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9 Jan Austin, Tx - Part 2. semi-automating a night flight station using OLDBIRD software and Excel [Mike Farmer ] 9 Jan Re:Austin, Tx - Part 1. Semi-automating a night flight station using OLDBIRD software and Excel [Mike Farmer ] 5 Jan Austin, Tx - another macro [Mike Farmer ] 4 Jan Re: Austin, TX - Listening Stations - 24 Nov to 31 Dec [Bill Evans ] 4 Jan Austin, TX - Listening Stations - 24 Nov to 31 Dec [Mike Farmer ] 19 Dec Austin, TX - Listening Station - Getting GlassOFire to display tic marks [Mike Farmer ] 16 Dec Oldbird mic for sale [Dave Slager ] 5 Dec Austin, TX - Night Flight - 16 to 30 Nov [Mike Farmer ] 1 Dec Re: Unknown [bob mcguire ] 1 Dec RE: Unknown [Chris Tessaglia-Hymes ] 1 Dec Unknown [Bill Evans ] 24 Nov Wanted: Raw Western Night Flight Recordings [Dan Gusset ] 18 Nov Austin, TX - a newbie's point of view [Mike Farmer ] 17 Nov Austin, TX - Night Flight - 1 to 15 Nov [Mike Farmer ] 16 Nov Re: How late into the fall do New York/Mid-Atlantic nfc'ers record/listen? [Andy Martin ] 12 Nov How late into the fall do New York/Mid-Atlantic nfc'ers record/listen? [Andrew Albright ] 12 Nov Austin, Texas - excel macro [Mike Farmer ] 9 Nov Re: Austin, Texas - Night Flight - [Mike Farmer ] 9 Nov RE: Austin, Texas - Night Flight - [Caitlin Coberly ] 9 Nov Austin, Texas - Night Flight - [Mike Farmer ] 5 Nov Re: Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 [Laura Erickson ] 5 Nov Re: Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 ["Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" ] 5 Nov RE: Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 ["Caitlin Coberly" ] 5 Nov Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 ["Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" ] 4 Nov Re: Long-eared Owl? [Jesse Ellis ] 4 Nov Long-eared Owl? [Benjamin Van Doren ] 2 Nov New listening station - Austin, Tx ["Mike Farmer" ] 27 Oct RE: FW: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia [Caitlin Coberly ] 27 Oct Re: FW: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia ["Laura C. Gooch" ] 27 Oct Re: FW: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia [Michael Lanzone ] 27 Oct FW: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia [Chris Tessaglia-Hymes ] 25 Oct Re: NFC protocol in eBird [Andy Martin ] 25 Oct Re: NFC protocol in eBird [laurent fournier ] 25 Oct Re: NFC protocol in eBird [David La Puma ] 25 Oct Re: Randon stuff from Colorado [Benjamin Van Doren ] 25 Oct Re: NFC protocol in eBird [Marshall Iliff ] 25 Oct RE: Randon stuff from Colorado [Ted Floyd ] 25 Oct Randon stuff from Colorado [Ted Floyd ] 25 Oct Re: NFC protocol in eBird [Kenneth Victor Rosenberg ] 24 Oct Re: NFC protocol in eBird [Andrew Farnsworth ] 24 Oct Re: NFC protocol in eBird [Erik Johnson ] 24 Oct NFC protocol in eBird [Marshall Iliff ] 24 Oct ADMIN: NFC-L Archives [Chris Tessaglia-Hymes ] 19 Oct Re: Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ [Chase Schiefer ] 19 Oct Re: Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ ["Allen T. Chartier" ] 19 Oct Audio File Converter [Chris Tessaglia-Hymes ] 19 Oct Re: Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ [David La Puma ] 19 Oct Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ [Chase Schiefer ] 14 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Ethan Duke ] 13 Oct Re: Beginning NFC recording in the Pacific Northwest help [Jay Withgott ] 13 Oct Beginning NFC recording in the Pacific Northwest help [Dan Gusset ] 13 Oct RE: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Christopher Heckscher ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground ["Michael O'Brien" ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Michael Lanzone ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Ethan Duke ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground ["Michael O'Brien" ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Jay Withgott ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Michael Lanzone ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Kenneth Victor Rosenberg ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground ["Bill Evans" ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Andrew Farnsworth ] 12 Oct RE: Spectrogram Catalog [Greg Budney ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Magnus Robb ] 12 Oct RE: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Christopher Heckscher ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Kenneth Victor Rosenberg ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Jesse Ellis ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Kenneth Victor Rosenberg ] 12 Oct Re:weBIRD [David La Puma ] 12 Oct Re: Spectrogram Catalog [Laurent Fournier ] 12 Oct Spectrogram Catalog [Christina Kisiel ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground ["Jeff Wells" ] 12 Oct Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Kenneth Victor Rosenberg ] 11 Oct weBIRD [David La Puma ] 11 Oct Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground [Jeff Wells ] 7 Oct Re: Night Flight - Battle Ground, WA [Jim Danzenbaker ] 7 Oct Re: Dickcissels - Etna, NY [Samuel Galick ] Subject: Austin, Tx - Part 2. semi-automating a night flight station using OLDBIRD software and Excel From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:32:06 -0600 So let’s go over the daily routine,,,,,run software Tseep and Thrush on last night’s recording file. Run GlassOFire to throw away the noise clips. Move the resulting Thrush and Tseep bird clips into their day folders. Run GlassOFire to sort the obvious birds from the day folders into the species folders. Rinse and repeat each day. After you record for a number of days, you now have a lot of little wav files in a bunch of folders. This is what computers are for....to take the drudgery out of counting and displaying this type of suff. So create an Excel worksheet with the Sorted Birds folder names, Unkown, SOSP, FISP, etc, across the top row of your spreadsheet. Then, down the left-most column put the day’s dates that you recorded in the YYYY-MM-DD format. So across the top, you have the bird species that correspond exactly to the folder names in the Sorted Birds folder. And down the left side of the spreadsheet, you have the date of each day you have recorded and these dates exactly correspond to the names on the day folders in Tseep and Thrush folders and to the date that you put on the front of each clip of the form YYYY-MM-DD. We presently use three macros to do the work in our Excel worksheet. The first is CountFilesIf. In the first cell under the column Unknown, use CountFilesIf to count the number of birds in the day folder named to the left of the cell. Copy the cell and paste it down through the column below. Now you will always know how many unknowns for each day that you have to work on or that you have given up on! In all the other cells of the worksheet, use CountFilesIf to find the count for the species at the top of each column for the days at the left. Get one cell right and all you have to do is copy and paste in one motion all the rest. Bam....you are done. No opening and closing folders to count bird clips to see what you have. Excel now just shows you what new birds came in last night in relationship with all the previous days. You can put in graphs and they will update automatically too. Later you can make another table in the worksheet to display the percentages that each bird made up of each night’s flight. Or to display the hourly count for each species or ....... Life is good. Go birding. -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re:Austin, Tx - Part 1. Semi-automating a night flight station using OLDBIRD software and Excel From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:28:17 -0600 This post is a combining of answers to questions that people have emailed me in the last couple of months. I believe it useful to put it all together. For the newbie, like me. The Oldbird software needs the following folders, C:\My Recordings and C:\temp\calls. So create these 3 folders on your PC. Now in the Calls folder, create folders, Tseeps, Thrushes, Sorted Birds, and Noise. In the Tseeps and Thrushes folders, create daily folders of the format YYYY-MM-DD for each night you record. In the Sorted Birds folder, create a folder for each of your bird categories, Unkown, SOSP, FISP, VESP, double-banded upsweep, etc. Start the list with Unknown because you will always have some birds left in the day folders that are tough to classify. And you do want to count them. Finally, on the destop, put a folder called Night. In Night, put a shortcut to the folders, My Recordings and Calls. Now you can get to everything quickly. There is a purpose behind doing the folders this way. It will allow your Excel program to do all the the tedious counting of birds in each folder and ultimately graphing the data. Now the fun begins. Take your first night’s recording, drag it into the folder My Recordings, or better yet have your recorder software put it there when it records, and rename it to Soundfile.wav. Run the software Tseep and Thrush. You now have lots of small files in the Calls folder of the form tseep xxx.wav and thrush xxx.wav, where xxx is the offset time relative to the start of the night’s recording. Run GlassOFire and throw away the noise clips into the Noise folder. Drag the clips that start with Thrush into the appropriate day folder in the Thrush folder. Then drag the clips with Tseep into it’s day folder. In a sense these day folders become the unknown category of birds that flew over your home last night. As you use GlassOFire to move clips from the day folders to the species folders, you will have fewer and fewer unknowns. But first, use a RenameFiles type program to rename the clips in the Tseeps day folder to the form YYYY-MM-DD 0900 Tseep xxx.xx.xx xx.wav. Do the same for the Thrushes day folders. Note that the YYYY-MM-DD is just the name of your day folder. And 0900 should be the initial start time that you started recording that night. With the proper RenameFiles program you can do this renaming in 15 sec or less. No matter how many clips you have. Open GlassOFire and use it to classify the clips in your day folders into the species folders that you defined above in the Sorted Birds folder. This is the guts of the hobby. You can spend a few minutes classifying the obvious species and a perhaps a lifetime arguing over the others. After you have your folders set up and you get used to the routine, you should spend less than 30 minutes a day sorting birds for each night’s recording. Sometimes a lot less. Again this is for obvious species. You may spend all day Saturday working on your unknowns. Ha. -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Austin, Tx - another macro From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:40:25 -0600 This excel macro counts the number of flight calls for a given hour of the night. There are two arguments to the function, folder name and hour of day. So for instance, if you have all your birds in individual folders, you can put a row in excel of the folder names and down the left column the hour of the day and voila have all the hourcounts for all the species in one table. The hour argument must be in the range such as 7 to 21 with 7 equals 7pm and 21 equals 7am. Or any range you want, of course. This macro works with files of this format....”2011-10-20 0815 Tseep_003.18.06_00.wav” Or really with any file with OLDBIRDS’s TSEEP and THRUSH time offet on the back. EXCEPT you need the start time that you started recording on the night the clip was saved. I put that after the date in all my files....that is the 0815 for 8:15pm that you see in the sentence above. With this format on all my files, I know the date, start time and offset time of any clip. But the macro searches the filename of the clip to find this start time. So you can do the same or modify the macro for a fixed start time or add another argument to the macro. That should be easy enough. Let me know if I can help. You could also use this macro to display the daily or monthly differences if any. I haven’t done that yet...I only have 3 months data....but I have calculated the hourcounts for each of my species and for all species together. Sort of interesting really. You can, of course, freely modify the macro to suit your needs. Since this listserv mentions limiting attachments, just email me if you want it. -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Austin, TX - Listening Stations - 24 Nov to 31 Dec From: Bill Evans <wrevans AT clarityconnect.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:35:09 -0500 Hey Mike, There is no such CD that you refer to. Would appreciate it you could refer to both authors or simply the Flight Call CD (at least until someone else publishes a flight call cd). Regarding Harris' Sparrow flight call, I suspect they would be in with your Song Sparrows if you have them. The sample size we had to work with for the CD was small, only a few individuals, so perhaps there is substantial overlap in frequency with Song -- the shape of the call certainly looks similar. Best, Bill E -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Austin, TX - Listening Stations - 24 Nov to 31 Dec From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 08:25:47 -0600 The great sparrow migration of Austin, TX, that occurred in numbers with the north winds of pacific cold fronts, finally ended the last week of November. Although each night that was not rainy still produced from 1 to 29 birds, there seems to be no relationship to wind direction, cold weather, or clear or cloudy skies. The birds recorded are mainly the sparrows easily found in the fields surrounding Austin....savannah, vesper, chipping, song, Lincoln, field, white-crowned, white-throated. With the slow nightly recording, we have visited the field to record the seep calls of all these species just mentioned. To a species, each produces the seep calls in broad daylight anytime of the day that have been recorded at night the last 3 months. Don’t get me wrong, they, of course, give lots of other notes but they regularly seep during the day and can be easily compared to the nightly records. Field sparrows will regularly give the Evans CD version and also a slightly shorter down slurred at-the-beginning seep that we have yet to see at night. Chipping sparrows are another case. A feeding flock will give those chip notes that we all are use to but if disturbed will fly into the nearest tree while giving the seep notes that we hear so often at night. BTW, just to be clear, all the notes above are from comparisons of the sonograms not from ear listening. (Sometimes I am confused on this listserv whether people are comparing sonograms or just judging using their ears alone.) We remain bumfuzzled by Harris Sparrow which are wintering here in abundance. As you all know, they give a wide range of sounds on the wintering grounds. We were excited to hear them seep regularly but the resultant sonogram is a dogleg down that should standout from all others but which we have yet to see at night. And the Evans CD seems unsure of their nocturnal calls, if any. Anyone have these figured out? LeConte’s which can be found in the Austin area were still being recorded at night through mid-december. We have yet to attempt day time field recording of LeConte’s for comparison to nightly sonograms. Nelson Sparrows? We have recorded 102 possible Nelson’s. Which are listed as accidental in Austin according to bird checklists. Exciting...if true.... -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Austin, TX - Listening Station - Getting GlassOFire to display tic marks From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:55:27 -0600 (File this under....Useful Kludge.....hey, I admit it) Have you ever wanted GlassOFire to display 50ms tic marks? Often times, I find myself having to display a clip in Raven Pro just to verify the length. The back and forth drives me nuts. The attached wav file when added to the sound clips that Tseep/Thrush produce will display 50 ms tic marks in GlassOFire. I use GlassOFire to throw away all the noise clips in the first pass and then another pass classifies the obvious bird clips into their respective folders. After that it’s nice to have the tic mark. You have to add this small file to each bird file that remains. This is a straight add of the two wav files. Or a mix in the vernacular of audiophiles. I use CoolEdit Pro. But it is pricey now that Adobe has bought it. Mixing is common in audio programs so maybe someone knows of a cheap one. But CoolEdit also has batch processing, so I can add the tic file to 100’s of bird clips quickly without much bother. It will put the modified clips into a new folder so that the originals are untouched. So that is nice to have. GlassOFire will display 63 sonograms on a 21 to 23 inch monitor. I have two such monitors so that the left one can display the untouched bird clips that I want to classify and the right one can show the same clips with the tic marks. That’s two GlassOFire programs running on windows 7 at the same time. It works great. But this remains a kludge. It is handy and is only used for looking closer at sonograms that you still think are classifiable. Or you can even look at all your, say, already classified LeConte’s to make sure some aren’t really short Nelson’s. It resurrects GlassOFire for one last handy pass through. This somehow needs to be incorporated into GlassOFire so that it’s automatic. This method of adding tic marks would be so easy....just add the two wav files before display.....that my heart aches. But until then...... -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Oldbird mic for sale From: Dave Slager <dave.slager AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:11:14 -0500 Hi all, I am looking to part with my home-built flowerpot-style Oldbird mic . It works fine and has a Knowles element and about a 50-foot unbalanced output cord ending in a 1/4" phone plug. I'm willing to part with it for approximately the cost of parts. This could be good for you if you're interested in getting started with home recording but don't have the time or tools to assemble one. I'd hate to see it lay around in disuse so If I can't sell it within a couple weeks, I'm willing to donate it to a good home. Please reply privately. Thanks, Dave Slager -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Austin, TX - Night Flight - 16 to 30 Nov From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:22:05 -0600 Two pacific cold fronts followed by a night or two of north winds again produced over 100 bird calls on each of those nights. Between the fronts, south winds of only 5 mph reduced bird calls to less than 50 for each night and often much less. This more or less continued the pattern of the first two weeks of November. This pattern may be changing. A pacific front on the night of 28th Nov produced good north winds on the 28th and 29th but bird call counts were only 27 and 9, respectively. The latter is the lowest count of any night since I started on Sept 29th. Our sparrow migration may finally be ending here in central Texas. At least as measured by a lone (and lonely) station here in Austin, Texas. Well, it had to happen sometime. But it costs nothing to leave the mic on. So, I wonder what surprises cold winter nights will bring? And spring is soon enough. -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Unknown From: bob mcguire <bmcguire AT clarityconnect.com> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:28:53 -0500 Bill, I concur with Chris. BirdTunes has a "scape alarm call" for Wilson's Snipe with the frequency and duration quite similar. Bob McGuire On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Bill Evans wrote: > All: > > This call was recorded last night at 11:40PM near Alfred, NY. Any > ideas on species? > > ~Bill E > > > > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: RE: Unknown From: Chris Tessaglia-Hymes <cth4 AT cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 15:48:13 -0500 Bill, This has a similar quality and duration to that of the Wilson's Snipe grating alarm call. Other than that, perhaps another shorebird species? Thoughts? Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp From: bounce-38772326-9327213 AT list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-38772326-9327213 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Evans Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 2:55 PM To: NFC-L AT cornell.edu Subject: [nfc-l] Unknown All: This call was recorded last night at 11:40PM near Alfred, NY. Any ideas on species? ~Bill E -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird ! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Unknown From: Bill Evans <wrevans AT clarityconnect.com> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:55:03 -0500 All: This call was recorded last night at 11:40PM near Alfred, NY. Any ideas on species? ~Bill E -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Wanted: Raw Western Night Flight Recordings From: Dan Gusset <dgusset AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:17:19 -0800 Greetings, I am an undergraduate student at The Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. I am giving a presentation to a class on the methods of conducting nocturnal flight call surveys. I built an Old Bird 21c microphone this fall, but unfortunately did not finish until after Passerine migration ended. I am looking for un-edited recordings from the western United States which I can use flight call detection software on to analyze as a demonstration. Would someone be willing to share a couple of nights of recordings with me? Thank you very much! Dan Gusset -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Austin, TX - a newbie's point of view From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:01:04 -0600 When you first set up a listening station, you are flooded with 100’s if not 1000’s of sonograms. Fortunately, the excellent Evans and O’Brien CD is there to help you sort it all out. Next, you search Google images for call sonograms. This turns up some, but not enough, excellent blog/web sites. Some people have done some great work in this field and they have been gracious enough to share it with us. Soon you end up with boxes filling up with sonograms.....boxes and boxes....boxes in the form of folders on your pc filled with sonograms that you deem are similar. Some of these boxes are easily labeled. White-Crowned Sparrow label goes on one box. But other boxes are filled with similar looking sonograms that probably are the same species but don’t quite match up with the CD. This is about the time that the newbie realizes that sonograms are funny things. The same call can look different in different programs. Take the CD. The sonograms shown are fabulous but because they are displayed with such short time windows they sometimes don’t really look like they do in Raven Pro, Syrinx, or GlassOFire. But if you take the actual wav files from the the CD and cut them down to 400 ms or so and display them in say GlassOFire, then suddenly you realize that one of your boxes of unknown sonograms looks an awfully lot like Clay-colored Sparrow. Not only that, but many of your weakly recorded sonograms suddenly seem to fall in to one of your boxes, just depends how far you want to push it. It’s a consequence of being able to display 60 or so sonograms on a big monitor with GlassOFire. They just seem so much easier to see the relationships that are impossible to see one at a time. Rather rapidly, over a month, your boxes become more and more putatively labeled with the species names. Are they all correct? You don’t know. It’s putative. But soon you realize there’s another way. Somehow your boxes must be related to the known species that occur in your area described by your local Audubon or bird society checklist. These groups have spent 1000’s of hours over many years in monthly meetings of it’s bird records committee. In the changing seasonal bar charts of the checklist are the average migration times for each species. (It’s exciting seeing the actual migration and it’s timing on your recordings not shown on the checklists....but you all know that) All this tends to limit the number of possibilities and helps in labeling your boxes. To me, this brings up exciting possiblities, Could I place a station a couple of counties east of me and record 100’s of Nelson’s Sparrows migrating from Canada directly to the Texas coast? And in so doing fill a new box that could be labeled Nelson’s showing all the forms of the sonogram produced by male and female and old and young Nelsons? And yet not really ever see a Nelson’s. Just by the changing of the boxes from one station to another can information be learned as to species? This all is in pursuit of the one thing that every newbie nocturnal flight recorder soon realizes he needs. Lots and lots of representative sonograms to compare against. In the format that looks like his detector produces and in a common display as in GlassOFire. This hobby is in great need of these sonograms. To this point, OLDBIRD displaying his ALFRED data on their website is a great start. I just wish he had more sparrows! -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Austin, TX - Night Flight - 1 to 15 Nov From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:01:38 -0600 So far this month, the number of birds calling nightly has declined significantly. Most nights with south winds produce less than 30 birds. Three pacific fronts with north winds push that total up to 100 to 200 birds for each night that north winds persist. So far, October fronts have produced 5 to 10 times the number of calls each night than November. Sparrows...Sparrows...Sparrows dominate the species....with Chipping and White-crowned matching Savannah numbers. And Song/Fox and Vesper each making up 10 to 20% of total calls each night. Calls which I consider to be LeConte’s number less than 5 each night. Oddly, Field Sparrows are sporadic with rarely 2 a night. I have yet to see what I think would be a Harris Sparrow sonogram although they should be migrating through Austin the the middle of November. We have a new remote Austin station placed in the middle of a 7,000 acre conservation area. Away from lights and roads and surrounded by acres of sparrow habitat. ( Although, it’s amazing how well our system works in the middle of Austin.) Hey people! It sure seems lonely being a night flighter in Texas. Anybody out there want to share sonograms? ....Houston? Corpus? .....hello? -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: How late into the fall do New York/Mid-Atlantic nfc'ers record/listen? From: Andy Martin <apmartin2 AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:59:12 -0500 Andrew, I don't have any graphical info, but went back and looked at latest fall recording I ever made (12/3/06). 7 hrs of recording produced just 2 flight calls, a Golden-crowned Kinglet and a Barn Owl. Andy Martin Gaithersburg, MD On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Andrew Albright wrote: > I've still been recording 6-8 hours a night and then listening* about > 1-2 hours every day. It's down to about 3-6 calls per hour. The > first part of November has been warm here, so that might have slowed > things down some. > > How long into fall migration do people record/listen? I don't suppose > anyone has any good graph showing the distribution of total calls per > min/hour spread out from August - November that's published? > > Sincerely, > Andrew > > > *I record at night and then during the day at work, I listen to the > recordings I made. > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: How late into the fall do New York/Mid-Atlantic nfc'ers record/listen? From: Andrew Albright <andrew.albright AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:26:02 -0500 I've still been recording 6-8 hours a night and then listening* about 1-2 hours every day. It's down to about 3-6 calls per hour. The first part of November has been warm here, so that might have slowed things down some. How long into fall migration do people record/listen? I don't suppose anyone has any good graph showing the distribution of total calls per min/hour spread out from August - November that's published? Sincerely, Andrew *I record at night and then during the day at work, I listen to the recordings I made. -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Austin, Texas - excel macro From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:44:49 -0600 I have an excel macro that counts the number of calls that are within one minute of each other. Which I can send to those who want it. There are three arguments to the function, folder name, number of seconds, file name filter of format yyyy-mm-dd. This macro works with files of this format....”2011-10-20 0945 Tseep_003.18.06_00.wav” Or really with any file with the date on the front and with OLDBIRDS’s TSEEP and THRUSH format of the time offet on the back. You can, of course, freely modify it to suit your needs. With this and the previous spreadsheet that I discussed, I now have a semi-automated night call station.....all that remains, of course, is the classifying of the actual sonograms as to species. Someday......someday..... -Mike Farmer equipment Mic- Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird Tseep, Thrush, GlassOFire and Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Austin, Texas - Night Flight - From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 12:09:57 -0600 Yes, I use a RenameFiles v2.41 program that I got off the net a few years back. Works great. It was a free download at the time. It or something like it must still be out there. Since I am using OLDBIRD software, my birds are at c:\temp\calls\Sorted Birds With the initial GlassOFire sorting going to c"':\temp\calls\tseep. Here I put it in a folder with the day name format like 2011-11-08. I use renamefiles to put the folder name on the front of all the days bird clips, followed by the start time.....so my file names look like this 2011-11-08 1000 tseep etc. 1000 means started at 10 pm at night. That way with tseep’s offset times, I can tell the exact time of any clip. I also made an excel spread sheet that counts the birds in each folder for each day and fills out the spread sheet and made the plot that I attached. I got tired of looking in all the folders to see how many of each species I had. You would either have to use my file structure or modify the spread sheet.....wouldn’t be hard though. The spread sheet contains a couple of macros that counts the number of files in the folders. I can send this to you or anyone who wants to use it as a basis for their system. What we need now is a modification of the spread sheet to count how many birds are within a minute of each other. I am trying to work on that so that one more tedious task dies a timely death. -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro From: Caitlin Coberly Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:49 AM To: 'Mike Farmer' ; 'NFC-L' Subject: RE: [nfc-l] Austin, Texas - Night Flight - Hi Mike—I haven’t yet found a simple easy way to tag files and change their names (I’m using glassofire) so I can sort and count them using an automated method. Have you done this, or are you doing all your compilations by hand? Best, Caitlin From: bounce-38249468-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-38249468-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Farmer Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:42 AM To: NFC-L Subject: [nfc-l] Austin, Texas - Night Flight - Two recent pacific fronts one on Nov 3 and one last night, Nov 8, have not produced the number of birds that the 4 fronts in October did. Instead of 900+ birds after each front, we are now getting about 200. Nevertheless, the percentage for each species continues to change thru the weeks now as predicted by the Travis county annotated checklist. Attached is a graphic representation of the last 5 weeks of night flight over Austin, Texas. The amount of time spent to get to this point is significant. But after learning the common sonograms.....and as a newbie....I now only spend about 30 minutes a day in categorizing the data to the known sonograms. As can be seen from the graph, there are still many unknowns to be worked on. As such this graph only represents a tentative categorizing of the night flight so far and is,,,,as they say....subject to change without notice. IAgain, I hope that others will see just how easy it is to get started in this fascinating hobby, scientific endeavor, and/or amusing pastime. It is very easy and not too time consuming to set up a system to count the number of migrants each night. A little more time and you can get very good and fast at separating out and counting the birds with well known and unique sonograms. After that, so far I have had up to 50% unknowns for any night. To me, this is a hobby with a nice mix of instant gratification and probably a lifetime of new discoveries. -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: RE: Austin, Texas - Night Flight - From: Caitlin Coberly <prairie AT dswebnet.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 08:49:29 -0800 Hi Mike-I haven't yet found a simple easy way to tag files and change their names (I'm using glassofire) so I can sort and count them using an automated method. Have you done this, or are you doing all your compilations by hand? Best, Caitlin From: bounce-38249468-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-38249468-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Farmer Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:42 AM To: NFC-L Subject: [nfc-l] Austin, Texas - Night Flight - Two recent pacific fronts one on Nov 3 and one last night, Nov 8, have not produced the number of birds that the 4 fronts in October did. Instead of 900+ birds after each front, we are now getting about 200. Nevertheless, the percentage for each species continues to change thru the weeks now as predicted by the Travis county annotated checklist. Attached is a graphic representation of the last 5 weeks of night flight over Austin, Texas. The amount of time spent to get to this point is significant. But after learning the common sonograms.....and as a newbie....I now only spend about 30 minutes a day in categorizing the data to the known sonograms. As can be seen from the graph, there are still many unknowns to be worked on. As such this graph only represents a tentative categorizing of the night flight so far and is,,,,as they say....subject to change without notice. IAgain, I hope that others will see just how easy it is to get started in this fascinating hobby, scientific endeavor, and/or amusing pastime. It is very easy and not too time consuming to set up a system to count the number of migrants each night. A little more time and you can get very good and fast at separating out and counting the birds with well known and unique sonograms. After that, so far I have had up to 50% unknowns for any night. To me, this is a hobby with a nice mix of instant gratification and probably a lifetime of new discoveries. -Mike Farmer equipment Mic - Oldbird 21c Software - Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird ! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Austin, Texas - Night Flight - From: Mike Farmer <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 10:41:52 -0600 Two recent pacific fronts one on Nov 3 and one last night, Nov 8, have not produced the number of birds that the 4 fronts in October did. Instead of 900+ birds after each front, we are now getting about 200. Nevertheless, the percentage for each species continues to change thru the weeks now as predicted by the Travis county annotated checklist. Attached is a graphic representation of the last 5 weeks of night flight over Austin, Texas. The amount of time spent to get to this point is significant. But after learning the common sonograms.....and as a newbie....I now only spend about 30 minutes a day in categorizing the data to the known sonograms. As can be seen from the graph, there are still many unknowns to be worked on. As such this graph only represents a tentative categorizing of the night flight so far and is,,,,as they say....subject to change without notice. IAgain, I hope that others will see just how easy it is to get started in this fascinating hobby, scientific endeavor, and/or amusing pastime. It is very easy and not too time consuming to set up a system to count the number of migrants each night. A little more time and you can get very good and fast at separating out and counting the birds with well known and unique sonograms. After that, so far I have had up to 50% unknowns for any night. To me, this is a hobby with a nice mix of instant gratification and probably a lifetime of new discoveries. -Mike Farmer equipment Mic – Oldbird 21c Software – Oldbird tseep, thrush, GlassOFire, Raven Pro -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 From: Laura Erickson <lle24 AT cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:26:06 -0500 I live in northern Minnesota, and we see major movements of Snow Buntings along Hawk Ridge and in northern Wisconsin near the Lake Superior shore beginning in October. Best, Laura Erickson -- -- Laura Erickson For the love, understanding, and protection of birds There is symbolic as well as actual beauty in the migration of birds. There is something infinitely healing in the repeated refrains of nature--the assurance that dawn comes after night, and spring after the winter.             --Rachel Carson Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 From: "Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" <cth4 AT cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:58:44 +0000 We usually get ones and twos in November; especially along the lake shores. Sincerely, Chris T-H Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2011, at 12:33, "Caitlin Coberly" > wrote: Snow bunting? Did you guys get a good cold spell, or is this more usual in NY than I thought? In Minnesota, the Snow Buntings and Mourning doves traded places at 10’F, with snow buntings arriving en masse, and the doves leaving. From: bounce-38234332-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-38234332-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:03 AM To: NFC-L Subject: [nfc-l] Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 Last night, I decided to turn on the recorder and acquire sounds of any flight activity overnight from about 11pm to dawn. It was relatively quiet, but I did count a good 15 clear American Tree Sparrow flight notes throughout the night, as well as at least three Dark-eyed Juncos. At 7:00am sharp, a single Snow Bunting flew over, giving both a single "rattle" call and several "Ptheew" calls. The migration continues! Good night listening! Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: RE: Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 From: "Caitlin Coberly" <prairie AT dswebnet.com> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 09:33:32 -0700 Snow bunting? Did you guys get a good cold spell, or is this more usual in NY than I thought? In Minnesota, the Snow Buntings and Mourning doves traded places at 10'F, with snow buntings arriving en masse, and the doves leaving. From: bounce-38234332-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-38234332-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:03 AM To: NFC-L Subject: [nfc-l] Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 Last night, I decided to turn on the recorder and acquire sounds of any flight activity overnight from about 11pm to dawn. It was relatively quiet, but I did count a good 15 clear American Tree Sparrow flight notes throughout the night, as well as at least three Dark-eyed Juncos. At 7:00am sharp, a single Snow Bunting flew over, giving both a single "rattle" call and several "Ptheew" calls. The migration continues! Good night listening! Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird ! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Etna, NY - Night Flight - 4 to 5 November 2011 From: "Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" <cth4 AT cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:03:20 +0000 Last night, I decided to turn on the recorder and acquire sounds of any flight activity overnight from about 11pm to dawn. It was relatively quiet, but I did count a good 15 clear American Tree Sparrow flight notes throughout the night, as well as at least three Dark-eyed Juncos. At 7:00am sharp, a single Snow Bunting flew over, giving both a single "rattle" call and several "Ptheew" calls. The migration continues! Good night listening! Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Long-eared Owl? From: Jesse Ellis <calocitta8 AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:48:03 -0500 Ben- Intriguing. I don't know if you'll ever get a definitive answer, of course, but despite a lot of experience with avians, I'm not convinced that's not a mammal. I don't think it's a cat, but a deer is an intriguing possibility. I recorded a deer in Santa Rosa NP in Costa Rica getting chomped by a coyote, and when that thing hollered, it sounded a lot like a goat, a very bleating sound. This is reminiscent of that, similar goat-like quality? I haven't heard many other deer vocalize, but this makes me think of that. Tough call. I don't have enough experience with long-eared owl to compare, though. Jesse Ellis Madison, WI On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Benjamin Van Doren wrote: > Hi all, > > I've attached an audio file of an interesting recording captured by a > flight call mic last August from a suburban wildlife preserve (Marshlands > Conservancy) in Rye, NY. The call sequence is reminiscent of Long-eared > Owl, but the various sounds produced in the recording vary considerably in > pitch, rhythm and apparent loudness. The couple people whom I have talked > to have differed in their opinions on the identity of the caller, with one > supporting Long-eared and the other suggesting mammalian identity, perhaps > a feral cat or white-tailed deer (of which there are large numbers in that > area). > > I was reminded of this recording when I heard a similar LEOW-like call > sequence at a Saw-whet Owl banding station last week. I was unable to > record any of those calls, though they did sound very much like the > Long-eared recordings I have listened to (less variable than the attached > recording). I don't have extensive experience with calling Long-eareds so > I'm not sure how often they vocalize in late summer/fall/winter and whether > their vocalizations become more variable after the breeding season. > > Any information on their behavior in this regard and any comments on the > recording would be appreciated. > > Sincerely, > > Benjamin Van Doren > White Plains, NY > > My first attempt to send this message bounced because of the attachment > size, so I've compressed it to MP3 format. Feel free to email me if you > would like the original higher-quality WAV file. > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- Jesse Ellis Post-doctoral Researcher Dept. of Zoology University of Wisconsin - Madison Madison, Dane Co, WI -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Long-eared Owl? From: Benjamin Van Doren <bmvandoren AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:44:01 -0400 Hi all, I've attached an audio file of an interesting recording captured by a flight call mic last August from a suburban wildlife preserve (Marshlands Conservancy) in Rye, NY. The call sequence is reminiscent of Long-eared Owl, but the various sounds produced in the recording vary considerably in pitch, rhythm and apparent loudness. The couple people whom I have talked to have differed in their opinions on the identity of the caller, with one supporting Long-eared and the other suggesting mammalian identity, perhaps a feral cat or white-tailed deer (of which there are large numbers in that area). I was reminded of this recording when I heard a similar LEOW-like call sequence at a Saw-whet Owl banding station last week. I was unable to record any of those calls, though they did sound very much like the Long-eared recordings I have listened to (less variable than the attached recording). I don't have extensive experience with calling Long-eareds so I'm not sure how often they vocalize in late summer/fall/winter and whether their vocalizations become more variable after the breeding season. Any information on their behavior in this regard and any comments on the recording would be appreciated. Sincerely, Benjamin Van Doren White Plains, NY My first attempt to send this message bounced because of the attachment size, so I've compressed it to MP3 format. Feel free to email me if you would like the original higher-quality WAV file. -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: New listening station - Austin, Tx From: "Mike Farmer" <ruthsland AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:03:14 -0500 Hi all, I recently obtained Oldbird’s 21c directional microphone & preamp. Downloaded Oldbird’s Tseep, Thrush, and GlassOFire software and have been recording birds for 8 to 12 hours each night for the last month. This was a painless way of getting started and I highly recommend this system. I record at my home in one of the inner city neighborhoods. The fact of being in the city has not hindered recording so far. In the month of October, Austin experienced 4 pacific fronts. All 4 fronts produced big flights for the two nights following each front with at least 900 birds and a high of 1700 birds each night. Between fronts with winds from the south, birds generally numbered less than 100. The month of October is definitely sparrow month in Austin. For the first half of October, Grasshopper Sparrows made up 30 to 50% of the flights. Savannahs 10 to 20%. Clay-coloreds 4 to 20%. Lincoln less than 10%. Vesper 5% or so. Then the second half of October saw Grasshoppers decline, Savannahs increase, Clay-coloreds all but disappear, and Chipping Sparrows come in big at 15% of all flights. Vespers and White-crowneds seem to be increasing too. The double-banded upsweep category has varied from 5 to 20% each day of the month. For Austin this time of year, these should represent Orange-crowned/Nashville type. Austin is poor in thrushes during the fall migration and this is represented in my data by only having Hermit Thrushes recorded so far. As all of you know, there are many challenges interpreting the data. Do Le Conte’s and Nelson’s Sparrows exist in my data? How do I tell for sure? Al of this compares nicely with Travis Audubon’s annotated checklist of the Austin, Texas region. We have plans for at least 2 other Austin area stations starting next spring. I post this to hopefully show other newbies just how easy it can be to get started in nocturnal migration recording. -Mike Farmer -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: RE: FW: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia From: Caitlin Coberly <prairie AT dswebnet.