS Get the latest rarity news by joining at: http://groups.google.co.za/group/sa-rarebirdnews SOUTHERN AFRICAN RARITIES Online database of all SA rarities www.rarities.co.za ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnet To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: Re: 800 birds in a year. 2011 is the year! From: Joel Avni <jav AT telkomsa.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:42:14 +0200 Hi All: We all agree that Niall is a great birder, a keen conservationist and a fine human being. But as Lynette gently pointed out there is more at play here. The law prescribes strict conditions on anyone gathering funds from the public for charitable purposes. Let the lawyers on BirdNet chime in with their opinions, but as a layman I agree with Lynette that the plan Niall presented appears to be fraught with legal pitfalls -- which would take little effort to eliminate. Joel To unsubscribe from the sabirdnet please go to the web page and choose edit options at the bottom of the page. _______________________________________ Sabirdnet mailing list Sabirdnet AT lists.ukzn.ac.za http://lists.ukzn.ac.za/mailman/listinfo/sabirdnetSubject: MSC Melody cruise From: "J McLuskie" <jmcl AT worldonline.co.za> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:35:24 +0200 I agree completely with Ken Logan's remarks. Birds great but my first and
last trip on MSC!!! Ian must have spent too much time on the ship and now
knows nothing else!
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