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Bateleur Eagle,©Barry Kent Mackay

18 Mar Banded Pigeon [Bill Adams ]
18 Mar Guthrie GBHs [Jeffrey Eugene Calhoun ]
18 Mar Re: Hawk ID [Larry Mays ]
19 Mar Re: Hawk ID [John Ault ]
18 Mar Fwd: Hawk ID [Lindell Dillon ]
18 Mar Fwd: Hawk ID [Lindell Dillon ]
18 Mar Hawk ID [Lindell Dillon ]
18 Mar Re: Warbler Split? [Bill Carrell ]
18 Mar Re: Warbler Split? [Steve Schafer ]
18 Mar Re: Warbler Split? [Laura Erickson ]
18 Mar Warbler Split? [Bill Carrell ]
18 Mar West Side Fish Crows [Bill Carrell ]
18 Mar Belted Kingfisher in Bricktown [Joe Hawkins ]
18 Mar Re: Norman area and Lake Hefner, Saturday [Bill Diffin ]
18 Mar Least Flycatcher?? [CJ Metcalf ]
18 Mar Re: Norman / Inca Doves [Bill Diffin ]
17 Mar Re: Norman / Inca Doves [Bill Diffin ]
17 Mar Hackberry Flat 3/17/10 [ml2x ]
17 Mar Norman--South Jenkins FOS [Richard Gunn ]
17 Mar Finally...back to Moffett [Sandy Berger ]
17 Mar "Peeps" on Lake Texoma [RENANNE BAKER ]
17 Mar Norman / Inca Doves [matthew jung ]
17 Mar Ferruginous Hk and Mtn Bluebird photos, Minco area [Bill Diffin ]
17 Mar Rose Lake, Stinchcomb WRW, Lake Overholser, Tuesday [Bill Diffin ]
17 Mar Re: return of the kestrels [Mark Cromwell ]
16 Mar Northern Shovelers at Cypress Lake [CJ Metcalf ]
16 Mar Red Slough Bird Survey - March 16 [David Arbour ]
16 Mar return of the kestrels [RENANNE BAKER ]
16 Mar Date on Orioles [Rebecca John ]
16 Mar Re: new member [Dorothy Cooney ]
16 Mar "Where the Cimarron Roams" [Eric Beck ]
16 Mar Re: Date on Orioles ["S. Donnell" ]
16 Mar Date on Orioles [Frank Boston ]
16 Mar Fw: eBird Report - Salt Plains National Wildlife Refuge , 3/4/10 [Rebecca Wolff ]
16 Mar Fw: eBird Report - Salt Plains National Wildlife Refuge , 3/10/10 [Rebecca Wolff ]
16 Mar Re: new mwmber [Frank Boston ]
16 Mar YB Loon/Hefner [Jimmy Woodard ]
16 Mar Re: cedar waxwings [John Kennington ]
15 Mar Re: ID help please. [John Hansen ]
15 Mar new mwmber [Dorothy Cooney ]
15 Mar Red Slough today [David Arbour ]
15 Mar Tulsa Area [Terry Mitchell ]
15 Mar March PCAS newsletter posted [Timothy O'Connell ]
15 Mar Hackberry and area photos 3-14 [Larry Hancock ]
15 Mar Lake Hefner [matthew jung ]
15 Mar Re: Purple finch [John Shackford ]
15 Mar Re: Purple Finch [Diane Trisdale ]
15 Mar Bixby Sod Farms [Bill Carrell ]
15 Mar OCAS Meeting Tonight [Bill Diffin ]
15 Mar Horned v. Eared Grebes [CJOM ]
15 Mar Re: Rejected posting to OKBIRDS@LISTS.OU.EDU [JOS GRZYBOWSKI ]
15 Mar Re: Bridgestone preserve info [Jan Dolph ]
15 Mar Re: Purple Finch [oprakitas ]
15 Mar Barn Swallows [Bill Adams ]
15 Mar Re: ID help please. [Jennifer Kidney ]
15 Mar ID help please. [LindaC ]
15 Mar Re: Purple Finch [RENANNE BAKER ]
14 Mar Re: Purple Finch [Brenda Carroll ]
14 Mar Hackberry Flat 3/14/10 [ml2x ]
14 Mar Re: Purple Finch [Berlin Heck ]
14 Mar Re: Purple Finch [Antoinette Verne ]
14 Mar Purple Finch [matthew jung ]
14 Mar contact info [Sue selman ]
14 Mar Oxley Saturday [Bill Carrell ]
14 Mar contact [Sue selman ]
13 Mar Tulsa Area [Terry Mitchell ]
13 Mar Sooner Lake, Tuesday, 3/9 [Bill Diffin ]
13 Mar Norman [matthew jung ]
13 Mar off list contact for Debby Kaspari [Dora Webb ]
13 Mar Fwd: Mt. Bluebirds / Grady County [Bill Diffin ]
12 Mar Re: Bridgestone preserve info [hanenhark ]
12 Mar Re: cedar waxwings [Berlin Heck ]
12 Mar Re: NEW RED SLOUGH PHOTO GALLERIES NOW ONLINE! [e-womack ]
12 Mar Re: cedar waxwings [Steve Schafer ]
12 Mar Examiner Article - Lesser Prairie Chicken Fence Marking Weekend in Oklahoma [TR Ryan ]
12 Mar cedar waxwings [Susanne Lutze ]

Subject: Banded Pigeon
From: Bill Adams <ba1980 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:03:03 -0700
While out at Humphrey Lake (Duncan, OK) today I came across a Pigeon that had 
been banded.  Saw most of the common birds.  Highlights were the banded Pigeon, 
Brown Creeper, and at least 4 Tree Swallows. 


Pictures can be seen here:
Tree Swallow
Banded Pigeon Side 1
Banded Pigeon Side 2

On side 1 it has 7350 while on side 2 it has:
AU 2009 
ARPU


After doing some digging on the ARPU site, I see it belongs to the AMERICAN 
RACING PIGEON UNION Club out of OK City. 


Went back to the lake this afternoon and did not see it.  


Bill Adams
Tishomingo, OK 
www.southernokphotography.com
Subject: Guthrie GBHs
From: Jeffrey Eugene Calhoun <jecalhoun AT WICHITA.EDU>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:58:09 -0500
  
 
A few of my buddies and I spent the morning and afternoon in Oklahoma City 
today. I enjoyed the Great Blue Heron colony about 10 miles north of Guthrie 
just west of I-35 (I think off of Clear Creek?). It had herons sitting at all 
of the nests as this morning was dawning and again as the evening light was 
fading while on the way home… pretty cool! I noted a few seemingly out of place 
birds in Bricktown, OKC, as well including 6 Cedar Waxwings and 1 singing 
Northern Mockingbird.   

  Jeff Calhoun
  Wichita, KS
Subject: Re: Hawk ID
From: Larry Mays <retrix AT ATLINKWIFI.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:12:57 -0500
 Could be falconer's bird, but Harris's Hawks are seen ocasionally in Oklahoma. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Ault 
  To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Hawk ID


 Yes a Harris's Hawk. Question might be raised about it being a falconer's 
bird. 



  John Ault

  Lake City, FL


  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  From: Lindell Dillon 
  Date: Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:22 PM
  Subject: Hawk ID
  To: okbirds 


 Took a walk around Sutton Wilderness this sun-soaked spring afternoon and saw 
a hawk I've never seen. Perusing my Sibley's it looks more like a Harris Hawk 
than any of the others, but would be unusual to see one here. Take a look and 
see what you think. 
http://picasaweb.google.com/okierednek/SuttonWilderness#slideshow/5450130555825082578 


 Also saw a female Red-shafted Flicker. Lots of Cedar Waxwings on the north 
side of the lake. 


  Other items of interest. Two vagrant camp sites.

  LD
  Norman


         
       



    

Subject: Re: Hawk ID
From: John Ault <jwault3 AT COMCAST.NET>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:39:55 +0000

Yes a Harris's Hawk.  Question might be raised about it being a falconer's 
bird. 



John Ault 

Lake City, FL 

---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
From: Lindell Dillon < reddirtbird AT gmail.com > 
Date: Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:22 PM 
Subject: Hawk ID 
To: okbirds < OKBIRDS AT lists.ou.edu > 


Took a walk around Sutton Wilderness this sun-soaked spring afternoon and saw a 
hawk I've never seen. Perusing my Sibley's it looks more like a Harris Hawk 
than any of the others, but would be unusual to see one here. Take a look and 
see what you think. 
http://picasaweb.google.com/okierednek/SuttonWilderness#slideshow/5450130555825082578 


Also saw a female Red-shafted Flicker. Lots of Cedar Waxwings on the north side 
of the lake. 


Other items of interest. Two vagrant camp sites. 

LD 
Norman 




























  
Subject: Fwd: Hawk ID
From: Lindell Dillon <reddirtbird AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:41:01 -0500
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lindell Dillon 
Date: Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:22 PM
Subject: Hawk ID
To: okbirds 


Took a walk around Sutton Wilderness this sun-soaked spring afternoon and
saw a hawk I've never seen. Perusing my Sibley's it looks more like a Harris
Hawk than any of the others, but would be unusual to see one here. Take a
look and see what you think.

http://picasaweb.google.com/okierednek/SuttonWilderness#slideshow/5450130555825082578 


Also saw a female Red-shafted Flicker. Lots of Cedar Waxwings on the north
side of the lake.

Other items of interest. Two vagrant camp sites.

LD
Norman





*  *
Subject: Fwd: Hawk ID
From: Lindell Dillon <reddirtbird AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:26:10 -0500
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lindell Dillon 
Date: Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:22 PM
Subject: Hawk ID
To: okbirds 


Took a walk around Sutton Wilderness this sun-soaked spring afternoon and
saw a hawk I've never seen. Perusing my Sibley's it looks more like a Harris
Hawk than any of the others, but would be unusual to see one here. Take a
look and see what you think.

http://picasaweb.google.com/okierednek/SuttonWilderness#slideshow/5450130555825082578 


Also saw a female Red-shafted Flicker. Lots of Cedar Waxwings on the north
side of the lake.

Other items of interest. Two vagrant camp sites.

LD
Norman





*  *
Subject: Hawk ID
From: Lindell Dillon <reddirtbird AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:22:34 -0500
Took a walk around Sutton Wilderness this sun-soaked spring afternoon and
saw a hawk I've never seen. Perusing my Sibley's it looks more like a Harris
Hawk than any of the others, but would be unusual to see one here. Take a
look and see what you think.

http://picasaweb.google.com/okierednek/SuttonWilderness#slideshow/5450130555825082578 


Also saw a female Red-shafted Flicker. Lots of Cedar Waxwings on the north
side of the lake.

Other items of interest. Two vagrant camp sites.

LD
Norman





*  *
Subject: Re: Warbler Split?
From: Bill Carrell <okdragonhunter AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:21:08 -0700
To be more specific, there has been no word (or buzz) from the AOU about any 
pending action. 

 
                                           Bill



--- On Thu, 3/18/10, Steve Schafer  wrote:


From: Steve Schafer 
Subject: Re: Warbler Split?
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 3:49 PM


On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:21:41 -0700, you wrote:

>The AOU has not yet signed off on this, and there's no buzz going
>around about it yet, so don't hold your breath.

