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20 Nov Fwd: [jax-birds] Crane Count 11/16/09 Haehnle Sanctuary [Lathe Claflin ]
20 Nov HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (20 Nov 2009) Raptors []
19 Nov Halloween Quiz answers ["Robert Setzer" ]
19 Nov Re: OT cleaning cement bird baths []
19 Nov HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (19 Nov 2009) Raptors []
19 Nov Re: Tundra Swans Flyway ["Russell Emmons" ]
19 Nov Re: Pointe Mouille Headquarters yesterday : lots of Bonaparte Gulls []
19 Nov Tundra Swans Flyway [Ed Lewandowski ]
19 Nov Re: carolina wren [Sarah Toner ]
19 Nov eBird now supports email submissions [David Bell ]
19 Nov Pointe Mouille Headquarters yesterday : lots of Bonaparte Gulls [laurent fournier ]
19 Nov Re: carolina wren [Bruce McCulloch ]
19 Nov carolina wren [Jan Berry ]
18 Nov HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (18 Nov 2009) 6 Raptors []
18 Nov (Fwd) [Mich-listers] Ancient Murrelet, Berrien County, 11/18/0 ["Bruce M. Bowman" ]
18 Nov Re: Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn ["Sally K Scheer" ]
18 Nov Tonight: "Birding the Soo," free Washtenaw Audubon event, Wed., Nov. 18, 7:30, all invited [Mike Sefton ]
18 Nov Re: Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn [CATHERINE CARROLL ]
17 Nov Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn [Catherine Carroll ]
17 Nov HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (17 Nov 2009) 53 Raptors []
17 Nov RE: Magnificent collection of photos by Andrew Zuckerman ["Robert Setzer" ]
17 Nov Another Hawk-Dove Encounter [GWEN REED ]
17 Nov minox attachment for scope ["Sally K Scheer" ]
17 Nov Re: Two "rambles" are much better than a non-existent Saturday paper - Ode to Allen ["Robert Setzer" ]
17 Nov Re: Hawk-dove encounter []
17 Nov Re: Hawk-dove encounter ["Sally K Scheer" ]
17 Nov Hawk-dove encounter []
17 Nov "Birding the Soo " is free Washtenaw Audubon event, Wed., Nov 18th, Ann Arbor, all invited [Ray Stocking ]
16 Nov Belle Isle Monday [Ed Lewandowski ]
16 Nov HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (16 Nov 2009) 14 Raptors []
16 Nov RE: Ancient Murrelet ["Cendra Lynn" ]
16 Nov RE: Owl Sounds [David Allen ]
16 Nov Saw-whet Owl at Belle Isle ["Santner, Steven" ]
16 Nov Magnificent collection of photos by Andrew Zuckerman [Maryse Brouwers ]
16 Nov Ancient Murrelet ["Robert Epstein" ]
16 Nov Peregrine Falcon - Washtenaw County ["Bruce M. Bowman" ]
16 Nov Adult Red-headed Woodpecker - NE Oakland County ["rockysq AT juno.com" ]
16 Nov Re: Two "rambles" are much better than a non-existent Saturday paper - Ode to Allen ["Allen T. Chartier" ]
16 Nov Two "rambles" are much better than a non-existent Saturday paper - Ode to Allen ["Robert Setzer" ]
15 Nov LEM [Ken Willard ]
15 Nov Eagle and RB Nuthatch ["bflylady27 AT netzero.com" ]
15 Nov Re: SEOs in Superior Township Washtenaw County [curt powell ]
15 Nov Re: OT cleaning cement bird baths [Crystal Keller ]
15 Nov Re: OT cleaning cement bird baths []
15 Nov (Fwd) [Mich-listers] Berrien County Ancient Murrelet--11/15 NO ["Bruce M. Bowman" ]
15 Nov Re: Injured swan at Wetzel ["Maxine Biwer" ]
15 Nov SEOs in Superior Township Washtenaw County [Roger Kuhlman ]
15 Nov Injured swan at Wetzel ["Marilynn" ]
15 Nov Ancient Murrelet - not so far today ["Bruce M. Bowman" ]
15 Nov Murrelet photos [Andy Johnson ]
14 Nov Snow Buntings (Friday) [Andy Johnson ]
14 Nov (Minnesota) Sax-Zim Bog Winter Bird Festival [Michael Hendrickson ]
14 Nov HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (14 Nov 2009) 7 Raptors []
14 Nov Ancient Murrelet at Tiscornia Beach []
14 Nov S-e Owl - Oakland County [James Fox ]
14 Nov Vreeland Road - Washtenaw and Thorn Lake - Jackson [Don Henise ]
14 Nov Ancient Murrelet - St. Joseph, MI [Ray Stocking ]
14 Nov Dearborn birds junco & red bellied woodpecker [Janet Damian Lapko ]
14 Nov Re: Owl Sounds []
14 Nov A new Birding TV show ["Marys1000" ]
14 Nov Re: question/comments about Pileated Woodpeckers ["Russell Emmons" ]
14 Nov question/comments about Pileated Woodpeckers [Pat Burden ]
13 Nov RE: Owl Sounds ["Russell Emmons" ]
13 Nov RE: Owl Sounds ["Sally K Scheer" ]
13 Nov RE: Owl Sounds ["Cendra Lynn" ]
13 Nov HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (13 Nov 2009) 94 Raptors []
13 Nov Vreeland/Gotfredson Roads [James Fox ]
13 Nov not found // Re: Relocated: WHITE-WINGED DOVE IN WASHTENAW COUNTY ["Bruce M. Bowman" ]
13 Nov Ring-necked duck ["Maxine Biwer" ]
13 Nov Red-necked Grebe at Ford Lake ["Bruce Moorman" ]
13 Nov ADMIN - Arb management ["Bruce M. Bowman" ]
13 Nov Owl Sounds [David Allen ]
13 Nov Re: RB Nuthatch & Yard Birds ["Sally K Scheer" ]
13 Nov Re: RB Nuthatch & Yard Birds ["Melody Bond" ]
13 Nov RB Nuthatch & Yard Birds [Barb ]
13 Nov RE: The Arb Today 11/12 [John Lowry ]

Subject: Fwd: [jax-birds] Crane Count 11/16/09 Haehnle Sanctuary
From: Lathe Claflin <lathe.claflin AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:32:20 -0500
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gary Siegrist 
Date: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Subject: [jax-birds] Crane Count 11/16/09 Haehnle Sanctuary
To: jaxbirds AT umich.edu


There were 466 Sandhill Cranes roosting at the sanctuary on Monday,
another 835 cranes flew over to roost in suitable habitat north and
west of Haehnle. Most of the bird were seen between 4:30 and 5:30 p.m.
 Large numbers of waterfowl continue to use Mud Lake Marsh as a safe
haven and the Northern Shrike was seen on Sunday afternoon below the
observation hill.



Waterfowl sightings:

Trumpeter Swan - 2

Tundra Swan – 6

Mallard – 100+

Black Duck – 2

American Wigeon – 6

Hooded Merganser – 5

Green-wing Teal – 10

Northern Shoveler – 2

Northern Pintail – 2

American Coot – 100+

Canada Goose – 50+



Other sightings:

Northern Harrier – 1 (im.)

Bald Eagle – 3 (I juvenile, 2 adults)



My apologies for the lateness of this report.



Gary Siegrist

People for Wildlife Coordinator

The Dahlem Conservancy

PH 517-782-3453

FAX 517-782-3441

Cell 517-937-1095





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Subject: HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (20 Nov 2009) Raptors
From: reports AT hawkcount.org
Date: 20 Nov 2009 17:11:43 -0400
DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark
Brownstown, Michigan, USA
Daily Raptor Counts: Nov 20, 2009
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Species            Day's Count    Month Total   Season Total
------------------ ----------- -------------- --------------
Black Vulture                0              0              0
Turkey Vulture               0            717          54864
Osprey                       0              0             46
Bald Eagle                   0             12            109
Northern Harrier             0             17            163
Sharp-shinned Hawk           0             47           3251
Cooper's Hawk                0             46            326
Northern Goshawk             0              7             23
Red-shouldered Hawk          0            254            606
Broad-winged Hawk            0              0          20016
Red-tailed Hawk              0            924           2412
Rough-legged Hawk            0              8             13
Golden Eagle                 0             48            111
American Kestrel             0              2            440
Merlin                       0              0             39
Peregrine Falcon             0              2             34
Unknown Accipiter            0              0              0
Unknown Buteo                0              0             12
Unknown Falcon               0              0              0
Unknown Eagle                0              0              0
Unknown Raptor               0              1              1
Mississippi Kite             0              0              1
Swainson's Hawk              0              0              4

Total:                       0           2085          82471
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Observation start time: 10:00:00 
Observation end   time: 14:00:00 
Total observation time: 4 hours

Official Counter:        Seth Cutright

Observers:        John Elliott, Rodney Laura

Weather:
More Southwest winds at around 0-6mph.  Visibility was just OK, with a lot
of gray, haze-fog mix all around the count area in the background areas. 
Cloud cover was just about 100% all day, with just a few opening of blue
sky, then they would quickly close again.  

 



 



 

Raptor Observations:
No migratory raptors again, and only saw 3 non migratory/ or likely local
raptors. 

Non-raptor Observations:
A one-two thousand ducks on and flying around on and over the lake today. 
Several flocks of Tundra Swans went past too.  Several Brown Creepers, and
Golden-crowned Kinglets were found along the trail.  Two Belted Kingfishers
also flew past a few times. 

Predictions:
More light West, Southwest, or South winds for Saturday.  After two days of
no movement it could be a good day.  But with more winds from the South or
West it also could be slow.  Most likely maybe slow but steady.  If it is
clearer and warmer with light winds it might be an OK day for a few more
Golden Eagles to go by. 
========================================================================
Report submitted by Seth Cutright (seth.cutright AT gmail.com)
SMRR- Lake Erie Metropark information may be found at:
http://www.smrr.net/



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Subject: Halloween Quiz answers
From: "Robert Setzer" <doctorbass AT comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:31:01 -0500
OK. I am a bit overdue for this, but it has not yet been a month yet so I am
not too embarrassed – just have been too busy looking for new birds (…think
“wild goose chase”?). I updated my PBase site tonight with more pics of the
Halloween quiz bird … drum roll please … č a Sandhill Crane. Did you get it?

 

I think this must have been too obvious for most of you. I only had a few
responses – less than 10.  Janet you win the special prize – my
congratulations for correctly identifying the bird! Other responders win the
runner-up prize – my sincere thanks for playing!

 

I am heartened that many of you checked out the bird even if you did not
respond! PBase has a hit counter, so I know that over a hundred people
looked at my quiz. (OK, that is enough encouragement for me to try it
again!). I hope you all enjoyed my weird (but I think great!) pic! (By the
way, never feel embarrassed about a guess! It is so obvious – as you know -
that I guess a lot! I see it as a first step towards knowledge!)

 

Anyway, I put a dozen Sandhill pics on the site tonight – please check them
out! (I think some are actually quite nice…) These were taken in July.

http://www.pbase.com/doctorbass/2009_october_quiz

 

For Judy and me seeing this beautiful bird up close was incredible! Judy
immediately took it as her favorite bird, and kept pestering me to go back!
I had seen on the birders list it might be possible to see one at
Kensington. We walked a long trail (all around Wildwing Lake), looking in
the weeds as we went and did not see any. We were disappointed. Then on our
return, we found three birds just hanging around the Nature Center! On
subsequent visits, we saw them every time but one – often near the Nature
Center, but also in other places in the park. So cool!

 

Oh, yes, we did see and ‘shoot’ the osprey chicks in the nest – the main
reason we went! Wow! Thank you all reporting birders for enriching our
lives! 

 

Gee - July seems so long ago!

 

"Dr. Bob" Setzer

Streamwood Estates, Rochester Hills (Crooks & Hamlin), Oakland County

 

"Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day."   Teaching a man to "bird"
is much harder! Playing a “bird quiz” is more fun than Sudoku? Well, maybe …
sometimes …

Blog:  
http://drbobsbirdblog.blogspot.com/

 

 



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Subject: Re: OT cleaning cement bird baths
From: wovenwoman AT aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:31:50 -0500
Safe for birds and the environment.

Biokleen
Bac-Out
Stain and odor eliminator
kills bacteria, smells great, non-toxic, biodegradable, smells like limes mmmm

Works on just about everything.
Namaste,
Edie



-----Original Message-----
From: Crystal Keller 
To: birders AT umich.edu
Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2009 1:28 pm
Subject: [birders] Re: OT cleaning cement bird baths


I suggest not to use bleach unless you are confident you can rinse it out 
completely. Cement is porous and can hold substances. We use vinegar to clean 
feeders and birdbaths. 



Crystal Keller




On Nov 15, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Brucemac1 AT aol.com wrote:


Hey Vicky...
 