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:20:47 -0700 We've known for quite a while that lighted objects attract birds during inclement weather. Large, lighted, objects such as skyscrapers and lighthouses kill birds during inclement weather. Normally, turbines kill a few birds (about 2.8birds/MW/YR). But, turbines are very tall (commercial turbines are mostly about 450 ft., which is the size of a 45 story building). 500 birds, while a large number, is within the known impacts for tall, lighted, stationary objects. Lighting turbines, or nearby objects, seems like a really bad idea. We've known that, and advised against it, for a few years. I recommend turning off the lights and using energy efficient appliances myself. Well, it's either that or more coal fired and gas fired power plants, with around 3 cents per KW hour in health impacts. Just my inflation adjusted 2 cents.... ~Caitlin From: bounce-38204390-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-38204390-10103185 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Laura C. Gooch Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:57 PM To: NFC-L AT cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nfc-l] FW: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia Here's a link to a more complete account of what happened: http://jimmccormac.blogspot.com/2011/10/blackpoll-warbler-kill-at-wind-farm. html It seems that it wasn't actually the turbines that killed the birds, but the fact that lights at a substation attracted so many birds at this location suggests that the turbines will have their day. Laura Gooch On 10/27/2011 3:50 PM, Michael Lanzone wrote: This was a human error we were told, see email snippet below- "bird kill in Barbour/Randolph Counties at Laurel Mt. Wind facility. You probably already heard. 500 some birds. Human error. Person left lights on at substation. Foggy night. Rich said a press release will be issued within the month." Mike Michael Lanzone mlanzone AT gmail.com On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes wrote: Does anyone know anything about this Warbler kill in West Virginia? Could this have been prevented with a NFC detection system or was it simply the fact that structures are there (moving or not)? Was it aviation lighting-type that contributed (strobe/non-strobe/red/white, etc.)? Would appreciate any input (on-list is okay). Thanks! Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Chris Tessaglia-Hymes Listowner, NFC-L Ithaca, New York cth4 AT cornell.edu NFC-L - Archives NFC-L - Welcome and Basics NFC-L - Rules and Information NFC-L - Subscribe, Configuration and Leave From: geneseebirds-l-bounces AT geneseo.edu [mailto:geneseebirds-l-bounces AT geneseo.edu] On Behalf Of Laura Kammermeier Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:32 PM To: GENESEEBIRDS-L Subject: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia The abundant Blackpoll Warblers migrating o'er the lakefront this year made big news both here and in other regions. Betsy Brooks reported "It has been a record-breaking Blackpoll Warbler season at BBBO ... today we banded another 21, bringing our total this fall to an amazing 705. The previous high for fall had been 383 banded in 2008. The numbers appeared to be slowing down around Oct 4 but began building again on Friday Oct 7." (listerv, Oct. 10th). Tragically, it seems a massive kill of these warbler happened at a wind farm in West Virginia. While I have not vetted this kill information from primary sources, this is copied by Kimberly Kaufman, exec. director of Black Swamp Bird Observatory on her Facebook wall, and was indeed on the PA listserv. How senseless. Birders need to be on top of the wind farm issue and help them get properly sited away from major migration corridors. My heart goes out the banders who may have held some of these warblers in their hands and wished them well on their migration. Laura Kammermeier Honeoye Falls A recent post to the PA Birds ListServ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Blackpoll Warblers killed in West Virginia Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:08:00 -0400A massive kill at AES Laurel Mtn wind project in West Virginia 2 weeks ago: 500 - 600 migrating blackpoll warblers were killed by wind turbines. This was confirmed by Craig Stihler of DNR in Elkins, WV (304-###-0245) Blackpoll warblers are endangered in PA - we have the southern-most breeding population. I hope we did not lose our nesting blackpoll warblers in this tragic incident. From the PGC: "Blackpoll warblers (Dendroica striata) are very rare and locally distributed nesting birds in Pennsylvania. Confirmed nesting has been confined to the Dutch Mountain wetlands in State Game Lands 57 of western Wyoming County. These boreal conifer wetlands are part of the Important Bird Area #48. There have been other reports of territorial blackpoll warblers elsewhere in northern Pennsylvania, but no nesting confirmed." This tragic incident is further proof that our mountains should not be developed for industrial wind energy. Laura JacksonEverettBedford County Killdeer [Kermit Henning ] --> http://digest.sialia.com/?rm=message;id=317262 -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird ! -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird ! -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird ! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: FW: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia From: "Laura C. Gooch" <lgooch AT alum.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:57:22 -0400 Here's a link to a more complete account of what happened: http://jimmccormac.blogspot.com/2011/10/blackpoll-warbler-kill-at-wind-farm.html It seems that it wasn't actually the turbines that killed the birds, but the fact that lights at a substation attracted so many birds at this location suggests that the turbines will have their day. Laura Gooch On 10/27/2011 3:50 PM, Michael Lanzone wrote: > This was a human error we were told, see email snippet below- > > > "bird kill in Barbour/Randolph Counties at Laurel Mt. Wind facility. > You probably already heard. > 500 some birds. Human error. Person left lights on at substation. > Foggy night. > Rich said a press release will be issued within the month." > > > Mike > > > Michael Lanzone > mlanzone AT gmail.com > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes > > wrote: > > Does anyone know anything about this Warbler kill in West > Virginia? Could this have been prevented with a NFC detection > system or was it simply the fact that structures are there (moving > or not)? Was it aviation lighting-type that contributed > (strobe/non-strobe/red/white, etc.)? > > Would appreciate any input (on-list is okay). > > Thanks! > > > Sincerely, > Chris T-H > > -- > > Chris Tessaglia-Hymes > > Listowner, NFC-L > > Ithaca, New York > > cth4 AT cornell.edu > > NFC-L – Archives > > > NFC-L – Welcome and Basics > > > NFC-L – Rules and Information > > > NFC-L – Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > > > *From:*geneseebirds-l-bounces AT geneseo.edu > > [mailto:geneseebirds-l-bounces AT geneseo.edu > ] *On Behalf Of *Laura > Kammermeier > *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:32 PM > *To:* GENESEEBIRDS-L > *Subject:* [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll > Warbler kill in West Virginia > > > The abundant Blackpoll Warblers migrating o'er the lakefront this > year made big news both here and in other regions. Betsy Brooks > reported "It has been a record-breaking Blackpoll Warbler season > at BBBO ... today we banded another 21, bringing our total this > fall to an amazing 705. The previous high for fall had been 383 > banded in 2008. The numbers appeared to be slowing down around Oct > 4 but began building again on Friday Oct 7." (listerv, Oct. 10th). > > Tragically, it seems a massive kill of these warbler happened at a > wind farm in West Virginia. > > While I have not vetted this kill information from primary > sources, this is copied by Kimberly Kaufman, exec. director of > Black Swamp Bird Observatory on her Facebook wall, and was indeed > on the PA listserv. > > How senseless. Birders need to be on top of the wind farm issue > and help them get properly sited away from major migration corridors. > > My heart goes out the banders who may have held some of these > warblers in their hands and wished them well on their migration. > > Laura Kammermeier > > Honeoye Falls > > ** > > A recent post to the PA Birds ListServ. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Blackpoll Warblers killed in West Virginia > > > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:08:00 -0400A massive kill at AES Laurel > Mtn wind project in West Virginia 2 weeks ago: 500 - 600 migrating > blackpoll warblers were killed by wind turbines. This was > confirmed by Craig Stihler of DNR in Elkins, WV (304-###-0245) > Blackpoll warblers are endangered in PA - we have the > southern-most breeding population. I hope we did not lose our > nesting blackpoll warblers in this tragic incident. From the PGC: > "Blackpoll warblers (Dendroica striata) are very rare and locally > distributed nesting birds in Pennsylvania. Confirmed nesting has > been confined to the Dutch Mountain wetlands in State Game Lands > 57 of western Wyoming County. These boreal conifer wetlands are > part of the Important Bird Area #48. There have been other reports > of territorial blackpoll warblers elsewhere in northern > Pennsylvania, but no nesting confirmed." > > This tragic incident is further proof that our mountains should > not be developed for industrial wind energy. Laura > JacksonEverettBedford County Killdeer [Kermit Henning ] > > --> > > http://digest.sialia.com/?rm=message;id=317262 > > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > > > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: FW: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia From: Michael Lanzone <mlanzone AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:50:48 -0400 This was a human error we were told, see email snippet below- "bird kill in Barbour/Randolph Counties at Laurel Mt. Wind facility. You probably already heard. 500 some birds. Human error. Person left lights on at substation. Foggy night. Rich said a press release will be issued within the month." Mike Michael Lanzone mlanzone AT gmail.com On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes wrote: > Does anyone know anything about this Warbler kill in West Virginia? Could > this have been prevented with a NFC detection system or was it simply the > fact that structures are there (moving or not)? Was it aviation > lighting-type that contributed (strobe/non-strobe/red/white, etc.)?**** > > ** ** > > Would appreciate any input (on-list is okay).**** > > ** ** > > Thanks!**** > > > Sincerely, > Chris T-H**** > > ** ** > > --**** > > Chris Tessaglia-Hymes**** > > Listowner, NFC-L**** > > Ithaca, New York**** > > cth4 AT cornell.edu**** > > NFC-L – Archives > **** > > NFC-L – Welcome and Basics ** > ** > > NFC-L – Rules and Information * > *** > > NFC-L – Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* geneseebirds-l-bounces AT geneseo.edu [mailto: > geneseebirds-l-bounces AT geneseo.edu] *On Behalf Of *Laura Kammermeier > *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:32 PM > *To:* GENESEEBIRDS-L > *Subject:* [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill > in West Virginia**** > > ** ** > > > The abundant Blackpoll Warblers migrating o'er the lakefront this year made > big news both here and in other regions. Betsy Brooks reported "It has been > a record-breaking Blackpoll Warbler season at BBBO ... today we banded > another 21, bringing our total this fall to an amazing 705. The previous > high for fall had been 383 banded in 2008. The numbers appeared to be > slowing down around Oct 4 but began building again on Friday Oct 7." > (listerv, Oct. 10th).**** > > ** ** > > Tragically, it seems a massive kill of these warbler happened at a wind > farm in West Virginia. **** > > ** ** > > While I have not vetted this kill information from primary sources, this is > copied by Kimberly Kaufman, exec. director of Black Swamp Bird Observatory > on her Facebook wall, and was indeed on the PA listserv.**** > > ** ** > > How senseless. Birders need to be on top of the wind farm issue and help > them get properly sited away from major migration corridors.**** > > ** ** > > My heart goes out the banders who may have held some of these warblers in > their hands and wished them well on their migration.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Laura Kammermeier**** > > Honeoye Falls**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > * * > > A recent post to the PA Birds ListServ. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > **** > > Blackpoll Warblers killed in West Virginia **** > > > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:08:00 -0400A massive kill at AES Laurel Mtn wind > project in West Virginia 2 weeks ago: 500 - 600 migrating blackpoll warblers > were killed by wind turbines. This was confirmed by Craig Stihler of DNR > in Elkins, WV (304-###-0245) Blackpoll warblers are endangered in PA - we > have the southern-most breeding population. I hope we did not lose our > nesting blackpoll warblers in this tragic incident. From the PGC: "Blackpoll > warblers (Dendroica striata) are very rare and locally distributed nesting > birds in Pennsylvania. Confirmed nesting has been confined to the Dutch > Mountain wetlands in State Game Lands 57 of western Wyoming County. These > boreal conifer wetlands are part of the Important Bird Area #48. There have > been other reports of territorial blackpoll warblers elsewhere in northern > Pennsylvania, but no nesting confirmed." **** > > This tragic incident is further proof that our mountains should not be > developed for industrial wind energy. Laura JacksonEverettBedford County > Killdeer [Kermit Henning ] **** > > --> **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > http://digest.sialia.com/?rm=message;id=317262**** > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: FW: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia From: Chris Tessaglia-Hymes <cth4 AT cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:43:44 -0400 Does anyone know anything about this Warbler kill in West Virginia? Could this have been prevented with a NFC detection system or was it simply the fact that structures are there (moving or not)? Was it aviation lighting-type that contributed (strobe/non-strobe/red/white, etc.)? Would appreciate any input (on-list is okay). Thanks! Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Chris Tessaglia-Hymes Listowner, NFC-L Ithaca, New York cth4 AT cornell.edu NFC-L - Archives NFC-L - Welcome and Basics NFC-L - Rules and Information NFC-L - Subscribe, Configuration and Leave From: geneseebirds-l-bounces AT geneseo.edu [mailto:geneseebirds-l-bounces AT geneseo.edu] On Behalf Of Laura Kammermeier Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:32 PM To: GENESEEBIRDS-L Subject: [GeneseeBirds-L] News of note: massive Blackpoll Warbler kill in West Virginia The abundant Blackpoll Warblers migrating o'er the lakefront this year made big news both here and in other regions. Betsy Brooks reported "It has been a record-breaking Blackpoll Warbler season at BBBO ... today we banded another 21, bringing our total this fall to an amazing 705. The previous high for fall had been 383 banded in 2008. The numbers appeared to be slowing down around Oct 4 but began building again on Friday Oct 7." (listerv, Oct. 10th). Tragically, it seems a massive kill of these warbler happened at a wind farm in West Virginia. While I have not vetted this kill information from primary sources, this is copied by Kimberly Kaufman, exec. director of Black Swamp Bird Observatory on her Facebook wall, and was indeed on the PA listserv. How senseless. Birders need to be on top of the wind farm issue and help them get properly sited away from major migration corridors. My heart goes out the banders who may have held some of these warblers in their hands and wished them well on their migration. Laura Kammermeier Honeoye Falls A recent post to the PA Birds ListServ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Blackpoll Warblers killed in West Virginia Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:08:00 -0400A massive kill at AES Laurel Mtn wind project in West Virginia 2 weeks ago: 500 - 600 migrating blackpoll warblers were killed by wind turbines. This was confirmed by Craig Stihler of DNR in Elkins, WV (304-###-0245) Blackpoll warblers are endangered in PA - we have the southern-most breeding population. I hope we did not lose our nesting blackpoll warblers in this tragic incident. From the PGC: "Blackpoll warblers (Dendroica striata) are very rare and locally distributed nesting birds in Pennsylvania. Confirmed nesting has been confined to the Dutch Mountain wetlands in State Game Lands 57 of western Wyoming County. These boreal conifer wetlands are part of the Important Bird Area #48. There have been other reports of territorial blackpoll warblers elsewhere in northern Pennsylvania, but no nesting confirmed." This tragic incident is further proof that our mountains should not be developed for industrial wind energy. Laura JacksonEverettBedford County Killdeer [Kermit Henning ] --> http://digest.sialia.com/?rm=message;id=317262 -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: NFC protocol in eBird From: Andy Martin <apmartin2 AT gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:22:21 -0400 I have same question. Andy Martin Gaithersburg, MD On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:57 PM, laurent fournier < laurentfournier2003 AT yahoo.com> wrote: > Quick, and possibly naive question : > > "This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors"...does it mean we > should not enter data processed by automatic detection softwares (Tseep, for > ex)? What's about data that are recorded (mic+laptop) and later processed by > a human operator? > > Thanks > > > Laurent (Michigan) > > *From:* Kenneth Victor Rosenberg > *To:* Marshall Iliff > *Cc:* NFC-L > *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 10:48 PM > *Subject:* Re: [nfc-l] NFC protocol in eBird > > Thanks Marshall and to all of eBird! This is terrific -- can't wait to > enter (or edit :)) all my nfc data. > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marshall Iliff wrote: > > NFCers, > > Earlier this fall we had a discussion about how best to enter NFC counts in > eBird. Finally, we have a good answer for you! > > After much discussion, just today we added a NFC protocol to eBird. The > idea for this is to be sure to tag NFC counts so they can be easily > extracted from the data as well as to treat those a bit differently in eBird > output to avoid skewing the data. While we don't expect floods of NFC > counts, we do hope that some people will submit nightly counts, or even > hourly counts. If these types of counts were submitted however, large > volumes could certainly skew the eBird output that more typically represents > diurnal counts. > > To find this protocol, you can select it from the drop-down menu in step 2 > (date and effort) of data entry. Since there are many caveats, we ask that > everyone reads and understands the protocol in detail. > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/nfc-count-protocol > > There are a few important points in this, including: > > - You must report all species when using this protocol, but please select > "not reporting all species". This is a bit of a roundabout way to make sure > that we aren't comparing apples with oranges in eBird output. > > - We encourage the use of 'x' in cases where there is moderate to high > uncertainty in the counts, but we allow exact counts. We also encourage call > counts being submitted in the species comments. We hope that this > acknowledges the debate and issues with counting birds in nocturnal > migration and still allows for the data to be of use. > > - Note also the comments on the date and the definition of night > > - This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors. > > Thanks to everyone on this forum for discussions that have helped us refine > this and implement it. Let me know if you have questions or comments. And by > all means, feel free to revise your past NFC counts to this protocol > (pulling up all your Gray-cheeked records might be a good start, since so > many are detected by flight call). > > Best, > > Marshall Iliff > eBird Project Leader > > > -- > **************************** > Marshall J. Iliff > miliff AT aol.com > West Roxbury, MA > **************************** > eBird/AKN Project Leader > www.ebird.org > www.avianknowledge.net > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > Ithaca, NY > **************************** > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > > > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > > > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: NFC protocol in eBird From: laurent fournier <laurentfournier2003 AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Quick, and possibly naive question :   "This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors"...does it mean we should not enter data processed by automatic detection softwares (Tseep, for ex)? What's about data that are recorded (mic+laptop) and later processed by a human operator?   Thanks   Laurent (Michigan)  ________________________________ From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg To: Marshall Iliff Cc: NFC-L Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [nfc-l] NFC protocol in eBird Thanks Marshall and to all of eBird!  This is terrific -- can't wait to enter (or edit :)) all my nfc data. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marshall Iliff wrote: NFCers, > >Earlier this fall we had a discussion about how best to enter NFC counts in eBird. Finally, we have a good answer for you! > >After much discussion, just today we added a NFC protocol to eBird. The idea for this is to be sure to tag NFC counts so they can be easily extracted from the data as well as to treat those a bit differently in eBird output to avoid skewing the data. While we don't expect floods of NFC counts, we do hope that some people will submit nightly counts, or even hourly counts. If these types of counts were submitted however, large volumes could certainly skew the eBird output that more typically represents diurnal counts. > >To find this protocol, you can select it from the drop-down menu in step 2 (date and effort) of data entry. Since there are many caveats, we ask that everyone reads and understands the protocol in detail. http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/nfc-count-protocol > >There are a few important points in this, including: > >- You must report all species when using this protocol, but please select "not reporting all species". This is a bit of a roundabout way to make sure that we aren't comparing apples with oranges in eBird output. > >- We encourage the use of 'x' in cases where there is moderate to high uncertainty in the counts, but we allow exact counts. We also encourage call counts being submitted in the species comments. We hope that this acknowledges the debate and issues with counting birds in nocturnal migration and still allows for the data to be of use. > >- Note also the comments on the date and the definition of night > >- This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors. > >Thanks to everyone on this forum for discussions that have helped us refine this and implement it. Let me know if you have questions or comments. And by all means, feel free to revise your past NFC counts to this protocol (pulling up all your Gray-cheeked records might be a good start, since so many are detected by flight call). > >Best, > >Marshall Iliff >eBird Project Leader > > >-- >**************************** >Marshall J. Iliff >miliff AT aol.com >West Roxbury, MA >**************************** >eBird/AKN Project Leader >www.ebird.org >www.avianknowledge.net >Cornell Lab of Ornithology >Ithaca, NY >**************************** > >-- >NFC-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: NFC protocol in eBird From: David La Puma <woodcreeper AT gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:31:29 -0400 Marshall et al, Congrats on moving this forward; eBird is really growing at a rapid pace and keeping up with it is obviously a ton of work. I really admire everyone who has made it what it is today. Michael O'Brien and I spoke about this a few weeks back and I guess my take was that it made less sense (to me) for the eBirder to enter "no" for whether it was a complete checklist or not, and possibly more appropriate to require the eBirder to enter whether it was a nocturnal count or not. Truth be told, most of us recording NFCs ARE recording a complete list of the birds we were able to identify. I think if you allow us to enter whether it's a nocturnal count or not, then you can filter the data as you wish without adding a 'workaround' that makes little intuitive sense in the data stream. I apologize for coming to the conversation so late ;) Cheers David ________________________ David A. La Puma Postdoctoral Associate New Jersey Audubon Society 600 Route 47 North Cape May Court House, NJ 08210 Office: 609.861.1608 x33 Fax: 609.861.1651 Teaching/Research Profile: http://www.woodcreeper.com/teaching Websites: http://www.woodcreeper.com http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodcreeper On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Marshall Iliff wrote: > Erik, Andy et al., > > Andy is certainly right that we don;t want to get into complex NFC only > species options within eBird. It is always an option to use the wide-ranging > ones like "sparrow sp.","warbler sp.", or even "passerine sp." as you > suggest, and this is completely appropriate. To have NFC options, as Andy > points out, could get pretty out of hand. > > It was not easy _enough_ for us to force answers to "no", but we will do > periodic changes of the data to catch any where people forgot. When we have > more time for development and customization we may do this or we may just > adjust how the data are used in eBird output, which is the more > comprehensive solution. > > In general, we want eBirders to continue to THINK about this question, what > it means, and how it is used in eBird output. Even though this is sort of > confusing in this case, we don't want to get in the habit of letting people > default on this question since it is so integral to how eBird works. > > Best, > > Marshall > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Andrew Farnsworth < > andrew.farnsworth AT gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Erik, you bring up an interesting point about species' groupings. I >> think it would be cleanest and most useful (and this is what I do) to >> enter spp. and grouping designations already in place (e.g. various >> spuhs and generic groupings) without creating new ones and then add >> the characteristics you hear (or see if you have supporting >> spectrographic evidence) as comments (in as great a level of detail as >> you can). I'd be interested to hear others' perspectives on this >> (because I do like and find scientific value in the groupings that >> Bill E. and Michael O'B put forth), but I suspect a number on the list >> might agree that creating new groupings will open up cans of worms for >> eBird like "warbler/sparrow" sp. or "thrush/grosbeak/tanager" sp. etc. >> >> Regardless, I am thrilled that this protocol is in place, thanks to >> Marshall and all involved for making it happen. When do we get to >> create an eBird for non-human observers? Real eBirders . . . Kidding >> . . . >> >> Regards, >> Andrew >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 18:02, Erik Johnson >> wrote: >> > This is really exciting. Kudos to the eBird team for yet another >> > break-through! Two quick thoughts: >> > 1) from a programming perspective, would it be easy to force the user to >> > enter "no" when submitting all species? I can already see myself >> hitting >> > "yes" accidentally. >> > 2) is there any chance that new species groupings could be constructed? >> > Like zeeps, double-banded upsweeps, and so on. Maybe this opens up too >> > many cans of worms. And perhaps it is more practical to enter "warbler >> sp." >> > and then in the comments section list something like "3 zeeps and 2 >> > double-banded upsweeps." >> > Cheers, >> > Erik Johnson >> > S Lafayette, LA >> > ejohn33 AT lsu.edu >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Marshall Iliff wrote: >> >> >> >> NFCers, >> >> >> >> Earlier this fall we had a discussion about how best to enter NFC >> counts >> >> in eBird. Finally, we have a good answer for you! >> >> >> >> After much discussion, just today we added a NFC protocol to eBird. The >> >> idea for this is to be sure to tag NFC counts so they can be easily >> >> extracted from the data as well as to treat those a bit differently in >> eBird >> >> output to avoid skewing the data. While we don't expect floods of NFC >> >> counts, we do hope that some people will submit nightly counts, or even >> >> hourly counts. If these types of counts were submitted however, large >> >> volumes could certainly skew the eBird output that more typically >> represents >> >> diurnal counts. >> >> >> >> To find this protocol, you can select it from the drop-down menu in >> step 2 >> >> (date and effort) of data entry. Since there are many caveats, we ask >> that >> >> everyone reads and understands the protocol in detail. >> >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/nfc-count-protocol >> >> >> >> There are a few important points in this, including: >> >> >> >> - You must report all species when using this protocol, but please >> select >> >> "not reporting all species". This is a bit of a roundabout way to make >> sure >> >> that we aren't comparing apples with oranges in eBird output. >> >> >> >> - We encourage the use of 'x' in cases where there is moderate to high >> >> uncertainty in the counts, but we allow exact counts. We also encourage >> call >> >> counts being submitted in the species comments. We hope that this >> >> acknowledges the debate and issues with counting birds in nocturnal >> >> migration and still allows for the data to be of use. >> >> >> >> - Note also the comments on the date and the definition of night >> >> >> >> - This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors. >> >> >> >> Thanks to everyone on this forum for discussions that have helped us >> >> refine this and implement it. Let me know if you have questions or >> comments. >> >> And by all means, feel free to revise your past NFC counts to this >> protocol >> >> (pulling up all your Gray-cheeked records might be a good start, since >> so >> >> many are detected by flight call). >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Marshall Iliff >> >> eBird Project Leader >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> **************************** >> >> Marshall J. Iliff >> >> miliff AT aol.com >> >> West Roxbury, MA >> >> **************************** >> >> eBird/AKN Project Leader >> >> www.ebird.org >> >> www.avianknowledge.net >> >> Cornell Lab of Ornithology >> >> Ithaca, NY >> >> **************************** >> >> -- >> >> NFC-L List Info: >> >> Welcome and Basics >> >> Rules and Information >> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> >> Archives: >> >> The Mail Archive >> >> Surfbirds >> >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> >> -- >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Erik I. Johnson, PhD >> > Conservation Biologist >> > Gulf of Mexico | Mississippi Flyway >> > National Audubon Society >> > -- >> > 6160 Perkins Rd., suite 135 >> > Baton Rouge, LA 70808 >> > o: 225-768-0820, ext 203 >> > c: 225-252-8864 >> > f: 225-768-0821 >> > -- >> > NFC-L List Info: >> > Welcome and Basics >> > Rules and Information >> > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> > Archives: >> > The Mail Archive >> > Surfbirds >> > BirdingOnThe.Net >> > Please submit your observations to eBird! >> > -- >> >> -- >> >> NFC-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> > > > -- > **************************** > Marshall J. Iliff > miliff AT aol.com > West Roxbury, MA > **************************** > eBird/AKN Project Leader > www.ebird.org > www.avianknowledge.net > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > Ithaca, NY > **************************** > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Randon stuff from Colorado From: Benjamin Van Doren <bmvandoren AT gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:04:01 -0400 Hi Ted and all, I've been recording for nearly 7 months in a saltmarsh in NY--lots of samples of waterfowl wingbeats and I've noticed definite differences in pitch and wingbeat frequency (as would be expected based on differences in size and wing shape). Sounds like it would be a neat thing to look in to, and, since wingbeats are of course noises that can be recorded easily in the daytime with known species identity, something that wouldn't be so difficult to accomplish with a bit of time! Benjamin On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Ted Floyd wrote: > Make that Sunday, OCTOBER 23rd. > > (My mind's still back in August--when we get the really big flights in > Colorado!) > > --Ted > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-38191634-9667900 AT list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-38191634-9667900 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Ted Floyd > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:33 AM > To: nfc-l > Subject: [nfc-l] Randon stuff from Colorado > > Hello, NFC-Lers. > > We're way past the peak of audible nocturnal landbird migration here in > the foothills of the Rockies, but there's still a bit on the move. I was > out before sun-up on Sunday morning, August 23rd, and I heard a Hermit > Thrush flying over, and also a light flight of what I believe were > American Tree Sparrows. Location was Pella Crossing, Boulder County, > just east of the steep foothills of the Front Range. > > A bit off-topic, but I love the schizophrenic experience of birding in > places like Pella Crossing: A little bit before sunrise that morning, an > Eastern Screech-Owl and a "Nelson's" (interior west) White-breasted > Nuthatch were vocalizing from the same copse; Black-billed Magpies were > coming from a roost, and a Blue Jay was calling somewhere; a Common > Grackle was stirring, and an Audubon's Warbler, perhaps a dawn migrant, > flew over. East meets West, totally. > > One other thing. I've been enjoying listening to night flights of ducks. > Lots of variation in the sounds of their wingbeats. Maybe the ultimate > challenge for nocturnal earbirders?... ;) > > ------------------------------- > > Ted Floyd > Editor, Birding > > Please check out the website of the ABA: http://aba.org > > And please check out The ABA Blog: http://blog.aba.org > > We're on twitter, too: http://twitter.com/BirdingMagazine > > ------------------------------- > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: NFC protocol in eBird From: Marshall Iliff <miliff AT aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:42:20 -0400 Erik, Andy et al., Andy is certainly right that we don;t want to get into complex NFC only species options within eBird. It is always an option to use the wide-ranging ones like "sparrow sp.","warbler sp.", or even "passerine sp." as you suggest, and this is completely appropriate. To have NFC options, as Andy points out, could get pretty out of hand. It was not easy _enough_ for us to force answers to "no", but we will do periodic changes of the data to catch any where people forgot. When we have more time for development and customization we may do this or we may just adjust how the data are used in eBird output, which is the more comprehensive solution. In general, we want eBirders to continue to THINK about this question, what it means, and how it is used in eBird output. Even though this is sort of confusing in this case, we don't want to get in the habit of letting people default on this question since it is so integral to how eBird works. Best, Marshall On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Andrew Farnsworth < andrew.farnsworth AT gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > Erik, you bring up an interesting point about species' groupings. I > think it would be cleanest and most useful (and this is what I do) to > enter spp. and grouping designations already in place (e.g. various > spuhs and generic groupings) without creating new ones and then add > the characteristics you hear (or see if you have supporting > spectrographic evidence) as comments (in as great a level of detail as > you can). I'd be interested to hear others' perspectives on this > (because I do like and find scientific value in the groupings that > Bill E. and Michael O'B put forth), but I suspect a number on the list > might agree that creating new groupings will open up cans of worms for > eBird like "warbler/sparrow" sp. or "thrush/grosbeak/tanager" sp. etc. > > Regardless, I am thrilled that this protocol is in place, thanks to > Marshall and all involved for making it happen. When do we get to > create an eBird for non-human observers? Real eBirders . . . Kidding > . . . > > Regards, > Andrew > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 18:02, Erik Johnson > wrote: > > This is really exciting. Kudos to the eBird team for yet another > > break-through! Two quick thoughts: > > 1) from a programming perspective, would it be easy to force the user to > > enter "no" when submitting all species? I can already see myself hitting > > "yes" accidentally. > > 2) is there any chance that new species groupings could be constructed? > > Like zeeps, double-banded upsweeps, and so on. Maybe this opens up too > > many cans of worms. And perhaps it is more practical to enter "warbler > sp." > > and then in the comments section list something like "3 zeeps and 2 > > double-banded upsweeps." > > Cheers, > > Erik Johnson > > S Lafayette, LA > > ejohn33 AT lsu.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Marshall Iliff wrote: > >> > >> NFCers, > >> > >> Earlier this fall we had a discussion about how best to enter NFC counts > >> in eBird. Finally, we have a good answer for you! > >> > >> After much discussion, just today we added a NFC protocol to eBird. The > >> idea for this is to be sure to tag NFC counts so they can be easily > >> extracted from the data as well as to treat those a bit differently in > eBird > >> output to avoid skewing the data. While we don't expect floods of NFC > >> counts, we do hope that some people will submit nightly counts, or even > >> hourly counts. If these types of counts were submitted however, large > >> volumes could certainly skew the eBird output that more typically > represents > >> diurnal counts. > >> > >> To find this protocol, you can select it from the drop-down menu in step > 2 > >> (date and effort) of data entry. Since there are many caveats, we ask > that > >> everyone reads and understands the protocol in detail. > >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/nfc-count-protocol > >> > >> There are a few important points in this, including: > >> > >> - You must report all species when using this protocol, but please > select > >> "not reporting all species". This is a bit of a roundabout way to make > sure > >> that we aren't comparing apples with oranges in eBird output. > >> > >> - We encourage the use of 'x' in cases where there is moderate to high > >> uncertainty in the counts, but we allow exact counts. We also encourage > call > >> counts being submitted in the species comments. We hope that this > >> acknowledges the debate and issues with counting birds in nocturnal > >> migration and still allows for the data to be of use. > >> > >> - Note also the comments on the date and the definition of night > >> > >> - This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors. > >> > >> Thanks to everyone on this forum for discussions that have helped us > >> refine this and implement it. Let me know if you have questions or > comments. > >> And by all means, feel free to revise your past NFC counts to this > protocol > >> (pulling up all your Gray-cheeked records might be a good start, since > so > >> many are detected by flight call). > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Marshall Iliff > >> eBird Project Leader > >> > >> > >> -- > >> **************************** > >> Marshall J. Iliff > >> miliff AT aol.com > >> West Roxbury, MA > >> **************************** > >> eBird/AKN Project Leader > >> www.ebird.org > >> www.avianknowledge.net > >> Cornell Lab of Ornithology > >> Ithaca, NY > >> **************************** > >> -- > >> NFC-L List Info: > >> Welcome and Basics > >> Rules and Information > >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > >> Archives: > >> The Mail Archive > >> Surfbirds > >> BirdingOnThe.Net > >> Please submit your observations to eBird! > >> -- > > > > > > -- > > Erik I. Johnson, PhD > > Conservation Biologist > > Gulf of Mexico | Mississippi Flyway > > National Audubon Society > > -- > > 6160 Perkins Rd., suite 135 > > Baton Rouge, LA 70808 > > o: 225-768-0820, ext 203 > > c: 225-252-8864 > > f: 225-768-0821 > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > > Welcome and Basics > > Rules and Information > > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > > Archives: > > The Mail Archive > > Surfbirds > > BirdingOnThe.Net > > Please submit your observations to eBird! > > -- > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- **************************** Marshall J. Iliff miliff AT aol.com West Roxbury, MA **************************** eBird/AKN Project Leader www.ebird.org www.avianknowledge.net Cornell Lab of Ornithology Ithaca, NY **************************** -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: RE: Randon stuff from Colorado From: Ted Floyd <tfloyd AT aba.org> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:37:35 -0600 Make that Sunday, OCTOBER 23rd. (My mind's still back in August--when we get the really big flights in Colorado!) --Ted -----Original Message----- From: bounce-38191634-9667900 AT list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-38191634-9667900 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Ted Floyd Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:33 AM To: nfc-l Subject: [nfc-l] Randon stuff from Colorado Hello, NFC-Lers. We're way past the peak of audible nocturnal landbird migration here in the foothills of the Rockies, but there's still a bit on the move. I was out before sun-up on Sunday morning, August 23rd, and I heard a Hermit Thrush flying over, and also a light flight of what I believe were American Tree Sparrows. Location was Pella Crossing, Boulder County, just east of the steep foothills of the Front Range. A bit off-topic, but I love the schizophrenic experience of birding in places like Pella Crossing: A little bit before sunrise that morning, an Eastern Screech-Owl and a "Nelson's" (interior west) White-breasted Nuthatch were vocalizing from the same copse; Black-billed Magpies were coming from a roost, and a Blue Jay was calling somewhere; a Common Grackle was stirring, and an Audubon's Warbler, perhaps a dawn migrant, flew over. East meets West, totally. One other thing. I've been enjoying listening to night flights of ducks. Lots of variation in the sounds of their wingbeats. Maybe the ultimate challenge for nocturnal earbirders?... ;) ------------------------------- Ted Floyd Editor, Birding Please check out the website of the ABA: http://aba.org And please check out The ABA Blog: http://blog.aba.org We're on twitter, too: http://twitter.com/BirdingMagazine ------------------------------- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Randon stuff from Colorado From: Ted Floyd <tfloyd AT aba.org> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:32:57 -0600 Hello, NFC-Lers. We're way past the peak of audible nocturnal landbird migration here in the foothills of the Rockies, but there's still a bit on the move. I was out before sun-up on Sunday morning, August 23rd, and I heard a Hermit Thrush flying over, and also a light flight of what I believe were American Tree Sparrows. Location was Pella Crossing, Boulder County, just east of the steep foothills of the Front Range. A bit off-topic, but I love the schizophrenic experience of birding in places like Pella Crossing: A little bit before sunrise that morning, an Eastern Screech-Owl and a "Nelson's" (interior west) White-breasted Nuthatch were vocalizing from the same copse; Black-billed Magpies were coming from a roost, and a Blue Jay was calling somewhere; a Common Grackle was stirring, and an Audubon's Warbler, perhaps a dawn migrant, flew over. East meets West, totally. One other thing. I've been enjoying listening to night flights of ducks. Lots of variation in the sounds of their wingbeats. Maybe the ultimate challenge for nocturnal earbirders?... ;) ------------------------------- Ted Floyd Editor, Birding Please check out the website of the ABA: http://aba.org And please check out The ABA Blog: http://blog.aba.org We're on twitter, too: http://twitter.com/BirdingMagazine ------------------------------- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: NFC protocol in eBird From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg <kvr2 AT cornell.