I "buzzed" about it in October of last year, on this very list:

>And, in case you're keeping score, there's new evidence that suggests
>that they ought to be considered separate species. As with
>Baltimore/Bullock's Orioles, while there is some interbreeding, there
>are also clear indications of an isolation mechanism at the genetic
>level. So look forward to a split sometime in the next few years.

>And, if you're _really_ keeping score, the two resident forms in Mexico
>("Goldman's" [_goldmani_] Warbler and "Black-fronted" [_nigrifrons_]
>Warbler) will likely be split at the same time.

-Steve



      
Subject: Re: Warbler Split?
From: Steve Schafer <steve AT FENESTRA.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:49:46 -0400
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:21:41 -0700, you wrote:

>The AOU has not yet signed off on this, and there's no buzz going
>around about it yet, so don't hold your breath.

I "buzzed" about it in October of last year, on this very list:

>And, in case you're keeping score, there's new evidence that suggests
>that they ought to be considered separate species. As with
>Baltimore/Bullock's Orioles, while there is some interbreeding, there
>are also clear indications of an isolation mechanism at the genetic
>level. So look forward to a split sometime in the next few years.

>And, if you're _really_ keeping score, the two resident forms in Mexico
>("Goldman's" [_goldmani_] Warbler and "Black-fronted" [_nigrifrons_]
>Warbler) will likely be split at the same time.

-Steve
Subject: Re: Warbler Split?
From: Laura Erickson <chickadee AT LAURAERICKSON.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:30:28 -0400
A little bird told me that there has been at least a little buzz about this.

Best, Laura Erickson
(shhhh!)
Ithaca, NY

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Bill Carrell wrote:

> Hello All,
>
>               Well, there's a possibility that all of my speculation about
> which bird will be my 500th lifer *may* be rendered irrelevant. Follow
> this link-
> 
http://www.worldbirdnames.org/documents/TheYellow-rumpedWarblerspeciesgroup.html 

> -which I found on the Santa Barbara CA list regarding splitting
> Yellow-Rumped Warbler into four species; two non-migratory species found
> south of the border, along with Myrtle and Audubon's in North America. The
> AOU has not yet signed off on this, and there's no buzz going around about
> it yet, so don't hold your breath. If it does happen, #500 will default to
> Roadside Hawk at Falcon State Park in February. Plus, a new OK state bird,
> Tulsa County bird, Mohawk Park.....well, you get the idea.
>
>                                                                Good
> Birding,
>
>                                                                Bill Carrell
>                                                                Tulsa, OK
>
>
>


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Subject: Warbler Split?
From: Bill Carrell <okdragonhunter AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:21:41 -0700
Hello All,
 
              Well, there's a possibility that all of my speculation about 
which bird will be my 500th lifer may be rendered irrelevant. Follow this link- 
http://www.worldbirdnames.org/documents/TheYellow-rumpedWarblerspeciesgroup.html 

-which I found on the Santa Barbara CA list regarding splitting Yellow-Rumped 
Warbler into four species; two non-migratory species found south of the border, 
along with Myrtle and Audubon's in North America. The AOU has not yet signed 
off on this, and there's no buzz going around about it yet, so don't hold your 
breath. If it does happen, #500 will default to Roadside Hawk at Falcon State 
Park in February. Plus, a new OK state bird, Tulsa County bird, Mohawk 
Park.....well, you get the idea. 

 
                                                               Good Birding,
 
                                                               Bill Carrell
                                                               Tulsa, OK




      
Subject: West Side Fish Crows
From: Bill Carrell <okdragonhunter AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:37:52 -0700
Hello All,
 
            As I was walking out of warehouse market this morning, I saw a Crow 
sitting on the light pole. As I continued on, he regaled me with a "waak" 
rather than a "caw". A second crow showed up, smaller (presumably a female), 
and the first flew down to the parking lot, picked up a rather decrepit looking 
french frie, and fed it to the second bird, who was doing begging calls. I had 
Fish Crows in this area for the first time last year, but I have yet to locate 
a nest. Corvids are usually pretty good at hiding those, however. 

 
                                                             Good Birding,
 
                                                             Bill Carrell
                                                             Tulsa, OK




      
Subject: Belted Kingfisher in Bricktown
From: Joe Hawkins <joehanselhawkins AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:05:29 -0500
I was showing my Texas granddaughter the sights of Oklahoma City and  
was surprised to find a Belted Kingfisher fishing the stream that runs  
through the parking lot of the Bass Pro Shop. It was a new life bird  
for her.

Sent from my iPhone

---------------------------
Subject: Re: Norman area and Lake Hefner, Saturday
From: Bill Diffin <WilliamDiffin AT AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:48:18 EDT
You're welcome.  He was quite a character as I just wrote to Ben.  Sometime 
you and Ben will have to explain to me what method of time  travel you use 
to get around to so many places in SW Oklahoma in one day.   Just kidding.  
I understand from Dick that a 5:15 am start is one  component.  Club events 
are difficult to get going that  early.
 
Bill
Subject: Least Flycatcher??
From: CJ Metcalf <cjobraymetcalf AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:25:53 -0500
Dear OK Birders:

Would it be completely outside the realm of likelihood to sight a Least
Flycatcher here (Norman OK) this week?


http://picasaweb.google.com/cjobray/ReeceLakeRoad17march2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCOC1pK-fqKeANA&feat=directlink 

 CJ


eMail: cj.metcalf AT coldwellbanker.com
Subject: Re: Norman / Inca Doves
From: Bill Diffin <WilliamDiffin AT AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:00:59 EDT
Sorry folks.  That was meant for Matt  alone.
Subject: Re: Norman / Inca Doves
From: Bill Diffin <WilliamDiffin AT AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:59:09 EDT
Matt,
 
Thanks for the cookies.  They were perfect.  You should patent  the recipe 
and the amount of cooking.  I like mine a little browner than  most say is 
just right.  I suspect others are the same.
 
Bill
Subject: Hackberry Flat 3/17/10
From: ml2x <ml2x AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:11:00 -0500
Hello Everyone,

Mary and I birded Hackberry Flat today from 9am to noon.  It was
chilly but not real windy so it was goodest.  We had 10 shorebird
species today along with 3 drake Cinnamon Teal, a King Rail, a 
Merlin and a Rough-legged Hawk.  Shorebirds of interest:

2        Snowy Plovers
382     Long-billed Dowitchers
109     Least Sandpipers
1         Semi-palmated Sandpiper
2         Baird's Sandpiper
3         Dunlin
1        Am. Avocet
52       G. Yellowlegs
7         L. Yellowlegs
Yes     Killdeer
~40     UnID Shorebirds which was down from ~75 on Sunday...LOL

We also had numerous Marsh Wrens and N. Harriers but no
Short-eared Owls.

Goodest Birding,

Mary and Lou Truex
ml2x AT sbcglobal.net
Lawton
Subject: Norman--South Jenkins FOS
From: Richard Gunn <rgunn1 AT COX.NET>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:11:00 -0500
We had a single Blue-wingeed Teal last week and a bunch more on Walt's Pond 
this morning.. Also, this afternoon a Vesper Sparrow. 


D.
Subject: Finally...back to Moffett
From: Sandy Berger <fsbirdlady AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:48:27 -0700
I managed to get to Moffett only a couple of times this winter. That's a pity 
since I only live about 10 minutes away. But the wait was worth it. There was a 
good number of species there today. 


I had 25 species in just an hours time.  Notable birds included:

Rusty Blackbirds - flock of 80+ birds
robins - hundreds
Bald Eagle on nest
Snipe
LB Dowitchers
Killdeer
Golden Plover
Barn Swallow
Phoebe
Green-winged Teal
Blue-winged Teal
Hooded Merganser
Mallard
Gadwall
Yellow-rumped Warblers - in the mud with the rusties and robins
pipits

Sandy B.
FS, AR


      
Subject: "Peeps" on Lake Texoma
From: RENANNE BAKER <rabbit12 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:47:31 -0700
Sat. afternoon found Bairds sandpipers on Aylesworth Flats between Bridgeview 
Resort and Cuberland in Marshall county. Late today there were 5 Least 
sandpipers! 

Spring,I love it!
Nan Baker
Little City
Subject: Norman / Inca Doves
From: matthew jung <mpjung5125 AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:57:30 -0700
Between 5:30 & 5:45 we had 5 Inca Doves in my daughter's yard.  Matt Jung, OKC



      
Subject: Ferruginous Hk and Mtn Bluebird photos, Minco area
From: Bill Diffin <WilliamDiffin AT AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:48:48 EDT
 
A Texas birder, Paul Sunby, was in Oklahoma last week and saw  Mountain 
Bluebirds and a Ferruginous Hawk southwest of Minco as reported last  week.  
Here are links to photos he generously  provided,
 
Mountain Bluebird,   _http://www.flickr.com/photos/wp_dfn/4440906435/_ 
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/wp_dfn/4440906435/) 
 
Ferruginous Hawk,    _http://www.flickr.com/photos/wp_dfn/4441684578/_ 
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/wp_dfn/4441684578/) 
 
Bill Diffin, OKC
Subject: Rose Lake, Stinchcomb WRW, Lake Overholser, Tuesday
From: Bill Diffin <WilliamDiffin AT AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:03:29 EDT
OKC Audubon Tuesday Birders, Carla Brueggen, Matt Jung, Doug Eide, Charles  
Douglas and Bill Diffin surveyed Rose Lake, Stinchcomb Wildlife Refuge West 
and  Lake Overholser.  The day was planned around a goal of seeing ten duck 
 species.  14 species were seen.
 
At Rose Lake, the most numerous ducks were Northern Shoveler, Gadwall,  
Mallard, Blue-winged Teal and Lesser Scaup.  There were lesser numbers  of 
Ring-necked Duck, Northern Pintail and Green-winged Teal. Flocks of Blue-winged 

Teal flew around the lake showing off their blue  coverts.  Two flocks of 
Cackling Geese took off from the east ponds  and flew west.  The Canada Geese 
stayed in place.  North of  63rd St a Northern Harrier was flying over the 
trees, and a Wood  Duck in the east pond joined two others on the bank.
 
There were Meadowlarks and Killdeer in the fields along Morgan Rd.
 
At the Stinchcomb WR West side entrance a Red-shouldered Hawk was  flying 
and calling in front of the woods across the cattail swamp.  In  the trees 
along the trail to the river were Northern Cardinals,  Harris's Sparrows and a 
flock of Dark-eyed Juncos. Carolina Wrens were  singing and calling in the 
woods.  At the river, a Tufted Titmouse and  a flock of Cedar Waxwings 
perched in the tree tops.  Along the  trail running west from the river, 
Yellow-rumped Warblers were flying around in the dead weeds and tall grass near 
the 

big pond.  A Downy  Woodpecker pecked on the trees.  Harris's Sparrows  
were noisy in some shrubbery.  A couple of juvenile White-crowned  Sparrows 
stayed close to the flock of Harris's.  Two male Spotted  Towhees hopped up 
with the sparrows and sat for many minutes while we  watched from 15 feet.  At 
least one Song Sparrow came into view off  and on.
 
As we walked beside the pond, Mallards flushed from cover near the  shore.  
Lesser numbers of Green-winged Teal, Gadwall, Northern  Shovelers and 
Northern Pintails also took flight. Out in the pond were many of the same ducks 

with  Ring-neckeds, Redheads, Blue-winged Teal, a pair of Bufflehead and  
American Coots.  Near the second nest box, a pair of Wood  Ducks floated near 
the shore.  American Wigeon were  whistling beyond the trees to the west.  
Soon the first of several  groups of Wigeon started flying across the pond, 
showing their white  wing coverts.  The walk back produced nothing new until 
near  the entrance gate a Western Meadowlark was heard singing in the  
neighboring field.
 