I don't know what others use, but I'd recommend household bleach. I pour the 
bleach into a dry bath-bowl. Then I use a scrub brush to spread the bleach 
around and clean out the detritus. Rinse clean and store for the winter. 

For the painted deco models, you may want to try a little Fantastic. Straight 
bleach my be too tough for the paint finish. 

During the season, I use 'Chlorox Clean-Up' regularly. It is a diluted form of 
bleach and the chlorine is an effective disinfectant. Maybe twice weekly, I'll 
simply spray a couple squirts of Chlorox Clean-Up onto the surface of the water 
in the birdbath. "JUST A COUPLE SQUIRTS...!!" Don't overdo it. 

You'll be able to detect the chlorine odor for 20 or 30 minutes. Chlorine 
dissipates quickly, especially in the sunlight. 

 It does wonders in keeping the water clear and inhibits growth of algae, etc. 
The birdbath doesn't become as fouled up so it's much easier to maintain. 

 
Bruce Macdonald, Harrow, Ontario, N shore of Lake Erie, 26 miles south of 
Detroit/Windsor 

 
 

In a message dated 11/15/2009 11:54:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
vfoltz AT verizon.net writes: 

Hello everyone,
I have several cement bird baths that need cleaning and putting up for the 
winter (I have a heated one I use during the winter months). 


I am wondering what is safe to use to scrub these? Two of the the three I 
purchased at art fairs and they have painted surfaces. The other is the plain 
old fashioned kind. 


Any suggestions would be much appreciated!

Vicky Foltz
Ft. Wayne IN


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Subject: HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (19 Nov 2009) Raptors
From: reports AT hawkcount.org
Date: 19 Nov 2009 18:11:33 -0400
DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark
Brownstown, Michigan, USA
Daily Raptor Counts: Nov 19, 2009
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Species            Day's Count    Month Total   Season Total
------------------ ----------- -------------- --------------
Black Vulture                0              0              0
Turkey Vulture               0            717          54864
Osprey                       0              0             46
Bald Eagle                   0             12            109
Northern Harrier             0             17            163
Sharp-shinned Hawk           0             47           3251
Cooper's Hawk                0             46            326
Northern Goshawk             0              7             23
Red-shouldered Hawk          0            254            606
Broad-winged Hawk            0              0          20016
Red-tailed Hawk              0            924           2412
Rough-legged Hawk            0              8             13
Golden Eagle                 0             48            111
American Kestrel             0              2            440
Merlin                       0              0             39
Peregrine Falcon             0              2             34
Unknown Accipiter            0              0              0
Unknown Buteo                0              0             12
Unknown Falcon               0              0              0
Unknown Eagle                0              0              0
Unknown Raptor               0              1              1
Mississippi Kite             0              0              1
Swainson's Hawk              0              0              4

Total:                       0           2085          82471
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Observation start time: 09:30:00 
Observation end   time: 14:00:00 
Total observation time: 4.5 hours

Official Counter:        Raburn Howland, Seth Cutright

Observers:        Raburn Howland, Seth Cutright

Weather:
100% cloudy all day with rain/snow looking clouds going over.  Some dark
and gray skies both over head and in the background.  With some fog in the
background too. Visibility was mostly clear besides this.  Wind was from
0-8mph, and went anywhere from Southwest to Southeast.  Then at times at
the same time it could be more West and East.  

 







Raptor Observations:
No migratory raptors today at all. 

Non-raptor Observations:
Hardly any other movement of anything else.  Not much around at all.

Predictions:
I guess it will be slow Friday with more West-Southwest winds and chances
of rain around noon.  But odder things have happened so maybe it will turn
out OK...
========================================================================
Report submitted by Seth Cutright (seth.cutright AT gmail.com)
SMRR- Lake Erie Metropark information may be found at:
http://www.smrr.net/



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Subject: Re: Tundra Swans Flyway
From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland AT pasty.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:02:54 -0500
Ed; Same thing here! Every year spring & fall they fly over. Still watching for 
this falls flights here. Usually the last 2 weeks of Nov., the first 2 weeks of 
Dec. Of course though we are just north of Anchor Bay here in south St. Clair 
county and Tundras hang around on the Bay or the nearby St. Clair River well 
into the winter and a few even overwinter. Recent years starting to see a few 
Trumpeters on the big river. 


 Was along Anchor Bay Tuesday and saw about 12 Tundras mixed in with many Mute 
on the water.. Not much else around there though, several Gulls and a few 
Mallards. 

 Here at home being visited now with Purple Finch, RED-breasted Nuthatches, 
Brown Creepers, Cowbirds, Tree Sparrows, including Hairy Woodpeckers have 
reappeared, plus all the usual regulars. 


Russ Emmons
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ed Lewandowski 
  To: birders AT umich.edu 
  Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:44 PM
  Subject: [birders] Tundra Swans Flyway


        Hello Birders,

 I had a group of 16 swans fly by my home yesterday. This has become quite an 
unexpected phenomenon for me. It seems to happen every year, and every year it 
still surprises me. I do not have a Mute Swan in my backyard list but the 
Tundra is. Pretty cool, I have to wonder if we are part of their flyway. 


        Happy Birding
        Ed Lewandowski
        Auburn Hills 

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Subject: Re: Pointe Mouille Headquarters yesterday : lots of Bonaparte Gulls
From: richard.e.chase AT comcast.net
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:58:45 +0000 (UTC)

There was a small flock (about a dozen) of Bonaparte's Gulls on the borrow pit 
at the Ann Arbor Landfill about two weeks ago, along with a couple of 
ring-billed gulls (plus a couple of hooded mergansers and buffleheads).  




I'm not much for knowing which gulls are interesting to birders.  I grew up on 
the Atlantic coast thinking that all gulls were sea gulls.  It's only in the 
last couple of years that I've started to look more closely. 




     Dick Chase 

     Ann Arbor 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "laurent fournier"  
To: birders AT umich.edu 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:09:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [birders] Pointe Mouille Headquarters yesterday : lots of Bonaparte 
Gulls 





I had the opportunity yesterday to have my lunch break at the Pointe Mouille 
Headquarters yesterday, and I was astonished to see around 150 bonaparte's 
gulls (this is a conservative number), during my 20 minutes break (I did a 
point count for the ebird database). 

Also seen were 13 Tundra Swans flyovers 



Laurent   



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Subject: Tundra Swans Flyway
From: Ed Lewandowski <scotchman12year AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:44:16 -0800 (PST)
Hello Birders,
 
I had a group of 16 swans fly by my home yesterday.  This has become quite an 
unexpected phenomenon for me.  It seems to happen every year, and every year it 
still surprises me.  I do not have a Mute Swan in my backyard list but the 
Tundra is.  Pretty cool, I have to wonder if we are part of their flyway. 

 
Happy Birding
Ed Lewandowski
Auburn Hills




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Subject: Re: carolina wren
From: Sarah Toner <strix09 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:36:13 -0500
Had one at Thurston Pond this weekend.

Sarah T,
NE Ann Arbor

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Bruce McCulloch  wrote:

> There has been a Carolina wren hanging out at my suet feeder for the last
> few days.
>
> BRM,
> Canton
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Jan Berry 
> *To:* birders AT umich.edu
> *Sent:* Thu, November 19, 2009 8:27:03 AM
> *Subject:* [birders] carolina wren
>
> Heard a carolina wren this morning when I walked out my door.  Such a
> cheerful sound on this rainy morning!
>
> Jan B
>
> Superior Township
> Washtenaw County
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Subject: eBird now supports email submissions
From: David Bell <d AT vidbell.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:39:29 -0800
Michigan Birders,

Submitting data to eBird just got easier: There is an article on the 
eBird website about a new free way to enter your sightings by email at 
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/ezbird.  I thought it might be of 
interest to the members of this listserv, many of whom use eBird.

There is commercial software out there that allows people in the field 
to submit sightings to eBird.  This is simpler, faster and best of all 
free.

To submit sightings, all you need to do is send an email to 
reports AT ezbird.org with information about where you birded and a list of 
species seen in a special format that takes about 10 minutes to learn. 
You can use BBL or 6-letter codes and the species can be listed in any 
order. You will get an email back in a few minutes containing a file 
with all of your sightings and a list of any errors such as unrecognized 
codes or incorrect location information.  You can log into eBird and 
upload the file, or EZBird can do it for you.

EZBird is a streamlined, fast way to:
1) enter sightings while in the field using your Blackberry or other 
email-enabled PDA/Phone.
2) transcribe your notebooks or voice recordings into eBird.  It allows 
you to use Bander's or 6-letter codes to save typing.  It also puts the 
species in the correct order for you and combines multiple records for 
the same species by adding the numbers and combining the comments.

There is an option that allows you to have EZBird import your file into 
eBird automatically, which is a great time saver especially in the field.

I created EZBird for my own use.  Friends started using it and suggested 
that I make it available to the public.  It is free.  It requires no new 
or special software -- just your regular email program.  See 
www.ezbird.org for more details.



Good eBirding!

David Bell
Vacaville, CA
U of Michigan Alumn
d AT vidbell.com

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Subject: Pointe Mouille Headquarters yesterday : lots of Bonaparte Gulls
From: laurent fournier <laurentfournier2003 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:09:28 -0800 (PST)
I had the opportunity yesterday to have my lunch break at the Pointe Mouille 
Headquarters yesterday, and I was astonished to see around 150 bonaparte's 
gulls (this is a conservative number), during my 20 minutes break (I did a 
point count for the ebird database). 

Also seen were 13 Tundra Swans flyovers


Laurent  




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Subject: Re: carolina wren
From: Bruce McCulloch <flavus94 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:51:35 -0800 (PST)
There has been a Carolina wren hanging out at my suet feeder for the last few 
days. 


BRM,
Canton




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From: Jan Berry 
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Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 8:27:03 AM
Subject: [birders] carolina wren

Heard a carolina wren this morning when I walked out my door.  Such a cheerful 
sound on this rainy morning! 


Jan B

Superior Township
Washtenaw County

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Subject: carolina wren
From: Jan Berry <jeberry AT umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:27:03 -0500
Heard a carolina wren this morning when I walked out my door.  Such a  
cheerful sound on this rainy morning!

Jan B

Superior Township
Washtenaw County

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Subject: HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (18 Nov 2009) 6 Raptors
From: reports AT hawkcount.org
Date: 18 Nov 2009 20:11:30 -0400
DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark
Brownstown, Michigan, USA
Daily Raptor Counts: Nov 18, 2009
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Species            Day's Count    Month Total   Season Total
------------------ ----------- -------------- --------------
Black Vulture                0              0              0
Turkey Vulture               0            717          54864
Osprey                       0              0             46
Bald Eagle                   0             12            109
Northern Harrier             1             17            163
Sharp-shinned Hawk           0             47           3251
Cooper's Hawk                0             46            326
Northern Goshawk             1              7             23
Red-shouldered Hawk          0            254            606
Broad-winged Hawk            0              0          20016
Red-tailed Hawk              2            924           2412
Rough-legged Hawk            0              8             13
Golden Eagle                 2             48            111
American Kestrel             0              2            440
Merlin                       0              0             39
Peregrine Falcon             0              2             34
Unknown Accipiter            0              0              0
Unknown Buteo                0              0             12
Unknown Falcon               0              0              0
Unknown Eagle                0              0              0
Unknown Raptor               0              1              1
Mississippi Kite             0              0              1
Swainson's Hawk              0              0              4

Total:                       6           2085          82471
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Observation start time: 10:00:00 
Observation end   time: 14:00:00 
Total observation time: 4 hours

Official Counter:        Seth Cutright

Observers:        Rodney Laura

Visitors:
Thanks to Rodney L., and Nora C., for coming by the count today.  Made for
a nice day.


Weather:
It was 100% cloudy all day. Some rain did come down just after 2:00pm.
Visibility was clear but also hazy and dark in the background too. Wind
started at East-North-East, then changed to East-South-East, and then
lastly to East. It was either 5-10mph or 10-15mph. 

Raptor Observations:
Not much went by before the rain, but what did go by was neat. The first
two raptors of the day were Golden Eagles. They came by at about 10:40am. 2
Red-tailed Hawks, 1 Northern Goshawk, and 1 Northern Harrier also went by.

Non-raptor Observations:
Around 40 Bonaparte's Gull have been around and were neat to watch feed and
fly by close. More Tundra Swans were around, and went past, with one flock
of 29. Both Lesser and Greater Scaup flew past around over the lake.
Bufflehead, and Common Goldeneye were also around. An Eastern Bluebird was
also heard flying over.