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:48:38 +0000 Thanks Marshall and to all of eBird! This is terrific -- can't wait to enter (or edit :)) all my nfc data. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 24, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marshall Iliff wrote: NFCers, Earlier this fall we had a discussion about how best to enter NFC counts in eBird. Finally, we have a good answer for you! After much discussion, just today we added a NFC protocol to eBird. The idea for this is to be sure to tag NFC counts so they can be easily extracted from the data as well as to treat those a bit differently in eBird output to avoid skewing the data. While we don't expect floods of NFC counts, we do hope that some people will submit nightly counts, or even hourly counts. If these types of counts were submitted however, large volumes could certainly skew the eBird output that more typically represents diurnal counts. To find this protocol, you can select it from the drop-down menu in step 2 (date and effort) of data entry. Since there are many caveats, we ask that everyone reads and understands the protocol in detail. http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/nfc-count-protocol There are a few important points in this, including: - You must report all species when using this protocol, but please select "not reporting all species". This is a bit of a roundabout way to make sure that we aren't comparing apples with oranges in eBird output. - We encourage the use of 'x' in cases where there is moderate to high uncertainty in the counts, but we allow exact counts. We also encourage call counts being submitted in the species comments. We hope that this acknowledges the debate and issues with counting birds in nocturnal migration and still allows for the data to be of use. - Note also the comments on the date and the definition of night - This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors. Thanks to everyone on this forum for discussions that have helped us refine this and implement it. Let me know if you have questions or comments. And by all means, feel free to revise your past NFC counts to this protocol (pulling up all your Gray-cheeked records might be a good start, since so many are detected by flight call). Best, Marshall Iliff eBird Project Leader -- **************************** Marshall J. Iliff miliff AT aol.com West Roxbury, MA **************************** eBird/AKN Project Leader www.ebird.org www.avianknowledge.net Cornell Lab of Ornithology Ithaca, NY **************************** -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: NFC protocol in eBird From: Andrew Farnsworth <andrew.farnsworth AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:18:01 -0400 Hi all, Erik, you bring up an interesting point about species' groupings. I think it would be cleanest and most useful (and this is what I do) to enter spp. and grouping designations already in place (e.g. various spuhs and generic groupings) without creating new ones and then add the characteristics you hear (or see if you have supporting spectrographic evidence) as comments (in as great a level of detail as you can). I'd be interested to hear others' perspectives on this (because I do like and find scientific value in the groupings that Bill E. and Michael O'B put forth), but I suspect a number on the list might agree that creating new groupings will open up cans of worms for eBird like "warbler/sparrow" sp. or "thrush/grosbeak/tanager" sp. etc. Regardless, I am thrilled that this protocol is in place, thanks to Marshall and all involved for making it happen. When do we get to create an eBird for non-human observers? Real eBirders . . . Kidding . . . Regards, Andrew On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 18:02, Erik Johnson wrote: > This is really exciting.  Kudos to the eBird team for yet another > break-through!  Two quick thoughts: > 1) from a programming perspective, would it be easy to force the user to > enter "no" when submitting all species?  I can already see myself hitting > "yes" accidentally. > 2) is there any chance that new species groupings could be constructed? >  Like zeeps, double-banded upsweeps, and so on.  Maybe this opens up too > many cans of worms.  And perhaps it is more practical to enter "warbler sp." > and then in the comments section list something like "3 zeeps and 2 > double-banded upsweeps." > Cheers, > Erik Johnson > S Lafayette, LA > ejohn33 AT lsu.edu > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Marshall Iliff wrote: >> >> NFCers, >> >> Earlier this fall we had a discussion about how best to enter NFC counts >> in eBird. Finally, we have a good answer for you! >> >> After much discussion, just today we added a NFC protocol to eBird. The >> idea for this is to be sure to tag NFC counts so they can be easily >> extracted from the data as well as to treat those a bit differently in eBird >> output to avoid skewing the data. While we don't expect floods of NFC >> counts, we do hope that some people will submit nightly counts, or even >> hourly counts. If these types of counts were submitted however, large >> volumes could certainly skew the eBird output that more typically represents >> diurnal counts. >> >> To find this protocol, you can select it from the drop-down menu in step 2 >> (date and effort) of data entry. Since there are many caveats, we ask that >> everyone reads and understands the protocol in detail. >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/nfc-count-protocol >> >> There are a few important points in this, including: >> >> - You must report all species when using this protocol, but please select >> "not reporting all species". This is a bit of a roundabout way to make sure >> that we aren't comparing apples with oranges in eBird output. >> >> - We encourage the use of 'x' in cases where there is moderate to high >> uncertainty in the counts, but we allow exact counts. We also encourage call >> counts being submitted in the species comments. We hope that this >> acknowledges the debate and issues with counting birds in nocturnal >> migration and still allows for the data to be of use. >> >> - Note also the comments on the date and the definition of night >> >> - This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors. >> >> Thanks to everyone on this forum for discussions that have helped us >> refine this and implement it. Let me know if you have questions or comments. >> And by all means, feel free to revise your past NFC counts to this protocol >> (pulling up all your Gray-cheeked records might be a good start, since so >> many are detected by flight call). >> >> Best, >> >> Marshall Iliff >> eBird Project Leader >> >> >> -- >> **************************** >> Marshall J. Iliff >> miliff AT aol.com >> West Roxbury, MA >> **************************** >> eBird/AKN Project Leader >> www.ebird.org >> www.avianknowledge.net >> Cornell Lab of Ornithology >> Ithaca, NY >> **************************** >> -- >> NFC-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- > > > -- > Erik I. Johnson, PhD > Conservation Biologist > Gulf of Mexico | Mississippi Flyway > National Audubon Society > -- > 6160 Perkins Rd., suite 135 > Baton Rouge, LA 70808 > o: 225-768-0820, ext 203 > c: 225-252-8864 > f: 225-768-0821 > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: NFC protocol in eBird From: Erik Johnson <ejohn33 AT tigers.lsu.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:02:50 -0500 This is really exciting. Kudos to the eBird team for yet another break-through! Two quick thoughts: 1) from a programming perspective, would it be easy to force the user to enter "no" when submitting all species? I can already see myself hitting "yes" accidentally. 2) is there any chance that new species groupings could be constructed? Like zeeps, double-banded upsweeps, and so on. Maybe this opens up too many cans of worms. And perhaps it is more practical to enter "warbler sp." and then in the comments section list something like "3 zeeps and 2 double-banded upsweeps." Cheers, Erik Johnson S Lafayette, LA ejohn33 AT lsu.edu On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Marshall Iliff wrote: > NFCers, > > Earlier this fall we had a discussion about how best to enter NFC counts in > eBird. Finally, we have a good answer for you! > > After much discussion, just today we added a NFC protocol to eBird. The > idea for this is to be sure to tag NFC counts so they can be easily > extracted from the data as well as to treat those a bit differently in eBird > output to avoid skewing the data. While we don't expect floods of NFC > counts, we do hope that some people will submit nightly counts, or even > hourly counts. If these types of counts were submitted however, large > volumes could certainly skew the eBird output that more typically represents > diurnal counts. > > To find this protocol, you can select it from the drop-down menu in step 2 > (date and effort) of data entry. Since there are many caveats, we ask that > everyone reads and understands the protocol in detail. > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/nfc-count-protocol > > There are a few important points in this, including: > > - You must report all species when using this protocol, but please select > "not reporting all species". This is a bit of a roundabout way to make sure > that we aren't comparing apples with oranges in eBird output. > > - We encourage the use of 'x' in cases where there is moderate to high > uncertainty in the counts, but we allow exact counts. We also encourage call > counts being submitted in the species comments. We hope that this > acknowledges the debate and issues with counting birds in nocturnal > migration and still allows for the data to be of use. > > - Note also the comments on the date and the definition of night > > - This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors. > > Thanks to everyone on this forum for discussions that have helped us refine > this and implement it. Let me know if you have questions or comments. And by > all means, feel free to revise your past NFC counts to this protocol > (pulling up all your Gray-cheeked records might be a good start, since so > many are detected by flight call). > > Best, > > Marshall Iliff > eBird Project Leader > > > -- > **************************** > Marshall J. Iliff > miliff AT aol.com > West Roxbury, MA > **************************** > eBird/AKN Project Leader > www.ebird.org > www.avianknowledge.net > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > Ithaca, NY > **************************** > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- Erik I. Johnson, PhD Conservation Biologist Gulf of Mexico | Mississippi Flyway National Audubon Society -- 6160 Perkins Rd., suite 135 Baton Rouge, LA 70808 o: 225-768-0820, ext 203 c: 225-252-8864 f: 225-768-0821 -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: NFC protocol in eBird From: Marshall Iliff <miliff AT aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:12:52 -0400 NFCers, Earlier this fall we had a discussion about how best to enter NFC counts in eBird. Finally, we have a good answer for you! After much discussion, just today we added a NFC protocol to eBird. The idea for this is to be sure to tag NFC counts so they can be easily extracted from the data as well as to treat those a bit differently in eBird output to avoid skewing the data. While we don't expect floods of NFC counts, we do hope that some people will submit nightly counts, or even hourly counts. If these types of counts were submitted however, large volumes could certainly skew the eBird output that more typically represents diurnal counts. To find this protocol, you can select it from the drop-down menu in step 2 (date and effort) of data entry. Since there are many caveats, we ask that everyone reads and understands the protocol in detail. http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/nfc-count-protocol There are a few important points in this, including: - You must report all species when using this protocol, but please select "not reporting all species". This is a bit of a roundabout way to make sure that we aren't comparing apples with oranges in eBird output. - We encourage the use of 'x' in cases where there is moderate to high uncertainty in the counts, but we allow exact counts. We also encourage call counts being submitted in the species comments. We hope that this acknowledges the debate and issues with counting birds in nocturnal migration and still allows for the data to be of use. - Note also the comments on the date and the definition of night - This protocol is not to be used for automatic detectors. Thanks to everyone on this forum for discussions that have helped us refine this and implement it. Let me know if you have questions or comments. And by all means, feel free to revise your past NFC counts to this protocol (pulling up all your Gray-cheeked records might be a good start, since so many are detected by flight call). Best, Marshall Iliff eBird Project Leader -- **************************** Marshall J. Iliff miliff AT aol.com West Roxbury, MA **************************** eBird/AKN Project Leader www.ebird.org www.avianknowledge.net Cornell Lab of Ornithology Ithaca, NY **************************** -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: ADMIN: NFC-L Archives From: Chris Tessaglia-Hymes <cth4 AT cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:36:48 -0400 Good afternoon, Executive Summary: Please try not to cross-post the same message to multiple eLists - in other words, do not add multiple email Lists in the To: or Cc: fields of a new message. Instead, please generate a separate email message for each email List you wish to post to. This will help prevent messages with duplicate Message ID's from getting deleted by "smart" email-handling programs and, thus, help prevent duplicate messages from getting dropped from the message archive locations. Details: First, I am referencing the three archive locations, here: Primary (Long-term): http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html Secondary (Long-term): http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L Tertiary (Short-term): http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html It had come to my attention that some messages are variably not successfully being archived into the three archives available for NFC-L. For the past several weeks, I have been working with these various Archive Managers and Owners and the Cornell ListManager to identify what is causing messages to seemingly drop from the archive - never even appearing. A variety of contributing factors were identified, some of which we, as Managers/Owners don't have any control over. One of the factors that can prevent messages from being properly archived has to do with an email's unique Message ID. Each time a user creates and sends an email message, that email message will be assigned a unique Message ID "number", regardless of how many email addresses the message is addressed to in either the To: or Cc: field. This means that if a user sends a message to List A and decides to Cc: the same message to List B, the message arriving at List A and List B will have the same unique Message ID, even though the recipient Lists are different. Where this becomes a problem is in the "smart" way that many new email servers are handling messages that appear to be "identical" through the comparison between Message ID's. If there is a subscriber who is only subscribed to List A, they will not see this as a problem. If there is a subscriber to both Lists A and B, they may likely see a problem; their email server will allow the first message arriving into their server to be processed as normal, but recognize the second message (arriving split seconds later) as a duplicate and trash that second "duplicate" message, before it even goes out for delivery to their email address. The result is that a subscriber to Lists A and B may only get that cross-posted message from List A and not from List B, or vice versa, depending upon arrival time. Now, apply this to the Archives. The Archives are treated in the same way that any subscriber is treated. The Archives are created from a subscribed email address. If said Archive "subscriber" is subscribed to Lists A and B, that Archive will only "see" a single duplicated or cross-posted message - the one which is received first by the Archive's mail server. As a result, any cross-posted message might show up in email Archive for List A and not in email Archive for List B, C, D, E, etc., even though the message was originally addressed to multiple other email Lists. A relatively simple work-around for this, although perhaps a bit clunky, is to generate a unique message for each List. It probably takes an extra 20 seconds per List address (cut-and-pasting the entire message into a new email for each List). I realize this may not be feasible or convenient for many to do in this way. The benefit in doing this, is to produce a unique Message ID for each message sent to each email List, allowing each respective multi-List-subscribed email address to receive each "cross-posted" message; thus, allowing each message to appear in each respective email Archive for the greater good of future references to the Archives. In summary, please try not to cross-post the same message to multiple eLists - in other words, do not add multiple email Lists in the To: or Cc: fields of a new message. Instead, please generate a separate email message for each email List you wish to post to. This will help prevent messages with duplicate Message ID's from getting deleted by "smart" email-handling programs and, thus, help prevent duplicate messages from getting dropped from the message archive locations. Thanks very much to those who took the time to read this long-winded explanation! If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact me off List. Thanks again and good birding! Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Chris Tessaglia-Hymes Listowner, NFC-L Ithaca, New York cth4 AT cornell.edu NFC-L - Archives NFC-L - Welcome and Basics NFC-L - Rules and Information NFC-L - Subscribe, Configuration and Leave -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ From: Chase Schiefer <bachmans.ivory AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:26:58 -0400 My apologies for the broken link. It was an overwhelming experience. I think every bird brain must get the same feeling inside when they hear such a high volume of calls overhead in the stillness of night. It was incredible to hear the birds come in waves. Chunks of warblers, then groups of thrushes. I was impressed with how many calls the fire field recorder app actually picked up. I'm sure this was due to the low altitude of the birds. I feared the waves crashing nearby would drown most activity out. I had the gain pushed all the way up to +24db and the mic pointed straight up. Thanks to everyone who submitted comments on the soundcloud site! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ‎"Our job is to record, each in his own way, this world of light and shadow and time that will never come again exactly as it is today." Edward Abbey Chase Schiefer Bachman's Ivory Hazlet, NJ http://chaseschieferphotography.com http://www.facebook.com/chaseschieferphotography http://www.flickr.com/photos/bachmansivory/sets/ On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Allen T. Chartier wrote: > Chase, > > I was out surveying this morning and it appears that the October 5 "peak" of > White-throated Sparrows and Hermit Thrushes arrived here in southeastern > Michigan last night, as I had hundreds of sparrows and dozens of thrushes in > the one park I was covering. We're in for two days of rain... > > Allen T. Chartier > amazilia1(at)comcast.net > Inkster, Michigan, USA > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chase Schiefer" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:52 AM > Subject: [nfc-l] Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ > > > A thick fog has rolled in at 3:18 am near port Monmouth on the Raritan > bay. There are at least 3 flight calls a second. I've never heard so > much activity at night. Birds are coming in waves. Thrushes seem to be > flying higher in altitude compared to the other calls, they are also, > for the most part staying as east as possible. This was recorded about > 500 feet from the bay. Recorded using Fire field recorder app on > iPhone. Can anyone ID any of these calls? > > http://soundcloud.com/chase-schiefer/recording-10-19-3-21-am > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ‎"Our job is to record, each in his own way, this world of light and > shadow and time that will never come again exactly as it is today." > Edward Abbey > > Chase Schiefer > Bachman's Ivory > Hazlet, NJ > http://chaseschieferphotography.com > http://www.facebook.com/chaseschieferphotography > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bachmansivory/sets/ > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1 AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:30:26 -0400 Chase, I was out surveying this morning and it appears that the October 5 "peak" of White-throated Sparrows and Hermit Thrushes arrived here in southeastern Michigan last night, as I had hundreds of sparrows and dozens of thrushes in the one park I was covering. We're in for two days of rain... Allen T. Chartier amazilia1(at)comcast.net Inkster, Michigan, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chase Schiefer" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:52 AM Subject: [nfc-l] Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ A thick fog has rolled in at 3:18 am near port Monmouth on the Raritan bay. There are at least 3 flight calls a second. I've never heard so much activity at night. Birds are coming in waves. Thrushes seem to be flying higher in altitude compared to the other calls, they are also, for the most part staying as east as possible. This was recorded about 500 feet from the bay. Recorded using Fire field recorder app on iPhone. Can anyone ID any of these calls? http://soundcloud.com/chase-schiefer/recording-10-19-3-21-am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ‎"Our job is to record, each in his own way, this world of light and shadow and time that will never come again exactly as it is today." Edward Abbey Chase Schiefer Bachman's Ivory Hazlet, NJ http://chaseschieferphotography.com http://www.facebook.com/chaseschieferphotography http://www.flickr.com/photos/bachmansivory/sets/ -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Audio File Converter From: Chris Tessaglia-Hymes <cth4 AT cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:26:01 -0400 This message is for those of us who may still have some of those old AIF format night flight sound recordings kicking around, but have been looking for an easy way to convert them to WAV format (or other output file types). So, I thought I'd share with everyone an excellent audio converter that I just found and successfully tested. It's called Fubar2000. http://www.foobar2000.org/ It's freeware, no gimmicks (except for the ads on the page.don't click on those - including the fake "Download" button - just click on the actual version releases under "Latest news"). It was pretty easy to figure out how to use. I needed to convert a huge batch (1,282) of audio files from AIF format to WAV format. I added the batch of files (or the directory) to be converted, right-clicked on the highlighted files, and chose "convert" from the menu. Then I changed the output directory, crossed my fingers, and clicked the "Convert" button. Within 2-3 minutes, I had all 1,282 files converted and conveniently placed in the output directory that I had created.and they worked! The conversion does not eliminate the original files; it creates a new copy of the files in the format of your choice (default is WAV). Hope this is helpful - it was for me! Good night listening! Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ From: David La Puma <woodcreeper AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:55:08 -0400 Hey Chase- Not only was that a cool experience, but the interactive nature of Sound Cloud is awesome! I don't recall it being so interactive in the past- but the ability for folks to add comments to specific points in the track is fantastic. Everyone should check this out. If the link didn't work (it didn't for me) just go to Chase's main page: http://soundcloud.com/chase-schiefer and listen to the top track. cheers- and good listening! David ________________________ David A. La Puma Postdoctoral Associate New Jersey Audubon Society 600 Route 47 North Cape May Court House, NJ 08210 Office: 609.861.1608 x33 Fax: 609.861.1651 Teaching/Research Profile: http://www.woodcreeper.com/teaching Websites: http://www.woodcreeper.com http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodcreeper On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Chase Schiefer wrote: > A thick fog has rolled in at 3:18 am near port Monmouth on the Raritan > bay. There are at least 3 flight calls a second. I've never heard so > much activity at night. Birds are coming in waves. Thrushes seem to be > flying higher in altitude compared to the other calls, they are also, > for the most part staying as east as possible. This was recorded about > 500 feet from the bay. Recorded using Fire field recorder app on > iPhone. Can anyone ID any of these calls? > > http://soundcloud.com/chase-schiefer/recording-10-19-3-21-am > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ‎"Our job is to record, each in his own way, this world of light and > shadow and time that will never come again exactly as it is today." > Edward Abbey > > Chase Schiefer > Bachman's Ivory > Hazlet, NJ > http://chaseschieferphotography.com > http://www.facebook.com/chaseschieferphotography > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bachmansivory/sets/ > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Large foggy flight over Port Monmouth, NJ From: Chase Schiefer <bachmans.ivory AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 03:52:01 -0400 A thick fog has rolled in at 3:18 am near port Monmouth on the Raritan bay. There are at least 3 flight calls a second. I've never heard so much activity at night. Birds are coming in waves. Thrushes seem to be flying higher in altitude compared to the other calls, they are also, for the most part staying as east as possible. This was recorded about 500 feet from the bay. Recorded using Fire field recorder app on iPhone. Can anyone ID any of these calls? http://soundcloud.com/chase-schiefer/recording-10-19-3-21-am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ‎"Our job is to record, each in his own way, this world of light and shadow and time that will never come again exactly as it is today." Edward Abbey Chase Schiefer Bachman's Ivory Hazlet, NJ http://chaseschieferphotography.com http://www.facebook.com/chaseschieferphotography http://www.flickr.com/photos/bachmansivory/sets/ -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Ethan Duke <ethan.duke AT mrbo.org> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:45:01 -0500 Chris, It definitely seems more likely that it is on the high end of the motivation spectrum. Seems like a long shot for a flight vocalization. Thanks! Ethan On 13 Oct 2011, at 10:44 AM, Christopher Heckscher wrote: > Ethan, > > The vocalization you sent is not what I would normally call the "whisper song". Instead, we informally refer to this as the "electric note" -- the term was adopted from some Wood Thrush researchers in Dr. Roth's lab at University of Delaware. The Wood Thrush has a very similar vocalization. The electric note is often given early and late in the breeding season usually just before or after a song. I'm not sure of the function but it's clear it is given during times of high motivation. The structure suggests it could act as a high motivation/high aggression location cue for assessors. I would not expect the electric note to be given in flight, but who knows! > > The whisper song -- as I know it -- is a full song that is sung at very low amplitude. If I recall correctly, Gene Morton has hypothesized that the whisper song is produced such that the song is received by assessors with minimal reverberation and therefore may be highly threatening. From my field observations of Veeries I have no reason to think this is not the case. Whisper songs are used by many species. > > > > > Christopher M. Heckscher, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor, Environmental Science & Ecology > Institutional Project Director, NOAA Environmental Cooperative Science Center > Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources > Delaware State University > 1200 N. DuPont Highway > Dover, DE 19901 > > ________________________________________ > From: bounce-38145761-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu [bounce-38145761-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Ethan Duke [ethan.duke AT mrbo.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:12 PM > To: NFC-L > Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground > > Chris, > I'm sure you've encountered the Veery "Whisper Song." I was wondering if you have elucidated any possible functions? Do you thing it is used in flight? I've recorded it several times and imagine it wouldn't have enough amplitude to be picked up by most NFC recorders. I've attached an image of one. > > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Beginning NFC recording in the Pacific Northwest help From: Jay Withgott <withgott AT comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:59:41 -0700 Hi Dan -- That's great that you'll be recording, and there are many folks on this list who can help. The bad news is the timing: The skies get pretty darn quiet around here after about now. I suspect that the heavy flight last night contained the last gasp of Swainson's Thrushes pushing through this season. There will be some Hermit Thrushes and Varied Thrushes and Yellow-rumps and sparrows going through for the next couple of weeks, but it's not at all as noisy as it is in the East. So if you intend to do this this fall, you'll definitely want to get going ASAP. Best wishes! Jay Withgott, Portland, OR At 7:21 PM -0700 10/13/11, Dan Gusset wrote: >Greetings Night Flight Call Group! > >I am a student at The Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. I have >been watching and listening to birds for a few years and have >recently become excited about doing nocturnal migrant surveys. I >would like to do a survey over the next few weeks for a school >research project. I have found some of the available online >resources such as OldBird.org and Bill Evans' cd, but would like to >talk to someone who has done nocturnal migrant recording locally to >help me get set up with equipment and to know about timing etc. For >instance, how much longer will the passerines be migrating for? It >has been mostly overcast here every night for the last week and a >half and I have hardly heard any flight calls whereas about a month >ago I was hearing a lot of thrush flight calls. All of the research >I have found so far has been specific to the east coast so a pointer >to Pacific Northwest research or someone who has done this work in >the Pacific Northwest would be great! Also some tips on affordable >equipment-- does it really only take 3 hours to build the bucket >recorder on the Oldbird.org website? > >Thank you very much! >Dan Gusset >The Evergreen State College >Olympia, WA >-- >NFC-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, >Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Beginning NFC recording in the Pacific Northwest help From: Dan Gusset <dgusset AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:21:25 -0700 Greetings Night Flight Call Group! I am a student at The Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. I have been watching and listening to birds for a few years and have recently become excited about doing nocturnal migrant surveys. I would like to do a survey over the next few weeks for a school research project. I have found some of the available online resources such as OldBird.org and Bill Evans' cd, but would like to talk to someone who has done nocturnal migrant recording locally to help me get set up with equipment and to know about timing etc. For instance, how much longer will the passerines be migrating for? It has been mostly overcast here every night for the last week and a half and I have hardly heard any flight calls whereas about a month ago I was hearing a lot of thrush flight calls. All of the research I have found so far has been specific to the east coast so a pointer to Pacific Northwest research or someone who has done this work in the Pacific Northwest would be great! Also some tips on affordable equipment-- does it really only take 3 hours to build the bucket recorder on the Oldbird.org website? Thank you very much! Dan Gusset The Evergreen State College Olympia, WA -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: RE: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Christopher Heckscher <checkscher AT desu.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:44:15 -0400 Ethan, The vocalization you sent is not what I would normally call the "whisper song". Instead, we informally refer to this as the "electric note" -- the term was adopted from some Wood Thrush researchers in Dr. Roth's lab at University of Delaware. The Wood Thrush has a very similar vocalization. The electric note is often given early and late in the breeding season usually just before or after a song. I'm not sure of the function but it's clear it is given during times of high motivation. The structure suggests it could act as a high motivation/high aggression location cue for assessors. I would not expect the electric note to be given in flight, but who knows! The whisper song -- as I know it -- is a full song that is sung at very low amplitude. If I recall correctly, Gene Morton has hypothesized that the whisper song is produced such that the song is received by assessors with minimal reverberation and therefore may be highly threatening. From my field observations of Veeries I have no reason to think this is not the case. Whisper songs are used by many species. Christopher M. Heckscher, Ph.D. Assistant Professor, Environmental Science & Ecology Institutional Project Director, NOAA Environmental Cooperative Science Center Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources Delaware State University 1200 N. DuPont Highway Dover, DE 19901 ________________________________________ From: bounce-38145761-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu [bounce-38145761-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Ethan Duke [ethan.duke AT mrbo.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:12 PM To: NFC-L Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground Chris, I'm sure you've encountered the Veery "Whisper Song." I was wondering if you have elucidated any possible functions? Do you thing it is used in flight? I've recorded it several times and imagine it wouldn't have enough amplitude to be picked up by most NFC recorders. I've attached an image of one. -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: "Michael O'Brien" <tsweet AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:20:56 +0000 Interesting Mike. Yes, I've also heard Swainson's and Veery give quite a variety of strongly modulated calls, including a few that seemed to fall under the context of contact call/flight call. Can't remember hearing that from Hermit, but it wouldn't surprise me if all Catharus occasionally give analogous calls. I'll have to listen for that! thanks, Michael Michael O'Brien Victor Emanuel Nature Tours www.ventbird.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Lanzone" To: "Michael O'Brien" Cc: "Jeff Wells" , "Nocturnal Flight Call ListServe" Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:35:27 PM Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground I have heard Hermit Thrush give a call like that, interestingly I have also heard Gray-cheeked, Swainsons, and Veery give an alternate "flight" call note. These notes sounds a bit harsher and blurry or jumbled in quality, if that makes sense. At least Swainson's and Gray-cheeked have more than one call variation like this. I first heard these calls while I had them in the hand while I was recording flight calls in captivity at Powdermill (Auk 126-3: 511-519). I could never get them to make the calls while in the cone for a recording, always while I had them in the hand transferring them to the cone. Swainson's calls almost sounds like a "grrring" sound added to the calls and a bit shorter. Ethan, what you posted sounds very much like what I have heard form Veerys. Bill Cohran has recorded the other call I have heard from Swainson's I think, he told me he had one when I described the call to him. I have since heard all these calls at night, without having hearing them beforehand I would not have know what they were, although I have since heard calls similar to a few of these on the breeding grounds, so I bet they would be in the Macaulay Library if someone had the time to look there! Michael Lanzone mlanzone AT gmail.com On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Michael O'Brien < tsweet AT comcast.net > wrote: Alll, This has been a fun thread spun off Jeff's original post. But I have to say, what really caught my attention from listening to his video clip was that second call note which has a distinctly burry quality. To my ear, it sounds very similar to a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. I don't recall ever hearing a Hermit Thrush give a call like that. Has anyone else? thanks, Michael Michael O'Brien Victor Emanuel Nature Tours www.ventbird.com From: "Jeff Wells" < jwells AT intlboreal.org > To: "Nocturnal Flight Call ListServe" < nfc-l AT cornell.edu > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:09:41 PM Subject: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. Jeff Wells Gardiner, Maine -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird ! -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird ! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Michael Lanzone <mlanzone AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:35:27 -0400 I have heard Hermit Thrush give a call like that, interestingly I have also heard Gray-cheeked, Swainsons, and Veery give an alternate "flight" call note. These notes sounds a bit harsher and blurry or jumbled in quality, if that makes sense. At least Swainson's and Gray-cheeked have more than one call variation like this. I first heard these calls while I had them in the hand while I was recording flight calls in captivity at Powdermill (Auk 126-3: 511-519). I could never get them to make the calls while in the cone for a recording, always while I had them in the hand transferring them to the cone. Swainson's calls almost sounds like a "grrring" sound added to the calls and a bit shorter. Ethan, what you posted sounds very much like what I have heard form Veerys. Bill Cohran has recorded the other call I have heard from Swainson's I think, he told me he had one when I described the call to him. I have since heard all these calls at night, without having hearing them beforehand I would not have know what they were, although I have since heard calls similar to a few of these on the breeding grounds, so I bet they would be in the Macaulay Library if someone had the time to look there! Michael Lanzone mlanzone AT gmail.com On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Michael O'Brien wrote: > Alll, > > This has been a fun thread spun off Jeff's original post. But I have to > say, what really caught my attention from listening to his video clip was > that second call note which has a distinctly burry quality. To my ear, it > sounds very similar to a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. I don't recall ever hearing > a Hermit Thrush give a call like that. Has anyone else? > > thanks, > Michael > > Michael O'Brien > Victor Emanuel Nature Tours > www.ventbird.com > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Jeff Wells" > *To: *"Nocturnal Flight Call ListServe" > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:09:41 PM > *Subject: *[nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground > > > Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine > watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began > hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. > Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” > nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my > recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the > street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight > call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller > tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit > before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped > calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. > > > > I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I > posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some > recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs > during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s > Thrush doing that. > > > > Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving > nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation > > > > Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than > what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what > I am used to hearing at night. > > > > Jeff Wells > > Gardiner, Maine > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Ethan Duke <ethan.duke AT mrbo.org> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:12:02 -0500 Chris, I'm sure you've encountered the Veery "Whisper Song." I was wondering if you have elucidated any possible functions? Do you thing it is used in flight? I've recorded it several times and imagine it wouldn't have enough amplitude to be picked up by most NFC recorders. I've attached an image of one. -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Ethan C. Duke, Assistant Director Missouri River Bird Observatory website: www.mrbo.org blog: http://mrbohappenings.blogspot.com/ 660.886.8788 On 12 Oct 2011, at 10:06 AM, Christopher Heckscher wrote: > This is a very interesting question indeed. I've spent many years studying Veery calls. A call will be used in multiple contexts if the accomplishment of that call is warranted in a give social context. So, a Veery call will be used in flight and on the ground if the accomplishment (or function) is appropriate for the given social context. The flight call is simply a call that can function appropriately both in the air during migration and in a forest. Very little is known about calling behavior of South American Catharus but they probably have comparable call repertoires. > > > Christopher M. Heckscher, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor, Environmental Science & Ecology > Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources > Delaware State University > 1200 N. DuPont Highway > Dover, DE 19901 > > > > ________________________________ > From: bounce-38143835-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu [bounce-38143835-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jesse Ellis [calocitta8 AT gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:49 AM > To: NFC-L > Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground > > Seems like all the North American Catharus do this, no? I'm pretty sure I've heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting question, then, would be whether Central and S. American Catharus have such calls.... > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg > wrote: > I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: > > Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such a great tape! > > Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well but I could never record it..... > > Fun stuff! > > Jeff > > Jeff Wells > International Boreal Conservation Campaign > Boreal Songbird Initiative > > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" > wrote: > > Jeff et al. > > I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: > > Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. > > I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. > > Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation > > Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. > > Jeff Wells > Gardiner, Maine > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- > > > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- > > > > -- > Jesse Ellis > Post-doctoral Researcher > Dept. of Zoology > University of Wisconsin - Madison > Madison, Dane Co, WI > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- > > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: "Michael O'Brien" <tsweet AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:56:11 +0000 Alll, This has been a fun thread spun off Jeff's original post. But I have to say, what really caught my attention from listening to his video clip was that second call note which has a distinctly burry quality. To my ear, it sounds very similar to a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. I don't recall ever hearing a Hermit Thrush give a call like that. Has anyone else? thanks, Michael Michael O'Brien Victor Emanuel Nature Tours www.ventbird.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Wells" To: "Nocturnal Flight Call ListServe" Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:09:41 PM Subject: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. Jeff Wells Gardiner, Maine -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird ! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Jay Withgott <withgott AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:19:07 -0700 I agree! That thing was a pedagogical masterpiece. I got a bootleg copy during the World Series of Birding many years ago (likely a bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg, actually... I suspect a lot of us owe you royalties, Bill) and it was the perfect teaching tool. And even the warts on Side B were charming (e.g., the loud airplane behind the American Bittern and the party music in the background of the, what was it, Green Heron, I think?). Would be wonderful to re-release the original as a CD along with an update of "what we know today".... Jay Withgott, Portland, OR, where the Hermits and esp. the Swainson's do flight calls on the ground At 6:44 PM +0000 10/12/11, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg wrote: >Man, we're old! > >Although the CDRom is the way to go for learning and studying, it >was Bill's careful narrative and logic that helped to solidify these >calls in your brain. Look for this ancient medium on eBay. > >KEN > > > >Ken Rosenberg >Conservation Science Program >Cornell Lab of Ornithology >607-254-2412 >607-342-4594 (cell) >kvr2 AT cornell.edu > >On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Bill Evans wrote: > >>As a reflection on Steve Jobs passing, I posted the cover of the >>"Nocturnal Flight Calls of Migrating Thrushes" cassette tape to the >>Facebook nocturnal flight calls group last week. The pic, included >>here, was made in Minneapolis on a friend's Apple MacIntosh Plus >>computer in 1986. The "thrush tape" was completed in 1989 and >>offered to birders via the the classified adds of ABA's "Winging >>It" bulletin in early 1990. As I recall, the tape sold for $15 and >>over 400 were produced. Most of the tracks were duplicated on the >>Flight Calls CDRom. ~Bill E >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg >>To: Jeff Wells >>Cc: NFC-L >>Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM >>Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground >> >>I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff >>is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the >>best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got >>started with that tape! >> >>KEN >> >> >> >>Ken Rosenberg >>Conservation Science Program >>Cornell Lab of Ornithology >>607-254-2412 >>607-342-4594 (cell) >>kvr2 AT cornell.edu >> >>On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: >> >>>Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I >>>am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush >>>singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls >>>in the song? That was such a great tape! >> >>Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing >>this as well but I could never record it..... >> >>Fun stuff! >> >>Jeff >> >>Jeff Wells >>International Boreal Conservation Campaign >>Boreal Songbird Initiative >> >> >>On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" >><kvr2 AT cornell.edu> wrote: >> >>>Jeff et al. >> >>I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the >>ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often >>interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also >>heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the >>nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways >>that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by >>matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and >>visually confirmed. >> >>KEN >> >> >> >>Ken Rosenberg >>Conservation Science Program >>Cornell Lab of Ornithology >>607-254-2412 >>607-342-4594 (cell) >><>kvr2 AT cornell.edu >> >>On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: >> >>>Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central >>>Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and >>>through when I began hearing the "chuck" call of a Hermit Thrush >>>from the neighbor's backyard. Soon it began alternating between >>>the "chuck" call and the drawn-out "whee" nocturnal flight call. I >>>went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was >>>packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into >>>the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight >>>call with no more of the "chuck" call and then it moved to another >>>taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the >>>call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or >>>it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby >>>but I never saw or heard it again. >>I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of >>which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I >>think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the >>nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I >>have a recording of a Swainson's Thrush doing that. >>Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled "Hermit Thrush >>giving nocturnal flight call" >>at: <>http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation >>Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much >>burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a >>bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. >>Jeff Wells >>Gardiner, Maine >>-- >>NFC-L List Info: >>Welcome and Basics >>Rules and Information >>Subscribe, >>Configuration and Leave >>Archives: >>The Mail Archive >>Surfbirds >>BirdingOnThe.Net >>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>-- >> >> >> >>-- >>NFC-L List Info: >>Welcome and Basics >>Rules and Information >>Subscribe, >>Configuration and Leave >>Archives: >>The Mail Archive >>Surfbirds >>BirdingOnThe.Net >>Please submit your observations to eBird! >>-- >> > >-- >NFC-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, >Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Michael Lanzone <mlanzone AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:49:41 -0400 I think I may still have the original tape, although I don't think I have a cassette player anymore ;) Would be great to re-release the original tape in CD format Bill! Michael Lanzone mlanzone AT gmail.com On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg wrote: > Man, we're old! > > Although the CDRom is the way to go for learning and studying, it was > Bill's careful narrative and logic that helped to solidify these calls in > your brain. Look for this ancient medium on eBay. > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Bill Evans wrote: > > As a reflection on Steve Jobs passing, I posted the cover of the > "Nocturnal Flight Calls of Migrating Thrushes" cassette tape to the Facebook > nocturnal flight calls group last week. The pic, included here, was made in > Minneapolis on a friend's Apple MacIntosh Plus computer in 1986. The "thrush > tape" was completed in 1989 and offered to birders via the the classified > adds of ABA's "Winging It" bulletin in early 1990. As I recall, the > tape sold for $15 and over 400 were produced. Most of the tracks were > duplicated on the Flight Calls CDRom. ~Bill E > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kenneth Victor Rosenberg > *To:* Jeff Wells > *Cc:* NFC-L > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM > *Subject:* Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground > > I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is > referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer > for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: > > Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am > remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the > breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was > such a great tape! > > Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as > well but I could never record it..... > > Fun stuff! > > Jeff > > Jeff Wells > International Boreal Conservation Campaign > Boreal Songbird Initiative > > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" > wrote: > > Jeff et al. > > I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground > at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with > "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and > Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I > believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all > the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts > during the day and visually confirmed. > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: > > Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine > watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began > hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. > Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” > nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my > recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the > street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight > call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller > tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit > before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped > calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. > **** > **** > I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I > posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some > recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs > during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s > Thrush doing that.**** > **** > Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving > nocturnal flight call” at: > http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation**** > **** > Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than > what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what > I am used to hearing at night.**** > **** > Jeff Wells**** > Gardiner, Maine**** > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > > > > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > > > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg <kvr2 AT cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:44:21 +0000 Man, we're old! Although the CDRom is the way to go for learning and studying, it was Bill's careful narrative and logic that helped to solidify these calls in your brain. Look for this ancient medium on eBay. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Bill Evans wrote: As a reflection on Steve Jobs passing, I posted the cover of the "Nocturnal Flight Calls of Migrating Thrushes" cassette tape to the Facebook nocturnal flight calls group last week. The pic, included here, was made in Minneapolis on a friend's Apple MacIntosh Plus computer in 1986. The "thrush tape" was completed in 1989 and offered to birders via the the classified adds of ABA's "Winging It" bulletin in early 1990. As I recall, the tape sold for $15 and over 400 were produced. Most of the tracks were duplicated on the Flight Calls CDRom. ~Bill E ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg To: Jeff Wells Cc: NFC-L Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such a great tape! Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well but I could never record it..... Fun stuff! Jeff Jeff Wells International Boreal Conservation Campaign Boreal Songbird Initiative On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" > wrote: Jeff et al. I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. Jeff Wells Gardiner, Maine -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: "Bill Evans" <wrevans AT clarityconnect.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:48:25 -0400 As a reflection on Steve Jobs passing, I posted the cover of the "Nocturnal Flight Calls of Migrating Thrushes" cassette tape to the Facebook nocturnal flight calls group last week. The pic, included here, was made in Minneapolis on a friend's Apple MacIntosh Plus computer in 1986. The "thrush tape" was completed in 1989 and offered to birders via the the classified adds of ABA's "Winging It" bulletin in early 1990. As I recall, the tape sold for $15 and over 400 were produced. Most of the tracks were duplicated on the Flight Calls CDRom. ~Bill E ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg To: Jeff Wells Cc: NFC-L Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such a great tape! Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well but I could never record it..... Fun stuff! Jeff Jeff Wells International Boreal Conservation Campaign Boreal Songbird Initiative On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" wrote: Jeff et al. I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. Jeff Wells Gardiner, Maine -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Andrew Farnsworth <andrew.farnsworth AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:23:38 -0400 Hi all, Interesting thread! My experience with *Catharus*, in general for North, Central and South America, is that species in this genus regularly use what people call the flight calls on the ground, during the day, and certainly in situations outside typical periods of nocturnal migration (of course, no one has a clue about tropical *Catharus* and what even constitutes migration or movement annual and diel timing for those species, so my characterization is immediately biased). I have a recording, filed somewhere, that Marshall Iliff sent to me of an Orange-billed Nightingale-Thrush producing what is presumably a "flight call" type vocalization. I've heard similar calls from Russet and Spotted Nightingale-Thrushes as well. Re: North American species --- it's always seemed to me that Hermit Thrush uses "flight calls" much more frequently on the ground in non-breeding/wintering locations than other species, though I've heard Swainson's Thrush give "flight calls" in Ecuador in the winter on several occasions and Bicknell's give a "flight call" in Cuba (once). I'd be interested to hear from anyone with Veery/Gray-cheeked experience from South America during winter to know if people have heard "flight calls" on the ground there. Regarding the thrush recordings from many years ago - it's worth reviewing the clips (over and over is a good idea) contained on Bill and Michael's CD-ROM, which you should all have anyway! It's easier to navigate than this thing you call "tape," Ken. Is that like a "record?" :) Best, Andrew On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:20, Magnus Robb wrote: > I've noticed that in Common Blackbirds Turdus merula, the 'flight call' is also given in a specific context when a presumed migrant or wintering bird is on the ground. If my interpretation was correct, these were migrants aware that they were on another, apparently resident Blackbird's territory and making clear that they had no aggressive intentions. They didn't necessarily fly away very soon afterwards, but they seemed to be tolerated by the territory holders, up to a point. > > It always reminded me of people who stop their car where they know they shouldn't and leave their hazard lights flashing to say 'I'll be off in a minute or two, honest!'. > > Magnus Robb > > > On 12 Oct 2011, at 16:06:01, Christopher Heckscher wrote: > >> This is a very interesting question indeed. I've spent many years studying Veery calls. A call will be used in multiple contexts if the accomplishment of that call is warranted in a give social context. So, a Veery call will be used in flight and on the ground if the accomplishment (or function) is appropriate for the given social context. The flight call is simply a call that can function appropriately both in the air during migration and in a forest. Very little is known about calling behavior of South American Catharus but they probably have comparable call repertoires. >> >> >> Christopher M. Heckscher, Ph.D. >> Assistant Professor, Environmental Science & Ecology >> Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources >> Delaware State University >> 1200 N. DuPont Highway >> Dover, DE 19901 >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: bounce-38143835-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu [ bounce-38143835-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jesse Ellis [ calocitta8 AT gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:49 AM >> To: NFC-L >> Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground >> >> Seems like all the North American Catharus do this, no? I'm pretty sure I've heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting question, then, would be whether Central and S. American Catharus have such calls.... >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg < kvr2 AT cornell.edu> wrote: >> I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! >> >> KEN >> >> >> Ken Rosenberg >> Conservation Science Program >> Cornell Lab of Ornithology >> 607-254-2412 >> 607-342-4594 (cell) >> kvr2 AT cornell.edu >> >> On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: >> >> Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such a great tape! >> >> Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well but I could never record it..... >> >> Fun stuff! >> >> Jeff >> >> Jeff Wells >> International Boreal Conservation Campaign >> Boreal Songbird Initiative >> >> >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" > wrote: >> >> Jeff et al. >> >> I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. >> >> KEN >> >> >> Ken Rosenberg >> Conservation Science Program >> Cornell Lab of Ornithology >> 607-254-2412 >> 607-342-4594 (cell) >> kvr2 AT cornell.edu >> >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: >> >> Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. >> >> I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. >> >> Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation >> >> Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. >> >> Jeff Wells >> Gardiner, Maine >> -- >> NFC-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave< http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive< http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- >> >> >> -- >> NFC-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave< http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive< http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- >> >> >> >> -- >> Jesse Ellis >> Post-doctoral Researcher >> Dept. of Zoology >> University of Wisconsin - Madison >> Madison, Dane Co, WI >> -- >> NFC-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave< http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive< http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- >> >> >> -- >> >> NFC-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> > > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: RE: Spectrogram Catalog From: Greg Budney <gfb3 AT cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:34:10 +0000 Christina, The Macaulay Library has sonograms for every recording playable online, currently over 100,000 recordings. When one performs an online search and a list of audio recordings are returned, to the right and slightly below each catalog number are two blue play buttons. Use of the right button will result in a scrolling sonogram displaying as the audio plays. A free downloadable plug-in is required for this functionality (for download instructions see RavenViewer under the Help section at the Macaulay Library website ). Greg Budney ________________________________ From: bounce-38143468-10071469 AT list.cornell.edu [bounce-38143468-10071469 AT list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Christina Kisiel [ckisiel AT hughes.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:57 AM To: NFC-L Subject: [nfc-l] Spectrogram Catalog I hesitate to ask this, since I am afraid the answer is obvious, but I will risk it anyway :) Is there a (free) online resource that shows spectrograms for all bird species - not just their night flight calls, but songs, etc.? I've looked around a bit online but have not found anything comprehensive yet. If not online, what are your suggestions for something to purchase? It looks like Thayer's V4 has spectrograms. Thanks in advance, chris Christina Kisiel Endangered and Nongame Species Program NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife 2201 County Route 631 Woodbine, NJ 08270 p.609.628.1919 f. 609.628.2734 ----- Original Message ----- From: David La Puma To: nfc-l AT cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:01 PM Subject: [nfc-l] weBIRD anyone heard of weBIRD (Wisconsin Electronic Bird Identification Resource Database)? Check out this article describing it: http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882 cheers David ________________________ David A. 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If my interpretation was correct, these were migrants aware that they were on another, apparently resident Blackbird's territory and making clear that they had no aggressive intentions. They didn't necessarily fly away very soon afterwards, but they seemed to be tolerated by the territory holders, up to a point. It always reminded me of people who stop their car where they know they shouldn't and leave their hazard lights flashing to say 'I'll be off in a minute or two, honest!'. Magnus Robb On 12 Oct 2011, at 16:06:01, Christopher Heckscher wrote: > This is a very interesting question indeed. I've spent many years studying Veery calls. A call will be used in multiple contexts if the accomplishment of that call is warranted in a give social context. So, a Veery call will be used in flight and on the ground if the accomplishment (or function) is appropriate for the given social context. The flight call is simply a call that can function appropriately both in the air during migration and in a forest. Very little is known about calling behavior of South American Catharus but they probably have comparable call repertoires. > > > Christopher M. Heckscher, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor, Environmental Science & Ecology > Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources > Delaware State University > 1200 N. DuPont Highway > Dover, DE 19901 > > > > ________________________________ > From: bounce-38143835-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu [bounce-38143835-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jesse Ellis [calocitta8 AT gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:49 AM > To: NFC-L > Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground > > Seems like all the North American Catharus do this, no? I'm pretty sure I've heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting question, then, would be whether Central and S. American Catharus have such calls.... > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg > wrote: > I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: > > Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such a great tape! > > Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well but I could never record it..... > > Fun stuff! > > Jeff > > Jeff Wells > International Boreal Conservation Campaign > Boreal Songbird Initiative > > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" > wrote: > > Jeff et al. > > I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: > > Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. > > I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. > > Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation > > Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. > > Jeff Wells > Gardiner, Maine > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- > > > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- > > > > -- > Jesse Ellis > Post-doctoral Researcher > Dept. of Zoology > University of Wisconsin - Madison > Madison, Dane Co, WI > -- > NFC-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- > > > -- > > NFC-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: RE: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Christopher Heckscher <checkscher AT desu.