At Lake Overholser, a Marsh Wren vocalized in the swamp south of  the 
cofferdam.  A Song Sparrow, a Carolina Chickadee and a Northern  Cardinal were 
seen in the cattails along with Red-winged Blackbirds.   From the parking area 
northwest of the lake we could  see a long raft of Red-breasted Mergansers 
about 150 yards from  shore.  In front of those were several rafts of Ruddy 
Ducks.  A few  Redheads were mixed in with the mergansers.  Double-crested  
Cormorants cruised in groups almost anywhere on the lake one chose to  look. 
 In the trees and shrubbery along the bank were Yellow-rumped  Warblers, a 
Blue Jay and a Downy Woodpecker.  In the grass were  more YR Warblers, 
Dark-eyed Juncos, a House Finch and two Common  Grackles.  Strangely, the 
grackles were extremely colorful in the gray light. The deep blue heads graded 

through green and reddish green around  the upper sides and back to the 
reddish wings.
 
A flock of American White Pelicans was dispersed north  of the fishing 
pier.  A small raft of American Wigeon was  swimming southwest.  More pelicans 
and cormorants were cruising near  the dam.  Still more Cormorants were 
roosting on the emergent  snags near the river inlet.  In the little space of 
open water  downstream of the inlet spillway, Northern Shovelers, Green-winged 
Teal and  Blue-winged Teal were dabbling along the cattails.  Some 
unidentified  swallows were flying over the lake.
 
Canada Goose (RL)
Cackling Goose (RL)
Wood Duck (RL, SWR)
Mallard (RL, SWR, LO)
Gadwall (RL, SWR)
Northern Pintail (RL, SWR)
American Wigeon (SWR)
Northern Shoveler (RL, SWR, LO)
Blue-winged Teal (RL, SWR, LO)
Green-winged Teal (RL, SWR, LO)
Ring-necked Duck (RL, SWR)
Lesser Scaup (RL, SWR)
Redhead (SWR, LO)
Bufflehead (SWR)
Red-breasted Merganser (LO)
Ruddy Duck (LO)
American White Pelican (LO)
Double-crested Cormorant (LO)
Great Blue Heron (LO)
American Coot (RL, SWR, LO)
Northern Harrier (RL)
Red-shouldered Hawk (SWR)
Red-tailed Hawk (SWR)
Ring-billed Gull (LO)
Killdeer (RL, MR)
Mourning Dove (SWR)
Downy Woodpecker (SWR, LO)
Red-bellied Woodpecker (SWR)
Northern Flicker (SWR)
American Robin (SWR, LO)
Carolina Wren vocals (RL, SWR)
Marsh Wren vocals (LO)
Cedar Waxwing (SWR)
Carolina Chickadee (SWR, LO)
Tufted Titmouse (SWR)
Blue Jay (LO)
American Crow (RL, SWR, LO)
Yellow-rumped Warbler (SWR, LO)
Northern Cardinal (SWR, LO)
Spotted Towhee (SWR)
Song Sparrow (SWR, LO)
Harris's Sparrow (SWR)
White-crowned Sparrow (SWR)
Dark-eyed Junco (SWR, LO)
Western Meadowlark (SWR)
Meadowlark sp. (MR)
Red-winged Blackbird (RL, SWR, LO)
Common Grackle (LO)
House Finch (LO)
 
MR -- Morgan Rd between NW 50th and 63rd.
 
Bill Diffin, OKC
 
 
Subject: Re: return of the kestrels
From: Mark Cromwell <mark.cromwell01 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:08:56 -0500
No Purple Martins yet at Perkins either.

Mark Cromwell
Enid/Perkins

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:17 PM, RENANNE BAKER wrote:

> Yesterdy afternoon, on 106,aka Little Glasses resort road, we counted 10
> kestrels on the lines.
> This afternoon, a roadrunner crossed the road in front of us at the east
> edge of Little City. No purple martins yet tho.
> 2 purple finches under feeder this a.m.
> Nan Baker
> Little City,OK
> Marshal county
>
Subject: Northern Shovelers at Cypress Lake
From: CJ Metcalf <cjobraymetcalf AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:56:14 -0500
Caught a small group of what looks like Northern Shovelers at Cypress Lake
in Norman today.  Not great photos (they wouldn't let me get very close) but
good enough to ID with.  Couldn't tell for sure if they had any females with
them because there were a number of mallards close by (but if there were
shoveler females, they were pretty stand-offish from the males).  Pictures
here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/cjobray/NorthernShovelersAtCypressLake16march2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCOfz7rys3PLjDg&feat=directlink 



CJ

eMail: cj.metcalf AT coldwellbanker.com
Subject: Red Slough Bird Survey - March 16
From: David Arbour <arbour AT WINDSTREAM.NET>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:19:01 -0500
Berlin Heck and I surveyed birds at Red Slough today and found 68 species. We 
ran into a couple birders (Chad Fitzmorris & Catherine Temple) from NE Oklahoma 
and invited them to join us. A drawdown in unit 44 has created shallow water 
mudflats which has attracted hundreds of shorebirds and waterfowl. This in turn 
has attracted a Peregrine Falcon which we saw twice today at this unit. It 
caught a bird this morning (probably a yellowlegs) and by evening it or another 
one was back swooping on the birds in this unit. Unit 30 also has some mudflats 
and is attracting hundreds of shorebirds and ducks also. Other highlights today 
included an adult male Cinnamon Teal in unit 44 and a Neotropic Cormorant on 
Otter Lake. Here is a list of all found today: 


Greater White-fronted Goose - 36
Canada Goose - 6
Wood Duck - 15
Gadwall - 525
Mallard - 32
Blue-winged Teal - 145
Cinnamon Teal - 1 male (unit 44)
Northern Shoveler - 123
Northern Pintail - 7
Green-winged Teal - 321
Ring-necked Duck - 70
Common Goldeneye - 1
Hooded Merganser - 6
Pied-billed Grebe - 41
Eared Grebe - 1 (Lotus Lake)
American White Pelican - 25
Neotropic Cormorant - 1 (Otter Lake)
Double-crested Cormorant - 110
American Bittern - 1
Great Blue Heron - 19
Black Vulture - 2
Turkey Vulture - 50
Bald Eagle - 3
Northern Harrier - 6
Sharp-shinned Hawk - 1
Red-tailed Hawk - 5
Peregrine Falcon - 1 (Unit 44)
Virginia Rail - 1
American Coot - 1300
Killdeer - 8
Greater Yellowlegs - 177
Lesser Yellowlegs - 1
Least Sandpiper - 29
Pectoral Sandpiper - 40
Dunlin - 5
Long-billed Dowitcher - 40
Wilson's Snipe - 118
Barred Owl - 1
Belted Kingfisher - 2
Red-bellied Woodpecker - 1
Downy Woodpecker - 1
Northern Flicker - 5
Eastern Phoebe - 8
Loggerhead Shrike - 3
Blue Jay - 2
American Crow - 10
Fish Crow - 1
Purple Martin - 2
Tree Swallow - 14
Northern Rough-winged Swallow - 1
Carolina Chickadee - 3
Tufted Titmouse - 1
Carolina Wren - 2
Bewick's Wren - 1
Marsh Wren - 2
American Robin - 41
American Pipit - 1
Yellow-rumped Warbler - 20
Pine Warbler - 1
Common Yellowthroat - 1
Savannah Sparrow - 9
Song Sparrow - 1
Swamp Sparrow - 4
White-crowned Sparrow - 8
Northern Cardinal - 6
Red-winged Blackbird - 140
Eastern Meadowlark - 4
American Goldfinch - 1

Odonates:

Fragile Forktail

Herps:

American Alligator
Red-eared Slider
Eastern Gray Treefrog
Southern Leopard Frog

Good birding!


David Arbour
De Queen, Arkansas

Visit the new Red Slough Photo Galleries:  http://www.pbase.com/red_slough_wma 
Subject: return of the kestrels
From: RENANNE BAKER <rabbit12 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:17:41 -0700
Yesterdy afternoon, on 106,aka Little Glasses resort road, we counted 10 
kestrels on the lines. 

This afternoon, a roadrunner crossed the road in front of us at the east edge 
of Little City. No purple martins yet tho. 

2 purple finches under feeder this a.m.
Nan Baker
Little City,OK
Marshal county
Subject: Date on Orioles
From: Rebecca John <becajohn_50 AT MSN.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:24:10 -0500
2009 Northern Oriole April 22
          Orchard Oriole April 26

2008 Northern Oriole April 22
          Orchard Oriole April 25

North Tulsa County
Subject: Re: new member
From: Dorothy Cooney <songbird.0514 AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:31:23 -0700
Thank so much for the info!

 
Dorothy Cooney
Wickes, AR





________________________________
From: Frank Boston 
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 7:46:53 AM
Subject: Re: new mwmber

Welcome Dorothy, nice to have you here. At the bottom of this page 
http://www.birdsofoklahoma.net/Hotspotsbirding.htm#Southeast is a list of 
birding hotspots, for the SE region of Oklahoma. I doubt you too far from a 
good one, or two... it's a nice region down there. Take Care 


---- Dorothy Cooney  wrote: 
> Hi everyone, I just joined and want to say hi. I live in Arkansas very close 
to the Oklahoma line and am interested in birding sites near here. I'm near 
Broken Bow and not too far from Poteau. Any advice, suggestions, or whatever 
would be appreciated. Thanks! 

> 
>  
> Dorothy Cooney
> Wickes, AR
Subject: "Where the Cimarron Roams"
From: Eric Beck <oklahomaiba AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:16:56 -0500
Hello All,

Just wanted to share some thoughts on an article I just read written by Gary
Lantz for Outdoor Oklahoma.  It was a wonderful story about the Cimarron
River and the two properties recently purchased by ODWC for the LEPC.  I
just wanted to note that he described both sites in managnificent form, and
if you don't subscribe to this magazine I would suggest doing so.  As you
you know I have a certain place in my heart for the NW region in Oklahoma
and was proud to know that the birding/conservation community just spent a
glorious weekend at Cimarron Bluff WMA impacting this property for the
betterment of the land and its wildlife.  You can read about the weekend at
www.afieldinoklahoma.blogspot.com or you can view the beautiful sunset
photography captured by our very own Timothy Ryan
http://www.trryan.com/2010/03/sunset-at-selman-ranch.html or read an article
about the weekend at

http://www.examiner.com/x-27505-Oklahoma-City-Outdoor-Travel-Examiner~y2010m3d10-Volunteers-gather-from-across-state-to-save-threatened-prairie-icon 

also
done by the talented Mr. Ryan.  Great story Gary and thanks for highlighting
such a beautiful place in our state.