Predictions:
It looks like rain tonight and early in the day Thursday. Then light
South-Southwest winds. I would guess it might be OK, with rain today and
tonight and early, and likely late in the day Thursday. But it could also
be slow with Southwest winds. It is also the time of year when birds might
just go at any time. 
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Subject: (Fwd) [Mich-listers] Ancient Murrelet, Berrien County, 11/18/0
From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99 AT comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:11:27 -0500
Ancient Murrelet -- yes! (Wednesday)

Macklin Smith and I went over (from Ann Arbor) for the Ancient Murrelet 
right after I read the post below.  We and at least eight others watched 
the murrelet from the tip of the north pier.  The bird was probably 200-
300 yards out while Macklin and I were there, from 2:00 to 3:00.  It was 
present on and off through the afternoon.  We were told that it 
disappeared from about 1:00 to 2:00.  The water was smooth, and light was 
decent, so we had good scope looks at 20 through 40 power.  It rained a 
bit before we got there, but the rain stopped for us.

While we were there, the bird did a lot of diving, spending perhaps half 
its time underwater.  It was up, though, for as much as a minute at a 
time.

Anyone planning to go for the Ancient Murrelet on Thursday (or later) 
would be well advised to check the weather reports before leaving home.

It took us two hours fifteen minutes to get to Tiscornia Park (St. 
Joseph) from Ann Arbor.

Bruce


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Date sent:      	Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:55:06 -0500
From:           	Curtis Dykstra 
To:             	Michigan Listers 
Subject:        	[Mich-listers] Ancient Murrelet, Berrien County, 11/18/09

Listers,
Caleb Putnam called me asking to post on behalf of Tim Baerwald that Tim
is currently (11/18/09 10:45) watching the ANCIENT MURRELET at Tiscornia
Park, Berrien County.  The bird is straight off shore of the end of the
north pier and is in the company of a flock of Bonaparte's Gulls - which
also includes one adult LITTLE GULL.  The bird is well offshore swimming
where the river water meets the lake water. Curtis

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Subject: Re: Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn
From: "Sally K Scheer" <winerat AT villagecorner.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:58:23 -0500
Yeah, and most humans act pretty weird when they're drunk too. The trick is to 
drink without getting drunk. Most intelligent people can do this but I don't 
thiink any birds have that kind of self control. 


Sally Scheer
Clinton MI
Far southwest Washtenaw Co
Bridgewater Twp
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CATHERINE CARROLL 
  To: birders AT umich.edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:14 AM
  Subject: [birders] Re: Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn


  Pat,
  It's possible.


  Cathy
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Pat Burden" 
  To: songsparrow AT wowway.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:27:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: Re: [birders] Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn


 Is it possible this bird was drunk? This time of year, it is not uncommon for 
robins to be eating fermented berries. They sure act weird when they are drunk! 

  Pat


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Catherine Carroll 
  To: birders AT umich.edu
  Sent: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:55 pm
  Subject: [birders] Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn


  Birders, 
   
 This evening I went to U of M Dearborn to do some banking at my credit union. 
It was still dusk but starting to go dark. Driving up to the parking lot I saw 
a large flock of birds flying around and when I got out of my car I could see 
and hear that they were all Robins. They were in trees, in the sky and moving 
around a lot. I came out of the credit union and they were still flying around. 
I backed my car up to pull away and saw a Robin just standing on the parking 
lot - all by itself. I pulled my car up next to it and it didn't move. I opened 
the car door and it remained motionless. Got out of my car and walked up behind 
it. It still didn't move. Its eyes were open. It appeared unharmed. I bent over 
and picked up the bird. Just then it woke up, gave a three note call, broke 
free and flew into a nearby conifer. It also pooped on my hands. I'm thinking 
this may have been a very tired bird perhaps after a long migration flight. 

   
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Subject: Tonight: "Birding the Soo," free Washtenaw Audubon event, Wed., Nov. 18, 7:30, all invited
From: Mike Sefton <mseft AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:00:40 -0800 (PST)
Birders and friends,
  Please join us tonight for the free program below.  This event is open to the 
public; membership is not required. 


Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 7:30pm
Winter Birding in the Soo

  Join Gary Siegrist and Lathe Claflin for an exciting program on winter
birding in the Sault Sainte Marie area of Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
Gary and Lathe have led many field trips in this area and have great
pictures of the birds and winter landscape.  See Snowy Owls, Great
Gray Owls, Northern Hawk Owls, Evening Grosbeaks, Gray Jays, Boreal
Chickadees, Sharp-tailed Grouse, and other winter wonders. Gary is the
People for Wildlife Coordinator for the Dahlem Conservancy in Jackson,
MI.  Lathe is a professor emeritus of the University of Michigan
Medical School and past president of Washtenaw Audubon.
  Washtenaw Audubon programs are held at the U-M Matthaei Botanical Gardens, 
1800 North Dixboro Rd., Ann Arbor.  Call 677-3275 for more information about 
the program.  Directions to the Botanical Gardens: 

http://washtenawaudubon.org/programs.php  
  In addition to the program, hear news of the latest critter sightings
and field trips, and enjoy tasty snacks following the program.
  Hope to see you there.

Mike Sefton
Washtenaw Audubon Society
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Subject: Re: Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn
From: CATHERINE CARROLL <songsparrow AT wowway.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:14:50 -0500 (EST)
Pat, 
It's possible. 


Cathy 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Burden"  
To: songsparrow AT wowway.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:27:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [birders] Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn 


Is it possible this bird was drunk? This time of year, it is not uncommon for 
robins to be eating fermented berries. They sure act weird when they are drunk! 

Pat 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Catherine Carroll  
To: birders AT umich.edu 
Sent: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 9:55 pm 
Subject: [birders] Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn 


Birders, 

This evening I went to U of M Dearborn to do some banking at my credit union. 
It was still dusk but starting to go dark. Driving up to the parking lot I saw 
a large flock of birds flying around and when I got out of my car I could see 
and hear that they were all Robins. They were in trees, in the sky and moving 
around a lot. I came out of the credit union and they were still flying around. 
I backed my car up to pull away and saw a Robin just standing on the parking 
lot - all by itself. I pulled my car up next to it and it didn't move. I opened 
the car door and it remained motionless. Got out of my car and walked up behind 
it. It still didn't move. Its eyes were open. It appeared unharmed. I bent over 
and picked up the bird. Just then it woke up, gave a three note call, broke 
free and flew into a nearby conifer. It also pooped on my hands. I'm thinking 
this may have been a very tired bird perhaps after a long migration flight. 


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Subject: Large Robin flock at U of M Dearborn
From: Catherine Carroll <songsparrow AT wowway.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:55:39 -0500
Birders,

This evening I went to U of M Dearborn to do some banking at my credit  
union.  It was still dusk but starting to go dark.  Driving up to the  
parking lot I saw a large flock of birds flying around and when I got  
out of my car I could see and hear that they were all Robins.  They  
were in trees, in the sky and moving around a lot.  I came out of the  
credit union and they were still flying around.  I backed my car up to  
pull away and saw a Robin just standing on the parking lot - all by  
itself.  I pulled my car up next to it and it didn't move.  I opened  
the car door and it remained motionless.  Got out of my car and walked  
up behind it.  It still didn't move.  Its eyes were open.  It appeared  
unharmed.  I bent over and picked up the bird.  Just then it woke up,  
gave a three note call, broke free and flew into a nearby conifer.  It  
also pooped on my hands.  I'm thinking this may have been a very tired  
bird perhaps after a long migration flight.

Cathy Carroll
Dearborn, MI 
     

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Subject: HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (17 Nov 2009) 53 Raptors
From: reports AT hawkcount.org
Date: 17 Nov 2009 20:11:20 -0400
DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark
Brownstown, Michigan, USA
Daily Raptor Counts: Nov 17, 2009
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Species            Day's Count    Month Total   Season Total
------------------ ----------- -------------- --------------
Black Vulture                0              0              0
Turkey Vulture               4            717          54864
Osprey                       0              0             46
Bald Eagle                   0             12            109
Northern Harrier             0             16            162
Sharp-shinned Hawk           0             47           3251
Cooper's Hawk                1             46            326
Northern Goshawk             0              6             22
Red-shouldered Hawk          7            254            606
Broad-winged Hawk            0              0          20016
Red-tailed Hawk             40            922           2410
Rough-legged Hawk            0              8             13
Golden Eagle                 0             46            109
American Kestrel             1              2            440
Merlin                       0              0             39
Peregrine Falcon             0              2             34
Unknown Accipiter            0              0              0
Unknown Buteo                0              0             12
Unknown Falcon               0              0              0
Unknown Eagle                0              0              0
Unknown Raptor               0              1              1
Mississippi Kite             0              0              1
Swainson's Hawk              0              0              4

Total:                      53           2079          82465
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Observation start time: 10:00:00 
Observation end   time: 15:15:00 
Total observation time: 5.25 hours

Official Counter:        Seth Cutright

Observers:        John Elliott, Rodney Laura

Weather:
Clear visibility all day today with around 90% cloud cover.  Winds were
10-15mph most hours, but got up to around 30mph for a few hours also.  It
was also from the Northeast.  





 

Raptor Observations:
53 counted raptors today, with most going by in the first two hours.  40 of
the 53 were Red-tailed Hawks.

Non-raptor Observations:
Lots of ducks out over the lake.  

Predictions:
It might rain around 11 and 12 Wednesday...if it is an all day rain then I
will most likely not come down...But if it is only a light rain or on off
then I might come down still.  It should be an East wind and lighter then
today's winds.  If any rain happens birds might move right before that or
after that.  Also they might move since the winds should be lighter then
today.  But if they don't move it might because of the rain or because of
the East winds. 
========================================================================
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Subject: RE: Magnificent collection of photos by Andrew Zuckerman
From: "Robert Setzer" <doctorbass AT comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:21:35 -0500
Maryse -

 

Thanks! Interesting! I really appreciated this!

 

I followed a link from there to Amazon. There are two really interesting
videos (scroll down a bit) that can be watched about the making about the
book.

http://www.amazon.com/Bird-Andrew-Zuckerman/dp/0811870987/

 

These will be especially interesting to bird photographers (eat your hearts
out!), but I am sure everyone will appreciate. And here most of us try to do
it with a staff of one (ourselves) and good luck. It is another "when I win
the lottery" moment! And, I am sure the zoos/nature centers benefitted quite
a bit - great! Just fascinating - what a "day job"! What fun!

 

-          Dr. Bob

 

 

From: Maryse Brouwers [mailto:maryse734 AT yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:47 AM
To: birders AT umich.edu
Subject: [birders] Magnificent collection of photos by Andrew Zuckerman

 


http://birdbook.org/

Most of the individual bird photos give you links on the right to several
other photos of that bird.






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Subject: Another Hawk-Dove Encounter
From: GWEN REED <rreed99957 AT sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:07:15 -0800 (PST)
While sitting at my desk this morning I heard a loud crash against the side of 
the Condo just above the window.  An imature Cooper;s Hawk and a dove came 
tumbling down the window and landed on the ground.  The Hawk seemed to  be 
pecking at the dove but they were too  close to the wall to see for sure.  In a 
flurry of wing both suddenly disappeared around the corner. A few seconds later 
the hawk came back and landed in the flowers and shrubs between my office and 
the garage.  He spent several minutes intently studying the area running up to 
any movement with his neck outstretched like a chicken. A squirrel spooked him 
up into a small tree where he spent a few more minutes studying the area before 
flying off.  There is no sign of the dove so I believe it escaped. 

 
A few days ago I saw a Merlin in a tree on DhuVaren Rd about a hundred yards 
west of Nixon.  Probably the same one Roger saw near Nixon and Huro;n Parkway.  

 
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Subject: minox attachment for scope
From: "Sally K Scheer" <winerat AT villagecorner.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:53:00 -0500
Has anyone had any experience with the Minox Digital Camera Module for Minox 
or Kowa Scopes? It sure looks like a great method to digiscope, much better 
than trying to attach a digital camera via some kind of intermediate 
adapter.
Sally Scheer
Clinton MI
Far southwest Washtenaw Co
Bridgewater Twp 


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Subject: Re: Two "rambles" are much better than a non-existent Saturday paper - Ode to Allen
From: "Robert Setzer" <doctorbass AT comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:20:39 -0500
Thanks, Allen! 

 

Please pass my compliments to Chris Fisher. I'll probably get his SF (my old
"stomping ground) book just for fun. I wonder how many I will remember, or
if I saw them at the locations he probably mentions. Also, I'll pick up the
Nat Geog book - more fun reading and priced right! It always makes it more
fun knowing one of the authors/contributors.


I should note that part of my excitement may have come from the fact I was
"ready for" the Birds of Detroit. After looking at birds for the better part
of the year, I now have met and recognize so many birds (maybe 2/3 of the
ones in the book!) that I am very receptive to learning more about them. It
was fun! And, of course with the book (and your Guide book) and the birders
list, now I can learn where I might find new birds!

 

I actually had the book for some time. I picked it up at the Ren Cen where I
was working when they had a Detroit River Day in the Wintergarden. I wanted
to learn some Michigan birds someday though had little time then. (By the
way, Friends of the Detroit River were at the Ren Cen - I also saw them at
Hawk Watch - a good cause).

 

Interestingly, as I became an active birder this year, my first choices were
the more comprehensive field guides. Of course, these overwhelmed me
initially (as everyone on the list knows.). Had I but used Birds of Detroit
as my primary source, I probably would have had fewer questions and
correctly identified most of the birds I saw anyway. (Ah, but I am certain
it would not have been as exciting or as much fun!) 

 

On the other hand, I probably still would not have been ready to appreciate
the "stories" about each bird as I am now. I think I needed to reach some
level of "bird gestalt" before the subtleties meant anything.

 

From my personal experience, I first must know the name of something
(classification/taxonomy) and then I can ask questions about it, or observe
it and tell other people about what I have seen. Example: "table". You can
put things on it. Families gather around it. There are many kinds of tables.
Why are there so many kinds of tables? Where do you find tables? Who made
the first table? Name first - stories and questions later.

 

Now that I know so many birds by name, I want to learn all their stories.
Yes, I was ready! I am ready for more! 

 

What fun! Birds are so interesting!

 

Thanks,

Bob 

 

From: Allen T. Chartier [mailto:amazilia1 AT comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:16 AM
To: birders AT umich.edu
Subject: [birders] Re: Two "rambles" are much better than a non-existent
Saturday paper - Ode to Allen

 

Bob,

 

Thank you for the good review of Birds of Detroit. I feel that I should
clarify my role in the authorship of that book. Probably 90% of the text was
written by Chris Fisher, as there is a series of these books that came out
for major cities around the country (I also have Birds of Seattle and Birds
of San Francisco on my shelf). My role was originally as an editor of the
text, and the distribution charts, as well as selecting the 100 species to
be included. Every one of these guides has someone like me to do such
review, but my involvement and extent of changes became great enough that
the publishers felt that my name should be on it as co-author. I had nothing
to do with the illustrations, but agree they are well done. It is my feeling
that Birds of Detroit is a great first book to drag someone out into the
field, away from watching their feeders, to see what's out there. Then
"regular" field guides should be of interest. Beyond these field guides,
another book that I did have more to do with is National Geographic's
Complete Birds of North America. This book is basically the NGS field guide
expanded considerably, with much more text on each species and sidebars
covering some of the more difficult ID challenges. I was a contributing
author to this (hard cover) book and feel it is a very good product. I noted
last week that it is on sale for $9.99 at the Border's Bookstore in Ann
Arbor. I think you'd enjoy this one too, though it is not as "poetic" as
Chris Fisher's text in Birds of Detroit.

 

P.S. The "friend" of your Green-winged Teal is a female Gadwall.

 

Allen T. Chartier
amazilia1(at)comcast.net
Inkster, Michigan, USA

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Robert   Setzer 

To: birders AT umich.edu 

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:12 AM

Subject: [birders] Two "rambles" are much better than a non-existent
Saturday paper - Ode to Allen

 

I just posted a "ramble" on my blog site. 

 

http://drbobsbirdblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/2009-11-15-two-rambles-are-much-b
etter.html

 

I spoke of a new bird for me - a Green-winged Teal at Robert Long, and an
unexpected fall "butter-butt" at Holland Ponds. (Hey! This is my first year
ever to ID a warbler!) Not really giant records, but for me they were
exciting!

 

Anyway, the Yellow-rumped Warbler triggered a search thru my ID guides and I
again encountered Allen's "Birds of Detroit" and was so impressed I just had
to "ramble on" about it!

 

Note: I sub-title this an "Ode to Allen". I still remember the fact that as
a freshman at UC Berkeley that I flunked an English 101 essay talking about
somebody's poem "Ode to a Grecian Urn". We were supposed to analyze the
poem. I think what killed me was my title: "An Urn Analysis".

 

Something about English majors I guess. I think it is obvious why I never
went into English as major (thank goodness!). I think I might have written
before about the impact of teachers on your life. Hopefully you will better
appreciate my rambling more than they did!

 

Enjoy!

"Dr. Bob"

 

"Dr. Bob" Setzer

Streamwood Estates, Rochester Hills (Crooks & Hamlin), Oakland County

 

"Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day."   Teaching a man to "bird"
is much harder!

Blog: http://drbobsbirdblog.blogspot.com/

 

 

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Subject: Re: Hawk-dove encounter
From: richard.e.chase AT comcast.net
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:40:58 +0000 (UTC)

I'd seen a large bird (larger than the sparrows that often seek refuge 
there) fumbling around in the shrubs a couple of days before, but it emerged 
where I couldn't get an ID.  I suspect that it was the same mourning dove and 
was injured or sick, given that it wasn't perching with the rest of the doves 
in the big spruce in the back yard.  If so, that may be what let the hawk 
catch up with it over the house. 




     Dick Chase 

      Ann Arbor 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sally K Scheer"  
To: "richard e chase" , birders AT umich.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:06:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [birders] Hawk-dove encounter 

 
Surely a good bit of fortunate timing, for you and the cooper, not for the 
dove. Congrats. 


Sally Scheer 
Clinton MI 
Far southwest Washtenaw Co 
Bridgewater Twp 


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To: birders AT umich.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:35 AM 
Subject: [birders] Hawk-dove encounter 



.                        Monday evening, 16 November 2009 


Wow!  Sometimes you are lucky enough to be in the right place at the right 
time.  


As I stepped out the front door for a late afternoon walk, I flushed a young 
mourning dove from under the shrubs in front of our house.  It flew directly 
across the street and landed in a spruce tree in the neighbor's yard about 5 
feet above the ground.  Almost instantly, a Cooper's hawk appeared from my 
left, flying rapidly from somewhere beside or behind our house.  It was in 
straight, level flight, 5 feet above the ground and heading directly for the 
just-perched dove.  


The dove immediately flew up as the hawk arrived to hit it and headed over the 
next house to my left.  The hawk seemed to instantly change direction, caught 
up with the dove above the house, and hit it again.  Both plummeted to the 
ground behind the house.  I waited several tens of seconds.  Neither bird 
re-appeared, and I assume that the hawk got its prey. 


I had seen Cooper's hawks in the neighborhood frequently last year and the year 
before.  This is the first time I've seen one here this fall. 


    Dick Chase 
    Ann Arbor (southeast side) 
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Subject: Re: Hawk-dove encounter
From: "Sally K Scheer" <winerat AT villagecorner.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:06:10 -0500
Surely a good bit of fortunate timing, for you and the cooper, not for the 
dove. Congrats. 


Sally Scheer
Clinton MI
Far southwest Washtenaw Co
Bridgewater Twp
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  From: richard.e.chase AT comcast.net 
  To: birders AT umich.edu 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:35 AM
  Subject: [birders] Hawk-dove encounter


  .                        Monday evening, 16 November 2009


 Wow! Sometimes you are lucky enough to be in the right place at the right 
time. 


 As I stepped out the front door for a late afternoon walk, I flushed a young 
mourning dove from under the shrubs in front of our house. It flew directly 
across the street and landed in a spruce tree in the neighbor's yard about 5 
feet above the ground. Almost instantly, a Cooper's hawk appeared from my left, 
flying rapidly from somewhere beside or behind our house. It was in straight, 
level flight, 5 feet above the ground and heading directly for the just-perched 
dove. 


 The dove immediately flew up as the hawk arrived to hit it and headed over the 
next house to my left. The hawk seemed to instantly change direction, caught up 
with the dove above the house, and hit it again. Both plummeted to the ground 
behind the house. I waited several tens of seconds. Neither bird re-appeared, 
and I assume that the hawk got its prey. 


 I had seen Cooper's hawks in the neighborhood frequently last year and the 
year before. This is the first time I've seen one here this fall. 


      Dick Chase
      Ann Arbor (southeast side)


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Subject: Hawk-dove encounter
From: richard.e.chase AT comcast.net
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:35:49 +0000 (UTC)
.                        Monday evening, 16 November 2009 


Wow!  Sometimes you are lucky enough to be in the right place at the right 
time.  


As I stepped out the front door for a late afternoon walk, I flushed a young 
mourning dove from under the shrubs in front of our house.  It flew directly 
across the street and landed in a spruce tree in the neighbor's yard about 5 
feet above the ground.  Almost instantly, a Cooper's hawk appeared from my 
left, flying rapidly from somewhere beside or behind our house.  It was in 
straight, level flight, 5 feet above the ground and heading directly for the 
just-perched dove.  


The dove immediately flew up as the hawk arrived to hit it and headed over the 
next house to my left.  The hawk seemed to instantly change direction, caught 
up with the dove above the house, and hit it again.  Both plummeted to the 
ground behind the house.  I waited several tens of seconds.  Neither bird 
re-appeared, and I assume that the hawk got its prey. 


I had seen Cooper's hawks in the neighborhood frequently last year and the year 
before.  This is the first time I've seen one here this fall. 


    Dick Chase 
    Ann Arbor (southeast side) 


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Subject: "Birding the Soo " is free Washtenaw Audubon event, Wed., Nov 18th, Ann Arbor, all invited
From: Ray Stocking <rstocking AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:06:02 -0500
Birders and friends,

Please join us for the free program below.  This event is open to the
public; membership is not required.

Wednesday, Novenber 18, 2009, 7:30pm

Join Gary Siegrist and Lathe Claflin for an exciting program on winter
birding in the Sault Sainte Marie area of Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
Gary and Lathe have led many field trips in this area and have great
pictures of the birds and winter landscape.  See Snowy Owls, Great
Gray Owls, Northern Hawk Owls, Evening Grosbeaks, Gray Jays, Boreal
Chickadees, Sharp-tailed Grouse, and other winter wonders. Gary is the
People for Wildlife Coordinator for the Dahlem Conservancy in Jackson,
MI.  Lathe is a professor emeritus of the University of Michigan
Medical School and past president of Washtenaw Audubon.

In addition to the program, hear news of the latest critter sightings
and field trips, and enjoy tasty snacks following the program.

Hope to see you there.

Mike Sefton
Washtenaw Audubon Society
www.washtenawaudubon.org

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Subject: Belle Isle Monday
From: Ed Lewandowski <scotchman12year AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:38:50 -0800 (PST)
Hello Birders,
Spent a little time looking for the Saw Whet but must be looking in the wrong 
spot.  I have to check my old notes but the old "cousin it" tree I used to find 
it in is down, and the next likely spot close by was empty. 

 
Note worthy otherwise
Towhee 
GHO being harassed by Jays near where I expected the Saw Whet to be.
Cackling Goose across from the Detroit Yacht Club grazing with Canadas.
~ 300+ Canvasbacks moved back in at Blue Heron Lagoon
~80 Hoodies at the deep water fishing pond across from the yacht club
 
Happy Birding 
Ed Lewandowski
Auburn Hills




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Subject: HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (16 Nov 2009) 14 Raptors
From: reports AT hawkcount.org
Date: 16 Nov 2009 19:11:23 -0400
DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark
Brownstown, Michigan, USA
Daily Raptor Counts: Nov 16, 2009
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Species            Day's Count    Month Total   Season Total
------------------ ----------- -------------- --------------
Black Vulture                0              0              0
Turkey Vulture               1            713          54860
Osprey                       0              0             46
Bald Eagle                   0             12            109
Northern Harrier             1             16            162
Sharp-shinned Hawk           0             47           3251
Cooper's Hawk                0             45            325
Northern Goshawk             0              6             22
Red-shouldered Hawk          6            247            599
Broad-winged Hawk            0              0          20016
Red-tailed Hawk              6            882           2370
Rough-legged Hawk            0              8             13
Golden Eagle                 0             46            109
American Kestrel             0              1            439
Merlin                       0              0             39
Peregrine Falcon             0              2             34
Unknown Accipiter            0              0              0
Unknown Buteo                0              0             12
Unknown Falcon               0              0              0
Unknown Eagle                0              0              0
Unknown Raptor               0              1              1
Mississippi Kite             0              0              1
Swainson's Hawk              0              0              4

Total:                      14           2026          82412
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Observation start time: 10:00:00 
Observation end   time: 14:15:00 
Total observation time: 4.25 hours

Official Counter:        Seth Cutright

Observers:        Rodney Laura

Visitors:
I think only three people came by all day...two from Ohio were nice of them
to come all the way up.


Weather:
Just about 100% cloudy all day long.  10-15mph wind from the Northeast all
day.  Visibility was clear.  It was a slow day with not much going on.





 





Raptor Observations:
Only 14 raptors were counted.  6 Red-tailed Hawks and 6 Red-shouldered
Hawks made up most of the count.  Then 1 Northern Harrier and 1 Turkey
Vulture were the other 2 that were counted.  

Non-raptor Observations:
A number of Tundra Swans went by, and one adult Great Black-backed Gull
could be seen some times. 