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:06:01 -0400 This is a very interesting question indeed. I've spent many years studying Veery calls. A call will be used in multiple contexts if the accomplishment of that call is warranted in a give social context. So, a Veery call will be used in flight and on the ground if the accomplishment (or function) is appropriate for the given social context. The flight call is simply a call that can function appropriately both in the air during migration and in a forest. Very little is known about calling behavior of South American Catharus but they probably have comparable call repertoires. Christopher M. Heckscher, Ph.D. Assistant Professor, Environmental Science & Ecology Department of Agriculture and Natural Resources Delaware State University 1200 N. DuPont Highway Dover, DE 19901 ________________________________ From: bounce-38143835-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu [bounce-38143835-10105118 AT list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jesse Ellis [calocitta8 AT gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:49 AM To: NFC-L Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground Seems like all the North American Catharus do this, no? I'm pretty sure I've heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting question, then, would be whether Central and S. American Catharus have such calls.... On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg > wrote: I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such a great tape! Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well but I could never record it..... Fun stuff! Jeff Jeff Wells International Boreal Conservation Campaign Boreal Songbird Initiative On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" > wrote: Jeff et al. I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. Jeff Wells Gardiner, Maine -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Jesse Ellis Post-doctoral Researcher Dept. of Zoology University of Wisconsin - Madison Madison, Dane Co, WI -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg <kvr2 AT cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:02:02 +0000 they do have short, harmonic, call notes given while perched (at least some species I am familiar with) -- whether these are ever given in flight I do not know. And then there is the possibility of elevational or short-distance migrations or movements in some species. Plus, a number of South American Turdus are migratory (Austral migrants) -- I wonder if there are flight notes known for these species? fascinating questions! KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Jesse Ellis wrote: Seems like all the North American Catharus do this, no? I'm pretty sure I've heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting question, then, would be whether Central and S. American Catharus have such calls.... On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg > wrote: I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such a great tape! Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well but I could never record it..... Fun stuff! Jeff Jeff Wells International Boreal Conservation Campaign Boreal Songbird Initiative On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" > wrote: Jeff et al. I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. Jeff Wells Gardiner, Maine -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Jesse Ellis Post-doctoral Researcher Dept. of Zoology University of Wisconsin - Madison Madison, Dane Co, WI -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Jesse Ellis <calocitta8 AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:49:16 -0500 Seems like all the North American *Catharus* do this, no? I'm pretty sure I've heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting question, then, would be whether Central and S. American *Catharus* have such calls.... On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg wrote: > I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is > referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer > for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: > > Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am > remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the > breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was > such a great tape! > > Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as > well but I could never record it..... > > Fun stuff! > > Jeff > > Jeff Wells > International Boreal Conservation Campaign > Boreal Songbird Initiative > > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" > wrote: > > Jeff et al. > > I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the > ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with > "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and > Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I > believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all > the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts > during the day and visually confirmed. > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: > > Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine > watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began > hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. > Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” > nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my > recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the > street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight > call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller > tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit > before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped > calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. > **** > ** ** > I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I > posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some > recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs > during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s > Thrush doing that.**** > ** ** > Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving > nocturnal flight call” at: > http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation**** > ** ** > Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than > what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what > I am used to hearing at night.**** > ** ** > Jeff Wells**** > Gardiner, Maine**** > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > > > > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- Jesse Ellis Post-doctoral Researcher Dept. of Zoology University of Wisconsin - Madison Madison, Dane Co, WI -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg <kvr2 AT cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:21:46 +0000 I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer for learning the basic thrushes, and lot of us got started with that tape! KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such a great tape! Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well but I could never record it..... Fun stuff! Jeff Jeff Wells International Boreal Conservation Campaign Boreal Songbird Initiative On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" > wrote: Jeff et al. I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. Jeff Wells Gardiner, Maine -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re:weBIRD From: David La Puma <woodcreeper AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:20:38 -0400 so either none of you (us) have heard of this, or my initial email was so vague that you didn't want to click on the link. Basically it looks like Mark Berres at U Wisconsin has developed an app that can template-match recorded bird song against a server-side database to achieve real-time identification of birds in the field. It looks like he is limiting it to birds of Wisconsin so far, and from the Google Code page it looks like it's up to 10 species (http://code.google.com/p/webird/) although that page hasn't been updated since early August. Anyway, seems interesting! Cheers David ________________________ David A. La Puma Postdoctoral Associate New Jersey Audubon Society 600 Route 47 North Cape May Court House, NJ 08210 Office: 609.861.1608 x33 Fax: 609.861.1651 Teaching/Research Profile: http://www.woodcreeper.com/teaching Websites: http://www.woodcreeper.com http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodcreeper On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:01 PM, David La Puma wrote: > anyone heard of weBIRD (Wisconsin Electronic Bird Identification Resource > Database)? > > Check out this article describing it: http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882 > > cheers > > David > ________________________ > > David A. La Puma > Postdoctoral Associate > New Jersey Audubon Society > 600 Route 47 North > Cape May Court House, NJ 08210 > Office: 609.861.1608 x33 > Fax: 609.861.1651 > > Teaching/Research Profile: > http://www.woodcreeper.com/teaching > > Websites: > http://www.woodcreeper.com > http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com > > Photos: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodcreeper > > > > > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Spectrogram Catalog From: Laurent Fournier <poecile.cinctus AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:07:47 -0400 Christina Xeno Canto is one. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Christina Kisiel wrote: > ** > I hesitate to ask this, since I am afraid the answer is obvious, but I will > risk it anyway :) > > Is there a (free) online resource that shows spectrograms for all bird > species - not just their night flight calls, but songs, etc.? I've looked > around a bit online but have not found anything comprehensive yet. If not > online, what are your suggestions for something to purchase? It looks like > Thayer's V4 has spectrograms. > > Thanks in advance, > chris > > Christina Kisiel > Endangered and Nongame Species Program > NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife > 2201 County Route 631 > Woodbine, NJ 08270 > > p.609.628.1919 > f. 609.628.2734 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David La Puma > *To:* nfc-l AT cornell.edu > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:01 PM > *Subject:* [nfc-l] weBIRD > > anyone heard of weBIRD (Wisconsin Electronic Bird Identification Resource > Database)? > > Check out this article describing it: http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882 > > cheers > > David > ________________________ > > David A. La Puma > Postdoctoral Associate > New Jersey Audubon Society > 600 Route 47 North > Cape May Court House, NJ 08210 > Office: 609.861.1608 x33 > Fax: 609.861.1651 > > Teaching/Research Profile: > http://www.woodcreeper.com/teaching > > Websites: > http://www.woodcreeper.com > http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com > > Photos: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodcreeper > > > > > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Spectrogram Catalog From: Christina Kisiel <ckisiel AT hughes.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:57:52 -0400 I hesitate to ask this, since I am afraid the answer is obvious, but I will risk it anyway :) Is there a (free) online resource that shows spectrograms for all bird species - not just their night flight calls, but songs, etc.? I've looked around a bit online but have not found anything comprehensive yet. If not online, what are your suggestions for something to purchase? It looks like Thayer's V4 has spectrograms. Thanks in advance, chris Christina Kisiel Endangered and Nongame Species Program NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife 2201 County Route 631 Woodbine, NJ 08270 p.609.628.1919 f. 609.628.2734 ----- Original Message ----- From: David La Puma To: nfc-l AT cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:01 PM Subject: [nfc-l] weBIRD anyone heard of weBIRD (Wisconsin Electronic Bird Identification Resource Database)? Check out this article describing it: http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882 cheers David ________________________ David A. La Puma Postdoctoral Associate New Jersey Audubon Society 600 Route 47 North Cape May Court House, NJ 08210 Office: 609.861.1608 x33 Fax: 609.861.1651 Teaching/Research Profile: http://www.woodcreeper.com/teaching Websites: http://www.woodcreeper.com http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodcreeper -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: "Jeff Wells" <jwells AT intlboreal.org> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:38:26 -0400 Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was such a great tape! Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as well but I could never record it..... Fun stuff! Jeff Jeff Wells International Boreal Conservation Campaign Boreal Songbird Initiative On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" wrote: > Jeff et al. > > I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. > > KEN > > > Ken Rosenberg > Conservation Science Program > Cornell Lab of Ornithology > 607-254-2412 > 607-342-4594 (cell) > kvr2 AT cornell.edu > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: > >> Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. >> >> I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. >> >> Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation >> >> Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. >> >> Jeff Wells >> Gardiner, Maine >> -- >> NFC-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg <kvr2 AT cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:46:43 +0000 Jeff et al. I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts during the day and visually confirmed. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) kvr2 AT cornell.edu On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote: Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard. Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee” nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s Thrush doing that. Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call” at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. Jeff Wells Gardiner, Maine -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: weBIRD From: David La Puma <woodcreeper AT gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:01:02 -0400 anyone heard of weBIRD (Wisconsin Electronic Bird Identification Resource Database)? Check out this article describing it: http://www.news.wisc.edu/19882 cheers David ________________________ David A. La Puma Postdoctoral Associate New Jersey Audubon Society 600 Route 47 North Cape May Court House, NJ 08210 Office: 609.861.1608 x33 Fax: 609.861.1651 Teaching/Research Profile: http://www.woodcreeper.com/teaching Websites: http://www.woodcreeper.com http://badbirdz2.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/woodcreeper -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground From: Jeff Wells <jwells AT intlboreal.org> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:09:41 -0700 Yesterday morning I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began hearing the "chuck" call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor's backyard. Soon it began alternating between the "chuck" call and the drawn-out "whee" nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight call with no more of the "chuck" call and then it moved to another taller tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again. I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson's Thrush doing that. Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled "Hermit Thrush giving nocturnal flight call" at: http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what I am used to hearing at night. Jeff Wells Gardiner, Maine -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Night Flight - Battle Ground, WA From: Jim Danzenbaker <jdanzenbaker AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:37:15 -0700 Hi Jay and NFCers, Like Jay, I was socked in with rain this morning - very dismal throughout the day although I saw birds slowly emerge out of the gloomy overcast. Surprisingly, I didn't here a single peep, zeep, chip, whzurrrr, or blurp overnight which I thought was strange. Every night I hear something flying over....... Jay's synopsis and description of Varied Thrush migration calls (nocturnal and diurnal) are right on the money. I usually hear them for about two hours after dawn but hardly ever at night. That's why hearing them early in the morning (1 1/4 hours before daylight) of Oct 6 was so strange (they call pre-dawn in Spring). They were probably flying over and calling earlier than that but I was asleep and I don't have any recording equipment. From the soggy northwest.... Jim -- Jim Danzenbaker Battle Ground, WA 360-723-0345 jdanzenbaker AT gmail.com On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Jay Withgott wrote: > ** > > Gerard -- > > Since Jim is undoubtedly enjoying a flood of migrants this morning after > what has apparently been the heaviest migration night of the season, while > I'm socked in with rain 25 miles south of him, I'll go ahead and respond.... > > Varied Thrushes give a flight call very much like the lovely iconic song > that reverberates through the PNW rainforests -- that ethereal combination > of a whistle and a vibratory hum. However, the call in flight is generally > a shorter and throatier version of that vocalization, more of a guttural > "whzurrrr" than a long thin "whhzzzzeeeeeee". This call is also heard on > the ground. I've heard this call from birds in flight at night, at dawn, > and after daylight. They seem to me to call more at dawn and after dawn > than at night, but then that may simply be a function of when I'm most often > listening. Jim's more nocturnally active than I am, so I certainly trust > his judgment on this. Like Robins, Varied Thrushes continue their nocturnal > migration for sometimes up to a few hours in the morning, so it is feasible > to see them as they migrate over, occasionally calling. > > I've never heard their Hermit-Thrush-like "chuck" or "tuk" call note used > in flight. > > Jim, any comments on the above? I'm hoping that you've gotten a flood of > birds over your yard last night and this morning and that the rain clears up > a bit down my way so that I can partake, too. > > Jay Withgott > Portland, Oregon > > > > At 8:43 AM -0400 10/7/11, SLIMBIRD Gerard wrote: > > Jim, > > >From an Eastern perspective, I'm curious (ok really interested!) to know > the call Varied Thrush use at night, and/or how you're identifying them? > > I also add a hearty thanks to everyone sharing their experience of flight > calls to the list, especially if/when supported with clips etc. It's always > enlightening! > > Thanks, > > Gerard > > Eastern Ontario > > > On 10/6/11 9:00 PM, "Jim Danzenbaker" wrote: > > Nocturnal flight enthusiasts, > > I live in Battle Ground, Washington which is 20 miles due north of > Portland, Oregon. I've been listening for about 6 years - mostly Swainson's > Thrushes which can number in the thousands on some nights in September. I > was listening from 5:45-7 this morning and had a good variety although > not many individuals: > > Varied Thrush 21* > Hermit Thrush 1 > Swainson's Thrush 3 > *Zonotrichia* 1 > Song Sparrow 1 > Yellow-rumped Warbler 1 > misc chips 8 > > * this is only the third time I've heard nocturnal migrant Varied Thrushes > and only single birds on the other two occasions. > > Conditions were overcast with calm winds which was a big change from the > south winds and rainy conditions of the last several nights. > > Jim > > > -- > > *NFC-L List Info:* > > Welcome and Basics > > Rules and Information > > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > > *Archives:* > > The Mail Archive > > Surfbirds > > BirdingOnThe.Net > > *Please submit your observations to* *eBird* > *!* > > -- > > > -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- Subject: Re: Dickcissels - Etna, NY From: Samuel Galick <sam.galick AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:09:49 -0400 Chris, In costal Cape May a good Morning Flight can produce a dozen or so birds, mostly by themselves, sometimes with Boblinks. A hundred or more should be heard passing Cape May in a fall season if the observer is listening at night too. They're detected here until Nov with one or two wintering at a feeder with House Sparrows. Best, Sam On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes wrote: > This morning, I recorded my fourth DICKCISSEL over Etna, NY in the past > seven nights. This particular flight call was the best yet.**** > > ** ** > > I have uploaded an audio clip of the Dickcissel from this morning (at 2:47 > AM), as well as a spectrogram frame-grab, showing the characteristics of > this flight call. These can be accessed by going to these links:**** > > ** ** > > Audio:**** > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/111007.024749_DICKCISSEL_Etna_NY.wav**** > > ** ** > > Image:**** > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/111007.024749_DICKCISSEL_Etna_NY.jpg**** > > ** ** > > Note, the audio file is five seconds in duration, with the flight call > occurring at approximately 2 ˝ seconds into the clip.**** > > ** ** > > This particular call consisted of five distinct note peaks and with a > single fainter introductory and closing note, for a total of seven > identifiable peaks.**** > > ** ** > > I simply didn’t expect to detect anything on the recording from last night, > given how quiet it was, let alone get something as good as a (another!) > Dickcissel flight note.**** > > ** ** > > One question I have is about the relative abundance of this species: Is > this a particularly good year for them in the Northeast? Did they have a > fabulous breeding season in the Midwest? Did a particular weather pattern > over the past week or so cause them to migrate up into Canada or up to the > Great Lakes, East, then down South from there? Or, are they a more typical > night migrant through Upstate/Central New York than we give them credit for? > **** > > ** ** > > Thanks and good night listening!**** > > > Sincerely, > Chris T-H**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > --**** > > Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes**** > > TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer**** > > Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology**** > > 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850**** > > W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132**** > > http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > -- > *NFC-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > *Archives:* > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > *Please submit your observations to eBird > !* > -- > -- Sam Galick Cape May, NJ sam.galick AT gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/sgalick/ -- NFC-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_WELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC_RULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l AT cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NFCL.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --