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["active.boy59 AT gmail.com" ] 29 Jan Re: origin of Great Black-backed x Herring Gull hybrids [Richard Heil ] 29 Jan Re: origin of Great Black-backed x Herring Gull hybrids [Richard Heil ] 29 Jan origin of Great Black-backed x Herring Gull hybrids [Tom Johnson ] 19 Dec Re: recent Willow Ptarmigan records in Lower 48 [Angus Wilson ] 19 Dec recent Willow Ptarmigan records in Lower 48 ["Paul L." ] 19 Dec NY Willow Ptarmigan record [Kevin McGowan ] 18 Dec Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 18 Dec Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States [CNYBirder ] 14 Nov Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) [] 14 Nov Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) [] 14 Nov Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) ["Rick Wright" ] 14 Nov Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) [Rich Hoyer ] 14 Nov Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) ["Rick Wright" ] 14 Nov Re: The Pyrrholoxia and those spouting off about "patterns" [] 13 Nov Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia [Rich Hoyer ] 13 Nov Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia [flammowl ] 12 Nov Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia ["Geoffrey A. Williamson" ] 12 Nov Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia [] 12 Nov elaenia? ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 12 Nov Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia ["Michael Andersen" ] 12 Nov Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia [] 12 Nov Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia [Rich Hoyer ] 26 Oct Red-bellied Woodpeckers on the move in the Northeast? [D Lovitch ] 15 Oct Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 15 Oct Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? [JB Churchill ] 15 Oct Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? ["Tom Johnson" ] 22 Sep Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 22 Sep Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? ["Geoffrey A. Williamson" ] 22 Sep Frigatebirds from Ike? ["Tom Johnson" ] 8 Sep dealing with spam... ["Thomas B. Johnson" ] 8 Sep Debra Messing Covered Up [madalynhayman1965 ] 8 Sep Jessica Simpson Bikini Top [sachaonderdonk3117 ] Subject: Want to Make some extra cash $200+ Daily? From: syreeta Heatherington <shirlyfsremx847 AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:30:56 -0700 (PDT) You will get paid $20.00 for every email you process online. Our program requires only basic computer skills and can be done wherever you have access to the Internet. http://processemailonline.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. 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To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: list cancellation From: Nick Bonomo <nbonomo AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:11:21 -0400 This is too bad. I guess we missed the boat. I wish I had gotten more involved because I love this stuff, though admittedly I would probably be asking more questions than answering...and as Greg suggested my posts would probably concern southern New England 90% of the time. I'm surprised more real-time or seasonal-appropriate discussions haven't taken place here. I have this sort of conversation all the time with birders around here. Julian Hough and I were discussing today how Swainson's Hawks might be more likely at coastal NE hawkwatches during October rather than during the big September Broad-wing push (Greg, you first brought that to my attention). We were also talking about the bimodal peak of Say's Phoebes in the northeast (Sept and again late fall) and how it's amazing that Connecticut hasn't had a friggin' record since 1916 (I kid you not) despite annual reports from neighboring states. Anyway, it's these sorts of mini-discussions I find fascinating, but again are rather local and maybe not of interest to most folks on this list. But hey, I'm game to hear about Cook's Petrels off the left coast too.... Nick Bonomo Orange, CT http://shorebirder.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Michael G. Harvey wrote: > Greg (and NABD with permission), > > Thanks for the note. I agree that knowledge of bird distribution on a fine > scale is very regionalized, with everyone having a handle on their own area > but few people with broad enough geographic experience to put things into > context and see the larger patterns. I think the lack of accuracy in most > modern field guide maps is just one unfortunate side effect of this > situation. If anything this should make any sort of forum for interchange of > ideas more necessary. You may be right that the printed word is a better > outlet for these sorts of discussions, but the possibility of monitoring and > discussing the patterns and causes of a fall influx of Cave Swallows or a > Northern Wheatear "invasion" in real time I find hard to resist. > Publicly-accessible databases like eBird now put the data into the hands of > the masses as it is collected, but what is really lacking is a group of > people to interpret and synthesize that data as it becomes available. North > American Birds works and has worked in the past because compiling and > processing data was a long process. With data presently available almost > instantaneously, I think its only a matter of time before a more timely and > dynamic forum for discussion and synthesis (be it a listserve, an online > publication, the eBird website itself...) arises. > > Mike Harvey > mgh272 AT gmail.com > > > 2009/9/23 Greg Hanisek >> >> I'm very much interested in the topic and was excited when I first found >> out about the list. However, it became apparent to me as it failed to >> generate much interest that expertise in this area tends to be localized, >> much more so than identification. Most of even the most active birders can >> only speak authoritatively about fairly local areas, and much of the info is >> hard-earned over many years of birding and keeping good records. It seems >> like any given point or question tends to be relevant to a small number of >> people, or at least only a small number can address it with any degree of >> authority. >> >> The suggestion that birders read and support North American Birds is an >> excellent one, by the way. Maybe this is one area, at least on a continetal >> scale, where the printed word works better than cyberspace!! >> >> Greg Hanisek >> Waterbuury CT > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: list cancellation From: "Michael G. Harvey" <mgh27 AT cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:23:10 -0400 Greg (and NABD with permission), Thanks for the note. I agree that knowledge of bird distribution on a fine scale is very regionalized, with everyone having a handle on their own area but few people with broad enough geographic experience to put things into context and see the larger patterns. I think the lack of accuracy in most modern field guide maps is just one unfortunate side effect of this situation. If anything this should make any sort of forum for interchange of ideas more necessary. You may be right that the printed word is a better outlet for these sorts of discussions, but the possibility of monitoring and discussing the patterns and causes of a fall influx of Cave Swallows or a Northern Wheatear "invasion" in real time I find hard to resist. Publicly-accessible databases like eBird now put the data into the hands of the masses as it is collected, but what is really lacking is a group of people to interpret and synthesize that data as it becomes available. North American Birds works and has worked in the past because compiling and processing data was a long process. With data presently available almost instantaneously, I think its only a matter of time before a more timely and dynamic forum for discussion and synthesis (be it a listserve, an online publication, the eBird website itself...) arises. Mike Harvey mgh272 AT gmail.com 2009/9/23 Greg Hanisek > I'm very much interested in the topic and was excited when I first found > out about the list. However, it became apparent to me as it failed to > generate much interest that expertise in this area tends to be localized, > much more so than identification. Most of even the most active birders can > only speak authoritatively about fairly local areas, and much of the info is > hard-earned over many years of birding and keeping good records. It seems > like any given point or question tends to be relevant to a small number of > people, or at least only a small number can address it with any degree of > authority. > > The suggestion that birders read and support North American Birds is an > excellent one, by the way. Maybe this is one area, at least on a continetal > scale, where the printed word works better than cyberspace!! > > Greg Hanisek > Waterbuury CT > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. 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To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Where can I find an online anti-virus that doesn't install on your PC? From: saschalennon85327 <saschalennon85327 AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:46:55 -0700 (PDT) >so I've been looking for a good online virus scan I usually use this one http://pmcware.com/freedowns --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Canceling NABD From: Rick Wright <birdaz AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:01:58 -0700 It's shame! Thakns for the good efforts-- rick On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Michael G. Harvey wrote: > NABD subscribers, > > Given the general lack of activity on this list and the annoying amount of > spam being posted, I think canceling this listserve is probably the prudent > thing to do. Barring a strong opposing argument, I'll plan on doing just > that in the next few days. I strongly recommend that readers interested in > distribution and vagrancy in North America subscribe to North American Birds > published by the American Birding Association, and perhaps follow the > Frontiers of Identification listserve for occasional threads related to > these issues. The finer details of bird distribution, movements, and > vagrancy are, in my opinion, still one of the major remaining frontiers in > North American birding and field ornithology and perhaps in the future will > warrant another listserve devoted to discussion of these topics. > > Michael Harvey > mgh272 AT gmail.com > > > > -- Rick Wright Managing Director, WINGS http://wingsbirds.com http://birdaz.com, http://birdaz.com/blog --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. 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If they were working, I could still do a lot with them, so I've been looking for a good online virus scan - but they all try to download a little .exe onto your PC first, and the settings on the PCs won't allow that. Suggestions? Solutions? Links? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Canceling NABD From: "Michael G. 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To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States From: "Greg Hanisek" <ghanisek AT rep-am.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:44:42 -0400 This isn't the first time I've seen that mistake made, believe it or not. Greg Hanisek Waterbury CT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L. P. Retter" To: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: [NABD] Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States Apparently the "bird experts" at the Chicago nature center don't know what a domestic Rock Pigeon looks like. Needless to say, the Willow Ptarmigan report from Chicago today is bogus. Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Michael G. Harvey wrote: > From: Michael G. Harvey > Subject: [NABD] Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States > To: nabirddist AT googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 5:44 PM > Nice! > > > > > By the way, is there any way the admins on this list can > get the spammers ejected, please? Thanks. > > > > > Done, and I apologize for not staying on top of this, > I'll try to restrict new offending addresses in a more > timely manner. > > While I am posting, I'm curious if anyone has comments > on the status of non-breeding Sabine's Gulls in North > America during the breeding season, particularly first-cycle > birds and particularly on the East Coast. Traditionally I > believe Sabine's Gulls were thought to remain on or near > the wintering grounds in the Southern Hemisphere through at > least the first northern breeding season (cf. Grant, Gulls - > a guide to identification, 1986 and Olsen and Larsson, Gulls > of North America, Europe, and Asia, 2003). Howell and Dunn > (Gulls of the Americas, 2007) if I remember correctly > mention that these first-cycle non-breeders regularly make > it north to the latitudes of California in the eastern > Pacific in June/July. I have yet to do a search of the North > American Birds archives or other potential sources, but I > wonder if anyone is aware of any precedent for a similar > phenomenon in the Atlantic? > > > I ask because an apparent first-cycle bird was present (and > well-photographed) in coastal New Hampshire this summer > between 26 June and at least 26 July. I'm planning on > writing up a short piece in New Hampshire Bird Records > reviewing the status of the species in the state (only 6 > records, 5 of them offshore during typical August-September > window of fall migration) and putting this unusual record in > context. Any thoughts appreciated... > > > Michael Harvey > Ithaca, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States From: Rick Wright <birdaz AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:34:00 -0700 Alas. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Michael L. P. Retter wrote: > > Apparently the "bird experts" at the Chicago nature center don't know what > a domestic Rock Pigeon looks like. Needless to say, the Willow Ptarmigan > report from Chicago today is bogus. > > > Michael L. P. Retter > --------------------------------- > W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN > mlretter AT yahoo.com > home: 765.838.3152 > cell: 309.824.7317 > http://xenospiza.com/ > > Tour Leader, Tropical Birding > http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ > ----------------------------------- > > > --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Michael G. Harvey wrote: > > > From: Michael G. Harvey > > Subject: [NABD] Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States > > To: nabirddist AT googlegroups.com > > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 5:44 PM > > Nice! > > > > > > > > > > By the way, is there any way the admins on this list can > > get the spammers ejected, please? Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Done, and I apologize for not staying on top of this, > > I'll try to restrict new offending addresses in a more > > timely manner. > > > > While I am posting, I'm curious if anyone has comments > > on the status of non-breeding Sabine's Gulls in North > > America during the breeding season, particularly first-cycle > > birds and particularly on the East Coast. Traditionally I > > believe Sabine's Gulls were thought to remain on or near > > the wintering grounds in the Southern Hemisphere through at > > least the first northern breeding season (cf. Grant, Gulls - > > a guide to identification, 1986 and Olsen and Larsson, Gulls > > of North America, Europe, and Asia, 2003). Howell and Dunn > > (Gulls of the Americas, 2007) if I remember correctly > > mention that these first-cycle non-breeders regularly make > > it north to the latitudes of California in the eastern > > Pacific in June/July. I have yet to do a search of the North > > American Birds archives or other potential sources, but I > > wonder if anyone is aware of any precedent for a similar > > phenomenon in the Atlantic? > > > > > > I ask because an apparent first-cycle bird was present (and > > well-photographed) in coastal New Hampshire this summer > > between 26 June and at least 26 July. I'm planning on > > writing up a short piece in New Hampshire Bird Records > > reviewing the status of the species in the state (only 6 > > records, 5 of them offshore during typical August-September > > window of fall migration) and putting this unusual record in > > context. Any thoughts appreciated... > > > > > > Michael Harvey > > Ithaca, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Rick Wright Managing Director, WINGS http://wingsbirds.com http://birdaz.com, http://birdaz.com/blog --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Apparently the "bird experts" at the Chicago nature center don't know what a domestic Rock Pigeon looks like. Needless to say, the Willow Ptarmigan report from Chicago today is bogus. Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Michael G. Harvey wrote: > From: Michael G. Harvey > Subject: [NABD] Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States > To: nabirddist AT googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 5:44 PM > Nice! > > > > > By the way, is there any way the admins on this list can > get the spammers ejected, please?  