Predictions:
More East-North-East winds for Tuesday.  Might be kind of slow, but also
sunny, so some movement might happen.  Count start time is about 10:00am
now...Or any time between 9:30-10:00am.  Then ending time is kind of
between 2:00-4:00pm.  Just depends on the birds and weather.
========================================================================
Report submitted by Seth Cutright (seth.cutright AT gmail.com)
SMRR- Lake Erie Metropark information may be found at:
http://www.smrr.net/



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Subject: RE: Ancient Murrelet
From: "Cendra Lynn" <cendra AT digitalrealm.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:19:09 -0500
I dunno, Robert.  I never heard of this bird until this past week.  Thank
you for the photos.  I can only hope I look half this good when I'm ancient.
How ancient is it, anyway?

 

Cendra Lynn, Linguist Birder

OWS, A2

 

From: Robert Epstein [mailto:Robepp AT comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:20 AM
To: birders AT umich.edu
Subject: [birders] Ancient Murrelet

 

For those of you who might be interested, I've posted a couple of photos of
the Ancient Murrelet seen in Berrien County, last Saturday on my web site.
Link is below.

 

Robert Epstein

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robepstein/4108904751/in/set-72157622813153860/

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Subject: RE: Owl Sounds
From: David Allen <whiteoakart AT att.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:14:46 -0800 (PST)
A warm thank you to all who responded to my owl sounds message. This is a great 
place to learn things. 


David A

 
From:David Allen
[mailto:whiteoakart AT att.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:22 AM
To: birders AT umich.edu
Subject: [birders] Owl Sounds
 
This
morning at 5:30 am while walking my dogs, I heard our neighborhood barred owl
calling his familiar 'who cooks for you' call.  After about 10 minutes,
his call was accompanied by a cacophony of noise from the same direction. 
There was a grunting noise, something that sounded like a cross between a dog's
bark and a crow's caw, and a series of short hoots.  Quickly followed by a
slightly lower pitch version of 'who cooks for you', that sounded to me like a
second owl.  This repeated several times with an interval of 15 to 30
seconds in between.  It even caught my dogs' attention, who normally
ignore the natural sounds.  After about 5 minutes of this, the original
"who cooks for you' call returned all by itself.

I have never heard anything quite like this before.  Any ideas on what I
was hearing?  Do barred owls make this kind of barking, grunting noise?

David A
Manchester
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Subject: Saw-whet Owl at Belle Isle
From: "Santner, Steven" <santners AT karmanos.org>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:28:45 -0500
	All:

	The Detroit Audubon field trip yesterday (Nov 15) saw a Saw-whet
Owl in its traditional tangle on Belle Isle.  The tangle is about 1/4 to
1/2 mile from the parking area on Woodside Dr, in the southeastern part
of the island.  This is by far the earliest I've ever had the bird here
although I know they have been in migration for a few weeks now.  I
don't know for sure that this bird will winter here but this tangle
should be checked if you're in the area.  There was one (maybe even a
pair) of Great Horned Owls in the vicinity as well.

	Steve Santner


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Subject: Magnificent collection of photos by Andrew Zuckerman
From: Maryse Brouwers <maryse734 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:47:24 -0800 (PST)
http://birdbook.org/

Most of the individual bird photos give you links on the right to several other 
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Subject: Ancient Murrelet
From: "Robert Epstein" <Robepp AT comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:20:16 -0500
For those of you who might be interested, I've posted a couple of photos of the 
Ancient Murrelet seen in Berrien County, last Saturday on my web site. Link is 
below. 


Robert Epstein

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Subject: Peregrine Falcon - Washtenaw County
From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99 AT comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:38:54 -0500
Vince Ste-Marie called me and asked me to post this.  At 10:30 Monday he 
is watching a Peregrine Falcon at the north end of the Schneider Rd. pond 
(Washtenaw County).  This is 0.2 miles north of Pleasant Lake Road.  The 
bird has been there for a while, flying back and forth over the pond.

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Subject: Adult Red-headed Woodpecker - NE Oakland County
From: "rockysq AT juno.com" <rockysq@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:33:25 GMT
I found an adult Red-headed Woodpecker at the corner of Leonard and Haven 
Roads, in the tree line on the west side of Lake George. Lake George is located 
just west of the town of Leonard in the very northeast corner of Oakland 
County. A nice sighting at this (dreary) time of year. Is this location in the 
Oakland County Christmas Bird Count area? 

Lapeer Audubon members are holding their Christmas Bird Count on Saturday, 
January 2nd. There are still a few (wonderful) areas open. If you're interested 
in helping, please let me know. 

Good Birding!
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Subject: Re: Two "rambles" are much better than a non-existent Saturday paper - Ode to Allen
From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1 AT comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:16:28 -0500
Bob,

Thank you for the good review of Birds of Detroit. I feel that I should clarify 
my role in the authorship of that book. Probably 90% of the text was written by 
Chris Fisher, as there is a series of these books that came out for major 
cities around the country (I also have Birds of Seattle and Birds of San 
Francisco on my shelf). My role was originally as an editor of the text, and 
the distribution charts, as well as selecting the 100 species to be included. 
Every one of these guides has someone like me to do such review, but my 
involvement and extent of changes became great enough that the publishers felt 
that my name should be on it as co-author. I had nothing to do with the 
illustrations, but agree they are well done. It is my feeling that Birds of 
Detroit is a great first book to drag someone out into the field, away from 
watching their feeders, to see what's out there. Then "regular" field guides 
should be of interest. Beyond these field guides, another book that I did have 
more to do with is National Geographic's Complete Birds of North America. This 
book is basically the NGS field guide expanded considerably, with much more 
text on each species and sidebars covering some of the more difficult ID 
challenges. I was a contributing author to this (hard cover) book and feel it 
is a very good product. I noted last week that it is on sale for $9.99 at the 
Border's Bookstore in Ann Arbor. I think you'd enjoy this one too, though it is 
not as "poetic" as Chris Fisher's text in Birds of Detroit. 


P.S. The "friend" of your Green-winged Teal is a female Gadwall.

Allen T. Chartier
amazilia1(at)comcast.net
Inkster, Michigan, USA
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  From: Robert Setzer 
  To: birders AT umich.edu 
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:12 AM
 Subject: [birders] Two "rambles" are much better than a non-existent Saturday 
paper - Ode to Allen 



  I just posted a "ramble" on my blog site. 

   

 
http://drbobsbirdblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/2009-11-15-two-rambles-are-much-better.html 


   

 I spoke of a new bird for me - a Green-winged Teal at Robert Long, and an 
unexpected fall "butter-butt" at Holland Ponds. (Hey! This is my first year 
ever to ID a warbler!) Not really giant records, but for me they were exciting! 


   

 Anyway, the Yellow-rumped Warbler triggered a search thru my ID guides and I 
again encountered Allen's "Birds of Detroit" and was so impressed I just had to 
"ramble on" about it! 


   

 Note: I sub-title this an "Ode to Allen". I still remember the fact that as a 
freshman at UC Berkeley that I flunked an English 101 essay talking about 
somebody's poem "Ode to a Grecian Urn". We were supposed to analyze the poem. I 
think what killed me was my title: "An Urn Analysis". 


   

 Something about English majors I guess. I think it is obvious why I never went 
into English as major (thank goodness!). I think I might have written before 
about the impact of teachers on your life. Hopefully you will better appreciate 
my rambling more than they did! 


   

  Enjoy!

  "Dr. Bob"

   

  "Dr. Bob" Setzer

  Streamwood Estates, Rochester Hills (Crooks & Hamlin), Oakland County

   

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much harder! 


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Subject: Two "rambles" are much better than a non-existent Saturday paper - Ode to Allen
From: "Robert Setzer" <doctorbass AT comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:12:51 -0500
I just posted a "ramble" on my blog site. 

 

http://drbobsbirdblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/2009-11-15-two-rambles-are-much-b
etter.html

 

I spoke of a new bird for me - a Green-winged Teal at Robert Long, and an
unexpected fall "butter-butt" at Holland Ponds. (Hey! This is my first year
ever to ID a warbler!) Not really giant records, but for me they were
exciting!

 

Anyway, the Yellow-rumped Warbler triggered a search thru my ID guides and I
again encountered Allen's "Birds of Detroit" and was so impressed I just had
to "ramble on" about it!

 

Note: I sub-title this an "Ode to Allen". I still remember the fact that as
a freshman at UC Berkeley that I flunked an English 101 essay talking about
somebody's poem "Ode to a Grecian Urn". We were supposed to analyze the
poem. I think what killed me was my title: "An Urn Analysis".

 

Something about English majors I guess. I think it is obvious why I never
went into English as major (thank goodness!). I think I might have written
before about the impact of teachers on your life. Hopefully you will better
appreciate my rambling more than they did!

 

Enjoy!

"Dr. Bob"

 

"Dr. Bob" Setzer

Streamwood Estates, Rochester Hills (Crooks & Hamlin), Oakland County

 

"Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day."   Teaching a man to "bird"
is much harder!

Blog:  
http://drbobsbirdblog.blogspot.com/

 

 



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Subject: LEM
From: Ken Willard <missionv19 AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:23:25 -0500
Hi all!  We went to Lake Erie Metropark today and I saw some Brown  
Creepers, Carolina Wrens, Golden-Crowned Kinglets and more of the  
usual stuff.  What we really went for is the hawkwatch, we saw 6  
Golden Eagles and 2 Red-Tails before we left at around 2:30.  I would  
like to know from the other people that were there today if anything  
came through after we left.

Ken

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Subject: Eagle and RB Nuthatch
From: "bflylady27 AT netzero.com" <bflylady27@netzero.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:52:21 GMT
Friday while visiting my daughter at Lake Victoria which is close to 
Laingsburg, Northeast of Lansing, I saw a mature bald eagle in her front yard. 
She also has a pair of RB nuthatches hanging around her feeders. Connie 

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Subject: Re: SEOs in Superior Township Washtenaw County
From: curt powell <curt.curt AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:34:16 -0800 (PST)
We were out there a couple hours later and did not see SE Owls, but did have 
point blank views of a Merlin.  We also glimpsed a large but distant falcon, 
but unfortunately did not get a good look.  We also saw many Snow Buntings, but 
saw a large flock of Longspurs too.  





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Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 12:11:18 PM
Subject: [birders] SEOs in Superior Township Washtenaw County

Shortly before 11 am Sunday morning I found two Short-eared Owls in the 
Gottfredsen/ Vreeland road area of Superior Township (Washtenaw County). I 
first saw them in rather high in flight but they came down lower and seemed to 
be surveying fields in the area. They seemed to be particularly interested in 
the remnant patches of soybeans that are out there in some places. One of the 
Short-eared Owls, at one point, was being severed harrassed by Crows while 
flying about. 

 
Besides the SEOs, there were large flocks of Snow Buntings with many fewer 
numbers of both Horned Larks and Lapland Longspurs also in the area. I estimate 
there were at least 500 Snow Buntings. I got to see an impressive sight when 
almost the whole total of them  were put up into the sky by a Northern 
Harrier that swept hunting through the fields. 

 
On nearby Harris road to the west I found a Fox Sparrow in some brushy patches 
along the road. 

 
Roger Kuhlman
Ann Arbor, Michigan
11/15/2009
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Subject: Re: OT cleaning cement bird baths
From: Crystal Keller <crystal AT kellerfarm.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:28:35 -0500
I suggest not to use bleach unless you are confident you can rinse it  
out completely.  Cement is porous and can hold substances.  We use  
vinegar to clean feeders and birdbaths.

Crystal Keller

On Nov 15, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Brucemac1 AT aol.com wrote:

Hey Vicky...

I don't know what others use, but I'd recommend household bleach. I  
pour the bleach into a dry bath-bowl. Then I use a scrub brush to  
spread the bleach around and clean out the detritus. Rinse clean and  
store for the winter.
For the painted deco models, you may want to try a little Fantastic.  
Straight bleach my be too tough for the paint finish.
During the season, I use 'Chlorox Clean-Up' regularly. It is a diluted  
form of bleach and the chlorine is an effective disinfectant. Maybe  
twice weekly, I'll simply spray a couple squirts of Chlorox Clean-Up  
onto the surface of the water in the birdbath. "JUST A COUPLE  
SQUIRTS...!!" Don't overdo it.
You'll be able to detect the chlorine odor for 20 or 30 minutes.  
Chlorine dissipates quickly, especially in the sunlight.
  It does wonders in keeping the water clear and inhibits growth of  
algae, etc. The birdbath doesn't become as fouled up so it's much  
easier to maintain.

Bruce Macdonald, Harrow, Ontario,  N shore of Lake Erie, 26 miles  
south of Detroit/Windsor


In a message dated 11/15/2009 11:54:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
vfoltz AT verizon.net 

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Hello everyone,
I have several cement bird baths that need cleaning and putting up for  
the winter (I have a heated one I use during the winter months).

I am wondering what is safe to use to scrub these?  Two of the the  
three I purchased at art fairs and they have painted surfaces.  The  
other is the plain old fashioned kind.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated!

Vicky Foltz
Ft. Wayne IN


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Subject: Re: OT cleaning cement bird baths
From: Brucemac1 AT aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:18:13 EST
Hey Vicky...
 
I don't know what others use, but I'd recommend household bleach. I pour  
the bleach into a dry bath-bowl. Then I use a scrub brush to spread the 
bleach around and clean out the detritus. Rinse clean and store for the winter. 

For the painted deco models, you may want to try a little Fantastic.  
Straight bleach my be too tough for the paint finish. 
During the season, I use 'Chlorox Clean-Up' regularly. It is a diluted form 
 of bleach and the chlorine is an effective disinfectant. Maybe twice 
weekly, I'll simply spray a couple squirts of Chlorox Clean-Up onto the surface 

of the  water in the birdbath. "JUST A COUPLE SQUIRTS...!!" Don't overdo it. 
You'll be able to detect the chlorine odor for 20 or 30 minutes. Chlorine  
dissipates quickly, especially in the sunlight. 
 It does wonders in keeping the water clear and inhibits growth of  algae, 
etc. The birdbath doesn't become as fouled up so it's much easier to  
maintain.
 
Bruce Macdonald, Harrow, Ontario,  N shore of Lake Erie, 26 miles  south of 
Detroit/Windsor
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/15/2009 11:54:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
vfoltz AT verizon.net writes:

Hello  everyone,
I have several cement bird baths that need cleaning and putting  up for the 
winter (I have a heated one I use during the winter  months).

I am wondering what is safe to use to scrub these?  Two  of the the three I 
purchased at art fairs and they have painted  surfaces.  The other is the 
plain old fashioned kind. 

Any  suggestions would be much appreciated!

Vicky Foltz
Ft. Wayne  IN


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Subject: (Fwd) [Mich-listers] Berrien County Ancient Murrelet--11/15 NO
From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99 AT comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:46:05 -0500
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Greetings,

A number of folks have been calling Love Creek this morning Sunday 11/15,
in regards to this bird...I just talked to Jon Wuepper who was at the 
pier
this morning and as far as he's heard it has NOT been seen this morning.
There is more wind this morning and the end of the pier by the Lighthouse
is inaccessible due to wave action. If anyone has more info feel free to
call Love Creek Nature Center  AT  269-471-2617 or respond here.

Good Luck,

Pat Underwood 

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Subject: Re: Injured swan at Wetzel
From: "Maxine Biwer" <biwer AT witchmail.zzn.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:42:18 -0500




Subject: SEOs in Superior Township Washtenaw County
From: Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:11:18 -0500
Shortly before 11 am Sunday morning I found two Short-eared Owls in the 
Gottfredsen/ Vreeland road area of Superior Township (Washtenaw County). I 
first saw them in rather high in flight but they came down lower and seemed to 
be surveying fields in the area. They seemed to be particularly interested in 
the remnant patches of soybeans that are out there in some places. One of the 
Short-eared Owls, at one point, was being severed harrassed by Crows while 
flying about. 


 

Besides the SEOs, there were large flocks of Snow Buntings with many fewer 
numbers of both Horned Larks and Lapland Longspurs also in the area. I estimate 
there were at least 500 Snow Buntings. I got to see an impressive sight when 
almost the whole total of them were put up into the sky by a Northern Harrier 
that swept hunting through the fields. 


 

On nearby Harris road to the west I found a Fox Sparrow in some brushy patches 
along the road. 


 

Roger Kuhlman

Ann Arbor, Michigan

11/15/2009
 		 	   		  

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Subject: Injured swan at Wetzel
From: "Marilynn" <tmarilynn AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:04:21 -0500
At Wetzel State Rec Area in Macomb today I saw a mute swan with a broken
wing in the first pond on the right of the entrance. He was swimming. Are
there local rehabbers who could help?  My husband checked the DNR website
and it gave a list of rehabbers but when he called they said the bird
would have to be brought in and that is quite beyond us.

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Subject: Ancient Murrelet - not so far today
From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99 AT comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:49:48 -0500
Jon Wuepper reports that the Ancient Murrelet at Tiscornia Park, St. 
Joseph, Michigan, has not been seen today through 10:30am.

Bruce


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Subject: Murrelet photos
From: Andy Johnson <andysj531 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:51:03 -0800 (PST)
If anyone's interested, I've got some murrelet photos on grovestreet.
Andy



      

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Subject: Snow Buntings (Friday)
From: Andy Johnson <andysj531 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:52:58 -0800 (PST)
My apologies for the late post. For the record though, there was a flock of 
about 30-40 Snow Buntings over the field on the east side of Schill Rd., just 
south of Austin. Roger W. and I saw these rather early birds while looking for 
the w.w. dove, but they never landed. 

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Subject: (Minnesota) Sax-Zim Bog Winter Bird Festival
From: Michael Hendrickson <mlhendrickson AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:40:07 -0800 (PST)
Hello

Well its that time of the year to think about winter and
one of the great things about winter is winter birding!!  Sax-Zim Bog
is always on the radar for birders from all over North America and Europe who 
come and search the bog to see the following birds: Sharp-tailed Grouse, Ruffed 
Grouse, Rough-legged Hawks, occasionally a Snowy Owl, Northern Hawk Owls, Great 
Gray Owls, American Three-toed and Black-backed Woodpeckers, Northern Shrikes, 
Boreal Chickadees, Gray Jays, Pine Grosbeaks, 

Purple Finches, Red & White-winged Crossbills, Common and Hoary
Redpolls and Evening Grosbeaks.  Down in Duluth birders can search for
Bohemian Waxwings or possibly a Varied Thrush or a Townsend Solitaire. In the 
Duluth Harbor in the early dawn hours or at dusk Snowy Owls during most winters 
can be found hunting or roosting out on the bay ice. If there is open water in 
the canal park area birders can search among the hundreds of Common Goldeneyes 
for a Long-tailed Duck or Harlequin Duck. Also gull species like Thayer's Gull, 
Iceland Gull and Glaucous Gulls can be found at times sitting out among the 
Herring Gulls on the break walls in the Canal Park area but most birders head 
over to 

the WI Landfill where hundred and at times 1000s of gulls will
congregate at the land fill.  Of course Gyrfalcons will be on the radar
for most birders and occasionally Duluth and Superior harbors will
attract a Gyrfalcon that feed on the pigeons around the grain elevators during 
the winter season. Out in Aitkin County the main highlight is watching 30 or so 
Sharp-tailed Grouse do some 

early courting and dancing in mid February!  Aitkin County also offers
better odds than Sax Zim Bog in finding a Snowy Owl or possibly a Great
Gray Owl north of Palisade along CR 18.  

If you want to see
some great winter birds, be led by some of the best birders in the
state, eat some of the best food around and listen to some great
speakers than head up to Meadowlands, Minnesota for our third season!!

February 12-14th 2010 will be the third annual Sax-Zim Bog Winter Bird 
Festival. 


All the festival activities will be held at the Meadowlands community center in 
Meadowlands, MN. 


This years festival speakers will be Kim Risen and Al Batt. Kim Risen will 
presenting a talk on Friday Feb. 12 called Mexico" Birding Wonderland and Al 
Batt will be speaking on Saturday Feb. 13. 

We brought Al Batt back because he was a such a huge hit with the
locals last year that those that missed his presentation asked if we
bring him back!

The field trip destinations include Sax-Zim Bog, Aitkin County and Duluth & WI 
Landfill. This year we will be offering our first workshop led by Sparky 
Stensaas and Shawn Zierman called "Winter Pixels: Bird and Nature Photography 
in the White Season" . I added some new field trip leaders this year and 
hopefully will have 3 leaders per trip to help get everyone on birds. 


There
will also be local craftsmen and area bird clubs for birders to
purchase one of their products or learn about some of our local bird
clubs like Duluth Audubon and Hawk Ridge.

So far the season is
looking good with several sightings of Northern Hawk Owls (16-18 owls
so far) and I am sure more will be found as winter moves in and more
importantly when deer hunting season finishes up. Lots of finches are moving 
around especially White-winged 

and Red Crossbills and Pine Grosbeaks and redpolls are beginning to
move down into northern Minnesota in fair numbers.  Last year we saw
lots of good birds and the main highlights were the Northern Hawk Owls
and a Boreal Owl plus all the winter bird specialties coming to the
many feeders in the bog.  Speaking of feeders there will be once again
3 main feeding stations in the Sax-Zim Bog area.  These birding
stations will be located at Paul Mueller's farm, Helen & Dave
Abramson's residence and the Morse's residence. All these feeding
stations can be found on the Sax-Zim Bog website under feeding
stations.  I am also sure there will be a few deer rib stations found
on the Admiral Rd, Arkola Rd and Owl Avenue just like last year that
attracted Boreal Chickadees and other goodies!

The two main locations to link up to the Sax-Zim Bog Festival website and 
register for the festival are the following locations. 


1. MOU website: Look in "Birding Minnesota" and click on Sax-Zim Bog Festival: 
http://moumn.org/sax-zim/index.html 


2. My Blog: http://colderbythelakebirding.blogspot.com/ ( Look on the left hand 
side column ) 


If you have not attended this festival you are missing out on home town flavor 
festival that is small in some ways but HUGE on the birds we see! 


Thanks

Mike
 
Mike Hendrickson
Duluth, Minnesota
Website: http://webpages.charter.net/mmhendrickson/
Blog: http://colderbythelakebirding.blogspot.com/



      

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Subject: HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (14 Nov 2009) 7 Raptors
From: reports AT hawkcount.org
Date: 14 Nov 2009 22:11:57 -0400
DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark
Brownstown, Michigan, USA
Daily Raptor Counts: Nov 14, 2009
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Species            Day's Count    Month Total   Season Total
------------------ ----------- -------------- --------------
Black Vulture                0              0              0
Turkey Vulture               0            712          54859
Osprey                       0              0             46
Bald Eagle                   1             12            109
Northern Harrier             0             15            161
Sharp-shinned Hawk           0             47           3251
Cooper's Hawk                1             45            325
Northern Goshawk             0              6             22
Red-shouldered Hawk          1            241            593
Broad-winged Hawk            0              0          20016
Red-tailed Hawk              4            876           2364
Rough-legged Hawk            0              8             13
Golden Eagle                 0             46            109
American Kestrel             0              1            439
Merlin                       0              0             39
Peregrine Falcon             0              2             34
Unknown Accipiter            0              0              0
Unknown Buteo                0              0             12
Unknown Falcon               0              0              0
Unknown Eagle                0              0              0
Unknown Raptor               0              1              1
Mississippi Kite             0              0              1
Swainson's Hawk              0              0              4

Total:                       7           2012          82398
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Observation start time: 09:30:00 
Observation end   time: 15:30:00 
Total observation time: 6 hours

Official Counter:        Seth Cutright

Observers:        Russ Edmonds

Visitors:
Thanks to all who came by.


Weather:
It was very slow today.  Winds were from the East-South-East.  They were
around 3-6mph.  Visibility was some what clear, but with some fog and haze
in the background.  

  



 

Raptor Observations:
Only 7 birds went by.

Non-raptor Observations:
My first Pine Siskin of the season went over today.  

Predictions:
Sunday should be fine, and Monday better I think. 
========================================================================
Report submitted by Seth Cutright (seth.cutright AT gmail.com)
SMRR- Lake Erie Metropark information may be found at:
http://www.smrr.net/



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Subject: Ancient Murrelet at Tiscornia Beach
From: ddarm AT umich.edu
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:19:38 -0500
We arrived at the pier at about 3 PM and had very clear scope views of  
the bird. From the time we arrived until the time we left, the bird  
moved slowly northward and farther out until by the time we left at  
about 4:45 PM, it was no longer visible. While we were out there,  
folks also spotted at least 2 jaegers__ quite far out and  
unidentifiable to species.

It would be nice to have a report from those who were on the pier  
later than 4:30, especially if the bird was seen after that.

Thanks to Tim Baerwald for a great find!

Dea

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City Ornithologist
Natural Area Preservation
Field Operations Service Unit
Public Services Area
City of Ann Arbor
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Ann Arbor, MI 48105
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Subject: S-e Owl - Oakland County
From: James Fox <93fox AT earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:46:40 -0500
I saw a Short-eared Owl in the field behind the tot lot at Indian  
Springs Metropark at about four thirty this afternoon.  It flew behind  
some trees and I could not relocate it.  I biked the hike-bike trail  
in the hopes of seeing the Ruffed Grouse but did not see it.  I heard  
a Barred Owl behind the Nature Center after dark, what was interesting  
about this is that it responded to my Screech Owl imitations.  When I  
came for the owl walk in September the Barred Owls first responded to  
Eastern Screech Owl calls as well.  I wonder if they are hoping to  
catch some dinner.

James Fox
Farmington Hills

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Subject: Vreeland Road - Washtenaw and Thorn Lake - Jackson
From: Don Henise <don_henise AT ntm.org>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:42:29 -0500
Well - last night when we discussed what we wanted to do today, one of my
suggestions was to go to Tiscornia Park on Lake Michigan to do a lake watch.
Unfortunately we decided to stay local (didn't think the winds would be the
best for a lake watch). So ... while everyone else was chasing the Ancient
Murrelet, we were birding on Vreeland Road northeast of Ann Arbor and then
at Thorn Lake in southeast Jackson County.

We spent a couple of hours on Vreeland Road just watching the flocks of
field birds fly around. There was a large concentration of birds in the
field on the south side of Vreeland 1/4 mile west of Gotfredson. Most of the
time the birds were several hundred yards out in the field and not visible
in the grasses. Periodically the whole group would flush and fly around the
field.  We estimated more then 1000 birds in mixed flocks of Horned Larks,
Lapland Longspurs and Snow Buntings. At one point a group of longspurs
landed in the corn stubble closer to the farm buildings at the west end of
the field and closer to Vreeland Road, so we were able to observe many of
them in our scope. We only ever saw the Snow Buntings in flight way out in
the field. I would say there were 300 - 500 Longspurs and more then 50 Snow
Buntings in the flocks.

We arrived at Thorn Lake about 1:30 and carefully scanned the lake. The
highlights were 2 Snow Geese and 2 Cackling Geese. One of the Snow Geese (an
immature) was noticeable smaller than the other, but the bill and head
structure were consistent with Snow Goose. 

Other waterfowl were Canada Goose(1000+), Mute Swan(12), Gadwall(30+),
American Wigeon(20), Mallard(200), Canvasback(30), Redhead(20), Ring-necked
Duck(1000), Lesser Scaup(2), Hooded Merganser(30), Ruddy Duck(30),
Pied-billed Grebe(2), Double-crested Cormorant(1), American Coot(100), and
Bonaparte's Gull(3).

 
 
Don & Robyn Henise

Librarians
New Tribes Bible Institute
Jackson, MI
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Subject: Ancient Murrelet - St. Joseph, MI
From: Ray Stocking <rstocking AT gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:36:24 -0500
Confirmed sighting this morning of this GEM of a bird.  Located along
Tisconia Beach in the North Pier area along Lake Michigan.  Outstanding
views reported so far.

Go get it!!!!

Ray


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Subject: Dearborn birds junco & red bellied woodpecker
From: Janet Damian Lapko <jdamianlapko AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:19:50 -0800 (PST)
I think I'm happy to see that the Juncos are back, although I'm not a big fan 
of winter! 


A red bellied woodpecker surprised me yesterday afternoon.  Never saw one in my 
yard before.  I think the habitat destruction at the Rouge River sewer overflow 
sites has sent birds and animals our way.  


Used to have only fox squirrels in this neighborhood, now we have eastern gray, 
black, and even southern flying squirrels. 


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Subject: Re: Owl Sounds
From: Birds891357 AT aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:46:35 EST
It sounds like two barred owls having a "conversation."  When they do  
that, it sounds sort of like a low throaty laugh with an ascending pitch.
  Mark O'Keefe


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Subject: A new Birding TV show
From: "Marys1000" <marys1000 AT woh.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:38:23 -0500
I have mixed feelings about this somehow.



http://www.zeiss-optronik.com/__c1256bcf0020be5f.nsf/Contents-Frame/2417a471a555ef5185257562005d69c1?opendocument&click= 


 http://www.birdingadventures.com/

http://www.hawkowlsnest.com/2009/02/new-birding-tv-show-birding-adventures.html



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Subject: Re: question/comments about Pileated Woodpeckers
From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland AT pasty.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:04:59 -0500
Pat: As I've already posted here and on our BWAS list there are a pair here in 
our area the past few years! They are mostly seen on the border of Casco & 
China Twps. in the big old mature woods between Lindsey and St. Clair Hiway. I 
almost hit one last years NAMC count in that area when it flew out across the 
road right in front of us. Our youngest son lives east of this spot about 2 
miles and has had one in his yard now & then. We had one in our yard here but 
only once, a year ago March! (Dying to get a photo of one on the premises!) 
Larry Fowler who lives about 3 miles west from us has seen a pair just 
recently! Friends of ours who live up near Richmond adjoining the new Columbus 
Twp. Park and along the Belle River have had one at their feeder in recent 
years. I wonder if we are seeing the same birds or are there more then one 
pair? I bet there is. Some years back a pair was reported up near Goodells, and 
the County Park. I believe Harriet Davidson went and saw that one. Kay Smith 
and party often get them at Algonac State Park for the NAMC. Years ago they 
were seen in the "big" woods NE of New Baltimore but that woods is disappearing 
with development. Either way it appears these birds move around quite a bit 
from larger woodlots to other larger woodlots. I think this species is taking 
back areas of proper habitat in general and not from the Ash borer killed trees 
per se, but it seems that helps! The one we had here was pounding away at a big 
dead Ash at the back of our property. These birds are shy and usually duck 
around the back of a tree so as not to be seen. They sure can be heard though! 
This species was quite scarce at all around these parts and only the past 10 
years or so has seen increase in sightings. Only some red rather then full 
crest red on head (if not an immature) denotes a female. I can send you off 
list good photos of each sex taken at our up north Kalkaska county property 
where this species is and has been seen regularly. Our oldest son lives just 
down the road from our place up there and had 6 in his yard this spring! 

 They do tend to be a riparian favoring species but up north can be found 
around most any lake. (St. Clair county has NO natural lakes!) 


     Russ Emmons, Casco Twp. St. Clair county
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pat Burden 
  To: birders AT umich.edu 
  Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:29 AM
  Subject: [birders] question/comments about Pileated Woodpeckers


 I am aware of Pileated Woodpeckers being spotted along the Black River 
corridor in the Port Huron State Game Area and in areas directly adjacent to 
it. This past September, I was told about a sighting along Mill Creek just 
south of Yale. I mentioned it in a column I wrote for the Yale newspaper and 
have had several people tell me that it is not that unusual to see them in that 
area. This morning, I received a phone call from a friend who lives in the city 
limits of Yale who had one at her suet feeder. 


 When I spoke with my friend this morning, she said that the bird she saw 
showed some red on its head, but did not have a full red crest. I wondered 
about juveniles - birds that were born this year - and how much red they would 
show on their crest at this point. 


 I started doing some reading about them and the one thing that I found quite 
unbelievable was the estimated acreage a pair needs to successfully raise 
young. One source said 100 acres of woods for each pair! In Bent's life 
histories, he speaks of seeing pairs every 2-3 miles along a river and thought 
that was about the saturation point for these birds. 


 I know there has been theorizing about an increase in the number of 
woodpeckers overall due to the die off of trees attributed to the Emerald Ash 
Borer, but has this been actually documented at all with regards to the 
Pileated Woodpecker? 


 What has been the experience of others on this list with the increase or 
decrease of this species in recent years? As always, I appreciate any comments. 


  thanks,
  Pat B
  Yale & Melvin, MI
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Subject: question/comments about Pileated Woodpeckers
From: Pat Burden <tallerpat AT aol.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:29:02 -0500
I am aware of Pileated Woodpeckers being spotted along the Black River corridor 
in the Port Huron State Game Area and in areas directly adjacent to it. This 
past September, I was told about a sighting along Mill Creek just south of 
Yale. I mentioned it in a column I wrote for the Yale newspaper and have had 
several people tell me that it is not that unusual to see them in that area. 
This morning, I received a phone call from a friend who lives in the city 
limits of Yale who had one at her suet feeder. 


When I spoke with my friend this morning, she said that the bird she saw showed 
some red on its head, but did not have a full red crest. I wondered about 
juveniles - birds that were born this year - and how much red they would show 
on their crest at this point. 


I started doing some reading about them and the one thing that I found quite 
unbelievable was the estimated acreage a pair needs to successfully raise 
young. One source said 100 acres of woods for each pair! In Bent's life 
histories, he speaks of seeing pairs every 2-3 miles along a river and thought 
that was about the saturation point for these birds. 

 
I know there has been theorizing about an increase in the number of woodpeckers 
overall due to the die off of trees attributed to the Emerald Ash Borer, but 
has this been actually documented at all with regards to the Pileated 
Woodpecker? 


What has been the experience of others on this list with the increase or 
decrease of this species in recent years? As always, I appreciate any comments. 


thanks,
Pat B
Yale & Melvin, MI


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Subject: RE: Owl Sounds
From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland AT pasty.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:14:02 -0500
Yes as Sally says. Territorial and/or alarm calls also. Long-eared Owls do this 
too, cat like, really creepy sound! Sometimes Eastern Screech and other species 
make these calls if disturbed, agitated, threatened. 

The "who who cooks for you" sound of the Barred Owl though is quite distinctive 
and easy to hear from far away! 


Russ Emmons, St. Clair county
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sally K Scheer 
  To: birders AT umich.edu 
  Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:19 PM
  Subject: [birders] RE: Owl Sounds


 Sounds like interacting male/female. The who cooks for you is more a rhythm of 
sounds than the intelligible sound of the words, Cendra. 

  Sally Scheer
  North of Rogers City
  Presque Isle & Bearinger Townships
  on the Shore of Lake Huron

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Cendra Lynn 
    To: birders AT umich.edu 
    Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:45 PM
    Subject: [birders] RE: Owl Sounds


 Well, I dunno, David. I just pulled up the Cornell site, 
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Barred_Owl/id , and heard all that you 
described except anything that even vaguely resembled "who cooks for you"!! My 
dogs alerted to it, so the barking, grunting noise was definitely there. One 
has to wonder what actually they are doing to cause them to make such sounds! 


     

    Cendra Lynn, Newest Barred Owl Fan

    OWS, A2

     

    From: David Allen [mailto:whiteoakart AT att.net] 
    Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:22 AM
    To: birders AT umich.edu
    Subject: [birders] Owl Sounds

     

 This morning at 5:30 am while walking my dogs, I heard our neighborhood barred 
owl calling his familiar 'who cooks for you' call. After about 10 minutes, his 
call was accompanied by a cacophony of noise from the same direction. There was 
a grunting noise, something that sounded like a cross between a dog's bark and 
a crow's caw, and a series of short hoots. Quickly followed by a slightly lower 
pitch version of 'who cooks for you', that sounded to me like a second owl. 
This repeated several times with an interval of 15 to 30 seconds in between. It 
even caught my dogs' attention, who normally ignore the natural sounds. After 
about 5 minutes of this, the original "who cooks for you' call returned all by 
itself. 


 I have never heard anything quite like this before. Any ideas on what I was 
hearing? Do barred owls make this kind of barking, grunting noise? 


    David A
    Manchester

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Subject: RE: Owl Sounds
From: "Sally K Scheer" <winerat AT villagecorner.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:19:02 -0500
Sounds like interacting male/female. The who cooks for you is more a rhythm of 
sounds than the intelligible sound of the words, Cendra. 

Sally Scheer
North of Rogers City
Presque Isle & Bearinger Townships
on the Shore of Lake Huron

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  From: Cendra Lynn 
  To: birders AT umich.edu 
  Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:45 PM
  Subject: [birders] RE: Owl Sounds


 Well, I dunno, David. I just pulled up the Cornell site, 
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Barred_Owl/id , and heard all that you 
described except anything that even vaguely resembled "who cooks for you"!! My 
dogs alerted to it, so the barking, grunting noise was definitely there. One 
has to wonder what actually they are doing to cause them to make such sounds! 


   

  Cendra Lynn, Newest Barred Owl Fan

  OWS, A2

   

  From: David Allen [mailto:whiteoakart AT att.net] 
  Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:22 AM
  To: birders AT umich.edu
  Subject: [birders] Owl Sounds

   

 This morning at 5:30 am while walking my dogs, I heard our neighborhood barred 
owl calling his familiar 'who cooks for you' call. After about 10 minutes, his 
call was accompanied by a cacophony of noise from the same direction. There was 
a grunting noise, something that sounded like a cross between a dog's bark and 
a crow's caw, and a series of short hoots. Quickly followed by a slightly lower 
pitch version of 'who cooks for you', that sounded to me like a second owl. 
This repeated several times with an interval of 15 to 30 seconds in between. It 
even caught my dogs' attention, who normally ignore the natural sounds. After 
about 5 minutes of this, the original "who cooks for you' call returned all by 
itself. 


 I have never heard anything quite like this before. Any ideas on what I was 
hearing? Do barred owls make this kind of barking, grunting noise? 


  David A
  Manchester

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Subject: RE: Owl Sounds
From: "Cendra Lynn" <cendra AT digitalrealm.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:45:20 -0500
Well, I dunno, David.  I just pulled up the Cornell site,
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Barred_Owl/id , and heard all that you
described except anything that even vaguely resembled "who cooks for you"!!
My dogs alerted to it, so the barking, grunting noise was definitely there.
One has to wonder what actually they are doing to cause them to make such
sounds!

 

Cendra Lynn, Newest Barred Owl Fan

OWS, A2

 

From: David Allen [mailto:whiteoakart AT att.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:22 AM
To: birders AT umich.edu
Subject: [birders] Owl Sounds

 

This morning at 5:30 am while walking my dogs, I heard our neighborhood
barred owl calling his familiar 'who cooks for you' call.  After about 10
minutes, his call was accompanied by a cacophony of noise from the same
direction.  There was a grunting noise, something that sounded like a cross
between a dog's bark and a crow's caw, and a series of short hoots.  Quickly
followed by a slightly lower pitch version of 'who cooks for you', that
sounded to me like a second owl.  This repeated several times with an
interval of 15 to 30 seconds in between.  It even caught my dogs' attention,
who normally ignore the natural sounds.  After about 5 minutes of this, the
original "who cooks for you' call returned all by itself.

I have never heard anything quite like this before.  Any ideas on what I was
hearing?  Do barred owls make this kind of barking, grunting noise?

David A
Manchester

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Subject: HSR: DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark (13 Nov 2009) 94 Raptors
From: reports AT hawkcount.org
Date: 13 Nov 2009 18:11:00 -0400
DRHW- Lake Erie Metropark
Brownstown, Michigan, USA
Daily Raptor Counts: Nov 13, 2009
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Species            Day's Count    Month Total   Season Total
------------------ ----------- -------------- --------------
Black Vulture                0              0              0
Turkey Vulture               9            712          54859
Osprey                       0              0             46
Bald Eagle                   0             11            108
Northern Harrier             1             15            161
Sharp-shinned Hawk           2             47           3251
Cooper's Hawk                2             44            324
Northern Goshawk             0              6             22
Red-shouldered Hawk         19            240            592
Broad-winged Hawk            0              0          20016
Red-tailed Hawk             53            872           2360
Rough-legged Hawk            0              8             13
Golden Eagle                 8             46            109
American Kestrel             0              1            439
Merlin                       0              0             39
Peregrine Falcon             0              2             34
Unknown Accipiter            0              0              0
Unknown Buteo                0              0             12
Unknown Falcon               0              0              0
Unknown Eagle                0              0              0
Unknown Raptor               0              1              1
Mississippi Kite             0              0              1
Swainson's Hawk              0              0              4

Total:                      94           2005          82391
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Observation start time: 09:30:00 
Observation end   time: 15:30:00 
Total observation time: 6 hours

Official Counter:        Seth Cutright

Observers:        John Elliott, Rodney Laura

Weather:
Wind was 0-6mph and from the East all day long.  Cloud cover went from 15%
up to 90% late in the day.  



 



 





Raptor Observations:
It was slow but steady for most of the day.  104 was the total for the day.
 53 of those were Red-tailed Hawks, and 8 were Golden Eagles. 

Non-raptor Observations:
Several thousand ducks went past today, almost all day long in flocks of
about ~ 20-100 at a time.  They were too far out to tell what kinds, but
really the first good day for waterbird movements. 

Predictions:
Should be warm again, but have light Southeast winds.  I would guess that
more Golden Eagles should go over.  Since it is warm birds might just get
up and move because of that.  With Southeast winds it might either push the
birds to the North or not have them fly that much.  It is also that time of
year when birds might just move because they need to also.  



As of now Sunday might be good.
========================================================================
Report submitted by Seth Cutright (seth.cutright AT gmail.com)
SMRR- Lake Erie Metropark information may be found at:
http://www.smrr.net/



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Subject: Vreeland/Gotfredson Roads
From: James Fox <93fox AT earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:10:25 -0500
I drove Vreeland and Gotfredson Roads today and found a few nice  
birds.  There was a flock of 150-200 Lapland Longspurs along with some  
Horned Larks south of Vreeland a little bit west of Gotfredson.  I  
also saw the pair of Trumpeter Swans at the Gotfredson Rd. marsh with  
a fully grown but still gray immature.  I did not see the Northern  
Shrike or Merlin Reported yesterday.

James Fox
Farmington Hills

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Subject: not found // Re: Relocated: WHITE-WINGED DOVE IN WASHTENAW COUNTY
From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99 AT comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:21:12 -0500
I looked at Schill Rd. today from 12:40 to 1:40 for the White-winged 
Dove.  I didn't see ANY doves.  I checked Dell Rd., too.

I spread a couple of coffee cans of cracked corn on both sides of the 
road at the LIMITED SIGHT DISTANCE sign and at some spots 50-100 yards 
north and south of the sign.

Schill Rd. runs south off Austin Rd. three miles west of Saline.

Bruce

Date sent:      	Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:36:47 -0500
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Subject:        	[birders] Relocated: WHITE-WINGED DOVE IN WASHTENAW COUNTY
Send reply to:  	ddarm AT umich.edu

> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from strix09 AT gmail.com -----
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:36:39 -0500
> From: Sarah Toner 
> Subject: Re: [birders] WHITE-WINGED DOVE IN WASHTENAW COUNTY, NOV. 10,
> 9:45 AM To: ddarm AT umich.edu
> 
> We found it again today at 1 pm. As we hopped out of the car, we ran into
> a flock of about 5 mourning doves. As they flushed, one clearly had a
> short, squared-off tail and a flash of white on the wings. We stayed for
> about 15 minutes and didn't find it again. It flew off somewhere down the
> row of trees separating the fields. As we drove off a large accipiter flew
> into the woods.
> 
> Sarah T.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM,  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Jeff Schultz reported to Mike Sefton (who has computer problems and
> > called me) that at 9:45 this morning he found a WHITE-WINGED DOVE with 2
> > Mourning Doves on Schill Road , south of Austin Road, but before the
> > "Limited Sight Distance" sign on Schill Road. The 3 birds flushed but he
> > believes may still be in the area.
> >
> > Here is a link I found to Schill Road:
> > Link to Schill Road, east of Manchester:
> >
> > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Schill+Road,
> > +Manchester,+Mi&sll=42.139605,-84.076824&sspn=0.039905,0.062227&gl=us&ie
> > =UTF8&hq=Schill+Road,&hnear=Manchester,+MI&ll=42.155768,-83.829374&spn=0
> > .039895,0.062227&z=14
> >
> > Good luck! And please post results of your search efforts.
> >
> > Dea
> >
> >
> > ****************************************************
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> > City of Ann Arbor
> > 1831 Traver Rd.
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Subject: Ring-necked duck
From: "Maxine Biwer" <biwer AT witchmail.zzn.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:06:34 -0500




Subject: Red-necked Grebe at Ford Lake
From: "Bruce Moorman" <zerb21 AT aol.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:47:07 -0500
I posted a photo on Grove St. of a winter plumage Red-necked Grebe I saw
at Ford Lake yesterday afternoon.

http://www.grovestreet.com/PicPage.do?id=1300169

Bruce Moorman
Ypsilanti Township, Michigan

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Subject: ADMIN - Arb management
From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99 AT comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:43:15 -0500
Please take the discussion of Nichols Arboretum management to 
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Subject: Owl Sounds
From: David Allen <whiteoakart AT att.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:22:26 -0800 (PST)
This morning at 5:30 am while walking my dogs, I heard our neighborhood barred 
owl calling his familiar 'who cooks for you' call. After about 10 minutes, his 
call was accompanied by a cacophony of noise from the same direction. There was 
a grunting noise, something that sounded like a cross between a dog's bark and 
a crow's caw, and a series of short hoots. Quickly followed by a slightly lower 
pitch version of 'who cooks for you', that sounded to me like a second owl. 
This repeated several times with an interval of 15 to 30 seconds in between. It 
even caught my dogs' attention, who normally ignore the natural sounds. After 
about 5 minutes of this, the original "who cooks for you' call returned all by 
itself. 


I have never heard anything quite like this before. Any ideas on what I was 
hearing? Do barred owls make this kind of barking, grunting noise? 


David A
Manchester


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Subject: Re: RB Nuthatch & Yard Birds
From: "Sally K Scheer" <winerat AT villagecorner.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:59:54 -0500
I love those guys and don't get them down below. I have few pines near the 
house down there.

Up here, with lots more pines around, I get them more often and have at 
least two this year.

In the UP, they get excited if they have a white breasted nuthatch, the red 
breasted being numerous.

Sigh, we always get excited by what we don't see often, I guess.
Sally Scheer
North of Rogers City
Presque Isle & Bearinger Townships
on the Shore of Lake Huron

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: [birders] Re: RB Nuthatch & Yard Birds


Got my first RB nuthatch ever at my feeder, and in Livonia !! (lots of pines 
in our neighborhood)

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Subject: Re: RB Nuthatch & Yard Birds
From: "Melody Bond" <mbond AT med.umich.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:35:51 -0500
Got my first RB nuthatch ever at my feeder, and in Livonia !! (lots of pines in 
our neighborhood) 


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Subject: RB Nuthatch & Yard Birds
From: Barb <nuthatch45 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:27:18 -0800 (PST)
First RB Nuthatch showed up at the feeder yesterday.
Two years ago I had dozens, last year none.
In the last few weeks I have had a YB Sapsucker & Northern Flicker on the suet.
I continue to have Tufted Titmice visit on a regular basis, not too bad for a 
little yard in the middle of town. 

 
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South Lyon




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Subject: RE: The Arb Today 11/12
From: John Lowry <john AT kingbird.org>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:20:26 -0500
Birders,


They have a very informative web site where you can learn more and, I'm sure, 
voice your preferences as to their stewardship. 


http://www.lsa.umich.edu/mbg/about/

If you visit the page, the first thing you'll see is: Natural Areas 
Stewardship: The active care and maintenance of natural areas which seeks to 
control exotic invasive species, encourage characteristic native species, and 
reestablish natural processes upon which native ecosystems depend. 


Although we birders may have specific ideas about what we'd like to see in 
various areas of the Arb, the recent efforts to reduce the invasive shrub 
species and restore native plants in many areas have resulted in changes that 
are drastic. It remains to be seen which species of birds benefit during the 
different times of year. The first reaction of may experienced birders is that 
birds are using the dense buckthorn as a food and shelter resource during 
migration. I'm not sure what the science says about that (but Julie Craves is 
working on this very topic over at Dearborn). In any case, buckthorn is an 
invasive exotic species that is actively being managed. 


Roger's note makes it sound like they are installing turf grass. Knowing Bob 
Grese, I'm guessing that is not the case! More likely it's an effort to steer 
the prairie and adjoining areas more toward pre-settlement vegetation, which is 
known to support dramatically higher species diversity. 


This gets some attention every once in a while, and before anyone comes to 
unfounded conclusions they would be well served to get up to speed on what goes 
on at the Arb and why. 


John Lowry



On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:42 AM, David Allen wrote:

> The removal of natural foliage is neither a liberal nor conservative 
activity. It is the activity of individuals who think they are doing the right 
thing, no matter how ill-informed. 

> 
> There is no need to make this into a political debate.
> 
> The progress of conservation will never be served by turning it into a 
partisan battle. 

> 
> David A
> Manchester
> 
> From: Cendra Lynn 
> To: birders AT umich.edu
> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 11:53:14 PM
> Subject: [birders] RE: The Arb Today 11/12
> 
> Who is in charge of the oversight of the Dow Prairie?
>  
> Cendra Lynn, Concerned Birder
> OWS, A2
>  
> From: Roger Kuhlman [mailto:rkuhlman AT hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:05 PM
> To: birders AT umich.edu
> Subject: [birders] The Arb Today 11/12
>  
> Migration activity in Nichol's Arboretum in Ann Arbor is not what it was two 
weeks ago still I did manage to find three Fox Sparrows, one Pine Siskin, two 
Winter Wrens and a Yellow-bellied Sapsucker Thursday morning. It will be 
interesting to see if we have a replay of last winter's spectacular Pine Siskin 
showing when on certain days there may have been up to 100 Pine Siskins in the 
vicinity. 

>  
> Some bad news to report: Arb management continues to take out large amounts 
brushy vegetation on the northward edges of Dow Prairie and the railroad tracks 
to advance their artificial landscaping projects. That's a damn shame since 
many migrating passerines particularly sparrows, thrushes, and many warblers 
find this type of habitat very productive for feeding and shelter in both the 
Fall and the Spring. Open and airy regions devoid of most vegetation are not 
really useful to them even if they do satisfy certain people's aesthetic 
preferences. 

>  
> Roger Kuhlman
> Ann Arbor, Michigan
> 11/12/2009
>  
> Shouldn't the major conservation organizations be controlled and run by 
environmentalists and ecologists instead of liberal, democratic political 
activists? The political activist focuses primarily on the gaining, using, and 
keeping of political power. When environmental concerns become inconvenient, as 
they always do, they are quickly dropped. 

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