-- 
Eric Beck
State Coordinator
Oklahoma Important Bird Areas Program

ebeck AT audubon.org
oklahomaIBA AT gmail.com
Subject: Re: Date on Orioles
From: "S. Donnell" <sheran AT TOMDONNELL.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:08:22 -0700




Subject: Date on Orioles
From: Frank Boston <thebostons2 AT COX.NET>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:17:48 -0400
If anyone in the Tulsa area has a date for their first Oriole (Baltimore, 
Orchard, any of 'em!) last spring I'd love to know. They were certainly the 
highlight of my backyard migration bananza last year, and I'm ready to get 
hyped up about them again. The only record I have is by my first photograph 
taken, and it was on May 5th. Thanks 


Frank
Owasso
Subject: Fw: eBird Report - Salt Plains National Wildlife Refuge , 3/4/10
From: Rebecca Wolff <Rebecca_Wolff AT FWS.GOV>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:22:28 -0600




Subject: Fw: eBird Report - Salt Plains National Wildlife Refuge , 3/10/10
From: Rebecca Wolff <Rebecca_Wolff AT FWS.GOV>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:21:55 -0600




Subject: Re: new mwmber
From: Frank Boston <thebostons2 AT COX.NET>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:46:53 -0400
Welcome Dorothy, nice to have you here. At the bottom of this page 
http://www.birdsofoklahoma.net/Hotspotsbirding.htm#Southeast is a list of 
birding hotspots, for the SE region of Oklahoma. I doubt you too far from a 
good one, or two... it's a nice region down there. Take Care 


---- Dorothy Cooney  wrote: 
> Hi everyone, I just joined and want to say hi. I live in Arkansas very close 
to the Oklahoma line and am interested in birding sites near here. I'm near 
Broken Bow and not too far from Poteau. Any advice, suggestions, or whatever 
would be appreciated. Thanks! 

> 
>  
> Dorothy Cooney
> Wickes, AR
Subject: YB Loon/Hefner
From: Jimmy Woodard <Jimmy.Woodard AT UNIVARUSA.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:59:48 -0700
 I went by Lake Hefner yesterday evening on my way to the OKC Audubon meeting. 
I found the Yellow-billed Loon near the north end of the lake 

 along the dam. It was very close to the rip rap. I'd say no more than 50 yards 
out most of the time. It was diving sporadically. There was several 

 rafts of ducks of various species. I would estimate around 2000 birds. I also 
saw 10 Common Loons at various places. 


 I also went by Overholser and there were several rafts of pelicans, cormorants 
and ducks out in the middle of the lake. 



Thanks,

Jimmy Woodard
Univar---Oklahoma City
Subject: Re: cedar waxwings
From: John Kennington <johnkennington AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:30:08 -0500
I have no written record of this so the date is not specific, but sometime
in the winter of 1982/83 I was at the Wichita Mountains NWR and saw a great
wildlife spectacle.

On Hwy 115, north of the Cache entrance, along the tree line on the west
side of the road, was a huge flock of birds, at least a quarter-mile long.
Putting my scope on them, it turned out they were all Cedar Waxwings. At the
time I did not attempt to estimate the size, but conservatively it was at
least 100,000 birds, and most likely much higher than that!

John Kennington
Bixby, OK



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Berlin Heck  wrote:

>  Sue--I wrote an article about Cedar Waxwings for the Spring 2008
> "Scissortail", and here is part of what I wrote, in case you missed it:
>
> The "cedar" in the common name obviously comes from one of its preferred
> foods in winter, the fruit of the red cedar.  The "waxwing" comes from the
> red, waxy spots on the tips of 6 to 9 of the primary feathers on some
> wintering birds--a red which resembles red sealing wax (used in days of yore
> to seal letters".  This "wax" has a function:  Alexander Wilson (1832) said
> that these appendages "are intended for preserving the ends of the vanes
> from being broken and worn away by the almost continual fluttering of the
> bird among thick branches of the red cedar.  The feathers of those birds
> which are without these appendages are uniformly found ragged on the edges,
> but smooth and perfect in those on whom the marks are full and numerous."
>
> Berlin Heck
> Broken Bow
>
> *No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings*
> *                            *
> *                                 William Blake*
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Susanne Lutze wrote:
>
> I usually delight in groups of 8 to 10 Cedar Waxwings but I just spent an
> hour watching a flock of about 250 - 300 of them in my back yard feeding on
> berries on the ground under trimmed up Red Cedar trees.  The high winds kept
> the flock in the air more than on the ground as they startled easily but
> with binoculars I was able to get a close up look the butter yellow tail
> tips and the red bar on the wings.  My question is this:
> Many did not have the red wing bar but were not the striped markings of
> juveniles in my Peterson's Guide?? In every way, including size, they looked
> like adults but they didn't have any red on them?
>
> A Tuttle birder
> Sue
>
> bslutze AT pldi.net
>
>
>
Subject: Re: ID help please.
From: John Hansen <majorhart AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:32:00 -0600
Looks like a Redwing Blackbird to me.

We have a few of them in the early spring.

John Hansen   Saint Joseph MO  majorhart AT sbcglobal.net 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: LindaC 
  To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:25 AM
  Subject: ID help please.


    http://www..flickr.com/photos/73023902 AT N00/4435400866/

 my first thought was Starling with different markings but then I am not sure. 
It stayed on the feeder a long time. 


    thanks much,

    LindaC/Okemah




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Subject: new mwmber
From: Dorothy Cooney <songbird.0514 AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:52:24 -0700
Hi everyone, I just joined and want to say hi. I live in Arkansas very close to 
the Oklahoma line and am interested in birding sites near here. I'm near Broken 
Bow and not too far from Poteau. Any advice, suggestions, or whatever would be 
appreciated. Thanks! 


 
Dorothy Cooney
Wickes, AR
Subject: Red Slough today
From: David Arbour <arbour AT WINDSTREAM.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:59:46 -0500
While working at Red Slough today, saw and heard a flock of 65 Sandhill Cranes 
migrating over heading NW then turning west, apparently following the Red 
River. Also heard an American Bittern calling from the marsh in the middle of 
Bittern Lake. 


David Arbour
De Queen, Arkansas

New Red Slough Photo Galleries:  http://www.pbase.com/red_slough_wma 

Personal Photo Galleries:  http://www.pbase.com/sloughbirder
Subject: Tulsa Area
From: Terry Mitchell <terry AT PECOT.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:42:36 -0500
This Evening at Yahola I had 1-Canvas Back, 30-Lesser Scaup, 2-Ruddy Ducks, 
20-Red Breasted Mergansers, 6-Horned Grebes, 15-Bonaparts Gulls and 2 Franklins 
Gulls. Terry. 
Subject: March PCAS newsletter posted
From: Timothy O'Connell <tim.oconnell AT OKSTATE.EDU>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:43:57 -0500
Dear friends and supporters of the Payne County Audubon Society,

I'm a bit late with this month's reminder to check out the March issues of 
FEATHERS and PINFEATHERS on the PCAS website: 
http://www.paynecountyaudubon.com/. Many thanks go to Editor, Webmistress, and 
PCAS President Susan Walker for getting our terrific newsletter posted on 
schedule by the first of each month. 


Included in this month's issue . . . The PCAS welcomes Dani Thompson as out new 
Nature Programs Director, an update of our 1st annual community garage sale 
fundraiser, and a report on Iris McPherson's recent birding tour of northern 
Peru. 


Congratulations are in order to all who participated in the 2010 Great Backyard 
Bird Count (http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/). THere were 97,209 checklists 
submitted over the four days of the Count, and Stillwater again made the best 
showing for the state with 86 species on 119 checklists! 


Please mark your calendars for our next evening program on April 1st at 7pm in 
room 119 of the Stillwater Public Library. We'll hear presentations from the 
2009 winners of the Helen Miller Research Award (Jay Burtka) and the Edwin 
Glover Research Award (Adrian Monroe), as well as meet the 2010 winners, Andy 
Crosby and Will Jessie. 


There are many events and activities coming up in April; be sure to check the 
website for details (http://www.paynecountyaudubon.com/). 


Good birding, 

~Tim O'Connell
PCAS Secretary
Subject: Hackberry and area photos 3-14
From: Larry Hancock <ihanturn AT CABLEONE.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:43:31 -0500
Sunday I made a trip out Hackberry way to see what might have changed with 
wishful thinking for the light always at my back and plenty of good birds 
willing to pose. The sun Sunday was almost always in my face and only a few 
birds close to pose. I did have a couple of interesting birds, a red-tail hawk 
and male bufflehead. First I found a red-tail on a roadkill rabbit. I slowed 
and reached for my camera with hopes of a flight shot of the hawk with the 
rabbit in its claws, it almost happened but the hawk failed to clear the fence 
with the rabbit. The hawk immediately pivoted back toward me as the rabbit fell 
and landed on the post above the rabbit allowing me to get a couple of up close 
shots of him approaching the fence, good thing the camera can focus quickly 
without me having to do it. He kept sitting on the fence looking down at the 
rabbit, ignoring me, like he was thinking how did that happen. Later in the 
afternoon I had a male bufflehead keep flying close to my car, land for a few 
minutes, fly away and return again. I finally got some shots of the take off 
from water. 


There wasn't much new out except the dowitchers and bairds sandpipers the 
Truex's mentioned in their report. The link to the pictures is below. 


http://www.avianfocus.com/sw_ok_3-14-10/index.html

Larry Hancock
Ardmore, OK


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Subject: Lake Hefner
From: matthew jung <mpjung5125 AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:22:08 -0700
I spent a little time this morning checking the lake for the reported YB Loon 
and W. Grebe - no & no.  I did find 2 Horned Grebes and 2 PB Grebes.  There 
were at least 1000 DC Cormorants on the lake with more flying in from the 
east.  


Ducks seen were Mallard, N. Shoveler, Bufflehead, Lesser Scaup and Ruddy Duck.  
The Mute Swan was hanging out with the Goose - lots of A. Coot and 3 GB Herons. 


Matt Jung, OKC



      
Subject: Re: Purple finch
From: John Shackford <Johnsshack AT AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:44:40 EDT
We had at least 5 female and 4 male Purple Finches at our feeder today 
(3-15-2010) in southern Logan County, the most we have seen so far this winter.
 
John Shackford 
Edmond
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
From: Diane Trisdale <dianetrisdale AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:42:57 -0700
I had one male Purple Finch feeding on the sunflower seeds under a couple of my 
feeders Sunday afternoon.  Monday morning I had a male and a female Purple 
Finch on the sunflower feeders for just a short time.  What a treat as I have 
House Finches but seldom see Purple Finches any more. 

 
Diane Trisdale
Cumberland, Marshall Co., OK
(A couple of miles as the crow flies from Nan Baker's home)

--- On Mon, 3/15/10, RENANNE BAKER  wrote:


From: RENANNE BAKER 
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 8:12 AM







This is the " Year of the Purple Finches" at my feeder. I had 3 pair this 
winter and still have at least one pair feeding regularily. 

Nan Baker
Little City
Marshal county,Ok

--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Brenda Carroll  wrote:


From: Brenda Carroll 
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 10:52 PM






Thanks Berlin for the info.  I just got back from visiting my mother in 
Tahlequah where I was able to photograph Purple Finches at her feeders today - 
male and female.  There were at least 2 of each.  Strange I never see them in 
my yard in Bixby. 


--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Berlin Heck  wrote:


From: Berlin Heck 
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 9:21 PM


Note that the new date guide requests reports on Purple Finches be sent to OBRC 
due to their decline (the Finches, I think). 



Berlin Heck
Broken Bow





On Mar 14, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Antoinette Verne wrote:



I have been having 2 male purple finches & 2 female purple finches off and on 
for quite sometime. 

 
Fort Gibson
Antoinette Verne





From: matthew jung 
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 3:29:15 PM
Subject: Purple Finch






Last evening I had the female Purple Finch back in my daughter's yard.  This 
time is was on the ground under one of the seed feeders. 

 
I checked Lake Overholser this AM and found a nice raft of Red-brested 
Mergansers, a single pair of Hooder Mergansers, some AW Pelican, A. Coot, many 
RB Gulls and GB Heron.  

 
At Rose Lake were N. Shoveler, N. Pintail, C. Goldeneye, Mallard, Hooded 
Merganser and Redhead plus a Song Sparrow. 

 
Matt Jung, OKC


Subject: Bixby Sod Farms
From: Bill Carrell <okdragonhunter AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:38:26 -0700
Hello All,
 
                 Late Sunday evening, I saw one American Golden Plover and one 
Upland Sandpiper with a mob of Killdeer near 141st and Garnett. 

 
                                                                     Good 
Birding, 

 
                                                                     Bill 
Carrell 

                                                                     Tulsa, OK




      
Subject: OCAS Meeting Tonight
From: Bill Diffin <WilliamDiffin AT AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:43:30 EDT
Just a reminder to any "lurkers" that there will be an  Oklahoma City 
Audubon Society Meeting at 7 pm tonight in the Will Rogers Park Garden Center. 

The meeting place is accessed most easily from NW 36th  St.  The Garden 
Center is on the northeast corner of the park. The program tonight is on eBird 

and is being given by John  Kennington, president of the Tulsa Audubon 
Society.  There is more  information available at _www.okc-audubon.org_ 
(http://www.okc-audubon.org) .  Please come and  enjoy our company.
 
Bill Diffin
President
OKC-Audubon
Subject: Horned v. Eared Grebes
From: CJOM <cjobraymetcalf AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:54:38 -0500
Wow, Joe!

Thank you!!!

CJ

Phone:     405.701.8338
Reply to:  cjmetcalf AT cox.net


Sent from my mobile


On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:28, JOS GRZYBOWSKI   
wrote:

> Howdy,
>    Single picture ID's can be tricky, as you have one perspective,  
> and all the impressions from that perspective that another photo  
> from a different angle might change.
>    But I think the second bird in the set to be a Horned Grebe, not  
> an Eared.  It is a winter-plumaged Horned beginning to change into  
> spring plumage.
>
>    The bill seems a bit on the thin side for a Horned, but I think  
> it is the angle facing away in the picture giving it such an  
> impression.  The (lower) mandible is not angled up towards the tip,  
> and the culmen actually arches down (so more a blunt-tipped bill (as  
> in Horned) than a pointy-tipped bill [maxilla or upper mandible  
> fitting into lower mandible)
>    Also, in Eared Grebes, the forehead rises to a high point (like a  
> frontal shield) in almost all pictures (you can find exceptions).   
> In this bird, the top of the head flattens out like one would expect  
> in a Horned.  The appearance of a rise in forehead probably comes  
> from the angle of view.  Birds can change this by raising or  
> compressing feathers, but in Eared, the forehead usually rises up at  
> an almost 60 degree angle (on most pictures)
>    In addition, the white at the backof the head is pretty  
> prominent, and the white from each side comes pretty close.  Even  
> well-whited Eareds in this area in winter plumage shouldn't be that  
> prominently white or as large a patch of white.
>   Also, another name for the Eared Grebe used in Europe is Black- 
> necked Grebe.  This bird changing into breedig plumage is showing  
> some rufous tones from feathering coming into the neck.    This  
> could be a lighting issue, but if real, automatically kicks out  
> Eared Grebe--but consistent with Horned.
>
>   The Oklahoma Bird Records Committee in its recent edition of the  
> Date Guide (2009) actually kicked back the dates of spring arrival  
> for Eared Gree from March 14 (in previous editions) to Mar 29  
> (current edition).  While some are now wintering in SW OK routinely  
> (as at Lake Lawtonka) and might appear in other places on occasion,  
> I had earlier wondered why others were recording them (even in  
> groups) at places such at Lake Hefner during March several weeks  
> ahead of when I found my first (usually around Mar 31 or later), or  
> creating a mid-March record base for their arrival.  I came to  
> appreciate that identifications of Eared Grebes actually coincided  
> with molt in Horned Grebes, not their actual arrival.  The Eared  
> Grebes being reported were actually misidentified Horned Grebes  
> molting from winter to breeding plumage (intermediates like this  
> bird here).  For several years, I asked observers reporting early  
> and mid March records how they identified their Eared Grebes.  Found  
> they were being identified as such by their scufty plumage (and  
> presumption--others were being reported), not by upturned bill or  
> highly angled frontal shield peaking on mid-top of head.
>
>   We are entering that window of Horned Grebe molt again, and many  
> might be anxious to tick up their year lists.  Be patient--should  
> see Eareds by Apr 1, or see rafts of Eareds during April.  If you  
> see one early, please document. They are tricky, as this photo  
> discloses.
> CHEERS,             JOE Grzybowski
>
> From: CJ Metcalf 
> To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
> Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 12:12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Rejected posting to OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
>
> Thanks for all the helpful input. I have responses from several that  
> the larger bird is an eared grebe.  Cool.  Another one for my life  
> list!
>
> The bill definitely seemed too small to me to qualify as a loon, but  
> I couldn't find anything else that fit ('cuz I was looking at photos  
> of the wrong kinds of birds).  Now that I compare my photo with  
> these (http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Eared_Grebe/id), it's very  
> clear.
>
> I love this listserv!  :-)
>
> CJ
>
> cj.metcalf AT coldwellbanker.com
>
> CJ
>
> Phone: 405.701.8338
> eMail: cj.metcalf AT coldwellbanker.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 07:46, Brian Davis  wrote:
> CJ,
>
> You're right about the Pied-billed Grebe, but the other is an Eared
> Grebe- nice find!  Differs from the much more common (around here)
> Horned Grebe by the steeply-sloping forehead, very thin bill, and dark
> ear (Horned Grebes have a more or less all white face with black
> restricted to the cap).
>
> Brian
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:52 AM, CJ Metcalf  
>  wrote:
> > Berlin, et al:
> >
> > While I was at Lake Hefner a week ago, I saw the western grebe in  
> precisely
> > the place you described.  Tried repeatedly to get a photo, but was
> > unsuccessful (s/he seemed to know what I was trying to do, and  
> kept ducking
> > under the water everytime I would raise my camera, only to pop up  
> again far
> > enough away that I would have to re-focus; quite a funny game if  
> you're a
> > grebe).
> >
> > Also saw the two birds whose photos are posted here:
> > 
http://picasaweb.google.com/cjobraymetcalf/LakeHefnerWaterBirds27feb2010?feat=directlink 

> . They're
> > not good photos - the birds were too far away to get clearer  
> images, but I
> > believe the smaller one is a pied-billed grebe, very similar to  
> one that
> > visits Cypress Lake in Norman every year in transit to summer  
> housing.  The
> > larger one is more of a mystery - the neck is too short to be a  
> larger
> > grebe, the bird is too big to be a PBG. Plumage suggests a Pacific  
> Loon in
> > winter garb.  Can anyone verify / clarify?
> > CJ
> > eMail: cj.metcalf AT coldwellbanker.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 18:56, Berlin Heck   
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Friday, while en-route to Selman Ranch to mess with fences  
> that attack
> >> Lesser Prairie Chickens, I drove by Lake Hefner in faint hope  
> that I might
> >> see the Western Grebe and the Yellow-billed Loon.  When I got  
> there in
> >> gale-force winds, I could have surfed on the waves (had I known  
> how).
> >>  Neither bird seen.  I then went to Selman Ranch for a full, long  
> day of
> >> torture, pulling staples from old fences in the Cimarron WMA and  
> then
> >> rolling them up.  Of course this involved a mechanical fence  
> roller, but the
> >> job was intensive for this young man, with much walking.  Today I  
> returned
> >> home, but stopped en-route (once again) at Lake Hefner under more  
> civilized
> >> conditions and still failed to see the Grebe.  BUT, I found the  
> Loon fairly
> >> close.  Describe the place?  Go to the second drive in entrance  
> to the shore
> >> road, just before you start over the dam.  Drive down to the  
> shore about 100
> >> yards, and when you reach the first pull-off, it was in that  
> area.  I also
> >> note that the new bird checklists do not include this bird which  
> it should,
> >> in my opinion, because at least one, and in some years two, have  
> been seen
> >> each year since at least 2003.  So, like every other year in the  
> past, I had
> >> to write in the Yellow-billed Loon sighting.
> >> From the Frontier
> >> Berlin Heck
> >> Broken Bow
> >> I think we consider too much
> >> the good luck of the early bird,
> >> and not enough the bad luck
> >> of the early worm.
> >>      Franklin Roosevelt
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> _________________________________________
>
> Brian M. Davis
> Department of Zoology and
> Sam Noble Oklahoma Museum of Natural History
> University of Oklahoma
> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
> Norman, OK 73072
> (405) 325-4772
> bmdavi AT ou.edu
>
Subject: Re: Rejected posting to OKBIRDS@LISTS.OU.EDU
From: JOS GRZYBOWSKI <j_grzybowski AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:28:28 -0700
Howdy,
   Single picture ID's can be tricky, as you have one perspective, and all the 
impressions from that perspective that another photo from a different angle 
might change. 

   But I think the second bird in the set to be a Horned Grebe, not an Eared.  
It is a winter-plumaged Horned beginning to change into spring plumage. 


   The bill seems a bit on the thin side for a Horned, but I think it is the 
angle facing away in the picture giving it such an impression.  The (lower) 
mandible is not angled up towards the tip, and the culmen actually arches down 
(so more a blunt-tipped bill (as in Horned) than a pointy-tipped bill [maxilla 
or upper mandible fitting into lower mandible)    

   Also, in Eared Grebes, the forehead rises to a high point (like a frontal 
shield) in almost all pictures (you can find exceptions).  In this bird, the 
top of the head flattens out like one would expect in a Horned.  The appearance 
of a rise in forehead probably comes from the angle of view.  Birds can change 
this by raising or compressing feathers, but in Eared, the forehead usually 
rises up at an almost 60 degree angle (on most pictures) 

   In addition, the white at the backof the head is pretty prominent, and the 
white from each side comes pretty close.  Even well-whited Eareds in this area 
in winter plumage shouldn't be that prominently white or as large a patch of 
white.  

  Also, another name for the Eared Grebe used in Europe is Black-necked Grebe.  
This bird changing into breedig plumage is showing some rufous tones from 
feathering coming into the neck.    This could be a lighting issue, but if 
real, automatically kicks out Eared Grebe--but consistent with Horned. 


  The Oklahoma Bird Records Committee in its recent edition of the Date Guide 
(2009) actually kicked back the dates of spring arrival for Eared Gree from 
March 14 (in previous editions) to Mar 29 (current edition).  While some are 
now wintering in SW OK routinely (as at Lake Lawtonka) and might appear in 
other places on occasion, I had earlier wondered why others were recording them 
(even in groups) at places such at Lake Hefner during March several weeks ahead 
of when I found my first (usually around Mar 31 or later), or creating a 
mid-March record base for their arrival.  I came to appreciate that 
identifications of Eared Grebes actually coincided with molt in Horned Grebes, 
not their actual arrival.  The Eared Grebes being reported were actually 
misidentified Horned Grebes molting from winter to breeding plumage 
(intermediates like this bird here).  For several years, I asked observers 
reporting early and mid March records how they identified 

 their Eared Grebes.  Found they were being identified as such by their scufty 
plumage (and presumption--others were being reported), not by upturned bill or 
highly angled frontal shield peaking on mid-top of head.  


  We are entering that window of Horned Grebe molt again, and many might be 
anxious to tick up their year lists.  Be patient--should see Eareds by Apr 1, 
or see rafts of Eareds during April.  If you see one early, please 
document. They are tricky, as this photo discloses.    

CHEERS,             JOE Grzybowski




________________________________
From: CJ Metcalf 
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 12:12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Rejected posting to OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU


Thanks for all the helpful input. I have responses from several that the larger 
bird is an eared grebe.  Cool.  Another one for my life list!  


The bill definitely seemed too small to me to qualify as a loon, but I couldn't 
find anything else that fit ('cuz I was looking at photos of the wrong kinds of 
birds).  Now that I compare my photo with these 
(http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Eared_Grebe/id), it's very clear.  


I love this listserv!  :-)

CJ

cj.metcalf AT coldwellbanker.com  

CJ

Phone: 405.701.8338
eMail: cj.metcalf AT coldwellbanker.com  




On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 07:46, Brian Davis  wrote:

CJ,
>
>You're right about the Pied-billed Grebe, but the other is an Eared
>Grebe- nice find!  Differs from the much more common (around here)
>Horned Grebe by the steeply-sloping forehead, very thin bill, and dark
>ear (Horned Grebes have a more or less all white face with black
>restricted to the cap).
>
>Brian
>
>
>On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:52 AM, CJ Metcalf  wrote:
>> Berlin, et al:
>>
>> While I was at Lake Hefner a week ago, I saw the western grebe in precisely
>> the place you described.  Tried repeatedly to get a photo, but was
>> unsuccessful (s/he seemed to know what I was trying to do, and kept ducking
>> under the water everytime I would raise my camera, only to pop up again far
>> enough away that I would have to re-focus; quite a funny game if you're a
>> grebe).
>>
>> Also saw the two birds whose photos are posted here:
>> 
http://picasaweb.google.com/cjobraymetcalf/LakeHefnerWaterBirds27feb2010?feat=directlink. They're 

>> not good photos - the birds were too far away to get clearer images, but I
>> believe the smaller one is a pied-billed grebe, very similar to one that
>> visits Cypress Lake in Norman every year in transit to summer housing.  The
>> larger one is more of a mystery - the neck is too short to be a larger
>> grebe, the bird is too big to be a PBG. Plumage suggests a Pacific Loon in
>> winter garb.  Can anyone verify / clarify?
>> CJ
>> eMail: cj.metcalf AT coldwellbanker.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 18:56, Berlin Heck  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, while en-route to Selman Ranch to mess with fences that attack
>>> Lesser Prairie Chickens, I drove by Lake Hefner in faint hope that I might
>>> see the Western Grebe and the Yellow-billed Loon.  When I got there in
>>> gale-force winds, I could have surfed on the waves (had I known how).
>>>  Neither bird seen.  I then went to Selman Ranch for a full, long day of
>>> torture, pulling staples from old fences in the Cimarron WMA and then
>>> rolling them up.  Of course this involved a mechanical fence roller, but 
the 

>>> job was intensive for this young man, with much walking.  Today I returned
>>> home, but stopped en-route (once again) at Lake Hefner under more civilized
>>> conditions and still failed to see the Grebe.  BUT, I found the Loon fairly
>>> close.  Describe the place?  Go to the second drive in entrance to the 
shore 

>>> road, just before you start over the dam.  Drive down to the shore about 
100 

>>> yards, and when you reach the first pull-off, it was in that area.  I also
>>> note that the new bird checklists do not include this bird which it should,
>>> in my opinion, because at least one, and in some years two, have been seen
>>> each year since at least 2003.  So, like every other year in the past, I 
had 

>>> to write in the Yellow-billed Loon sighting.
>>> From the Frontier
>>> Berlin Heck
>>> Broken Bow
>>> I think we consider too much
>>> the good luck of the early bird,
>>> and not enough the bad luck
>>> of the early worm.
>>>      Franklin Roosevelt
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>_________________________________________
>
>Brian M. Davis
>Department of Zoology and
>Sam Noble Oklahoma Museum of Natural History
>University of Oklahoma
>2401 Chautauqua Ave.
>Norman, OK 73072
>(405) 325-4772
>bmdavi AT ou.edu
>
Subject: Re: Bridgestone preserve info
From: Jan Dolph <OKGreenjays AT AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:47:37 EDT
 
March 16
 
I am on the Western Heights Bridgestone Preserve Committee to improve the  
area.  First, I have talked to Joe Kitchens, superiendent of Western  
Heights School District.  Joe wants the area to be opened to  birders. You can 
enter the area on Council Road. You can park by the picnic table at the front. 

You can see the white and red picnic table from  Council Road.
 
I had a long conversation with Joe on what different areas, like  the Rio 
Grande, in Texas have done for birders.  Joe is all for  improving the 
wildbird enviroment. We talked about how Council Road area  is a hot spot for 
birds during migration. 
 
To make this short, I gave Joe, Jane Cunningham's phone number and the ball 
 is now rolling a little faster. Jane will be meeting with Joe shortly. 
 
To clear up the fence issue.  The fence was put up to help keep  the trash 
from blowing into the area.  It has been a constant  battle for the 
district. Since the fence has gone up, we have not seen any dogs in the last 
three 

or four months. I know that was a concern for many of  us.  The dogs could 
be there. But, we have not seen them.
 
The road construction on 15th Street will be finished soon, we have been  
told.  The school district had nothing to do with the construction.   That 
part of the land is owned by the city.  It is a little shocking when  you 
drive by. I agree. When the city project is completed, we have talked  about 
placing bluebird boxes along the fence line and making the area a wild  flower 
meadow.  We have talked about having some type of running water  feature, 
too.  Hopefully, we can get donations from  businesses, community, and 
birders.  We will gladly do the work that  is needed.
 
If anyone would like to donate benches to be used along the trails,  picnic 
tables, bird feeders, large trash barrels, sunflower seed, wood, metal  
posts, etc.  I would gladly come get whatever you would like to  donate.  The 
school does not have a budget for any improvements. I can  arrange for a 
pickup and help on anything you would like to donate. People have donated the 

following: fence railing, a deer feeder, and wood siding that  we plan to 
use.
 
Would you please E-mail me your bird sightings and the dates, too?  We  
would like to keep a bird list. This information will help when it is time to 

make bird signs along the trails and state bird counts.  If you  see any 
animal prints please send that to me, also.  Please  E-mail me off the OKBIRDS 
list.
 
This could be a really good place for birders if we can all work  together. 
 We have lost so many places that were easy to bird in the past.  This 
could be more than a dream some of us had!
 
 
Happy birding,
Jan Dolph
Oklahoma City, OK
_OKGreenjays AT AOL.com_ (mailto:OKGreenjays AT AOL.com) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/12/10 7:39:19 PM Central Standard Time,  
hanenhark AT SBCGLOBAL.NET writes:

About this 40 acre preserve.......
 
I will be meeting with the school Superintendent very  soon to discuss 
turning the trail into a great educational wildlife  trail for the schools 
there. That is what they want to do.  The  area is owned by Western Heights 
Independent School District and you can  definitely still go in.  They want to 
preserve the  area!!!! 
 
There is a polluted pond and maybe a stream that we  need to clean up in a 
sustainable way to make it safe for wildlife and  children permanently.  We 
have received a grant to do this, so stay  tuned for more info on this 
project.  (I was told that the city had  put that fence in.) 
Jane Cunningham
Audubon Society of Central Oklahoma
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Jimmy Woodard_ (mailto:Jimmy.Woodard AT UNIVARUSA.COM)  
To: _OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU_ (mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU)  
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:38  AM
Subject: Bridgestone preserve  info



I’ve noticed that recently a couple of fences have been put up at the  
entrance to the Bridgestone preserve at SW15th and Council. There are  two 
fences. one at the parking area along SW 15th is short and just  goes for 
about fifty yards but it blocks you from parking a car in the lot,  although 
the metal gate here is usually closed anyway. The second fence is about an  
1/8th of a mile south of the intersection and runs perpendicular  to  
the road. The fence goes as far as I can see to the east thru the field and 
 trees and toward the east boundary fence near the giant landfill  mound. 
I can’t see that far but I would guess it goes all the way to the east side 
 of the preserve. This may be the south boundary of the  preserve. 
I believe the plan is to build a new Western Heights school here on the 
property  between the preserve and the old Bridgestone/Dayton Tire  Plant 
further south. 
There is still walking access into the preserve around the fence and there  
are no signs precluding entry. I will attempt to try and find a  contact 
person at the city to inquire further about continued access, if I  can. 
One additional note, there is construction at the east end of SW  15th near 
the landfill entrance. There is lots of heavy equipment  so I wouldn’t  
try and drive to the east end of the preserve at this  time. 
Thanks, 
Jimmy  Woodard 
Univar---Oklahoma  City




 
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
From: oprakitas <oprakitas AT BRIGHTOK.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:03:44 -0500
I live southeast of Jay and have had a dozen pairs at least all winter.
Still have a few.

 

  _____  

From: okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] On Behalf Of Brenda Carroll
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:53 PM
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Subject: Re: Purple Finch

 


Thanks Berlin for the info.  I just got back from visiting my mother in
Tahlequah where I was able to photograph Purple Finches at her feeders today
- male and female.  There were at least 2 of each.  Strange I never see them
in my yard in Bixby.

--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Berlin Heck  wrote:


From: Berlin Heck 
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 9:21 PM

Note that the new date guide requests reports on Purple Finches be sent to
OBRC due to their decline (the Finches, I think). 

 

Berlin Heck

Broken Bow

 

 

On Mar 14, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Antoinette Verne wrote:





I have been having 2 male purple finches & 2 female purple finches off and
on for quite sometime.

 

Fort Gibson

Antoinette Verne

 

  _____  

From: matthew jung  >
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
 
Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 3:29:15 PM
Subject: Purple Finch


Last evening I had the female Purple Finch back in my daughter's yard.  This
time is was on the ground under one of the seed feeders.

 

I checked Lake Overholser this AM and found a nice raft of Red-brested
Mergansers, a single pair of Hooder Mergansers, some AW Pelican, A. Coot,
many RB Gulls and GB Heron. 

 

At Rose Lake were N. Shoveler, N. Pintail, C. Goldeneye, Mallard, Hooded
Merganser and Redhead plus a Song Sparrow.

 

Matt Jung, OKC

 

 

 

 
Subject: Barn Swallows
From: Bill Adams <ba1980 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:46:21 -0700
Had 2 Barn Swallows sitting on the Murray State College campus this morning.

Bill Adams
Tishomingo, OK
www.southernokphotography.com
Subject: Re: ID help please.
From: Jennifer Kidney <jenlkidney AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:28:57 -0500
Female red-winged blackbird.
 


Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:25:40 -0500
From: lindac1 AT HUGHES.NET
Subject: ID help please.
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU





http://www.flickr.com/photos/73023902 AT N00/4435400866/
 
my first thought was Starling with different markings but then I am not sure. 
It stayed on the feeder a long time. 

 
thanks much,
 
LindaC/Okemah 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.
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Subject: ID help please.
From: LindaC <lindac1 AT HUGHES.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:25:40 -0500
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/73023902 AT N00/4435400866/

 my first thought was Starling with different markings but then I am not sure. 
It stayed on the feeder a long time. 


  thanks much,

  LindaC/Okemah
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
From: RENANNE BAKER <rabbit12 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:12:36 -0700
This is the " Year of the Purple Finches" at my feeder. I had 3 pair this 
winter and still have at least one pair feeding regularily. 

Nan Baker
Little City
Marshal county,Ok

--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Brenda Carroll  wrote:


From: Brenda Carroll 
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 10:52 PM






Thanks Berlin for the info.  I just got back from visiting my mother in 
Tahlequah where I was able to photograph Purple Finches at her feeders today - 
male and female.  There were at least 2 of each.  Strange I never see them in 
my yard in Bixby. 


--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Berlin Heck  wrote:


From: Berlin Heck 
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 9:21 PM


Note that the new date guide requests reports on Purple Finches be sent to OBRC 
due to their decline (the Finches, I think). 



Berlin Heck
Broken Bow





On Mar 14, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Antoinette Verne wrote:



I have been having 2 male purple finches & 2 female purple finches off and on 
for quite sometime. 

 
Fort Gibson
Antoinette Verne





From: matthew jung 
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 3:29:15 PM
Subject: Purple Finch






Last evening I had the female Purple Finch back in my daughter's yard.  This 
time is was on the ground under one of the seed feeders. 

 
I checked Lake Overholser this AM and found a nice raft of Red-brested 
Mergansers, a single pair of Hooder Mergansers, some AW Pelican, A. Coot, many 
RB Gulls and GB Heron.  

 
At Rose Lake were N. Shoveler, N. Pintail, C. Goldeneye, Mallard, Hooded 
Merganser and Redhead plus a Song Sparrow. 

 
Matt Jung, OKC


Subject: Re: Purple Finch
From: Brenda Carroll <bcarroll47 AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:52:46 -0700
Thanks Berlin for the info.  I just got back from visiting my mother in 
Tahlequah where I was able to photograph Purple Finches at her feeders today - 
male and female.  There were at least 2 of each.  Strange I never see them in 
my yard in Bixby. 


--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Berlin Heck  wrote:


From: Berlin Heck 
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 9:21 PM


Note that the new date guide requests reports on Purple Finches be sent to OBRC 
due to their decline (the Finches, I think). 



Berlin Heck
Broken Bow





On Mar 14, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Antoinette Verne wrote:



I have been having 2 male purple finches & 2 female purple finches off and on 
for quite sometime. 

 
Fort Gibson
Antoinette Verne





From: matthew jung 
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 3:29:15 PM
Subject: Purple Finch






Last evening I had the female Purple Finch back in my daughter's yard.  This 
time is was on the ground under one of the seed feeders. 

 
I checked Lake Overholser this AM and found a nice raft of Red-brested 
Mergansers, a single pair of Hooder Mergansers, some AW Pelican, A. Coot, many 
RB Gulls and GB Heron.  

 
At Rose Lake were N. Shoveler, N. Pintail, C. Goldeneye, Mallard, Hooded 
Merganser and Redhead plus a Song Sparrow. 

 
Matt Jung, OKC





      
Subject: Hackberry Flat 3/14/10
From: ml2x <ml2x AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:32:42 -0500
Hello Everyone,

Mary and I birded Hackberry Flat today finding 7 shorebird
species.  It was really windy and there is mucho water so we
should be setting up for a good migration season.  We had 1
Neotropic Cormorant in the trees on the lake.  
Birds of interest:

236    Long-billed Dowitchers
34      Greater Yellowlegs
1        Lesser Yellowlegs
1        Snowy Plover
1        Am Avocet
4        Baird's Sandpipers
Yes    Killdeer

The killdeer were really coming in.  There were several BW Teal
but we didn't find a Cinnamon.....maybe later this week.  
We went to the Prairie Dog town NW of Davidson and the 
landowner had run a disc through the area.  We did not see any 
Burrowing Owls nor have we seen any there since early December.

Goodest Birding,

Mary and Lou Truex
ml2x AT sbcglobal.net
Lawton
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
From: Berlin Heck <baheck AT PINE-NET.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:21:18 -0500
Note that the new date guide requests reports on Purple Finches be  
sent to OBRC due to their decline (the Finches, I think).

Berlin Heck
Broken Bow


On Mar 14, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Antoinette Verne wrote:

> I have been having 2 male purple finches & 2 female purple finches  
> off and on for quite sometime.
>
> Fort Gibson
> Antoinette Verne
>
> From: matthew jung 
> To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
> Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 3:29:15 PM
> Subject: Purple Finch
>
> Last evening I had the female Purple Finch back in my daughter's  
> yard.  This time is was on the ground under one of the seed feeders.
>
> I checked Lake Overholser this AM and found a nice raft of Red- 
> brested Mergansers, a single pair of Hooder Mergansers, some AW  
> Pelican, A. Coot, many RB Gulls and GB Heron.
>
> At Rose Lake were N. Shoveler, N. Pintail, C. Goldeneye, Mallard,  
> Hooded Merganser and Redhead plus a Song Sparrow.
>
> Matt Jung, OKC
>
>
Subject: Re: Purple Finch
From: Antoinette Verne <antoinetteverne AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:30:59 -0700
I have been having 2 male purple finches & 2 female purple finches off and on 
for quite sometime. 


Fort Gibson
Antoinette Verne




________________________________
From: matthew jung 
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 3:29:15 PM
Subject: Purple Finch


Last evening I had the female Purple Finch back in my daughter's yard.  This 
time is was on the ground under one of the seed feeders. 


I checked Lake Overholser this AM and found a nice raft of Red-brested 
Mergansers, a single pair of Hooder Mergansers, some AW Pelican, A. Coot, many 
RB Gulls and GB Heron.  


At Rose Lake were N. Shoveler, N. Pintail, C. Goldeneye, Mallard, Hooded 
Merganser and Redhead plus a Song Sparrow. 


Matt Jung, OKC 
Subject: Purple Finch
From: matthew jung <mpjung5125 AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:29:15 -0700
Last evening I had the female Purple Finch back in my daughter's yard.  This 
time is was on the ground under one of the seed feeders. 

 
I checked Lake Overholser this AM and found a nice raft of Red-brested 
Mergansers, a single pair of Hooder Mergansers, some AW Pelican, A. Coot, many 
RB Gulls and GB Heron.  

 
At Rose Lake were N. Shoveler, N. Pintail, C. Goldeneye, Mallard, Hooded 
Merganser and Redhead plus a Song Sparrow. 

 
Matt Jung, OKC


      
Subject: contact info
From: Sue selman <selmanranch AT WILDBLUE.NET>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:18:18 -0500
 If there is any confusion I am would like for Larry Hancock from Ardmore to 
contact me off line. Larry was at my ranch with the fence marking group. 

 Sue Selman
Subject: Oxley Saturday
From: Bill Carrell <okdragonhunter AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:50:40 -0700
Hello All,
 
           Mid-morning on Lake Sherry, saw 16 Tree Swallows, 2 Barn Swallows, 1 
Rough-Winged Swallow and 8 Pintails. At home, observed an Eastern Phoebe doing 
a territorial/courtship display. He would fly above tree-top level, alternately 
flapping and gliding with wings uptilted, doing chip and "da-dit" calls before 
landing on a high perch and doing "phoebe" calls reapeatedly. 

 
                                                                Good Birding,
 
                                                                Bill Carrell
                                                                Tulsa, Ok




      
Subject: contact
From: Sue selman <selmanranch AT WILDBLUE.NET>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:38:48 -0500
Hi Larry would you please contact me on my personal email.
Sue Selman
selmanranch AT wildblue.net
Subject: Tulsa Area
From: Terry Mitchell <terry AT PECOT.COM>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:57:18 -0600
I had 1 lonely Bairds Sandpiper  at Yahola this evening. Terry.
Subject: Sooner Lake, Tuesday, 3/9
From: Bill Diffin <WilliamDiffin AT AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:34:06 EST
OKC Audubon Tuesday Birders Terri Underhill, Charles Douglas and Bill  
Diffin arrived at Sooner Lake just before 8:30 am.  We first tried the area  
southwest of the lake for the White-tailed Kite, but didn't find it.  After  
seeing several Northern Harriers, we were surprised by a Rough-legged  Hawk 
gliding low over the grassland.  It climbed higher and  soared over the road 
showing us the black belly and dark wing spots  characteristic of a light 
morph.  27 Ring-necked Ducks and a couple of  American Coots were in a little 
farm pond.  American  Crows, Eastern Meadowlarks and Red-tailed Hawks made 
the first of  their many appearances around the lake.
 
Checking the road north of 412 didn't produce the kite.  But we were  kept 
busy by a couple of Red-shafted Flickers, three Eastern Bluebirds, a  
Northern Mockingbird and an Eastern Phoebe. We thought there should be snipe in 

at least one of the marshy low spots, but we  didn't find any.  Going north 
on CR210 took us through a little  wetland and wooded stream bottom near 
Ranch Rd.  The first Loggerhead  Shrike of the day flew away from the road to 
the woods.  The little pond  had three Ring-necked Ducks and two Gadwall 
looking perfect in the  morning sun.  Three Eastern Phoebes were around the 
creek and nearby farm buildings. The road north parallels a stream to the east 

with the  next crossing near Tumbleweed Rd.  Around the crossing we  saw 
eight Slate-colored Juncos, 30 American Robins, two Eastern Bluebirds, four  
Carolina Chickadees, a Northern Cardinal, Downy WP, Red-bellied WP and 
Northern  Flicker.  The wren singing in the undergrowth never showed itself.   
East on Tumbleweed Rd, 30 Gadwall and two Mallards were on a farm  pond.  A 
Field Sparrow played hide and seek with us in  the shrubbery.
 
Going south on 177, 75 American Coots were in a tight raft close to  the 
lakeshore, and five Double-crested Cormorants were roosting on some  snags.  
Four Red-winged Blackbirds and 15 Great-tailed Grackles perched in  trees 
nearby.  At the southwest public access point,  three Savannah  Sparrows were 
seen along the fence. Four Killdeer and a Brown-headed  Cowbird were scouring 
the ground with six Meadowlarks and a Great-tailed  Grackle.  Most of three 
dozen Red-winged Blackbirds perched in a couple of  trees, but a few were 
on the ground with the other birds.  Several groups  of American Coots were 
scattered around the inlet.
 
Proceeding east on 15, we observed Yellow-rumped Warblers in shrubbery both 
 north and south of the road.  At the bridge over the big inlet, 33  
Bufflehead and seven Common Goldeneye were in the lake to the north. Other 
birds 

in the area were an Eastern Phoebe, an American Kestrel and a Turkey  
Vulture.  Turning north on the first county road, N3360, east of the  lake, we 
proceeded to the gate at road's end.  On the lake were a  Common Loon, 
thirteen Common Goldeneye, 2 Lesser Scaup and a Bufflehead. We returned to 15 
and 

traveled east a half mile to the old school house where  the new Eaglecam 
nest is visible.  A Bald Eagle was sitting on the nest. As  we were taking 
pictures, four more eagles gathered over the field to the east  and engaged in 
some close proximity aerial maneuvers.  Eastern  Bluebirds kept appearing 
on the fences and utility wires.  Three Northern  Harriers were seen hunting 
the grassland.  Two birders from out of state,  Rick and Linda, joined us 
while we watched the eagles.  They were visiting  from Wyoming on a search for 
Smith's Longspurs.  We gave them our  best advice on where to find them 
including spots around the lake and the  field in Norman.
 
We ate a picnic lunch, courtesy of Terri Underhill, at the public  access 
point southeast of the lake. Then we went back to the southwest of  the lake 
to recheck for the kite.  In the same area we saw one Rough-legged  Hawk 
hunting in the morning, there were now two.  They were very  similar looking 
light morphs, presumably the two photographed by Davis,  Arterburn and 
Vamraak.  When they left to the south, they traveled  together.  Again no kite.
 
We traveled back to the lake on Ranch Rd to cover some new ground.   South 
of the road there was a varied collection of waterfowl in a farmer's field  
dotted with puddles and a pond -- 20 Canada and Cackling Geese, 70 Mallards, 
15  Green-winged Teal, four Northern Shovelers, two Northern Pintail and 
two  Bufflehead.  Three Ring-necked Pheasants (m+2f) ran or flew across the  
road.  A pond north had six Ring-necked Ducks and four Gadwall.
 
We went north on 177 to Windmill Rd and traversed east along the north side 
 of the lake all the way to the bridge across Red Rock Creek.  Across  the 
bridge, Charles and Bill hiked a little way along the road into the  woods 
in search of Rusty Blackbirds but didn't come up with any.  The  short walk 
was made worthwhile by a Red-bellied WP, four Northern Flickers,  a Blue Jay 
and twelve Mourning Doves. Terri watched a  Belted Kingfisher along the 
creek.
 
We traveled south and east to the sand plant area northeast of  the lake.  
Along the way we saw a soaring Red-shouldered  Hawk, Eastern Phoebe and 
Loggerhead Shrike. A Bald Eagle was sitting on the nest in the big cottonwoods 

below the dam.  At the sand  plant, four FOS Forster's Terns were flying 
around the pit.  28  Sandhill Cranes flew over, and a Turkey Vulture soared 
over the hills to the  east.  
 
Traveling south on the NS county road east of the dam, we encountered  a 
mixed flock of sparrows at the top of the rise defining the south  bank of the 
outfall creek basin.  Among the skittish flock, we were able  to identify 
15 White-crowned, three Harris's, two Song, and four American  Tree Sparrows 
and four DE Juncos.  A couple of Eastern Phoebes liked the  spot as well.  A 
little farther south, two Ring-necked Pheasant cocks were  walking the 
roadside fence line, occasionally coming into plain  view.  Their reddish gold 
body feathers had a blue-green sheen on  the back and breast.  They looked 
very large when they flew across the road  just in front of us.
 
On the way home, we made one more pass by the area southwest of the  lake, 
but didn't see the kite.  Our last bird of the day was a single  Brewer's 
Blackbird sitting on the barbed wire beside CR170 south of Quail  Rd.
 
Bill Diffin, OKC
 
 
 
 
Subject: Norman
From: matthew jung <mpjung5125 AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:24:36 -0800
Today along S. Jenkins were Wood Duck, Mallard, Gadwall, Ring-necked Duck and 
Northern Shoveler.  I also found one juv. Yellow-bellied Sapsucker, two 
Pileated Woodpeckers and lots of the expected species.  The Marsh Wren has 
moved south, all the way to where the creek meets the river.  Saw my first 
Mourning Dove of the year along S. Jenkins. 

 
The Winter Wren was singing yesterday by the 'arches' and I had two Fox 
Sparrows in the tangle at the south side of the woods.  My daughter's yard held 
WT Sparrow, Harris's Sparrow, Lincoln's Sparrow, Inca Dove, Mourning Dove, 
Sharp-shinned Hawk, OC Warbler, YR Warbler along with the common yard birds. 

 
Found a small flock of WC Sparrows near the red shed both days.
 
Matt Jung
 
 
 
 


      
Subject: off list contact for Debby Kaspari
From: Dora Webb <owl112 AT COX.NET>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:35:52 -0600
Hello Debby Kaspari,
Would you please contact me off list.
Dora Webb
Edmond, OK
owl112 AT cox.net
Subject: Fwd: Mt. Bluebirds / Grady County
From: Bill Diffin <WilliamDiffin AT AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:16:32 EST
I received the note below from a non-member of the list who wanted to  
inform us of Mt. Bluebirds and a Ferruginous Hawk west of Minco and south of  
Buggy Creek.
 
Bill Diffin, OKCBill,

 

Hello there.  I was in Oklahoma this week for work and saw some Mountain
Bluebirds in Grady County on Wednesday the 10th.  Seems like a good
winter for them so maybe not of interest, but wanted to get word out in
case it was.  I didn't know who I should send this to and just picked
your name off the Oklahoma bird listserve as you seem to be an active
birder in the general OKC area.  

 

If interested, I had a flock of about 10 (mostly female) along CS 2810
immediately south of CR 1210, and a flock of 6 along CS 2790 about a
half mile south of CR 1180.  Both locations are southwest of the Town of
Minco in northwest Grady County.  Also had an adult Ferruginous Hawk
along CS 2800 north of CR 1190.

 

While driving back yesterday I stopped at Hackberry Flats.  One flock of
geese (mostly Snow and White-fronted with some Ross's and Cackling) and
what I imagine are the standard ducks, with not a whole lot else.  One
female Common Goldeneye was a nice surprise for me.

 

I hope you are well and enjoy the weekend.

 

Best regards,

 

Paul Sunby

Austin, Texas

 

 
Subject: Re: Bridgestone preserve info
From: hanenhark <hanenhark AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:38:47 -0600
About this 40 acre preserve.......

I will be meeting with the school Superintendent very soon to discuss turning 
the trail into a great educational wildlife trail for the schools there. That 
is what they want to do. The area is owned by Western Heights Independent 
School District and you can definitely still go in. They want to preserve the 
area!!!! 


There is a polluted pond and maybe a stream that we need to clean up in a 
sustainable way to make it safe for wildlife and children permanently. We have 
received a grant to do this, so stay tuned for more info on this project. (I 
was told that the city had put that fence in.) 

Jane Cunningham
Audubon Society of Central Oklahoma
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jimmy Woodard 
  To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:38 AM
  Subject: Bridgestone preserve info


 I've noticed that recently a couple of fences have been put up at the entrance 
to the Bridgestone preserve at SW15th and Council. There are two 


 fences. one at the parking area along SW 15th is short and just goes for about 
fifty yards but it blocks you from parking a car in the lot, although 


 the metal gate here is usually closed anyway. The second fence is about an 
1/8th of a mile south of the intersection and runs perpendicular to 


 the road. The fence goes as far as I can see to the east thru the field and 
trees and toward the east boundary fence near the giant landfill mound. 


 I can't see that far but I would guess it goes all the way to the east side of 
the preserve. This may be the south boundary of the preserve. 


   

 I believe the plan is to build a new Western Heights school here on the 
property between the preserve and the old Bridgestone/Dayton Tire Plant 


                          further south.

   

 There is still walking access into the preserve around the fence and there are 
no signs precluding entry. I will attempt to try and find a contact 


 person at the city to inquire further about continued access, if I can. 


   

 One additional note, there is construction at the east end of SW 15th near the 
landfill entrance. There is lots of heavy equipment so I wouldn't 


 try and drive to the east end of the preserve at this time. 


                          

   

  Thanks,

   

  Jimmy Woodard

  Univar---Oklahoma City

   
Subject: Re: cedar waxwings
From: Berlin Heck <baheck AT PINE-NET.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:34:41 -0600
Sue--I wrote an article about Cedar Waxwings for the Spring 2008  
"Scissortail", and here is part of what I wrote, in case you missed it:

The "cedar" in the common name obviously comes from one of its  
preferred foods in winter, the fruit of the red cedar.  The "waxwing"  
comes from the red, waxy spots on the tips of 6 to 9 of the primary  
feathers on some wintering birds--a red which resembles red sealing  
wax (used in days of yore to seal letters".  This "wax" has a  
function:  Alexander Wilson (1832) said that these appendages "are  
intended for preserving the ends of the vanes from being broken and  
worn away by the almost continual fluttering of the bird among thick  
branches of the red cedar.  The feathers of those birds which are  
without these appendages are uniformly found ragged on the edges, but  
smooth and perfect in those on whom the marks are full and numerous."

Berlin Heck
Broken Bow

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings

                                  William Blake


On Mar 12, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Susanne Lutze wrote:

> I usually delight in groups of 8 to 10 Cedar Waxwings but I just  
> spent an hour watching a flock of about 250 - 300 of them in my  
> back yard feeding on berries on the ground under trimmed up Red  
> Cedar trees.  The high winds kept the flock in the air more than on  
> the ground as they startled easily but with binoculars I was able  
> to get a close up look the butter yellow tail tips and the red bar  
> on the wings.  My question is this:
> Many did not have the red wing bar but were not the striped  
> markings of juveniles in my Peterson's Guide?? In every way,  
> including size, they looked like adults but they didn't have any  
> red on them?
>
> A Tuttle birder
> Sue
>
> bslutze AT pldi.net
Subject: Re: NEW RED SLOUGH PHOTO GALLERIES NOW ONLINE!
From: e-womack <e-womack AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:28:20 -0600
Wow - Excellent.  Many thanks!
Ellie Womack
Grove, OK
Subject: Re: cedar waxwings
From: Steve Schafer <steve AT FENESTRA.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:55:40 -0500
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:46:24 -0600, you wrote:

>Many did not have the red wing bar but were not the striped markings of
>juveniles in my Peterson's Guide?? In every way, including size, they
>looked like adults but they didn't have any red on them?

In most birds, the first molt involves only the replacement of body
feathers, not flight feathers. So the birds that you see without "wax"
tips on their secondaries are birds that were born last year (i.e.,
they're a little less than a year old). They've molted into their "first
basic" plumage, which is much like the "definitive basic" plumage of
adults, but because they still have their original flight feathers,
there's no wax.

Even in adults, there's a lot of individual variation in the amount of
"wax" on the feather tips. It's not clear whether the variation is
genetic, related to diet, etc.

-Steve
Subject: Examiner Article - Lesser Prairie Chicken Fence Marking Weekend in Oklahoma
From: TR Ryan <trryan AT AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:49:56 -0600
Here is a link to the article that appeared in the Examiner this week
detailing last weekend¹s fence marking event coordinated by Eric Beck in
partnership with the ODWC, Sutton Center, Oklahoma Audubon Society and
Selman Ranch.

At the bottom of the article is a photo gallery with highlights of the
weekend including that very impressive sunset at Selman Ranch Saturday
evening.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-27505-Oklahoma-City-Outdoor-Travel-Examin
er~y2010m3d10-Volunteers-gather-from-across-state-to-save-threatened-prairie
-icon


> 
> 

Subject: cedar waxwings
From: Susanne Lutze <bslutze AT PLDI.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:46:24 -0600
I usually delight in groups of 8 to 10 Cedar Waxwings but I just spent an hour 
watching a flock of about 250 - 300 of them in my back yard feeding on berries 
on the ground under trimmed up Red Cedar trees. The high winds kept the flock 
in the air more than on the ground as they startled easily but with binoculars 
I was able to get a close up look the butter yellow tail tips and the red bar 
on the wings. My question is this: 

Many did not have the red wing bar but were not the striped markings of 
juveniles in my Peterson's Guide?? In every way, including size, they looked 
like adults but they didn't have any red on them? 


A Tuttle birder
Sue

bslutze AT pldi.net