Thanks. > > > > > Done, and I apologize for not staying on top of this, > I'll try to restrict new offending addresses in a more > timely manner. > > While I am posting, I'm curious if anyone has comments > on the status of non-breeding Sabine's Gulls in North > America during the breeding season, particularly first-cycle > birds and particularly on the East Coast. Traditionally I > believe Sabine's Gulls were thought to remain on or near > the wintering grounds in the Southern Hemisphere through at > least the first northern breeding season (cf. Grant, Gulls - > a guide to identification, 1986 and Olsen and Larsson, Gulls > of North America, Europe, and Asia, 2003). Howell and Dunn > (Gulls of the Americas, 2007) if I remember correctly > mention that these first-cycle non-breeders regularly make > it north to the latitudes of California in the eastern > Pacific in June/July. I have yet to do a search of the North > American Birds archives or other potential sources, but I > wonder if anyone is aware of any precedent for a similar > phenomenon in the Atlantic? > > > I ask because an apparent first-cycle bird was present (and > well-photographed) in coastal New Hampshire this summer > between 26 June and at least 26 July. I'm planning on > writing up a short piece in New Hampshire Bird Records > reviewing the status of the species in the state (only 6 > records, 5 of them offshore during typical August-September > window of fall migration) and putting this unusual record in > context. Any thoughts appreciated... > > > Michael Harvey > Ithaca, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States From: "Michael G. Harvey" <mgh27 AT cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:44:37 -0400 Nice! > By the way, is there any way the admins on this list can get the spammers > ejected, please? Thanks. > > Done, and I apologize for not staying on top of this, I'll try to restrict new offending addresses in a more timely manner. While I am posting, I'm curious if anyone has comments on the status of non-breeding Sabine's Gulls in North America during the breeding season, particularly first-cycle birds and particularly on the East Coast. Traditionally I believe Sabine's Gulls were thought to remain on or near the wintering grounds in the Southern Hemisphere through at least the first northern breeding season (cf. Grant, Gulls - a guide to identification, 1986 and Olsen and Larsson, Gulls of North America, Europe, and Asia, 2003). Howell and Dunn (Gulls of the Americas, 2007) if I remember correctly mention that these first-cycle non-breeders regularly make it north to the latitudes of California in the eastern Pacific in June/July. I have yet to do a search of the North American Birds archives or other potential sources, but I wonder if anyone is aware of any precedent for a similar phenomenon in the Atlantic? I ask because an apparent first-cycle bird was present (and well-photographed) in coastal New Hampshire this summer between 26 June and at least 26 July. I'm planning on writing up a short piece in New Hampshire Bird Records reviewing the status of the species in the state (only 6 records, 5 of them offshore during typical August-September window of fall migration) and putting this unusual record in context. Any thoughts appreciated... Michael Harvey Ithaca, NY --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States From: Rick Wright <birdaz AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:36:13 -0700 Yowza! On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Michael L. P. Retter wrote: > > Thought some of you might be interested in this, which appeared on IBET > today. > > "At 12:15 or so today (9/11/09) somoeone called into Chicago's North Park > Village Nature Center and then sent them three photos of a molting Willow > Ptarmigan, sitting on a garage roof in the 4900 block of N. Kostner Ave. in > Chicago. The bird then freely flew away. I do not yet have permission to > post a link to the photos; if I get permission I'll post an email with the > link." > > By the way, is there any way the admins on this list can get the spammers > ejected, please? Thanks. > > Good birding, > > Michael L. P. Retter > --------------------------------- > W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN > mlretter AT yahoo.com > home: 765.838.3152 > cell: 309.824.7317 > http://xenospiza.com/ > > Tour Leader, Tropical Birding > http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ > ----------------------------------- > > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Michael L. P. Retter wrote: > > > From: Michael L. P. Retter > > Subject: Re: [NABD] Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States > > To: NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com > > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 9:43 AM > > Willow Ptarmigan is listed as > > hypothetical in Illinois (Bohlen 1986): > > > > "The only evidence that this bird occurred in Illinois is > > Kennicott's statement (1854) that it was 'sometimes found in > > the timber along Lake Michigan.' It seems rather a wild > > possibility, but two apparently were collected near Racine, > > Wisconsin, in December 1846 (Cory 1909). The breeding area > > closest to Illinois is Hudson Bay, but in winter Willow > > Ptarmigan are known south to the northern Great Lakes area, > > most recently in 1964 in Minnesota (Green and Janssen > > 1975)." > > > > > > Michael L. P. Retter > > --------------------------------- > > W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN > > mlretter AT yahoo.com > > home: 309.277.7136 > > cell: 309.824.7317 > > http://xenospiza.com/ > > > > Tour Leader, Tropical Birding > > http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ > > ----------------------------------- > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, CNYBirder > > wrote: > > > > > From: CNYBirder > > > Subject: [NABD] Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the > > United States > > > To: "North American Bird Distribution" > > > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 7:25 AM > > > > > > Several months ago I was reading through Egbert Bagg's > > list > > > of birds > > > seen in the Oneida County, NY area. I surprised to > > learn > > > that in 1876 > > > a Willow Ptarmigan was collected in Lewis County, NY. > > > Apparently it > > > was examined by Coues. > > > One source even states that lumbermen in Lewis County > > had > > > reported > > > seeing "white partridges" which the author states > > were > > > likely Willow > > > Ptarmigans also. > > > > > > Here is the reference on Google Books (there are > > several > > > other books > > > that mention it): > > > http://tinyurl.com/3k942p > > > > > > I have couple questions that may not have answers. > > > > > > First if this was a record verified by Coues why is > > Willow > > > Ptarmigan > > > not on the New York state checklist (or the Maine > > checklist > > > for that > > > matter)? > > > > > > Second why are there no records such as this in the > > last > > > 100 years? I > > > suspect that this may be due to a decreased population > > to > > > the north of > > > us (but I have no supporting information for this > > theory). > > > Also there > > > are very few birders in northern NY and the > > Adirondacks > > > (especially > > > during the season when Ptarmigans are most likely to > > > vagrate). Anyone > > > have a theory about this? > > > > > > Minnesota of the closest state to have it on the > > checklist > > > (and they > > > have 3 or 4 records I think and 1 for Rock > > Ptarmigan). > > > Michigan has > > > 19th century records but not on the checklist. > > > > > > I am just curious on this and thought perhaps this > > list may > > > be > > > interested. > > > > > > Robbie LaCelle > > > Camden, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Rick Wright Managing Director, WINGS http://wingsbirds.com http://birdaz.com, http://birdaz.com/blog --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Thought some of you might be interested in this, which appeared on IBET today. "At 12:15 or so today (9/11/09) somoeone called into Chicago's North Park Village Nature Center and then sent them three photos of a molting Willow Ptarmigan, sitting on a garage roof in the 4900 block of N. Kostner Ave. in Chicago. The bird then freely flew away. I do not yet have permission to post a link to the photos; if I get permission I'll post an email with the link." By the way, is there any way the admins on this list can get the spammers ejected, please? Thanks. Good birding, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Michael L. P. Retter wrote: > From: Michael L. P. Retter > Subject: Re: [NABD] Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States > To: NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 9:43 AM > Willow Ptarmigan is listed as > hypothetical in Illinois (Bohlen 1986): > > "The only evidence that this bird occurred in Illinois is > Kennicott's statement (1854) that it was 'sometimes found in > the timber along Lake Michigan.' It seems rather a wild > possibility, but two apparently were collected near Racine, > Wisconsin, in December 1846 (Cory 1909). The breeding area > closest to Illinois is Hudson Bay, but in winter Willow > Ptarmigan are known south to the northern Great Lakes area, > most recently in 1964 in Minnesota (Green and Janssen > 1975)." > > > Michael L. P. Retter > --------------------------------- > W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN > mlretter AT yahoo.com > home:  309.277.7136 > cell:  309.824.7317 > http://xenospiza.com/ > > Tour Leader, Tropical Birding > http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ > ----------------------------------- > > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, CNYBirder > wrote: > > > From: CNYBirder > > Subject: [NABD] Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the > United States > > To: "North American Bird Distribution" > > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 7:25 AM > > > > Several months ago I was reading through Egbert Bagg's > list > > of birds > > seen in the Oneida County, NY area. I surprised to > learn > > that in 1876 > > a Willow Ptarmigan was collected in Lewis County, NY. > > Apparently it > > was examined by Coues. > > One source even states that lumbermen in Lewis County > had > > reported > > seeing "white partridges" which the author states > were > > likely Willow > > Ptarmigans also. > > > > Here is the reference on Google Books (there are > several > > other books > > that mention it): > > http://tinyurl.com/3k942p > > > > I have couple questions that may not have answers. > > > > First if this was a record verified by Coues why is > Willow > > Ptarmigan > > not on the New York state checklist (or the Maine > checklist > > for that > > matter)? > > > > Second why are there no records such as this in the > last > > 100 years? I > > suspect that this may be due to a decreased population > to > > the north of > > us (but I have no supporting information for this > theory). > > Also there > > are very few birders in northern NY and the > Adirondacks > > (especially > > during the season when Ptarmigans are most likely to > > vagrate). Anyone > > have a theory about this? > > > > Minnesota of the closest state to have it on the > checklist > > (and they > > have 3 or 4 records I think and 1 for Rock > Ptarmigan). > > Michigan has > > 19th century records but not on the checklist. > > > > I am just curious on this and thought perhaps this > list may > > be > > interested. > > > > Robbie LaCelle > > Camden, NY > > > > > > > > >       > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. 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To post to this group, send email to nabirddist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nabirddist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nabirddist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: white plover From: Kathy in SC <krwoolsey AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:01:38 -0700 (PDT) I was birding yesterday(4/16/09) around 5 pm on Folly Rd, north of Pea Island , tide was just going out , the mud flat was covered with shore birds, dunlins were starting to get their black bellies, and others were changing plumage too. After about 30 minutes and moving my car north, I saw a little white bird among the peeps. It seem to be a semipalmated plover with small pinkish beak and feet, the only color was a smudge of brown on its back. It was with other semipalms so I am pretty sure of the ID. I took a photo with my little Kodak buts it’s not to good. This bird may be heading north so keep a look out for it. Other birds I saw were black bellied plovers, whimbrels, willets, dowitchers, rudy turnstones, dunlins, least. b. pelicans, RT hawk on a utility pole. ( Pea island is located between Folly Island and James Island all just south of Charleston SC) - Kathy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Attractive features... From: "active.boy59 AT gmail.com" <active.boy59@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Attractive features... Go to the following link to view it... -------------------------------------- http://www.freewebs.com/philosophz/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: origin of Great Black-backed x Herring Gull hybrids From: Richard Heil <rsheil AT comcast.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:29:33 -0500 Tom, There are a number of documented records of this hybrid pair for Massachusetts, including several summer records despite the statement in Howell (Gulls of the Americas, 2007) that "hybrids have only been found in winter". While working on a tern reintroduction project on Muskeget Island, MA in 1981, there was an adult GBBG x HERG present in the large gull colony there from May to July, although apparently it was not breeding. The Muskeget hybrid had a very similar primary pattern to your Ithaca bird, including an all white tip on P10. The bird was photographically documented, written up in 'Bird Observer of Eastern Massachusetts (Vol. 11, No.3) and cited in 'Birds of Massachusetts' by Veit & Petersen (1993). Several other Massachusetts sight records are also mentioned in Veit & Petersen, include a few other records outside of winter: Nantucket (Oct. 1979), Plum Island (Aug. 1982), and N. Monomoy (July 1985). Since V & P there have been at least seven sight records of one or more adult GBBG x HERG hybrids from the Lynn-Nahant area north of Boston between 1994 and 2003, including those for May, June, and July (Bird Observer of Eastern Massachusetts database). I think there may be a few more recent Massachusetts records as well. Rick Heil Richard S. Heil S. Peabody, MA rsheil AT comcast.net At 10:05 AM 1/29/2009, Tom Johnson wrote: >Hi, >After seeing a presumed Great Black-backed x Herring Gull the other >day near Ithaca, NY, I was wondering where such hybrids originate. >Since they appear to be fairly rare and always found in winter (?), I >didn't know if they were more likely to originate on the Atlantic >coast where large numbers of both species breed together, or on the >Great Lakes. Locations of winter records alone might suggest Great >Lakes origin; most of the photographs I've seen of presumed GBBG x >HERG (all adults or near adults) come from Lake Erie or Lake Ontario >(in winter). Does anyone know of instances of hybrid pairing in >colonies or have other thoughts as to the origin of these interesting >hybrids? >Here are some photos of the beast from near Ithaca, NY: >http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonxie88/3231238527/ >Cheers, >Tom > >-- >Thomas Brodie Johnson >Ithaca, NY >tbj4 AT cornell.edu >mobile: 717.991.5727 > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: origin of Great Black-backed x Herring Gull hybrids From: Richard Heil <rsheil AT comcast.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:29:33 -0500 Tom, There are a number of documented records of this hybrid pair for Massachusetts, including several summer records despite the statement in Howell (Gulls of the Americas, 2007) that "hybrids have only been found in winter". While working on a tern reintroduction project on Muskeget Island, MA in 1981, there was an adult GBBG x HERG present in the large gull colony there from May to July, although apparently it was not breeding. The Muskeget hybrid had a very similar primary pattern to your Ithaca bird, including an all white tip on P10. The bird was photographically documented, written up in 'Bird Observer of Eastern Massachusetts (Vol. 11, No.3) and cited in 'Birds of Massachusetts' by Veit & Petersen (1993). Several other Massachusetts sight records are also mentioned in Veit & Petersen, include a few other records outside of winter: Nantucket (Oct. 1979), Plum Island (Aug. 1982), and N. Monomoy (July 1985). Since V & P there have been at least seven sight records of one or more adult GBBG x HERG hybrids from the Lynn-Nahant area north of Boston between 1994 and 2003, including those for May, June, and July (Bird Observer of Eastern Massachusetts database). I think there may be a few more recent Massachusetts records as well. Rick Heil Richard S. Heil S. Peabody, MA rsheil AT comcast.net At 10:05 AM 1/29/2009, Tom Johnson wrote: >Hi, >After seeing a presumed Great Black-backed x Herring Gull the other >day near Ithaca, NY, I was wondering where such hybrids originate. >Since they appear to be fairly rare and always found in winter (?), I >didn't know if they were more likely to originate on the Atlantic >coast where large numbers of both species breed together, or on the >Great Lakes. Locations of winter records alone might suggest Great >Lakes origin; most of the photographs I've seen of presumed GBBG x >HERG (all adults or near adults) come from Lake Erie or Lake Ontario >(in winter). Does anyone know of instances of hybrid pairing in >colonies or have other thoughts as to the origin of these interesting >hybrids? >Here are some photos of the beast from near Ithaca, NY: >http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonxie88/3231238527/ >Cheers, >Tom > >-- >Thomas Brodie Johnson >Ithaca, NY >tbj4 AT cornell.edu >mobile: 717.991.5727 > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: origin of Great Black-backed x Herring Gull hybrids From: Tom Johnson <tbj4 AT cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:05:37 -0500 Hi, After seeing a presumed Great Black-backed x Herring Gull the other day near Ithaca, NY, I was wondering where such hybrids originate. Since they appear to be fairly rare and always found in winter (?), I didn't know if they were more likely to originate on the Atlantic coast where large numbers of both species breed together, or on the Great Lakes. Locations of winter records alone might suggest Great Lakes origin; most of the photographs I've seen of presumed GBBG x HERG (all adults or near adults) come from Lake Erie or Lake Ontario (in winter). Does anyone know of instances of hybrid pairing in colonies or have other thoughts as to the origin of these interesting hybrids? Here are some photos of the beast from near Ithaca, NY: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonxie88/3231238527/ Cheers, Tom -- Thomas Brodie Johnson Ithaca, NY tbj4 AT cornell.edu mobile: 717.991.5727 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: recent Willow Ptarmigan records in Lower 48 From: Angus Wilson <gadflypetrel AT hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:54:41 -0500 Perhaps the Willow Ptarmigan that Paul is referring to is 'Willy', who was found on 16 May 2000 on Chebeague Island, Maine. I believe is not too far from Portland, thus southern Maine. Found on 16 May and last seen on 3 June. The full scoop is here: http://www.chebeague.org/bird/ptarmigan.html The web page lists 3 prior records for Maine (23 Apr 1892, 19 May 1951 and 14 May 1977). Angus WilsonNew York City/Springshttp://www.oceanwanderers.com _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: recent Willow Ptarmigan records in Lower 48 From: "Paul L." <lehman.paul AT verizon.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:43:55 -0800 (PST) There was a Willow Ptarmigan photographed in Maine, I believe, some 15+ (?) years ago or so, photo published at the time in American Birds. I still remember the photo, as it was oddly from SPRING, and the bird was still entirely white but surrounded by greeny vegetation. Looked very much out of place! Bet you the bird didn't last long if there were any Goshawks in the neighborhood! --Paul Lehman --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: NY Willow Ptarmigan record From: Kevin McGowan <kjm2 AT cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:17:32 -0500 Bull (1978) explains: "In New York State what was purported to be a male in 'changing plumage," was collected at Watson, Lewis Co., May 22, 1876 (R. Hough). The present whereabouts of this specimen is unknown. Coues (Bull. Nuttall Ornith. Club, 1878, 3:41), who first published this report, did not examine the specimen, nor did any other ornithologist ever see it. As the specimen is unavailable, the possibility of it being an albinistic Spruce Grouse or Ruffed Gropuse cannot be ruled out. Moreover, the May data is suspiciously late for a bird that is casual in winter in southern Canada." Kevin Kevin J. McGowan Ithaca, NY kjm2 AT cornell.edu --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:43:23 -0800 (PST) Willow Ptarmigan is listed as hypothetical in Illinois (Bohlen 1986): "The only evidence that this bird occurred in Illinois is Kennicott's statement (1854) that it was 'sometimes found in the timber along Lake Michigan.' It seems rather a wild possibility, but two apparently were collected near Racine, Wisconsin, in December 1846 (Cory 1909). The breeding area closest to Illinois is Hudson Bay, but in winter Willow Ptarmigan are known south to the northern Great Lakes area, most recently in 1964 in Minnesota (Green and Janssen 1975)." Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 309.277.7136 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- --- On Thu, 12/18/08, CNYBirder wrote: > From: CNYBirder > Subject: [NABD] Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States > To: "North American Bird Distribution" > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 7:25 AM > > Several months ago I was reading through Egbert Bagg's list > of birds > seen in the Oneida County, NY area. I surprised to learn > that in 1876 > a Willow Ptarmigan was collected in Lewis County, NY. > Apparently it > was examined by Coues. > One source even states that lumbermen in Lewis County had > reported > seeing "white partridges" which the author states were > likely Willow > Ptarmigans also. > > Here is the reference on Google Books (there are several > other books > that mention it): > http://tinyurl.com/3k942p > > I have couple questions that may not have answers. > > First if this was a record verified by Coues why is Willow > Ptarmigan > not on the New York state checklist (or the Maine checklist > for that > matter)? > > Second why are there no records such as this in the last > 100 years? I > suspect that this may be due to a decreased population to > the north of > us (but I have no supporting information for this theory). > Also there > are very few birders in northern NY and the Adirondacks > (especially > during the season when Ptarmigans are most likely to > vagrate). Anyone > have a theory about this? > > Minnesota of the closest state to have it on the checklist > (and they > have 3 or 4 records I think and 1 for Rock Ptarmigan). > Michigan has > 19th century records but not on the checklist. > > I am just curious on this and thought perhaps this list may > be > interested. > > Robbie LaCelle > Camden, NY > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Vagrancy of Willow Ptarmigan in the United States From: CNYBirder <thebooksearcher AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:25:09 -0800 (PST) Several months ago I was reading through Egbert Bagg's list of birds seen in the Oneida County, NY area. I surprised to learn that in 1876 a Willow Ptarmigan was collected in Lewis County, NY. Apparently it was examined by Coues. One source even states that lumbermen in Lewis County had reported seeing "white partridges" which the author states were likely Willow Ptarmigans also. Here is the reference on Google Books (there are several other books that mention it): http://tinyurl.com/3k942p I have couple questions that may not have answers. First if this was a record verified by Coues why is Willow Ptarmigan not on the New York state checklist (or the Maine checklist for that matter)? Second why are there no records such as this in the last 100 years? I suspect that this may be due to a decreased population to the north of us (but I have no supporting information for this theory). Also there are very few birders in northern NY and the Adirondacks (especially during the season when Ptarmigans are most likely to vagrate). Anyone have a theory about this? Minnesota of the closest state to have it on the checklist (and they have 3 or 4 records I think and 1 for Rock Ptarmigan). Michigan has 19th century records but not on the checklist. I am just curious on this and thought perhaps this list may be interested. Robbie LaCelle Camden, NY --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) From: sgmlod AT aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:12:58 -0500 And I might add, I know they are illegal in the USA, but that doesn't totally stop the illegal pet trade. How one judges natural vagrancy in such critters is beyond me. Indeed, seemingly impossible. For Verdin, with very little vagrancy pattern, it seemed that a thumbs down was appropriate. PYRR has a nice vagrancy pattern (as does NOCA), but it also has the captivity problem, on purpose, or less likely, accidental. So, ?????? As I recall, sorry at work so can't reference article, it would be nice if their were some records from the n. half of CA. Doesn't mean it did not get here on its own though. Steve, arguing both sides of coin, Mlodinow -----Original Message----- From: Rick Wright To: NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 7:40 am Subject: [NABD] Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) Hm, a bit casuistic, Rich! :) r On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Rich Hoyer wrote: Rick and All, Canyon Towhees are infamous for entering open car doors and even houses. They would unabashedly forage on our living room carpet at the Audubon Ressearch Ranch dorm when I lived there 14 years ago. If fact, it may be the one species from the Southwest that is mostly likely to be accidentally transported. So the lack of extralimital Canyon Towhees from places like Oregon, Montana, and Ontario would certainly argue for natural occurrence of Pyrrhuloxia in such places. Good Birding, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Rick Wright wrote: > Year before last a birder I know slightly claimed to have innocently > transported a Canyon Towhee from Arizona to central Nebraska in a > trailer. So it does happen--but whether inductive arguments are of > any use at all I couldn't say. > Best, > > Rick Wright > Hamilton, NY / Tucson, AZ > > > -- Rick Wright Managing Director, WINGS http://wingsbirds.com http://birdaz.com, http://birdaz.com/blog --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) From: sgmlod AT aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:09:23 -0500 Except no one keeps Canyon Towhees as pets.. or very rarely PYRR is a fairly popular pet, I would guess, much like the NOCAs that showed up in WA's Puget Trough. Steve Mlodinow -----Original Message----- From: Rich Hoyer To: NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 7:35 am Subject: [NABD] Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) Rick and All, Canyon Towhees are infamous for entering open car doors and even houses. They would unabashedly forage on our living room carpet at the Audubon Ressearch Ranch dorm when I lived there 14 years ago. If fact, it may be the one species from the Southwest that is mostly likely to be accidentally transported. So the lack of extralimital Canyon Towhees from places like Oregon, Montana, and Ontario would certainly argue for natural occurrence of Pyrrhuloxia in such places. Good Birding, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Rick Wright wrote: > Year before last a birder I know slightly claimed to have innocently > transported a Canyon Towhee from Arizona to central Nebraska in a > trailer. So it does happen--but whether inductive arguments are of > any use at all I couldn't say. > Best, > > Rick Wright > Hamilton, NY / Tucson, AZ > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) From: "Rick Wright" <birdaz AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:40:02 -0700 Hm, a bit casuistic, Rich! :) r On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Rich Hoyer wrote: > > Rick and All, > > Canyon Towhees are infamous for entering open car doors and even > houses. They would unabashedly forage on our living room carpet at the > Audubon Ressearch Ranch dorm when I lived there 14 years ago. If fact, > it may be the one species from the Southwest that is mostly likely to > be accidentally transported. So the lack of extralimital Canyon > Towhees from places like Oregon, Montana, and Ontario would certainly > argue for natural occurrence of Pyrrhuloxia in such places. > > Good Birding, > > Rich > --- > Rich Hoyer > Tucson, Arizona > > Senior Leader for WINGS > http://wingsbirds.com > --- > > On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Rick Wright wrote: > > > Year before last a birder I know slightly claimed to have innocently > > transported a Canyon Towhee from Arizona to central Nebraska in a > > trailer. So it does happen--but whether inductive arguments are of > > any use at all I couldn't say. > > Best, > > > > Rick Wright > > Hamilton, NY / Tucson, AZ > > > > > > > > > > -- Rick Wright Managing Director, WINGS http://wingsbirds.com http://birdaz.com, http://birdaz.com/blog --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) From: Rich Hoyer <calliope AT theriver.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:35:00 -0700 Rick and All, Canyon Towhees are infamous for entering open car doors and even houses. They would unabashedly forage on our living room carpet at the Audubon Ressearch Ranch dorm when I lived there 14 years ago. If fact, it may be the one species from the Southwest that is mostly likely to be accidentally transported. So the lack of extralimital Canyon Towhees from places like Oregon, Montana, and Ontario would certainly argue for natural occurrence of Pyrrhuloxia in such places. Good Birding, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Rick Wright wrote: > Year before last a birder I know slightly claimed to have innocently > transported a Canyon Towhee from Arizona to central Nebraska in a > trailer. So it does happen--but whether inductive arguments are of > any use at all I couldn't say. > Best, > > Rick Wright > Hamilton, NY / Tucson, AZ > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: transported birds (olim Pyrrhuloxias) From: "Rick Wright" <birdaz AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:22:13 -0700 Year before last a birder I know slightly claimed to have innocently transported a Canyon Towhee from Arizona to central Nebraska in a trailer. So it does happen--but whether inductive arguments are of any use at all I couldn't say. Best, Rick Wright Hamilton, NY / Tucson, AZ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: The Pyrrholoxia and those spouting off about "patterns" From: sgmlod AT aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:11:17 -0500 Hello David (and subscribers to NABD) David, I loved your post, and not just because you mentioned my brother's book. There is another far more plausible route of transportation. Vegetables and fruits are regularly trucked from CA (where there are precious few PYRR) and to a lesser extent, AZ to the Pac NW. These trucks drive straight through, and often get here in less than two days. A PYRR that happened to wander into one of these trucks (for whatever reason, two Wrynecks -- I think it is two; one was found mummified in a shipment in either IL or IN -- have made it to North America, albeit dead, on boats; who knows why the Wryneck went on the boat) might well survive two days, and might even be able to feed on some of the produce contained within. At least that was one of the theories re: how a Verdin made it to the Puget Trough. ON THE OTHER HAND, PYRR do have a pattern of vagrancy that shows some pretty long-distance travel, including over water to the Channel Islands. With birds such as SB Oriole making it to OR, Varied Bunting to ON, etc, the occurrence of a PYRR in OR is not so unbelievable. Finally, the Pac NW has had an unusual impulse of sw. birds this year, as I posted to the listserv earlier (though not to David Irons, but you know the list better than I David). PYRR would just fit into the BC Vireo, probable VCHU, VAFL (that is REALLY from the SW), BEVI (w. race, likely arizonae), etc. In the end, the real question is not how improbable is it that a PYRR made it to w. OR, but how does that probability compare with the probability that the bird was artificially transported. And here we lack sufficient data. We've had enough N Cardinals in the P.T. over the last few years, some of proven captive origin, that I am a bit squeamish. Much meandering thought, no conclusions. Steve Mlodinow -----Original Message----- From: David Irons To: post OBOL ; Steve Mlodinow Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:47 pm Subject: Re: The Pyrrholoxia and those spouting off about "patterns" Greetings All, I have some recommended reading for all those who think that one can take a handful of events and claim that a statistically valid "pattern" is evident.  On many levels, humans are averse to randomness, disorganization, and lack of predictability, thus we often rush to apply explanations and perceived organization to all sorts of random events -- like a Pyrrholoxia showing up in Peoria, OR.  Find yourself a copy of: "The Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives"  The author Leonard Mlodinow, is my good friend and ace birder Steve Mlodinow's older brother.  Len has a doctorate in physics from UC Berkeley, has co-authored multiple books on physics and with Steven Hawking, teaches about randomness at Cal Tech, and is a screen writer.  His book is very readable and makes scientific concepts accessi ble to knuckleheads like me.  It was published earlier this year.  I've read it, and will likely read it again from time to time. Read this book and your outlook on vagrant Pyrrholoxias and many other things you think you can explain will change forever. As it is, we have very little understanding about what factors trigger birds to commence long trans-oceanic or intercontinental migrations. We are also hard-pressed to explain how particular species evolved to take migratory routes that seem crazy and hopelessly impractical from a human point of view.  We know even less about what "causes" a bird to wander far from its usual (known) haunts. Given these realities, it strikes me as rather foolish to try to apply some invented human explanation for how a bird might have arrived at a certain place when we have absolutely zero evidence to support such a theory.  The "train ride" theory offered up earlier requires a whole bunch of variables to have aligned in the bird's favor. 1. One it would have to get on a train -- something that Pyrrholoxias probably don't do very often. 2. It would have to get on a train that was coming from its home range to the Willamette Valley, probably not a very direct route, so we can safely assume that such a trip might take a few days. 3. Pyrrholoxias surely don't survive very long in the absence of food and water, so this rail car would require a supply of both for this bird to have survived the journey. 4. Finally, after spending days on20a train presumably with no predators, a steady supply of food and water, the bird would have to at some point opt to abandon this known situation to re-enter the wild in search of another site with these attributes. Site fidelity among wintering birds is generally high. They will return year after year to a site where they have cover, food supplies, and relative safety from predators. Examining this set of necessary variables (for the bird's survival) the train ride theory suddenly doesn't sound nearly as plausible as a bird making a series of flights across the landscape, something that birds do far more routinely than train travel. Using the normal method of travel, this bird could easily find food and water all along the way. Like all the rest of you, I have no idea how this bird arrived in Peoria. However, I can tell you that the historically hyper-conservative California Bird Records Committee labeled countless rarities with the "original questionable" tag any time they could not find a "pattern" of vagrancy that supported the species in question getting to California without some sort of human assistance. Most notable among these species was Crested Caracara, which occurred many times in Californa before the CBRC began accepting records. Ultimately, there were enough northerly records along the West Coast to create a pattern sufficient for them start accepting the wild provenance of these birds. In hindsight, we can see that the CBRC did not embrace randomness as an explanation for the occurrence of s uch birds. The only remaining question is WHY? Dave Irons Eugene, OR  See how Windows® connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life Click here = --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia From: Rich Hoyer <calliope AT theriver.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:15:17 -0700 Good memory, Brandon. I just found it in NAB Vol 59, No. 2, pg. 371. "Canada's first Pyrrhuloxia was this female near Eagle, Elgin, County, ontario (here 3 December 2004)." Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- On Nov 13, 2008, at 6:53 AM, flammowl wrote: > > There are three accepted records for Pyrrhuloxia from Colorado. > > Holly, Prowers County, December 19, 1989 > Near Grant, Park County, August 14-13, 1996 > Durango, La Plata County, April 29, 1999. > > Wasn't there also a Pyrrhuloxia in Canada sometime recently, I > remember a photo of it in NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS I think. > > Brandon K. Percival > Pueblo West, CO > > > On Nov 12, 12:02 pm, Rich Hoyer wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> A Pyrrhuloxia has just been reported at a western Oregon backyard >> feeder. There is no reason to doubt the identification. What is the >> pattern of vagrancy for this species? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rich >> --- >> Rich Hoyer >> Tucson, Arizona >> >> Senior Leader for WINGShttp://wingsbirds.com >> --- > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia From: flammowl <flammowl17 AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:53:11 -0800 (PST) There are three accepted records for Pyrrhuloxia from Colorado. Holly, Prowers County, December 19, 1989 Near Grant, Park County, August 14-13, 1996 Durango, La Plata County, April 29, 1999. Wasn't there also a Pyrrhuloxia in Canada sometime recently, I remember a photo of it in NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS I think. Brandon K. Percival Pueblo West, CO On Nov 12, 12:02 pm, Rich Hoyer wrote: > Hi All, > > A Pyrrhuloxia has just been reported at a western Oregon backyard   > feeder. There is no reason to doubt the identification. What is the   > pattern of vagrancy for this species? > > Thanks, > > Rich > --- > Rich Hoyer > Tucson, Arizona > > Senior Leader for WINGShttp://wingsbirds.com > --- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia From: "Geoffrey A. Williamson" <geoffrey.williamson AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:17:10 -0600 Illinois has no records of Pyrrhuloxia. However, next door to us in Wisconsin, one was observed and videotaped 22 October 2005 in Milwaukee. This record was considered to be of "disputed origin." Sincerely, Geoff Williamson Chicago, IL At 01:02 PM 11/12/2008, Rich Hoyer wrote: >Hi All, > >A Pyrrhuloxia has just been reported at a western Oregon backyard >feeder. There is no reason to doubt the identification. What is the >pattern of vagrancy for this species? > >Thanks, > >Rich >--- >Rich Hoyer >Tucson, Arizona > >Senior Leader for WINGS >http://wingsbirds.com >--- > > > Geoffrey A. Williamson geoffrey.williamson AT comcast.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia From: sgmlod AT aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:07:15 -0500 Greetings On a side note, there have been several birds from the southwest, or farther south, in the Pac NW this fall, which is very unusual. We just don't get a lot desert sw type species. But there was a Bell's Vireo, likely arizonae in e. WA, a BC Vireo in SE BC,?a likely VC Humm in NW OR, plus the Variegated Fly in se. WA. Steven Mlodinow -----Original Message----- From: Rich Hoyer To: nabirddist AT googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:02 am Subject: [NABD] Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia Hi All, A Pyrrhuloxia has just been reported at a western Oregon backyard feeder. There is no reason to doubt the identification. What is the pattern of vagrancy for this species? Thanks, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: elaenia? From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:28:28 -0800 (PST) Have you all seen this? http://picasaweb.google.com/noah.conway/WillowFlycatcher111008405PM#5267139285549412258 Thoughts? Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 309.277.7136 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Rich Hoyer wrote: > From: Rich Hoyer > Subject: [NABD] Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia > To: nabirddist AT googlegroups.com > Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 1:02 PM > Hi All, > > A Pyrrhuloxia has just been reported at a western Oregon > backyard > feeder. There is no reason to doubt the identification. > What is the > pattern of vagrancy for this species? > > Thanks, > > Rich > --- > Rich Hoyer > Tucson, Arizona > > Senior Leader for WINGS > http://wingsbirds.com > --- > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia From: "Michael Andersen" <mjandersen43 AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:28:00 -0600 All, A quick check of the Kansas data yield 7 records, 6 of which have details pasted below. Data are from the KBRC website: http://www.ksbirds.org/kos/kos_kbrc.htm 1; 2 January 1993; Elkhart, Morton Co; Sebastian Patti and JoAnn Garrett; photos. Second state record. 1; 9-16 January 1994; Arkansas River near Syracuse, Hamilton Co; Arthur Nonhof. Third state record. 1; 2 February 1995; Wichita, Sedgwick Co; Dale Roark; photos. Fourth state record. 1; 1-22 April 1995; near Marais des Cygne Wildlife Area, Linn Co; Mick McHugh, Greg Griffith, and Lloyd Moore. Fifth state record. 1 adult male; 25 April 2000; feeder in yard near Dodge City, Ford Co; submitted by Joyce Davis. Sixth state record. 1 adult female; 19 May 2000; east side of Quivira NWR, Stafford Co; submitted by Lou Winterfield, other observers included Barb Winterfield. Seventh state record. cheers, Mike _________________________________ Michael J. Andersen Dept. of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology Natural History Museum & Biodiversity Research Center 1345 Jayhawk Blvd., Dyche Hall University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 tel.607.351.5409 mja43 AT ku.edu On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:15 PM, wrote: > Greetings All > > No resources at hand. I do know the species has made it to the Channel > Islands at least once, and I think 2-3 times. I also seem to remember a > recent report from Kansas? or such that was discounted as an escapee. > > No records previously from WA or OR > > SteveM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Hoyer > To: nabirddist AT googlegroups.com > Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:02 am > Subject: [NABD] Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia > > > Hi All, > > A Pyrrhuloxia has just been reported at a western Oregon backyard > feeder. There is no reason to doubt the identification. What is the > pattern of vagrancy for this species? > > Thanks, > > Rich > --- > Rich Hoyer > Tucson, Arizona > > Senior Leader for WINGShttp://wingsbirds.com > --- > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Instant access to the latest & most popular FREE games while you browse > with the Games Toolbar - Download Now! > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia From: sgmlod AT aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:15:02 -0500 Greetings All No resources at hand. I do know the species has made it to the Channel Islands at least once, and I think 2-3 times. I also seem to remember a recent report from Kansas? or such that was discounted as an escapee. No records previously from WA or OR SteveM -----Original Message----- From: Rich Hoyer To: nabirddist AT googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:02 am Subject: [NABD] Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia Hi All, A Pyrrhuloxia has just been reported at a western Oregon backyard feeder. There is no reason to doubt the identification. What is the pattern of vagrancy for this species? Thanks, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Vagrancy Pattern of Pyrrhuloxia From: Rich Hoyer <calliope AT theriver.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:02:48 -0700 Hi All, A Pyrrhuloxia has just been reported at a western Oregon backyard feeder. There is no reason to doubt the identification. What is the pattern of vagrancy for this species? Thanks, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Red-bellied Woodpeckers on the move in the Northeast? From: D Lovitch <yarmouthwbc AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Hi all, In 2004, Red-bellied Woodpeckers staged an impressive incursion into Maine: http://www.yarmouthbirds.com/rbwo.asp This major irruption, part of a widespread movement to the north and east during that fall and winter, augmenting the small, but slowly expanding population of RBWO's in Maine. They had been breeding for a number of years along the southwestern coast (Southern York County), and in the Greater Cape Elizabeth area in particular. Scattered reports would be received from various other locations in the southern and Mid-Coast regions of Maine. Following the irruption, breeding records were received from many new locations, especially in the interior of the state, and the population in the Mid-Coast region (roughly Brunswick to Acadia National Park) seemed to receive a big influx of new birds who remained to breed. In the past 4 years, however, reports and observations have slowly declined, with the exception of the strongholds in the Mid-Coast, Greater Cape Elizabeth, and Southern York County Areas. The past two falls have seen terrible acorn crops in the area, and this likely has played a role in the birds decline. Also, I am assuming birders' reports have decreased as the bird has become somewhat more commonplace. But, now, this fall, we're starting to see another influx of birds into the state - or so it seems. However, the reports have been mostly concentrated in strongholds mentioned above. (And they are not - at least as of now - occurring in the same quantity as in 2004). Therefore, I wonder if some portion of this increase in observation and reports has more to do with a successful breeding season and a plentiful acorn crop, than it does with birds "arriving" from the south. In 2004, the irruption of RBWOs was reflected in large numbers being seen elsewhere in the Northeast, and if I remember correctly, it was correlated with lower counts and a poor acorn mast in the Mid-Atlantic Region. So, I am wondering if observers outside of Maine are seeing anything unusual - plus or minus - with RBWO's in their neck of the woods? -Derek Lovitch Pownal, Maine --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Anyone wanting to keep up-to-date on where rare birds are being found across the country should read ABA's "Sightings" column, which alternates every month between Winging It and Birding. ABA members should receive this information towards the end of each month, about two weeks after the end of the reporting period. Another way to say that is that when you get the news, it's only about two weeks old. Here's a sample from the last Birding: http://www.aba.org/birding/v40n5p26.pdf Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 309.277.7136 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- --- On Wed, 10/15/08, JB Churchill wrote: > From: JB Churchill > Subject: [NABD] Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? > To: "North American Bird Distribution" > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 8:16 AM > On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, "Tom Johnson" > wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering how far inland frigatebirds were > recorded following > > Hurricane/ Tropical Storm Ike?   > > There was one reported from Hagerstown Maryland to the > voice of the > naturalist hotline. The date was Sept 19th. Norm Saunders > re-posts > the voice of the naturalist transcript to the MDOSPREY > listserv and > this is all the info I have on that sighting. > > A MAGNIFICENT FRIGATEBIRD* flew from west to east across > Hagerstown, > Washington, Co., MD at the end of the day on Sep 19. > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? From: JB Churchill <jchurchi AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:16:42 -0700 (PDT) On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, "Tom Johnson" wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering how far inland frigatebirds were recorded following > Hurricane/ Tropical Storm Ike?   There was one reported from Hagerstown Maryland to the voice of the naturalist hotline. The date was Sept 19th. Norm Saunders re-posts the voice of the naturalist transcript to the MDOSPREY listserv and this is all the info I have on that sighting. A MAGNIFICENT FRIGATEBIRD* flew from west to east across Hagerstown, Washington, Co., MD at the end of the day on Sep 19. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? From: "Tom Johnson" <tbj4 AT cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:19:20 -0400 I also recently noticed a report from Ontario of a Magnificent Frigatebird on Lake Erie from 10/12. This seems like a pretty remarkable period of time for an Ike-related frigatebird to be wandering the Great Lakes - perhaps some of the vagrants aren't related to the hurricane? There had also been reports from Lake Michigan (MI and IN) following Ike. Tom On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:16 AM, JB Churchill wrote: > > > > On Sep 22, 2:33 pm, "Tom Johnson" wrote: >> Hi, >> I was wondering how far inland frigatebirds were recorded following >> Hurricane/ Tropical Storm Ike? > > There was one reported from Hagerstown Maryland to the voice of the > naturalist hotline. The date was Sept 19th. Norm Saunders re-posts > the voice of the naturalist transcript to the MDOSPREY listserv and > this is all the info I have on that sighting. > > A MAGNIFICENT FRIGATEBIRD* flew from west to east across Hagerstown, > Washington, Co., MD at the end of the day on Sep 19. > > > > -- Thomas Brodie Johnson Ithaca, NY tbj4 AT cornell.edu mobile: 717.991.5727 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:50:07 -0700 (PDT) I believe the bird that Geoff mentions was in the wake of Hurricane Gustav, though. Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 309.277.7136 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Geoffrey A. Williamson wrote: > From: Geoffrey A. Williamson > Subject: [NABD] Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? > To: NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:35 PM > A frigatebird was seen and photographed 4 September 2008 in > Vermilion > County, Illinois. It was flying eastward, toward the > border with Indiana. > > Sincerely, > Geoff Williamson > Chicago, IL > > At 01:33 PM 9/22/2008, you wrote: > > >Hi, > >I was wondering how far inland frigatebirds were > recorded following > >Hurricane/ Tropical Storm Ike? This weekend, two > frigatebirds were > >reported in Pennsylvania and one in inland New York, > seemingly > >incongruous with typical storm encounters in that it > has been around a > >week or so since the storm broke up. The New York bird > (Cayuga Lake), > >an adult male Magnificent, was not seen to make any > feeding attempts > >yesterday afternoon and died at its roost last night. > It will be > >examined and preserved by the Cornell University Museum > of > >Vertebrates. > >Thanks for any information, > >Tom > > > >-- > >Thomas Brodie Johnson > >Ithaca, NY > >tbj4 AT cornell.edu > >mobile: 717.991.5727 > > > > > Geoffrey A. Williamson > geoffrey.williamson AT comcast.net > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Re: Frigatebirds from Ike? From: "Geoffrey A. Williamson" <geoffrey.williamson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:35:23 -0500 A frigatebird was seen and photographed 4 September 2008 in Vermilion County, Illinois. It was flying eastward, toward the border with Indiana. Sincerely, Geoff Williamson Chicago, IL At 01:33 PM 9/22/2008, you wrote: >Hi, >I was wondering how far inland frigatebirds were recorded following >Hurricane/ Tropical Storm Ike? This weekend, two frigatebirds were >reported in Pennsylvania and one in inland New York, seemingly >incongruous with typical storm encounters in that it has been around a >week or so since the storm broke up. The New York bird (Cayuga Lake), >an adult male Magnificent, was not seen to make any feeding attempts >yesterday afternoon and died at its roost last night. It will be >examined and preserved by the Cornell University Museum of >Vertebrates. >Thanks for any information, >Tom > >-- >Thomas Brodie Johnson >Ithaca, NY >tbj4 AT cornell.edu >mobile: 717.991.5727 > > Geoffrey A. Williamson geoffrey.williamson AT comcast.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: Frigatebirds from Ike? From: "Tom Johnson" <tbj4 AT cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:33:05 -0400 Hi, I was wondering how far inland frigatebirds were recorded following Hurricane/ Tropical Storm Ike? This weekend, two frigatebirds were reported in Pennsylvania and one in inland New York, seemingly incongruous with typical storm encounters in that it has been around a week or so since the storm broke up. The New York bird (Cayuga Lake), an adult male Magnificent, was not seen to make any feeding attempts yesterday afternoon and died at its roost last night. It will be examined and preserved by the Cornell University Museum of Vertebrates. Thanks for any information, Tom -- Thomas Brodie Johnson Ithaca, NY tbj4 AT cornell.edu mobile: 717.991.5727 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "North American Bird Distribution" group. To post to this group, send email to NABirdDist AT googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to NABirdDist+unsubscribe AT googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NABirdDist?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Subject: dealing with spam... From: "Thomas B. 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