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3 Feb Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.) ["Terry Dillon" ]
3 Feb Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.) ["Terry Dillon" ]
2 Feb Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.) [Stephen Ingraham ]
3 Feb Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.) [Neil ]
3 Feb Re: Question Re: Nikon P7100, Digiscoping quality [Neil ]
2 Feb Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.) [eric kallen ]
2 Feb Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.) [Richard ]
1 Feb Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.) [David & Mary Driscoll ]
02 Feb Question Re: Nikon P7100, Digiscoping quality ["offshorebirder" ]
2 Feb Neil's dilemna []
1 Feb Re: Nikon Coolpix P510 []
2 Feb Re: Nikon Coolpix P510 [Neil ]
1 Feb Nikon Coolpix P510 []
31 Jan Re: Tested Digiscope Mode Lens/Camera Definition [Francis Smith ]
01 Feb Tested Digiscope Mode Lens/Camera Definition ["Gene" ]
29 Jan Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS ["Frank" ]
29 Jan Re: Panasonic G 2 ["Frank" ]
29 Jan sun out w/35mm [Tom Berriman ]
29 Jan Panasonic G 2 ["vanellus35" ]
28 Jan RE: kowa / canon advice ["Tara Tanaka" ]
28 Jan Re: kowa / canon advice [kevin crisp ]
27 Jan Re: CES / PMA show cameras for digiscoping [Clay Taylor ]
28 Jan Re: kowa / canon advice [Neil ]
27 Jan Re: kowa / canon advice [Clay Taylor ]
28 Jan Re: kowa / canon advice [Neil ]
27 Jan kowa / canon advice [kevin crisp ]
27 Jan Re: CES / PMA show cameras for digiscoping [Mike Grant ]
27 Jan RE: hello [Clay Taylor ]
26 Jan Re: teleconverter for 400/5.6; gimbal heads [eric kallen ]
26 Jan Re: shutter speeds of 1/100 &1/200 [Tom Berriman ]
27 Jan Re: shutter speeds of 1/100 &1/200 [Neil ]
27 Jan Re: Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS [Neil ]
26 Jan teleconverter for 400/5.6; gimbal heads []
26 Jan Re: shutter speeds of 1/100 &1/200 [Clay Taylor ]
26 Jan shutter speeds of 1/100 &1/200 [Tom Berriman ]
26 Jan Re: Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS [Clay Taylor ]
25 Jan Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS ["Frank" ]
26 Jan Re: hello [Carl Clifford ]
26 Jan Re: hello [Rick Phillips ]
25 Jan RE: hello ["Tara Tanaka" ]
25 Jan Re: hello [Joel Haas ]
25 Jan Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS [Clay Taylor ]
26 Jan Re: Pentax EW thread size [Carl Clifford ]
25 Jan Re: hello [João Martins( Biologia) ]
25 Jan Re: hello [Francis Smith ]
25 Jan Re: hello [Francis Smith ]
25 Jan Re: hello Joao and do your math [João Martins( Biologia) ]
25 Jan RE: Pentax EW thread size [Kai Soon Chan ]
24 Jan Re: hello Joao and do your math ["Luis" ]
25 Jan Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS ["vanellus35" ]
25 Jan Pentax EW thread size [Carl Clifford ]
24 Jan Re: hello [João Martins( Biologia) ]
23 Jan RE: hello [Clay Taylor ]
24 Jan Re: hello [Neil Fifer ]
23 Jan Re: hello [Francis Smith ]
23 Jan SDHC file write times and SX40HS frame rates []
23 Jan hello [João Martins( Biologia) ]
23 Jan RE: Panasonic G2 [Clay Taylor ]
23 Jan Re: Tripod recommendations ["dick_myatt" ]
23 Jan Re: Camera Mounting Device ["digiscopeman" ]
23 Jan Re: Nikon FT-1 adapter ["digiscopeman" ]
23 Jan RE: Panasonic G2 ["Tara Tanaka" ]
23 Jan Panasonic G2 ["vanellus35" ]
22 Jan RE: Canon SX40HS - choice of SD/SDHC cards ["Tara Tanaka" ]
22 Jan Re: How balance Swarovski ATM80, DCA, and D-SLR? [Clay Taylor ]
23 Jan Re: Canon SX40HS - choice of SD/SDHC cards ["Terry Dillon" ]
23 Jan How balance Swarovski ATM80, DCA, and D-SLR? ["Chris Hugosson" ]
21 Jan Re: Measuring Distance ["Olavi Kemppainen" ]
20 Jan Re: Swarovski and Canon 7D HELP ["blayneolsen" ]
20 Jan Re: More images from Kowa TSN-884 anc Canon 7D []
19 Jan Re: Swarovski and Canon 7D HELP [Clay Taylor ]
19 Jan Swarovski and Canon 7D HELP ["blayneolsen" ]
19 Jan Re: Measuring Distance ["gtk_trout23" ]
18 Jan Re: More images from Kowa TSN-884 anc Canon 7D ["davehickson123" ]
18 Jan Re: Tripod recommendations ["penali18" ]
18 Jan Re: More images from Kowa TSN-884 anc Canon 7D [Lisa Romaniuk ]

Subject: Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.)
From: "Terry Dillon" <tsdillon AT bigpond.net.au>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:10:25 +1000

Correction to my previous email...........with the exception of the Dove all images were taken with x1.5 Digital Zoom (1260mm). Sorry about that. Full Exif data available on Picasaweb. TD ----- Original Message ----- From: David & Mary Driscoll To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:58 AM Subject: [digiscopingbirds] Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.) Hi Alan & Others, Are you able to use a pin point focus with your Canon SX40HS. In other words, are you able to focus on a bird's head, for instance? I have a Nikon D70, and a 70-300mm zoom, it is difficult to get crisp shot of a bird's head. I have it set for center focus, but it doesn't stay. I've been thinking about a different camera, and trying to decide between a DSLR or super zoom. My zoom lens doesn't have VR. Thanks for any suggestions, Mary MFLD Sent from my iPhone On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:28 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a long end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a full frame 35 mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this being their Coolpix P510. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310 On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon SX40HS, on the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the Nikon product is that it won't take an external flash, one advantage is that it can do GPS tags. Interesting, but I think I'll be fine with my SX40HS. Alan Birnbaum Fresno CA No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4780 - Release Date: 02/01/12 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 416 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Subject: Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.)
From: "Terry Dillon" <tsdillon AT bigpond.net.au>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:58:21 +1000

Hi Just had my SX40 for a week...............have attached a few current pics on Picasaweb Dotterel - tsdillon - Picasa Web Albums Incidentally the Great Egret pic was taken at x1.5 Dgital zoom. Optical zoom is 840mm - add x1.5 Dgital zoom and the effective Foc Length is 1260mm. All other images taken at 840mm Hope this helps. Terry Dillon ----- Original Message ----- From: David & Mary Driscoll To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:58 AM Subject: [digiscopingbirds] Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.) Hi Alan & Others, Are you able to use a pin point focus with your Canon SX40HS. In other words, are you able to focus on a bird's head, for instance? I have a Nikon D70, and a 70-300mm zoom, it is difficult to get crisp shot of a bird's head. I have it set for center focus, but it doesn't stay. I've been thinking about a different camera, and trying to decide between a DSLR or super zoom. My zoom lens doesn't have VR. Thanks for any suggestions, Mary MFLD Sent from my iPhone On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:28 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a long end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a full frame 35 mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this being their Coolpix P510. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310 On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon SX40HS, on the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the Nikon product is that it won't take an external flash, one advantage is that it can do GPS tags. Interesting, but I think I'll be fine with my SX40HS. Alan Birnbaum Fresno CA No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4780 - Release Date: 02/01/12 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 416 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Subject: Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.)
From: Stephen Ingraham <lightshedder AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 18:17:21 -0500

The SX40 does well on focus and depth of field is much greater than with a larger sensor camera. You can center on the head, lock focus, and then reframe. I find that leaving the camera on continuous focus helps. I let it find focus by itself first. Then I half press and check focus before taking the shot (or shots). On Feb 2, 2012 5:08 PM, "David & Mary Driscoll" wrote: > > > Hi Alan & Others, > > Are you able to use a pin point focus with your Canon SX40HS. > In other words, are you able to focus on a bird's head, for instance? > I have a Nikon D70, and a 70-300mm zoom, it is difficult to get crisp shot > of a bird's head. I have it set for center focus, but it doesn't stay. > I've been > thinking about a different camera, and trying to decide between a > DSLR or super zoom. My zoom lens doesn't have VR. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > > Mary > > > MFLD > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:28 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: > > > > Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a long > end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a full frame 35 > mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this being their Coolpix > P510. > > http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310 > > On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon SX40HS, on > the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the Nikon product is > that it won't take an external flash, one advantage is that it can do GPS > tags. Interesting, but I think I'll be fine with my SX40HS. > > Alan Birnbaum > Fresno CA > > > >
Subject: Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.)
From: Neil <neilfif11 AT yahoo.com.au>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 07:06:17 +0800

Mary, The IS ( Image Stabilising) of the Canon is excellent and keep the image steady in the viewfinder , even good enough for taking hand held videos. It is not as fast as a DSLR to grab focus on fast moving subjects, so warblers are a bit of a challenge. I haven't had too much problem at grabbing images from branches though if the bird is reasonable still. I was happy with this http://www.flickr.com/photos/7892550 AT N03/6316320451/in/set-72157627773655789/ , although I did get a few misses too, but I would have with my Nikon 300/4 AFS + 1.4x tele too. In saying that you would get better results with the Nikon D7000 or one of the newer Nikon DSLRs. You would also get better results upgrading to the Nikon 300/4 AFS lens. Lot's of tough choices out there . Neil On 2 Feb 2012, at 12:58 AM, David & Mary Driscoll wrote: > > > Hi Alan & Others, > > Are you able to use a pin point focus with your Canon SX40HS. > In other words, are you able to focus on a bird's head, for instance? > I have a Nikon D70, and a 70-300mm zoom, it is difficult to get crisp shot of a bird's head. I have it set for center focus, but it doesn't stay. I've been > thinking about a different camera, and trying to decide between a > DSLR or super zoom. My zoom lens doesn't have VR. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > > Mary > > > MFLD > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:28 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: > >> >> Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a long end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a full frame 35 mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this being their Coolpix P510. >> >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310 >> >> On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon SX40HS, on the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the Nikon product is that it won't take an external flash, one advantage is that it can do GPS tags. Interesting, but I think I'll be fine with my SX40HS. >> >> Alan Birnbaum >> Fresno CA >> > > >
Subject: Re: Question Re: Nikon P7100, Digiscoping quality
From: Neil <neilfif11 AT yahoo.com.au>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 06:56:40 +0800

Nathan, I have been digiscoping with the P7000 which has the same lens as the P7100. Due to it's long zoom range it needs a lot of Eye Relief from the eyepiece so it wont work with the zoom eyepieces. It likes the Kowa 25x LER eyepiece which has 32 mm of Eye Relief and this eyepiece will fit a Swarovski scope but you lose long range focusing. Good to about 40 meters. It's an excellent camera in it's own right and the updated P7100 should have ironed out the "quirks" with the P7000. I have some images here from the P7000 http://www.flickr.com/photos/7892550 AT N03/sets/72157625019959005/ , both digiscoped and not. Neil On 3 Feb 2012, at 4:56 AM, offshorebirder wrote: > Will a Nikon P7100 work for digiscoping with a Swarovski 20x-60x eyepiece? > > Or will vignetting be too bad? > > It's hard to judge from the Nikon website whether the P7100 lens has a larger diameter than the good old P6000... > > Nathan Dias - Charleston, SC > > PS With respect to the question of Digiscoping quality versus other methods, see the following (all done w/ manual focus): > > Canon A630: > http://www.crbo.net/CommonEider-sit1.html > http://www.crbo.net/CommonEider-sit3.html > http://www.crbo.net/media/Lecontes3_600.jpg > http://www.crbo.net/media/Lecontes4_600.jpg > > Nikon P6000 early on a cloudy morning: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/offshorebirder/6556939319/in/photostream > > > Nathan Dias - Charleston, SC USA > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Subject: Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.)
From: eric kallen <rightnow AT cox.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 14:40:57 -0800

Hate to tell yo this, but the Nikkor 70-300 is not a good birding lens. I used one with my first D70 and was entirely disgusted with the photos, even with a tripod. The VR version is decent, but the best bang for your buck is the 300mm f4 AFS Nikkor. Eric Kallen San Diego http://egk.smugmug.com/Photography/RECENT-PHOTOS On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:58 AM, David & Mary Driscoll wrote: > > Hi Alan & Others, > > Are you able to use a pin point focus with your Canon SX40HS. > In other words, are you able to focus on a bird's head, for instance? > I have a Nikon D70, and a 70-300mm zoom, it is difficult to get > crisp shot of a bird's head. I have it set for center focus, but it > doesn't stay. I've been > thinking about a different camera, and trying to decide between a > DSLR or super zoom. My zoom lens doesn't have VR. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > > Mary > > > MFLD > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:28 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: > >> >> >> Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a >> long end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a >> full frame 35 mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this >> being their Coolpix P510. >> >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310 >> >> On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon >> SX40HS, on the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the >> Nikon product is that it won't take an external flash, one >> advantage is that it can do GPS tags. Interesting, but I think I'll >> be fine with my SX40HS. >> >> Alan Birnbaum >> Fresno CA >> > >
Subject: Re: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.)
From: Richard <sternrichard AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 18:36:05 -0400

Hi, Have you used the button on the back to lock the focus point? Richard Stern Sent from my iPad On 2012-02-01, at 12:58 PM, David & Mary Driscoll wrote: > Hi Alan & Others, > > Are you able to use a pin point focus with your Canon SX40HS. > In other words, are you able to focus on a bird's head, for instance? > I have a Nikon D70, and a 70-300mm zoom, it is difficult to get crisp shot of a bird's head. I have it set for center focus, but it doesn't stay. I've been > thinking about a different camera, and trying to decide between a > DSLR or super zoom. My zoom lens doesn't have VR. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > > Mary > > > MFLD > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:28 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: > >> >> >> Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a long end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a full frame 35 mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this being their Coolpix P510. >> >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310 >> >> On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon SX40HS, on the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the Nikon product is that it won't take an external flash, one advantage is that it can do GPS tags. Interesting, but I think I'll be fine with my SX40HS. >> >> Alan Birnbaum >> Fresno CA > >
Subject: Question re. Canon SX40HS (Alan B.)
From: David & Mary Driscoll <wddriscoll AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:58:42 -0700

Hi Alan & Others, Are you able to use a pin point focus with your Canon SX40HS. In other words, are you able to focus on a bird's head, for instance? I have a Nikon D70, and a 70-300mm zoom, it is difficult to get crisp shot of a bird's head. I have it set for center focus, but it doesn't stay. I've been thinking about a different camera, and trying to decide between a DSLR or super zoom. My zoom lens doesn't have VR. Thanks for any suggestions, Mary MFLD Sent from my iPhone On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:28 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: > Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a long end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a full frame 35 mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this being their Coolpix P510. > > http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310 > > On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon SX40HS, on the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the Nikon product is that it won't take an external flash, one advantage is that it can do GPS tags. Interesting, but I think I'll be fine with my SX40HS. > > Alan Birnbaum > Fresno CA >
Subject: Question Re: Nikon P7100, Digiscoping quality
From: "offshorebirder" <offshorebirder AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:56:08 -0000

Will a Nikon P7100 work for digiscoping with a Swarovski 20x-60x eyepiece? Or will vignetting be too bad? It's hard to judge from the Nikon website whether the P7100 lens has a larger diameter than the good old P6000... Nathan Dias - Charleston, SC PS With respect to the question of Digiscoping quality versus other methods, see the following (all done w/ manual focus): Canon A630: http://www.crbo.net/CommonEider-sit1.html http://www.crbo.net/CommonEider-sit3.html http://www.crbo.net/media/Lecontes3_600.jpg http://www.crbo.net/media/Lecontes4_600.jpg Nikon P6000 early on a cloudy morning: http://www.flickr.com/photos/offshorebirder/6556939319/in/photostream Nathan Dias - Charleston, SC USA ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Neil's dilemna
From: SiriusGuy AT aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:52:39 -0500 (EST)

Fifing from Hong Kong, Neil advises that: <> Aah, Neil's dilemna. "1000" is of course only 12% more than "840." I DO on the SX40HS like that little button that allows one to momentarily zoom OUT to find the subject, then return to the maximum position. While I haven't yet used it, the hot shoe on the SX40HS be very useful for any inside flash shots, and also, some closer range flash fill; I have a little Sunpak unit that works nicely on a Canon G10, should work on the SX40HS as well. The Nikon does NOT take an external flash. Regardless, nice to hear that Neil gives such great gifts! Anyway, Happy Chinese New Year to any and all lucky Dragons. Alan Birnbaum Fresno CA
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix P510
From: orink AT t6b.com
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:00:32 -0600 (GMT-06:00)

My perusal of the specs for these cameras shows a "NO" for manual focus. I find that picking a bird from branches is very tricky for auto-focus only cameras. As Ever, Orin __________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil" To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:43:46 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] Nikon Coolpix P510 Alan, I'm impressed by the range out to 1000 mm, although the Canon teleconverter option does a good job too. I found the video mode was very good at these long ranges. I have a birthday next week and I'm torn at what to get. Neil On 1 Feb 2012, at 2:28 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: > > > Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a long end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a full frame 35 mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this being their Coolpix P510. > > http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310 > > On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon SX40HS, on the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the Nikon product is that it won't take an external flash, one advantage is that it can do GPS tags. Interesting, but I think I'll be fine with my SX40HS. > > Alan Birnbaum > Fresno CA > > > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix P510
From: Neil <neilfif11 AT yahoo.com.au>
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 07:43:46 +0800

Alan, I'm impressed by the range out to 1000 mm, although the Canon teleconverter option does a good job too. I found the video mode was very good at these long ranges. I have a birthday next week and I'm torn at what to get. Neil On 1 Feb 2012, at 2:28 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: > > > Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a long end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a full frame 35 mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this being their Coolpix P510. > > http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310 > > On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon SX40HS, on the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the Nikon product is that it won't take an external flash, one advantage is that it can do GPS tags. Interesting, but I think I'll be fine with my SX40HS. > > Alan Birnbaum > Fresno CA > > >
Subject: Nikon Coolpix P510
From: SiriusGuy AT aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 01:28:47 -0500 (EST)

Nikon has introduced a small sensor "superzoom" 42X compact with a long end that gives angular cover the same as a 1000 mm lens on a full frame 35 mm (nearly defunct format) or DX digital camera, this being their Coolpix P510. _http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310_ (http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/01/Nikon_Coolpix_P510_P310) On the short end, the lens is marginally slower than the Canon SX40HS, on the long end minimally faster. One disadvantage to the Nikon product is that it won't take an external flash, one advantage is that it can do GPS tags. Interesting, but I think I'll be fine with my SX40HS. Alan Birnbaum Fresno CA
Subject: Re: Tested Digiscope Mode Lens/Camera Definition
From: Francis Smith <smithhill1 AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:04:50 -0500

Woops, two tests left out. The Pentax f/2.8 24mm tested very well with the Oly EPL-1, 75 and 77 arc seconds. Gene On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Gene wrote: > ** > > > > The lenses and/or cameras were tested under digiscoping aperture > conditions but with a Ronchi resolution chart instead of a virtual scope > image, which is always subject to atmospheric disturbances. Real > comparative numerical arc second resolution numbers were obtained. > > For testing each camera was positioned so that a marked four foot wide > area filled the frame width. An 8 1/2 by 11 print of a Ronchi chart was > located in the center of the area. The camera aperture was set to the > common calculated digiscoping pupil size that would be present in a typical > scope and eyepiece. The minimum resolved line pairs from the photographed > chart were used plus the adjusted distance from the camera lens to the > chart to calculate arc seconds of resolution. Following is a comparison > chart of 16 tests. Note that the smaller the number the better the lens and > higher the camera resolution. Of course an arc second is 1/3600 of a > degree. > > P&S Lumix FH-1 -- 68 and 69 arc sec. > > P&S Lumix FH-2 -- 70 arc sec. > > EPL-1/FD f/2.8 35mm-- 72 arc sec. > > EPL-1/FD f/2.8 28mm-- 75 and 77 arc sec. > > EPL-1/FD f/2.8 24mm 75 and 77 arc sec. > > G1/FD f/2.8 24mm-- 82 arc sec. > > EPL-1/Tokinaf/2.8 24mm-91 and 91 arc sec. > > EPL-1/Pany f/1.7 20mm--102 and 105 arc sec. > > P&S Lumix LX-3 -- 107 and 107 arc sec. > > G1 /Pany f/1.7 20mm-- 110 arc sec. > > Two things stand out in the test results: > > #1 The little 120/130 gram Lumix Point and Shoot tests > sharper than the 4/3 cameras and lenses. > > #2 The 1970's era Canon FD lenses test sharper than later > lenses, with the Pany f/1.7 20mm being the least sharp > of all tested. > Gene Smith > > Whoops >
Subject: Tested Digiscope Mode Lens/Camera Definition
From: "Gene" <smithhill1 AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:54:05 -0000

The lenses and/or cameras were tested under digiscoping aperture conditions but with a Ronchi resolution chart instead of a virtual scope image, which is always subject to atmospheric disturbances. Real comparative numerical arc second resolution numbers were obtained. For testing each camera was positioned so that a marked four foot wide area filled the frame width. An 8 1/2 by 11 print of a Ronchi chart was located in the center of the area. The camera aperture was set to the common calculated digiscoping pupil size that would be present in a typical scope and eyepiece. The minimum resolved line pairs from the photographed chart were used plus the adjusted distance from the camera lens to the chart to calculate arc seconds of resolution. Following is a comparison chart of 16 tests. Note that the smaller the number the better the lens and higher the camera resolution. Of course an arc second is 1/3600 of a degree. P&S Lumix FH-1 -- 68 and 69 arc sec. P&S Lumix FH-2 -- 70 arc sec. EPL-1/FD f/2.8 35mm-- 72 arc sec. EPL-1/FD f/2.8 28mm-- 75 and 77 arc sec. EPL-1/FD f/2.8 24mm 75 and 77 arc sec. G1/FD f/2.8 24mm-- 82 arc sec. EPL-1/Tokinaf/2.8 24mm-91 and 91 arc sec. EPL-1/Pany f/1.7 20mm--102 and 105 arc sec. P&S Lumix LX-3 -- 107 and 107 arc sec. G1 /Pany f/1.7 20mm-- 110 arc sec. Two things stand out in the test results: #1 The little 120/130 gram Lumix Point and Shoot tests sharper than the 4/3 cameras and lenses. #2 The 1970's era Canon FD lenses test sharper than later lenses, with the Pany f/1.7 20mm being the least sharp of all tested. Gene Smith ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS
From: "Frank" <frank.vassen AT skynet.be>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:15:42 -0000

Hi Neil Thank you very much for commenting and advising on my questions. No doubt these third party lenses are of great quality, but I would really like using (pysically) short zoom lenses for digiscoping; I would also have a hard time renouncing to my DCB setting, which is serving me so well for many years now, still with my Coolpixes P6000 & P5100, but also with the GF1/Lumix 20mm Pancake setting. But compared to the 2 Nikon compacts, I miss the zoom capacity in the 20mm Pancake lense. From the technical specification of the Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm, I noticed that it has 2 ED glass lenses, so I though it could have the advantage of being a short-sized zoom lens fitting on the DCB (which Helmut now confirmed is the case) while at the same time giving better performance for longer-distance shots. On the "ED glass and distance" issue, I have seen over the years many comments on this forum on lenses that perform well up to a certain distance, but not at longer distance. I remember the Lumix 20mm Pancake being mentioned as a poor performer for long distances, and I confirm from my experience that this is correct (but it is grear for short distances). However, my impression is that, for longer-distance digiscoping, the power of the ED glass lenses is not so much linked to any higher performance under bad atmospheric conditions, but rather to its higher performance at long-distance shooting in good atmospheric conditions. Please correct me if I am wrong on this. Admittedly, my knowledge on optics is rather superficial ;) Frank --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, Neil wrote: > > Frank, > We all like to photograph at long distances which is why we keep "pushing the envelope" with digiscoping. One of the limitation of kit lenses is that generally they are not good enough to handle the issues at distance eg haze,humidity,pollution , especially over water. One of the good things about Nikon is that they have put some good glass in some of their digicams ( usually marked as ED ). Canon also in their G series and close behind their S Series. With Micro Four Thirds most people have found better results with third party lenses eg old Nikon,Canon,Pentax lenses. I have one of the new Zeiss 28/2.0 which is an excellent lens. I found a 35-70/mm Nikon which is an excellent zoom , although loses a bit of light due to length. If you need more magnification you are usually better off zooming the eyepiece or stepping up to a higher power eyepiece than zooming the camera lens. > Unfortunately the DCB is not designed to handle a DSLR plus zoom lens. You might be able to find a 40 mm Pancake lens ( eg Pentax) than might fit. > Neil > > On 26 Jan 2012, at 2:46 AM, Frank wrote: > > > Helmut > > > > I would be very interested to learn if the GX Vario 14-42mm works with the DCB as I am planning to use the same combination, so it would be great if you could let us know about the result of your testing > > So far I have been using the 20mm pancake on a fixed 30 mm ocular, with great results, but frustation about the the inability to zoom. > > > > I am also curious about the optical qualities of that zoom lens - it seems to be getting rather mixed reviews so far. It has 2 ED glass elements - could this be helpful for longer distance shots? > > > > greetings > > Frank > > > > --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, "vanellus35" wrote: > >> > >> Thanks to Tara and Clay for their message.I have the opportunity to test the lens on Saturday with our dealer in Hamburg. If the DCB adapter does not work, I have probably to buy the DCA. But I will test it because I had no problems with the DCB and my old Nikon P 5100. > >> > >> Helmut > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT ...! Groups Links > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: Panasonic G 2
From: "Frank" <frank.vassen AT skynet.be>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:38:33 -0000

Hi Helmut, Thank you very much for sharing this encouraging news. I suspected that your setting should fit on the DCB but was waiting for confirmation. Any information from your further testing will be much appreciated. When you say that vignetting disappears at 24mm, I presume this is based on testing with your 25-50mm zoom eyepiece set at 25mm? I am planning to use this lens with a 30mm fixed eyepiece, presuming that vignetting would disappear a bit earlier with that setting. all the best Frank --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, "vanellus35" wrote: > > > Hi Clay and Frank, > > Good messages: the Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm/F3.5-5.6 ASPH. /Power OIS works fine with the Swarovski DCB adapter. Lens is 26,8mm and when full zoomed 48 mm. Thus it fits almost exactly on the largest width of the mounting stage. Vignetting is approximately only under 24mm. As far as I could see, the quality corresponds with the 20 mm Pancake of Panasonic. I hope we will get better light the next week so I can test it a little more. > I am not sure whether the weight of the camera is not too heavy for the filter thread at the DCA adapter. > > > Helmut > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: sun out w/35mm
From: Tom Berriman <tom.berriman AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:59:28 -0800 (PST)

For those of us still starting out, the photo attached can show how much difference a little sun can make while digiscoping. From the other day with mostly gray cloud cover ( and my attachment then) to today when the sun peeked out. I was able to lower the ISO some to 320 and increase shutter speed a tad to 1/250. More important to me is I didn't have to mess too much with post processing just some sharpening and crop. Also I switched from the 40mm to Nikon's 35mm. Photo reduced file for email. (30'-35' distance) Tom Berriman
Subject: Panasonic G 2
From: "vanellus35" <helmut.schumann AT fulmar.de>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:17:20 -0000

Hi Clay and Frank, Good messages: the Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm/F3.5-5.6 ASPH. /Power OIS works fine with the Swarovski DCB adapter. Lens is 26,8mm and when full zoomed 48 mm. Thus it fits almost exactly on the largest width of the mounting stage. Vignetting is approximately only under 24mm. As far as I could see, the quality corresponds with the 20 mm Pancake of Panasonic. I hope we will get better light the next week so I can test it a little more. I am not sure whether the weight of the camera is not too heavy for the filter thread at the DCA adapter. Helmut ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: RE: kowa / canon advice
From: "Tara Tanaka" <h2otara AT comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:30:35 -0500

Hi Kevin, There is a little bit of adjustment possible with the DA-10, however I donâ€™t think itâ€™s quite 8mm. If you fully seat the lens side of the DA-10 on the eyepiece side and lightly tighten the set screw, you can then pull the camera back towards you perhaps 1/2'â€ and you will feel it catch. You can then fully tighten it at that setting. Just be careful to keep your adjustment w/in that â€œsafeâ€ range, and test it before you let go of your camera! I used to do this when I had the P6000 on the 25xLER. Tara http://www.flickr.com/photos/focused-on-birds http://www.youtube.com/h2otara From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kevin crisp Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:30 AM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] kowa / canon advice Hi Clay,Thanks, I have positioned the camera further back by 8mm with a piece of plastic which helps though aligning the camera is more difficult.Is their some sort of spacing ring you can buy either to attach to the eyepiece or to the TSN_DA10 attachement . Kevin _____ From: Clay Taylor To: "digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2012, 0:21 Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] kowa / canon advice There is no such thing as TOO much eye relief, but it might make you position the camera farther back from the eyepiece than you normally would expect to. Clay Taylor Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Sent from my iPad On Jan 27, 2012, at 6:56 PM, "Neil" wrote: Kevin, I suspect that the 25x LER eyepiece has too much Eye Relief ( 32 mm of ER ) for the A95. It's lens is 38 - 114 mm which should be ok with most normal eyepieces of 18 - 20 mm of ER. It has FOV of 52 degrees which is not particularly wide. The A640/620 or the newer S series cameras would probably be better. Quality wise the zoom eyepiece should give good results and you have the option of using it at 50/60 x which is a great digiscoping range. Neil On 28 Jan 2012, at 7:01 AM, kevin crisp wrote: Hi all, I would like to use my kowa 77mm scope and my 25x scope eye piece with my canon A95. Can anybody help with threads etc. i have theKowa TSN_DA10 attachement and have been using my 20x60 zoom. The 25 x eyepiece seems to have a better field of veiw though i am finding it diffcult to get a clear image. regards Kevin
Subject: Re: kowa / canon advice
From: kevin crisp <kcrisp63 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:30:16 +0000 (GMT)

Hi Clay,Thanks, I have positioned the camera further back by 8mm with a piece of plastic which helps though aligning the camera is more difficult.Is their some sort of spacing ring you can buy either to attach to the eyepiece or to theÂ TSN_DA10 attachementÂ . KevinÂ ________________________________ From: Clay Taylor To: "digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2012, 0:21 Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] kowa / canon advice Â There is no such thing as TOO much eye relief, but it might make you position the camera farther back from the eyepiece than you normally would expect to. Clay Taylor Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Sent from my iPad On Jan 27, 2012, at 6:56 PM, "Neil" wrote: Â >Kevin, >Â Â Â Â Â Â I suspect that the 25x LER eyepiece has too much Eye Relief ( 32 mm of ER ) for the A95. Â It's lens is 38 - 114 mm which should be ok with most normal eyepieces of 18 - 20 mm of ER. Â It has FOV of 52 degrees which is not particularly wide. Â The A640/620 or the newer S series cameras would probably be better. Quality wise the zoom eyepiece should give good results and you have the option of using it at 50/60 x which is a great digiscoping range. >Neil > > >On 28 Jan 2012, at 7:01 AM, kevin crisp wrote: > > >> >> >>Â Hi all, I would like to use my kowa 77mm scope and my 25x scope eye piece with my canon A95. Can anybody help with threads etc. i have theKowa TSN_DA10 attachement and have been using my 20x60 zoom. The 25 x eyepiece seems to have a better field of veiw though i am finding it diffcult to get a clear image. regards KevinÂ >> >> >
Subject: Re: CES / PMA show cameras for digiscoping
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:52:49 -0500

Do you have an immediate need to buy a camera, or can you wait a few weeks? I am sure that there are photo geek chat rooms that have all kinds of rumors / speculation / hyperbole, but you can search for them - I have no interest in those places. Until Panasonic (and Oly, Pentax, Canon, etc.) actually makes the announcement(s), we will have to be patient. Clay Taylor Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Sent from my iPad On Jan 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, "Mike Grant" > wrote: So, does anybody have any idea WHAT Panasonic is going to release in the M4/3s line? B&H had marked the GH2 with the longer lens as discontinued, but now show as temporarily unavailable. I am wondering if there will be a GH3 or if that line is being retired. Thank you, Mike Grant Chesterfield, MO ________________________________ From: Clay Taylor > To: "digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com" > Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 4:12:44 PM Subject: [digiscopingbirds] CES / PMA show cameras for digiscoping Hi all â€“ While I was at the Panasonic booth, a fellow behind the counter said that there would be new cameras coming from Panasonic in a month or so, so it appears that the proliferation of big-screen TVs, tablet computers, video games, etc., was not the environment in which the camera guys wanted to try and compete for publicity. Clay Taylor TOS Life Member Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us
Subject: Re: kowa / canon advice
From: Neil <neilfif11 AT yahoo.com.au>
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:45:28 +0800

Kevin, As Clay suggests it may be a distance issue. Setup up your tripod next to a table and slide the camera lens up to the 25x eyepiece and and take several shots with the lens at wide,mid and full zoom to minimise vignetting. Let us know your results. Also can you post a photo you've got already. Neil On 28 Jan 2012, at 8:21 AM, Clay Taylor wrote: > > > There is no such thing as TOO much eye relief, but it might make you position the camera farther back from the eyepiece than you normally would expect to. > > Clay Taylor > Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX > Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 27, 2012, at 6:56 PM, "Neil" wrote: > >> Kevin, >> >> I suspect that the 25x LER eyepiece has too much Eye Relief ( 32 mm of ER ) for the A95. It's lens is 38 - 114 mm which should be ok with most normal eyepieces of 18 - 20 mm of ER. It has FOV of 52 degrees which is not particularly wide. The A640/620 or the newer S series cameras would probably be better. Quality wise the zoom eyepiece should give good results and you have the option of using it at 50/60 x which is a great digiscoping range. >> Neil >> >> On 28 Jan 2012, at 7:01 AM, kevin crisp wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Hi all, I would like to use my kowa 77mm scope and my 25x scope eye piece with my canon A95. Can anybody help with threads etc. i have theKowa TSN_DA10 attachement and have been using my 20x60 zoom. The 25 x eyepiece seems to have a better field of veiw though i am finding it diffcult to get a clear image. regards Kevin >>> >>> >> >> > > >
Subject: Re: kowa / canon advice
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:21:29 -0500

There is no such thing as TOO much eye relief, but it might make you position the camera farther back from the eyepiece than you normally would expect to. Clay Taylor Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Sent from my iPad On Jan 27, 2012, at 6:56 PM, "Neil" > wrote: Kevin, I suspect that the 25x LER eyepiece has too much Eye Relief ( 32 mm of ER ) for the A95. It's lens is 38 - 114 mm which should be ok with most normal eyepieces of 18 - 20 mm of ER. It has FOV of 52 degrees which is not particularly wide. The A640/620 or the newer S series cameras would probably be better. Quality wise the zoom eyepiece should give good results and you have the option of using it at 50/60 x which is a great digiscoping range. Neil On 28 Jan 2012, at 7:01 AM, kevin crisp wrote: Hi all, I would like to use my kowa 77mm scope and my 25x scope eye piece with my canon A95. Can anybody help with threads etc. i have theKowa TSN_DA10 attachement and have been using my 20x60 zoom. The 25 x eyepiece seems to have a better field of veiw though i am finding it diffcult to get a clear image. regards Kevin
Subject: Re: kowa / canon advice
From: Neil <neilfif11 AT yahoo.com.au>
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:56:33 +0800

Kevin, I suspect that the 25x LER eyepiece has too much Eye Relief ( 32 mm of ER ) for the A95. It's lens is 38 - 114 mm which should be ok with most normal eyepieces of 18 - 20 mm of ER. It has FOV of 52 degrees which is not particularly wide. The A640/620 or the newer S series cameras would probably be better. Quality wise the zoom eyepiece should give good results and you have the option of using it at 50/60 x which is a great digiscoping range. Neil On 28 Jan 2012, at 7:01 AM, kevin crisp wrote: > > > Hi all, I would like to use my kowa 77mm scope and my 25x scope eye piece with my canon A95. Can anybody help with threads etc. i have theKowa TSN_DA10 attachement and have been using my 20x60 zoom. The 25 x eyepiece seems to have a better field of veiw though i am finding it diffcult to get a clear image. regards Kevin > > >
Subject: kowa / canon advice
From: kevin crisp <kcrisp63 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:01:24 +0000 (GMT)

Hi all, I would like to use my kowa 77mm scope and my 25x scope eye piece with my canon A95. Can anybody help with threads etc. i have theKowa TSN_DA10 attachement and have been using my 20x60 zoom. The 25 x eyepiece seems to have a better field of veiw though i am finding it diffcult to get a clear image. regards Kevin
Subject: Re: CES / PMA show cameras for digiscoping
From: Mike Grant <mocurlew AT att.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:10:27 -0800 (PST)

So, does anybody have any idea WHAT Panasonic is going to release in the M4/3s line?Â Â B&H had marked the GH2 with the longer lens as discontinued, but now show asÂ temporarily unavailable.Â I am wondering if there will be a GH3 or if that line is being retired. Thank you, Mike Grant Chesterfield, MO ________________________________ From: Clay Taylor To: "digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 4:12:44 PM Subject: [digiscopingbirds] CES / PMA show cameras for digiscoping Â Hi all â€“ Â While I was at the Panasonic booth, a fellow behind the counter said that there would be new cameras coming from Panasonic in a month or so, so it appears that the proliferation of big-screen TVs, tablet computers, video games, etc., was not the environment in which the camera guys wanted to try and compete for publicity. Clay Taylor TOS Life Member Calallen (Corpus Christi),Â TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Â Â Â
Subject: RE: hello
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:41:43 -0500

Really and truly, it depends on SO many factors - The distance to the subject The lighting conditions The subject's actions / behavior The digiscoper / photographer's skill at using their equipment That's kind of like asking whether a 5-iron is better than a Sand Wedge - it depends on what kind of golf shot is needed. Clay Taylor TOS Life Member Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Haas Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:13 PM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello I think it has been said many times previously on this ListServ that photographing with any camera through a spotting scope will not provide images superior to images obtained with expensive telephoto lenses. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you. Joel E. Haas haas.joel AT mindspring.com On 1/25/2012 4:17 PM, João Martins( Biologia) wrote: Hello everyone, I thank colleagues for the tips. Are all recorded and I'm doing my research on the sites listed. João Another comment Joao, You will need a shorter focal length lens for your camera to do digiscoping. Perhaps a 25 to 40mm would be best. A slower lens may be better since no part of the lens faster than about f/8 will ever be used for digiscoping, not mater where you have the aperture set. You did not say what eyepiece the scope has or what kind. If it can use the standard Astro 1 1/4 inch size I like to use the 17mm Baader Hyperion. It digiscopes well with the 20mm of eye-relief. Gene 2012/1/24 João Martins( Biologia) > Hello Gene and all Thanks for having me. Good to know I'm in the right group. I am a birdwatcher and as I have an SLR camera (Canon 400mm f5.6 lens+ macro 105mm f2.8+7D+ manfroto tripod), my interest is focused on this equipment at digiscoping. I have a 400mm lens, but always wanted more. I can say I have a basic knowledge of photographic technique (aperture, depth of field, speed, composition). With regard to digiscoping, I am interested in photography of hawks and waterfowl, because I can hardly close enough to get an adequate picture. My first question: what would be a good equipment for a beginner? I am very interested in very sharp images and quality and have come a long way in search of these images (not yet arrived where you'd like) in photography. I believe that the images obtained can be used in a future publication, hence the interest in image quality. Most of the images that I run in the Cerrado, a savannah biome characterized by low trees and esparssadas that provide good amount of light (often in excess). Unfortunately, in Brazil, we have a good variety of equipment and imports are forced to increase the price of the equipment. So I want to receive information about a digiscoping equipment that would allow me to enter that world. I Got U $ 2,000.00 to invest. Gene, if you have a text on using SLR digiscoping would be grateful to receive and have also accessed the birdforum. Thank you all. PS> How much does not dominate the English language, I have had the help of google translator, so I apologize for events inconsistencies in my speech. http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio 2012/1/24 Clay Taylor > Hello Joao, In following Gene's introduction, I find that it is helpful when these questions are answered - What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already indicated birds, but what kind - hawks, shorebirds, forest birds, hummingbirds, etc.? At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How close can you typically get to them? In what lighting conditions? What quality of photos do you want to achieve - submit to magazines, enter contests, print and sell,......? What equipment do you already own, and how much money to you plan on spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping? The more specifically you can answer any of these questions, the more we can help. Clay Taylor TOS Life Member Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Francis Smith Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello Hello Joao Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on. I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you. Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you want. Gene Smith 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) > Hello all, I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. thank you João -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos "Ir para o mato é ir para casa". John Muir -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos "Ir para o mato é ir para casa". John Muir -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos "Ir para o mato é ir para casa". John Muir
Subject: Re: teleconverter for 400/5.6; gimbal heads
From: eric kallen <rightnow AT cox.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:52:14 -0800

Another approach is to find a 300/ 2.8 and add a teleconverter. The current IS version of the Canon 300/2.8 is way too expensive .. but older and perfectly good auto-focus versions can be found on Ebay. The 300/2.8 has a much larger objective lens (105mm vs 77mm for the 400/5.6 and it collects twice the light ).. this translates into better contrast, faster shutter speeds and overall better pics. With a 1.4 TC the combo becomes 420/4 ... and with a 2x teleconverter you will have a 600/5.6 ... and the auto focus will still work. The 300/2.8 with a teleconverter can be hand held in good light, but it is a big pain. You will need to keep the shutter speeds up at about 1/1000. So a tripod is often necessary. The carbon tripod is still a very good idea. I went from a high quality Manfroto aluminum tripod to a pro Gitzo carbon and there was an obvious improvement using my Nikkor 300/2.8 with a 1.4 TC. The TC can be the weak link in the system. It is crucial that you get a high quality TC to go with your expensive big lens. By this time, however, you've spent about $2800.00. http://egk.smugmug.com/Photography/Orioles Eric Kallen San Diego On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:18 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: > > < quality lens extender 2x or 1.4x,>> > > For my Sigma Apo Tele HSM 400/5.6, I have a Tamron SP AF 1.4 > teleconverter, which "lies" to the camera, which thinks the f-stop > is still f5.6, so I get auto-focus, albeit not that quickly, but in > bright light it ought to work. Here is the link to the Canon > version, about 360 reals... not that I have any idea what the > shipping or import duty might be, if it's not available in Brazil. > > http://www.adorama.com/TM14XPEOS.html > > Beyond good carbon fiber tripod legs, a GIMBAL head facilitates > using a long lens on an SLR. Some are better than others. If there > is any chance that you might eventually upgrade to a larger lens > than the 400/5.6, overbuying on these two items might reals reals > spent down the road. > > Or...you can do what I did, which was to buy a Canon SX40HS 35X > "superzoom," various earlier comments about this one in various > postings, about 700 reals. > > Alan Birnbaum > Fresno CA > >
Subject: Re: shutter speeds of 1/100 &1/200
From: Tom Berriman <tom.berriman AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:26:00 -0800 (PST)

Clay, That is a D90 Â Tom ________________________________ From: Clay Taylor To: "digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] shutter speeds of 1/100 &1/200 Â Which camera body were you using? Clay Taylor Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Sent from my iPad On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:23 PM, "Tom Berriman" wrote: Â >Hello All > >Sun almost came out here but before I could get it together I wound upÂ shooting at 1/100 and 1/200 with the 40mm lens. Cedar and Bohemian Waxwings coming through. It seemed to handle it Ok with ISO of 400. Usually like lower ISO but it worked. Here is a link for what those speeds look like. > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoll1/Â > >Tom Berriman >
Subject: Re: shutter speeds of 1/100 &1/200
From: Neil <neilfif11 AT yahoo.com.au>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:45:14 +0800

Detail looks good Tom. Neil On 27 Jan 2012, at 5:21 AM, Tom Berriman wrote: > > > Hello All > > Sun almost came out here but before I could get it together I wound up shooting at 1/100 and 1/200 with the 40mm lens. Cedar and Bohemian Waxwings coming through. It seemed to handle it Ok with ISO of 400. Usually like lower ISO but it worked. Here is a link for what those speeds look like. > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoll1/ > > Tom Berriman > > > > >
Subject: Re: Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS
From: Neil <neilfif11 AT yahoo.com.au>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:27:14 +0800

Frank, We all like to photograph at long distances which is why we keep "pushing the envelope" with digiscoping. One of the limitation of kit lenses is that generally they are not good enough to handle the issues at distance eg haze,humidity,pollution , especially over water. One of the good things about Nikon is that they have put some good glass in some of their digicams ( usually marked as ED ). Canon also in their G series and close behind their S Series. With Micro Four Thirds most people have found better results with third party lenses eg old Nikon,Canon,Pentax lenses. I have one of the new Zeiss 28/2.0 which is an excellent lens. I found a 35-70/mm Nikon which is an excellent zoom , although loses a bit of light due to length. If you need more magnification you are usually better off zooming the eyepiece or stepping up to a higher power eyepiece than zooming the camera lens. Unfortunately the DCB is not designed to handle a DSLR plus zoom lens. You might be able to find a 40 mm Pancake lens ( eg Pentax) than might fit. Neil On 26 Jan 2012, at 2:46 AM, Frank wrote: > Helmut > > I would be very interested to learn if the GX Vario 14-42mm works with the DCB as I am planning to use the same combination, so it would be great if you could let us know about the result of your testing > So far I have been using the 20mm pancake on a fixed 30 mm ocular, with great results, but frustation about the the inability to zoom. > > I am also curious about the optical qualities of that zoom lens - it seems to be getting rather mixed reviews so far. It has 2 ED glass elements - could this be helpful for longer distance shots? > > greetings > Frank > > --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, "vanellus35" wrote: >> >> Thanks to Tara and Clay for their message.I have the opportunity to test the lens on Saturday with our dealer in Hamburg. If the DCB adapter does not work, I have probably to buy the DCA. But I will test it because I had no problems with the DCB and my old Nikon P 5100. >> >> Helmut >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: teleconverter for 400/5.6; gimbal heads
From: SiriusGuy AT aol.com
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:18:31 -0500 (EST)

<> For my Sigma Apo Tele HSM 400/5.6, I have a Tamron SP AF 1.4 teleconverter, which "lies" to the camera, which thinks the f-stop is still f5.6, so I get auto-focus, albeit not that quickly, but in bright light it ought to work. Here is the link to the Canon version, about 360 reals... not that I have any idea what the shipping or import duty might be, if it's not available in Brazil. _http://www.adorama.com/TM14XPEOS.html_ (http://www.adorama.com/TM14XPEOS.html) Beyond good carbon fiber tripod legs, a GIMBAL head facilitates using a long lens on an SLR. Some are better than others. If there is any chance that you might eventually upgrade to a larger lens than the 400/5.6, overbuying on these two items might reals reals spent down the road. Or...you can do what I did, which was to buy a Canon SX40HS 35X "superzoom," various earlier comments about this one in various postings, about 700 reals. Alan Birnbaum Fresno CA
Subject: Re: shutter speeds of 1/100 &1/200
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:47:29 -0500

Which camera body were you using? Clay Taylor Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Sent from my iPad On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:23 PM, "Tom Berriman" > wrote: Hello All Sun almost came out here but before I could get it together I wound up shooting at 1/100 and 1/200 with the 40mm lens. Cedar and Bohemian Waxwings coming through. It seemed to handle it Ok with ISO of 400. Usually like lower ISO but it worked. Here is a link for what those speeds look like. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoll1/ Tom Berriman
Subject: shutter speeds of 1/100 &1/200
From: Tom Berriman <tom.berriman AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:21:34 -0800 (PST)

Hello All Sun almost came out here but before I could get it together I wound up shooting at 1/100 and 1/200 with the 40mm lens. Cedar and Bohemian Waxwings coming through. It seemed to handle it Ok with ISO of 400. Usually like lower ISO but it worked. Here is a link for what those speeds look like. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpoll1/ Tom Berriman
Subject: Re: Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:00:58 -0500

All - The optical qualities of that lens when evaluated for traditional photography should not be inferred when using it for Digiscoping. The lens was never designed to work behind a spotting scope eyepiece, so its optical Interaction with a given scope eyepiece is impossible to predict. We have seen excellent lenses work just "ok" for Digiscoping, and average-grade lenses work very well. That said, it looked great through my E-P2 and 20-60x scope eyepiece, but the images were of the inside of the convention center, and certainly not applicable to bird photography. Clay Taylor Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Sent from my iPad On Jan 26, 2012, at 11:46 AM, "Frank" > wrote: Helmut I would be very interested to learn if the GX Vario 14-42mm works with the DCB as I am planning to use the same combination, so it would be great if you could let us know about the result of your testing So far I have been using the 20mm pancake on a fixed 30 mm ocular, with great results, but frustation about the the inability to zoom. I am also curious about the optical qualities of that zoom lens - it seems to be getting rather mixed reviews so far. It has 2 ED glass elements - could this be helpful for longer distance shots? greetings Frank --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, "vanellus35" wrote: > > Thanks to Tara and Clay for their message.I have the opportunity to test the lens on Saturday with our dealer in Hamburg. If the DCB adapter does not work, I have probably to buy the DCA. But I will test it because I had no problems with the DCB and my old Nikon P 5100. > > Helmut >
Subject: Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS
From: "Frank" <frank.vassen AT skynet.be>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:46:25 -0000

Helmut I would be very interested to learn if the GX Vario 14-42mm works with the DCB as I am planning to use the same combination, so it would be great if you could let us know about the result of your testing So far I have been using the 20mm pancake on a fixed 30 mm ocular, with great results, but frustation about the the inability to zoom. I am also curious about the optical qualities of that zoom lens - it seems to be getting rather mixed reviews so far. It has 2 ED glass elements - could this be helpful for longer distance shots? greetings Frank --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, "vanellus35" wrote: > > Thanks to Tara and Clay for their message.I have the opportunity to test the lens on Saturday with our dealer in Hamburg. If the DCB adapter does not work, I have probably to buy the DCA. But I will test it because I had no problems with the DCB and my old Nikon P 5100. > > Helmut > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: hello
From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:39:20 +1100

Tara et al, There is an old saying in my country, "t'ain't what yez got, 's'what yez can do with it". I think that applies to all forms of photography and photographic equipment. Carl Clifford On 26/01/2012, at 1:27 PM, Tara Tanaka wrote: I have read more than once that digiscoping will not produce photos as good as an expensive telephoto lens. I respectfully disagree with that statement. I don’t know that I would go as far as saying that digiscoped images are superior to those taken with an ETL, but I do think they can be as good. Tara http://www.flickr.com/photos/focused-on-birds http://www.youtube.com/h2otara From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Joel Haas Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:13 PM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello I think it has been said many times previously on this ListServ that photographing with any camera through a spotting scope will not provide images superior to images obtained with expensive telephoto lenses. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you. Joel E. Haas haas.joel AT mindspring.com On 1/25/2012 4:17 PM, João Martins( Biologia) wrote: Hello everyone, I thank colleagues for the tips. Are all recorded and I'm doing my research on the sites listed. João Another comment Joao, You will need a shorter focal length lens for your camera to do digiscoping. Perhaps a 25 to 40mm would be best. A slower lens may be better since no part of the lens faster than about f/8 will ever be used for digiscoping, not mater where you have the aperture set. You did not say what eyepiece the scope has or what kind. If it can use the standard Astro 1 1/4 inch size I like to use the 17mm Baader Hyperion. It digiscopes well with the 20mm of eye-relief. Gene 2012/1/24 João Martins( Biologia) Hello Gene and all Thanks for having me. Good to know I'm in the right group. I am a birdwatcher and as I have an SLR camera (Canon 400mm f5.6 lens+ macro 105mm f2.8+7D+ manfroto tripod), my interest is focused on this equipment at digiscoping. I have a 400mm lens, but always wanted more. I can say I have a basic knowledge of photographic technique (aperture, depth of field, speed, composition). With regard to digiscoping, I am interested in photography of hawks and waterfowl, because I can hardly close enough to get an adequate picture. My first question: what would be a good equipment for a beginner? I am very interested in very sharp images and quality and have come a long way in search of these images (not yet arrived where you'd like) in photography. I believe that the images obtained can be used in a future publication, hence the interest in image quality. Most of the images that I run in the Cerrado, a savannah biome characterized by low trees and esparssadas that provide good amount of light (often in excess). Unfortunately, in Brazil, we have a good variety of equipment and imports are forced to increase the price of the equipment. So I want to receive information about a digiscoping equipment that would allow me to enter that world. I Got U $ 2,000.00 to invest. Gene, if you have a text on using SLR digiscoping would be grateful to receive and have also accessed the birdforum. Thank you all. PS> How much does not dominate the English language, I have had the help of google translator, so I apologize for events inconsistencies in my speech. http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio 2012/1/24 Clay Taylor Hello Joao, In following Gene’s introduction, I find that it is helpful when these questions are answered – What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already indicated birds, but what kind – hawks, shorebirds, forest birds, hummingbirds, etc.? At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How close can you typically get to them? In what lighting conditions? What quality of photos do you want to achieve – submit to magazines, enter contests, print and sell,……? What equipment do you already own, and how much money to you plan on spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping? The more specifically you can answer any of these questions, the more we can help. Clay Taylor TOS Life Member Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Francis Smith Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello Hello Joao Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on. I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you. Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you want. Gene Smith 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) Hello all, I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. thank you João -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos “Ir para o mato é ir para casa”. John Muir -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos “Ir para o mato é ir para casa”. John Muir -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos “Ir para o mato é ir para casa”. John Muir
Subject: Re: hello
From: Rick Phillips <sunfish0501 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:52:56 -0500

I would completely agree with Tara. I've seen some beautiful, digiscoped photos from people on this forum that are so clear and detailed that I find it hard to believe they could be much better with any equipment. Rick On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Tara Tanaka wrote: > ** > > > I have read more than once that digiscoping will not produce photos as > good as an expensive telephoto lens. I respectfully disagree with that > statement. I don’t know that I would go as far as saying that digiscoped > images are superior to those taken with an ETL, but I do think they can be > as good.**** > > Tara**** > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/focused-on-birds**** > > http://www.youtube.com/h2otara **** > > ** ** > > *From:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto: > digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Haas > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:13 PM > > *To:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello**** > > ** ** > > **** > > I think it has been said many times previously on this ListServ that > photographing with any camera through a spotting scope will not provide > images superior to images obtained with expensive telephoto lenses. Please > correct me if I am wrong. Thank you.**** > > Joel E. Haas**** > > haas.joel AT mindspring.com**** > > > On 1/25/2012 4:17 PM, João Martins( Biologia) wrote: **** > > **** > > Hello everyone, > > I thank colleagues for the tips. Are all recorded and I'm doing my > research on the sites listed. > João > > **** > > ** ** > > **** > > Another comment Joao,**** > > You will need a shorter focal length lens for your camera to do > digiscoping. Perhaps a 25 to 40mm would be best. A slower lens may be > better since no part of the lens faster than about f/8 will ever be used > for digiscoping, not mater where you have the aperture set. **** > > **** > > You did not say what eyepiece the scope has or what kind. If it can use > the standard Astro 1 1/4 inch size I like to use the 17mm Baader Hyperion. > It digiscopes well with the 20mm of eye-relief. Gene **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > > > **** > > 2012/1/24 João Martins( Biologia) **** > > ** ** > > **** > > Hello Gene and all > Thanks for having me. > Good to know I'm in the right group. > I am a birdwatcher and as I have an SLR camera (Canon 400mm f5.6 lens+ > macro 105mm f2.8+7D+ manfroto tripod), my interest is focused on this > equipment at digiscoping. I have a 400mm lens, but always wanted more. I > can say I have a basic knowledge of photographic technique (aperture, depth > of field, speed, composition). With regard to digiscoping, I am interested > in photography of hawks and waterfowl, because I can hardly close enough to > get an adequate picture. > My first question: what would be a good equipment for a beginner? I am > very interested in very sharp images and quality and have come a long way > in search of these images (not yet arrived where you'd like) in > photography. I believe that the images obtained can be used in a future > publication, hence the interest in image quality. > Most of the images that I run in the Cerrado, a savannah biome > characterized by low trees and esparssadas that provide good amount of > light (often in excess). > Unfortunately, in Brazil, we have a good variety of equipment and imports > are forced to increase the price of the equipment. So I want to receive > information about a digiscoping equipment that would allow me to enter that > world. I Got U $ 2,000.00 to invest. > Gene, if you have a text on using SLR digiscoping would be grateful to > receive and have also accessed the birdforum. > Thank you all. > PS> How much does not dominate the English language, I have had the help > of google translator, so I apologize for events inconsistencies in my > speech. > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio **** > > ** ** > > 2012/1/24 Clay Taylor **** > > **** > > Hello Joao,**** > > **** > > In following Gene’s introduction, I find that it is helpful when these > questions are answered –**** > > **** > > What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already indicated birds, > but what kind – hawks, shorebirds, forest birds, hummingbirds, etc.?**** > > **** > > At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How close can you > typically get to them?**** > > **** > > In what lighting conditions?**** > > **** > > What quality of photos do you want to achieve – submit to magazines, enter > contests, print and sell,……?**** > > **** > > What equipment do you already own, and how much money to you plan on > spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping?**** > > **** > > The more specifically you can answer any of these questions, the more we > can help.**** > > **** > > **** > > Clay Taylor**** > > TOS Life Member**** > > Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX**** > > Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto: > digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Francis Smith > *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM > *To:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello**** > > **** > > **** > > Hello Joao**** > > Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There > is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a > section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they > are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on > the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on.**** > > **** > > I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about > basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a > friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are > looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you.**** > > **** > > Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point > and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get > different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you > want. Gene Smith **** > > **** > > > > **** > > 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) **** > > **** > > Hello all, > I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with > introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that > make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in > Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. > thank you > João > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > *“Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”.* > *John Muir***** > > **** > > > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* > *John Muir***** > > ** ** > > > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* > *John Muir***** > > **** > > > -- Rick Phillips Kingsport, Tennessee
Subject: RE: hello
From: "Tara Tanaka" <h2otara AT comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:27:24 -0500

I have read more than once that digiscoping will not produce photos as good as an expensive telephoto lens. I respectfully disagree with that statement. I don’t know that I would go as far as saying that digiscoped images are superior to those taken with an ETL, but I do think they can be as good. Tara http://www.flickr.com/photos/focused-on-birds http://www.youtube.com/h2otara From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Haas Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:13 PM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello I think it has been said many times previously on this ListServ that photographing with any camera through a spotting scope will not provide images superior to images obtained with expensive telephoto lenses. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you. Joel E. Haas haas.joel AT mindspring.com On 1/25/2012 4:17 PM, João Martins( Biologia) wrote: Hello everyone, I thank colleagues for the tips. Are all recorded and I'm doing my research on the sites listed. João Another comment Joao, You will need a shorter focal length lens for your camera to do digiscoping. Perhaps a 25 to 40mm would be best. A slower lens may be better since no part of the lens faster than about f/8 will ever be used for digiscoping, not mater where you have the aperture set. You did not say what eyepiece the scope has or what kind. If it can use the standard Astro 1 1/4 inch size I like to use the 17mm Baader Hyperion. It digiscopes well with the 20mm of eye-relief. Gene 2012/1/24 João Martins( Biologia) Hello Gene and all Thanks for having me. Good to know I'm in the right group. I am a birdwatcher and as I have an SLR camera (Canon 400mm f5.6 lens+ macro 105mm f2.8+7D+ manfroto tripod), my interest is focused on this equipment at digiscoping. I have a 400mm lens, but always wanted more. I can say I have a basic knowledge of photographic technique (aperture, depth of field, speed, composition). With regard to digiscoping, I am interested in photography of hawks and waterfowl, because I can hardly close enough to get an adequate picture. My first question: what would be a good equipment for a beginner? I am very interested in very sharp images and quality and have come a long way in search of these images (not yet arrived where you'd like) in photography. I believe that the images obtained can be used in a future publication, hence the interest in image quality. Most of the images that I run in the Cerrado, a savannah biome characterized by low trees and esparssadas that provide good amount of light (often in excess). Unfortunately, in Brazil, we have a good variety of equipment and imports are forced to increase the price of the equipment. So I want to receive information about a digiscoping equipment that would allow me to enter that world. I Got U $ 2,000.00 to invest. Gene, if you have a text on using SLR digiscoping would be grateful to receive and have also accessed the birdforum. Thank you all. PS> How much does not dominate the English language, I have had the help of google translator, so I apologize for events inconsistencies in my speech. http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio 2012/1/24 Clay Taylor Hello Joao, In following Gene’s introduction, I find that it is helpful when these questions are answered – What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already indicated birds, but what kind – hawks, shorebirds, forest birds, hummingbirds, etc.? At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How close can you typically get to them? In what lighting conditions? What quality of photos do you want to achieve – submit to magazines, enter contests, print and sell,……? What equipment do you already own, and how much money to you plan on spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping? The more specifically you can answer any of these questions, the more we can help. Clay Taylor TOS Life Member Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Francis Smith Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello Hello Joao Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on. I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you. Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you want. Gene Smith 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) Hello all, I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. thank you João -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos “Ir para o mato é ir para casa”. John Muir -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos “Ir para o mato é ir para casa”. John Muir -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos “Ir para o mato é ir para casa”. John Muir
Subject: Re: hello
From: Joel Haas <haas.joel AT mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:13:21 -0800

I think it has been said many times previously on this ListServ that photographing with any camera through a spotting scope will not provide images superior to images obtained with expensive telephoto lenses. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you. Joel E. Haas haas.joel AT mindspring.com On 1/25/2012 4:17 PM, João Martins( Biologia) wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I thank colleagues for the tips. Are all recorded and I'm doing my > research on the sites listed. > João > > > Another comment Joao, > You will need a shorter focal length lens for your camera to do > digiscoping. Perhaps a 25 to 40mm would be best. A slower lens > may be better since no part of the lens faster than about f/8 will > ever be used for digiscoping, not mater where you have the > aperture set. > You did not say what eyepiece the scope has or what kind. If it > can use the standard Astro 1 1/4 inch size I like to use the 17mm > Baader Hyperion. It digiscopes well with the 20mm of > eye-relief. Gene > > > 2012/1/24 João Martins( Biologia) > > > Hello Gene and all > Thanks for having me. > Good to know I'm in the right group. > I am a birdwatcher and as I have an SLR camera (Canon 400mm > f5.6 lens+ macro 105mm f2.8+7D+ manfroto tripod), my interest > is focused on this equipment at digiscoping. I have a 400mm > lens, but always wanted more. I can say I have a basic > knowledge of photographic technique (aperture, depth of field, > speed, composition). With regard to digiscoping, I am > interested in photography of hawks and waterfowl, because I > can hardly close enough to get an adequate picture. > My first question: what would be a good equipment for a > beginner? I am very interested in very sharp images and > quality and have come a long way in search of these images > (not yet arrived where you'd like) in photography. I believe > that the images obtained can be used in a future publication, > hence the interest in image quality. > Most of the images that I run in the Cerrado, a savannah biome > characterized by low trees and esparssadas that provide good > amount of light (often in excess). > Unfortunately, in Brazil, we have a good variety of equipment > and imports are forced to increase the price of the equipment. > So I want to receive information about a digiscoping equipment > that would allow me to enter that world. I Got U $ 2,000.00 to > invest. > Gene, if you have a text on using SLR digiscoping would be > grateful to receive and have also accessed the birdforum. > Thank you all. > PS> How much does not dominate the English language, I have > had the help of google translator, so I apologize for events > inconsistencies in my speech. > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > > > > 2012/1/24 Clay Taylor > > > Hello Joao, > > In following Gene’s introduction, I find that it is > helpful when these questions are answered – > > What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already > indicated birds, but what kind – hawks, shorebirds, forest > birds, hummingbirds, etc.? > > At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How > close can you typically get to them? > > In what lighting conditions? > > What quality of photos do you want to achieve – submit to > magazines, enter contests, print and sell,……? > > What equipment do you already own, and how much money to > you plan on spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping? > > The more specifically you can answer any of these > questions, the more we can help. > > Clay Taylor > > TOS Life Member > > Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX > > Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us > > > *From:*digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of > *Francis Smith > *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM > *To:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello > > Hello Joao > > Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to > learn. There is the British based Birdforum group also. > A difference is they have a section devoted to astro > telescope digiscoping, but like this group they are > focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of > communication on the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very > little going on. > > I just do not know what you are looking for. I could > write pages about basic digiscoping, but not sure it would > be of interest. This is a friendly group, and there are > no dumb questions. After I see what you are looking for > then I would be glad to write some more material to you. > > Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such > as using Point and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex > cameras, so you will get different points of view. Feel > free to contact me directly anytime if you want. Gene Smith > > > > 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) > > > Hello all, > I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you > recommend a site with introduction to digiscoping. I am > particularly interested in sites that make reference to > the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in > Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with > emphasis on birds. > thank you > João > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > /“Ir para o mato é ir para casa//”./ > *John Muir* > > > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > /“//Ir para o mato é ir para casa//”//./ > *John Muir* > > > > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > /“//Ir para o mato é ir para casa//”//./ > *John Muir* > >
Subject: Re: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:12:42 -0500

Helmut - I think that the G2 and the zoom lens might be too long for the mounting stage of the DCB, but since I no longer have mine, I cannot say for sure. Wishing you good luck, Clay Taylor Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Sent from my iPad On Jan 25, 2012, at 5:48 AM, "vanellus35" > wrote: Thanks to Tara and Clay for their message.I have the opportunity to test the lens on Saturday with our dealer in Hamburg. If the DCB adapter does not work, I have probably to buy the DCA. But I will test it because I had no problems with the DCB and my old Nikon P 5100. Helmut
Subject: Re: Pentax EW thread size
From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:13:25 +1100

Hi Chan Kai Soon, Thanks for that. 43mm looks fairly close. I will see how a 43mm ring goes. Unfortunately, Murphys law has struck and amongst the dozen or so rings I have, the smallest is 49mm, so I will have to add to the collection. Say Hi to Connie Khoo for me when you next see her. Best Regards, Carl Clifford On 26/01/2012, at 2:23 AM, Kai Soon Chan wrote: I have a Pentax XW20mm eyepiece which is digiscopinng friendly. Its thread is 43mm and so it can be connected to the Olympus 14-42 kit lens by a 43-37 step ring. Also, vignetting disappears by at about 18mm focal length and remains so till the end of the zoom. Not sure whether EW eyepieces are similar. --------------------------- Warmest regards Chan Kai Soon Consultant Pathologist Ipoh, Perak, Malaysia Old home http://members.fortunecity.com/kaisoon/ Old Photos http://www.care2.com/c2c/photos/view/64/812580159/ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000052682589 Youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/chankaisoon#p/a To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com From: carlsclifford AT gmail.com Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:13:16 +1100 Subject: [digiscopingbirds] Pentax EW thread size Hi All, I have a quick question about the Pentax EW eye-pieces. Would anyone know what size is the tread that is at the top of the optical tube of Pentax EW eyepieces? I mean the thread that is revealed when you unscrew the top of the eye-piece. Carl Clifford
Subject: Re: hello
From: João Martins( Biologia) <martins.jbio AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:17:15 -0200

Hello everyone, I thank colleagues for the tips. Are all recorded and I'm doing my research on the sites listed. João ** > > > Another comment Joao, > You will need a shorter focal length lens for your camera to do > digiscoping. Perhaps a 25 to 40mm would be best. A slower lens may be > better since no part of the lens faster than about f/8 will ever be used > for digiscoping, not mater where you have the aperture set. > > You did not say what eyepiece the scope has or what kind. If it can use > the standard Astro 1 1/4 inch size I like to use the 17mm Baader Hyperion. > It digiscopes well with the 20mm of eye-relief. Gene > > > > > > > 2012/1/24 João Martins( Biologia) > > ** >> >> >> Hello Gene and all >> Thanks for having me. >> Good to know I'm in the right group. >> I am a birdwatcher and as I have an SLR camera (Canon 400mm f5.6 lens+macro 105mm f2.8+7D+ >> manfroto tripod), my interest is focused on this equipment at digiscoping >> . I have a 400mm lens, but always wanted more. I can say I have a basic >> knowledge of photographic technique (aperture, depth of field, speed, >> composition). With regard to digiscoping, I am interested in photography of >> hawks and waterfowl, because I can hardly close enough to get an >> adequate picture. >> My first question: what would be a good equipment for a beginner? I am >> very interested in very sharp images and quality and have come a long way in >> search of these images (not yet arrived where you'd like) in photography. I >> believe that the images obtained can be used in a future publication, >> hence the interest in image quality. >> Most of the images that I run in the Cerrado, a savannah biome characterized >> by low trees and esparssadas that provide good amount of light (often in >> excess). >> Unfortunately, in Brazil, we have a good variety of equipment and imports are >> forced to increase the price of the equipment. So I want to receive >> information about a digiscoping equipment that would allow me to enter >> that world. I Got U $ 2,000.00 to invest. >> Gene, if you have a text on using SLR digiscoping would be grateful to >> receive and have also accessed the birdforum. >> Thank you all. >> PS> How much does not dominate the English language, I have had the help >> of google translator, so I apologize for events inconsistencies in my >> speech. >> http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio >> http://br.olhares.com/joaobio >> >> >> 2012/1/24 Clay Taylor >> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Hello Joao,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> In following Gene’s introduction, I find that it is helpful when these >>> questions are answered –**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already indicated birds, >>> but what kind – hawks, shorebirds, forest birds, hummingbirds, etc.?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How close can you >>> typically get to them?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> In what lighting conditions?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> What quality of photos do you want to achieve – submit to magazines, >>> enter contests, print and sell,……?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> What equipment do you already own, and how much money to you plan on >>> spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> The more specifically you can answer any of these questions, the more we >>> can help.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Clay Taylor**** >>> >>> TOS Life Member**** >>> >>> Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX**** >>> >>> Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto: >>> digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Francis Smith >>> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM >>> *To:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Hello Joao**** >>> >>> Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There >>> is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a >>> section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they >>> are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on >>> the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about >>> basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a >>> friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are >>> looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point >>> and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get >>> different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you >>> want. Gene Smith **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Hello all, >>> I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with >>> introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that >>> make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in >>> Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. >>> thank you >>> João >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> jbio - Fotografia >>> http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio >>> http://br.olhares.com/joaobio >>> http://jbio.multiply.com/photos >>> >>> *“Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”.* >>> *John Muir***** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> jbio - Fotografia >> http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio >> http://br.olhares.com/joaobio >> http://jbio.multiply.com/photos >> >> *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* >> *John Muir* >> >> > > -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* *John Muir*
Subject: Re: hello
From: Francis Smith <smithhill1 AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:27:00 -0500

Another comment Joao, You will need a shorter focal length lens for your camera to do digiscoping. Perhaps a 25 to 40mm would be best. A slower lens may be better since no part of the lens faster than about f/8 will ever be used for digiscoping, not mater where you have the aperture set. You did not say what eyepiece the scope has or what kind. If it can use the standard Astro 1 1/4 inch size I like to use the 17mm Baader Hyperion. It digiscopes well with the 20mm of eye-relief. Gene 2012/1/24 João Martins( Biologia) > ** > > > Hello Gene and all > Thanks for having me. > Good to know I'm in the right group. > I am a birdwatcher and as I have an SLR camera (Canon 400mm f5.6 lens+macro 105mm f2.8+7D+ > manfroto tripod), my interest is focused on this equipment at digiscoping. I > have a 400mm lens, but always wanted more. I can say I have a basic > knowledge of photographic technique (aperture, depth of field, speed, > composition). With regard to digiscoping, I am interested in photography of > hawks and waterfowl, because I can hardly close enough to get an adequate > picture. > My first question: what would be a good equipment for a beginner? I am > very interested in very sharp images and quality and have come a long way in > search of these images (not yet arrived where you'd like) in photography. I > believe that the images obtained can be used in a future publication, > hence the interest in image quality. > Most of the images that I run in the Cerrado, a savannah biome characterized > by low trees and esparssadas that provide good amount of light (often in > excess). > Unfortunately, in Brazil, we have a good variety of equipment and imports are > forced to increase the price of the equipment. So I want to receive > information about a digiscoping equipment that would allow me to enter > that world. I Got U $ 2,000.00 to invest. > Gene, if you have a text on using SLR digiscoping would be grateful to > receive and have also accessed the birdforum. > Thank you all. > PS> How much does not dominate the English language, I have had the help > of google translator, so I apologize for events inconsistencies in my > speech. > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > > > 2012/1/24 Clay Taylor > >> ** >> >> >> Hello Joao,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> In following Gene’s introduction, I find that it is helpful when these >> questions are answered –**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already indicated birds, >> but what kind – hawks, shorebirds, forest birds, hummingbirds, etc.?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How close can you >> typically get to them?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> In what lighting conditions?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What quality of photos do you want to achieve – submit to magazines, >> enter contests, print and sell,……?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What equipment do you already own, and how much money to you plan on >> spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The more specifically you can answer any of these questions, the more we >> can help.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Clay Taylor**** >> >> TOS Life Member**** >> >> Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX**** >> >> Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto: >> digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Francis Smith >> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM >> *To:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello**** >> >> ** ** >> >> **** >> >> Hello Joao**** >> >> Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There >> is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a >> section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they >> are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on >> the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on.**** >> >> **** >> >> I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about >> basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a >> friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are >> looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you.**** >> >> **** >> >> Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point >> and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get >> different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you >> want. Gene Smith **** >> >> **** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) **** >> >> **** >> >> Hello all, >> I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with >> introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that >> make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in >> Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. >> thank you >> João >> >> >> -- >> >> jbio - Fotografia >> http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio >> http://br.olhares.com/joaobio >> http://jbio.multiply.com/photos >> >> *“Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”.* >> *John Muir***** >> >> ** ** >> >> **** >> >> > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* > *John Muir* > > >
Subject: Re: hello
From: Francis Smith <smithhill1 AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:15:50 -0500

Hello again Joao, You do have some fine equipment already. There is sometimes competition between the advocates of long lenses and digiscoping. With the addition of a tele-converter and your present equipment in prime focus mode you can have perhaps half the power available from digiscoping. I have no estimation of the optical quality of your 400mm Canon lens compared with a good typically 500mm spotting scope, but they may be very similar. Of course you would be using only about 1/3 of the field the lens was designed to produce. You will be limited in picture quality by longer distances and higher temperture days. In digiscoping a larger camera sensor is not better, at least in many peoples judgment. You Canon is 1.6 crop, which should be fine. The 2X crop Panasonic G1 and later has been a digiscoping favorite. Tara Tanaka, who posts on this forum, has very good success with it and very deservingly was awarded the Digiscoper of the Year award. Check out her web site. http://www.flickr.com/photos/focused-on-birds Although I have a G1 and an Olympus Epl-1 4/3 cameras I use point and shoot cameras more, such as the Panasonic Lumix LX-3. Also the Lumix FH-1 and FH-2. The latter is very small, and weighs 120 grams. The FH-1 is available for less than $100 now. I also digiscope the moon with the use of a 10 inch diameter Dob. type reflector type telescope and digiscope snow crystals with a special fabricated microscope equipment. In each of these applications I get superior results digiscoping than with prime focus DSLR cameras. I also suggest you check out the web site of Rick Phillips, a professional that does fine work using long focus lenses with tele-converters in prime focus mode, digiscopes with different cameras including my little Lumix FH-1. Most of his posts list the equipment used. Most of us use only one size camera or mode of photography, but Rick is unique in that he uses it all very well and thus is a good source of comparative information. He is very fond of the Celestron Regal Fluorite spotting scope, which is very competitively priced in the U.S. He posts on this forum and lists his web site. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ricksphotos0501/ The most awkward aspect of digiscoping is the placement and fixturing of the camera lens with respect to the scope eyepiece. Only a few point and shoot cameras are easy to use, and it is also important that the eyepiece have a long eye relief of 17mm or longer. Perhaps the undisputed champion of eyepieces is the Kowa LER, which fits only Kowa scopes. It is important that this placement produce a minimum of vignetting and even brightness with the zooms used. DSLR have less of a problem of lens selection than Point and Shoot cameras. Many people use an additional support bar to position a relatively heavy DSLR camera. Gene Smith 2012/1/24 João Martins( Biologia) > ** > > > Hello Gene and all > Thanks for having me. > Good to know I'm in the right group. > I am a birdwatcher and as I have an SLR camera (Canon 400mm f5.6 lens+macro 105mm f2.8+7D+ > manfroto tripod), my interest is focused on this equipment at digiscoping. I > have a 400mm lens, but always wanted more. I can say I have a basic > knowledge of photographic technique (aperture, depth of field, speed, > composition). With regard to digiscoping, I am interested in photography of > hawks and waterfowl, because I can hardly close enough to get an adequate > picture. > My first question: what would be a good equipment for a beginner? I am > very interested in very sharp images and quality and have come a long way in > search of these images (not yet arrived where you'd like) in photography. I > believe that the images obtained can be used in a future publication, > hence the interest in image quality. > Most of the images that I run in the Cerrado, a savannah biome characterized > by low trees and esparssadas that provide good amount of light (often in > excess). > Unfortunately, in Brazil, we have a good variety of equipment and imports are > forced to increase the price of the equipment. So I want to receive > information about a digiscoping equipment that would allow me to enter > that world. I Got U $ 2,000.00 to invest. > Gene, if you have a text on using SLR digiscoping would be grateful to > receive and have also accessed the birdforum. > Thank you all. > PS> How much does not dominate the English language, I have had the help > of google translator, so I apologize for events inconsistencies in my > speech. > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > > > 2012/1/24 Clay Taylor > >> ** >> >> >> Hello Joao,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> In following Gene’s introduction, I find that it is helpful when these >> questions are answered –**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already indicated birds, >> but what kind – hawks, shorebirds, forest birds, hummingbirds, etc.?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How close can you >> typically get to them?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> In what lighting conditions?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What quality of photos do you want to achieve – submit to magazines, >> enter contests, print and sell,……?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What equipment do you already own, and how much money to you plan on >> spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The more specifically you can answer any of these questions, the more we >> can help.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Clay Taylor**** >> >> TOS Life Member**** >> >> Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX**** >> >> Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto: >> digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Francis Smith >> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM >> *To:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello**** >> >> ** ** >> >> **** >> >> Hello Joao**** >> >> Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There >> is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a >> section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they >> are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on >> the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on.**** >> >> **** >> >> I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about >> basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a >> friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are >> looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you.**** >> >> **** >> >> Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point >> and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get >> different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you >> want. Gene Smith **** >> >> **** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) **** >> >> **** >> >> Hello all, >> I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with >> introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that >> make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in >> Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. >> thank you >> João >> >> >> -- >> >> jbio - Fotografia >> http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio >> http://br.olhares.com/joaobio >> http://jbio.multiply.com/photos >> >> *“Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”.* >> *John Muir***** >> >> ** ** >> >> **** >> >> > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* > *John Muir* > > >
Subject: Re: hello Joao and do your math
From: João Martins( Biologia) <martins.jbio AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:34:11 -0200

Luis, Thanks for the clarification about digiscoping. Record all your tips. I'm getting a borrowed telescope to try to get some pictures. bye -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* *John Muir*
Subject: RE: Pentax EW thread size
From: Kai Soon Chan <chankaisoon AT hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:23:40 +0800

I have a Pentax XW20mm eyepiece which is digiscopinng friendly. Its thread is 43mm and so it can be connected to the Olympus 14-42 kit lens by a 43-37 step ring. Also, vignetting disappears by at about 18mm focal length and remains so till the end of the zoom. Not sure whether EW eyepieces are similar. --------------------------- Warmest regards Chan Kai Soon Consultant Pathologist Ipoh, Perak, Malaysia Old home http://members.fortunecity.com/kaisoon/ Old Photos http://www.care2.com/c2c/photos/view/64/812580159/ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000052682589 Youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/chankaisoon#p/a To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com From: carlsclifford AT gmail.com Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:13:16 +1100 Subject: [digiscopingbirds] Pentax EW thread size Hi All, I have a quick question about the Pentax EW eye-pieces. Would anyone know what size is the tread that is at the top of the optical tube of Pentax EW eyepieces? I mean the thread that is revealed when you unscrew the top of the eye-piece. Carl Clifford
Subject: Re: hello Joao and do your math
From: "Luis" <olarte1 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:24:37 -0000

Hello Joao, welcome to the group. "Voce acho a turma certa, bemvindo" But... I am not sure digiscoping will bring the results you are expecting. I checked your photoblogs and you are quite humble about your qualifications as bird photographer, you have great pictures. Now, if your 400mm f5.6 lens is not getting you close enough, I don't believe digiscoping will help you solve your photographic problems. I know the environment in which you work, the "cerrado". You wrote, " I am very interested in very sharp images..." Joao, I am sure you too know the cerrado quite well, it will turn into an inferno of heat, plus wind, plus dust on the dry season, and heat plus humidity during the rainy season. Those are all sharpness killers in long distance shots. You also say you are a birdwatcher, in those open spaces nothing beats sighting through a good scope. So welcome to digiscoping , the land of dilemmas. How to best spend your US$2.000 dollars.? Choice #1.-Get the best quality lens extender 2x or 1.4x, and upgrade your tripod to long sturdy carbon legs. Use that extra power early in the morning before the sun heats the atmosphere. Keep learning about those raptors and waterbirds, get closer, it is possible. Try using a blind. Choice #2.- Buy a 65mm spotting scope, a nice point and shoot camera, and work on a homemade adapter. You will enjoy great birding and bring back many very nice pictures. The way I see it and IMHO, in your case its either bird watching or photography. " Agora vou me deitar, acho que ja me arrume um temporal, com trovoes e raios, chegando do norte!" Translation: Now I lay down, I believe I stirred a storm, lightning and thunder, mostly coming from the north. ;-) Joao, whatever you decide, we need more people like you, the Brazilian Cerrado is in grave danger. You live in brasilia, you are close to the people making decisions. Show them the beauty of your land. Your work will make a difference for sure. from the coffee mountains saludos Luis G. Olarte ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Panasonic G2 and Lumix GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS
From: "vanellus35" <helmut.schumann AT fulmar.de>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:47:51 -0000

Thanks to Tara and Clay for their message.I have the opportunity to test the lens on Saturday with our dealer in Hamburg. If the DCB adapter does not work, I have probably to buy the DCA. But I will test it because I had no problems with the DCB and my old Nikon P 5100. Helmut ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Pentax EW thread size
From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:13:16 +1100

Hi All, I have a quick question about the Pentax EW eye-pieces. Would anyone know what size is the tread that is at the top of the optical tube of Pentax EW eyepieces? I mean the thread that is revealed when you unscrew the top of the eye-piece. Carl Clifford ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: hello
From: João Martins( Biologia) <martins.jbio AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:45:41 -0200

Hello Gene and all Thanks for having me. Good to know I'm in the right group. I am a birdwatcher and as I have an SLR camera (Canon 400mm f5.6 lens+macro 105mm f2.8+7D+ manfroto tripod), my interest is focused on this equipment at digiscoping. I have a 400mm lens, but always wanted more. I can say I have a basic knowledge of photographic technique (aperture, depth of field, speed, composition). With regard to digiscoping, I am interested in photography of hawks and waterfowl, because I can hardly close enough to get an adequate picture. My first question: what would be a good equipment for a beginner? I am very interested in very sharp images and quality and have come a long way in search of these images (not yet arrived where you'd like) in photography. I believe that the images obtained can be used in a future publication, hence the interest in image quality. Most of the images that I run in the Cerrado, a savannah biome characterized by low trees and esparssadas that provide good amount of light (often in excess). Unfortunately, in Brazil, we have a good variety of equipment and imports are forced to increase the price of the equipment. So I want to receive information about a digiscoping equipment that would allow me to enter that world. I Got U $ 2,000.00 to invest. Gene, if you have a text on using SLR digiscoping would be grateful to receive and have also accessed the birdforum. Thank you all. PS> How much does not dominate the English language, I have had the help of google translator, so I apologize for events inconsistencies in my speech. http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio 2012/1/24 Clay Taylor > ** > > > Hello Joao,**** > > ** ** > > In following Gene’s introduction, I find that it is helpful when these > questions are answered –**** > > ** ** > > What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already indicated birds, > but what kind – hawks, shorebirds, forest birds, hummingbirds, etc.?**** > > ** ** > > At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How close can you > typically get to them?**** > > ** ** > > In what lighting conditions?**** > > ** ** > > What quality of photos do you want to achieve – submit to magazines, enter > contests, print and sell,……?**** > > ** ** > > What equipment do you already own, and how much money to you plan on > spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping?**** > > ** ** > > The more specifically you can answer any of these questions, the more we > can help.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Clay Taylor**** > > TOS Life Member**** > > Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX**** > > Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto: > digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Francis Smith > *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM > *To:* digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello**** > > ** ** > > **** > > Hello Joao**** > > Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There > is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a > section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they > are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on > the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on.**** > > **** > > I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about > basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a > friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are > looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you.**** > > **** > > Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point > and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get > different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you > want. Gene Smith **** > > **** > > > > **** > > 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) **** > > **** > > Hello all, > I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with > introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that > make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in > Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. > thank you > João > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > *“Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”.* > *John Muir***** > > ** ** > > **** > > > -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* *John Muir*
Subject: RE: hello
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:15:35 -0500

Hello Joao, In following Gene's introduction, I find that it is helpful when these questions are answered - What subjects do you want to digiscope? You already indicated birds, but what kind - hawks, shorebirds, forest birds, hummingbirds, etc.? At what distances do you want to digiscope them? How close can you typically get to them? In what lighting conditions? What quality of photos do you want to achieve - submit to magazines, enter contests, print and sell,......? What equipment do you already own, and how much money to you plan on spending to outfit yourself for digiscoping? The more specifically you can answer any of these questions, the more we can help. Clay Taylor TOS Life Member Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Francis Smith Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:55 PM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] hello Hello Joao Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on. I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you. Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you want. Gene Smith 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) > Hello all, I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. thank you João -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos "Ir para o mato é ir para casa". John Muir
Subject: Re: hello
From: Neil Fifer <neilfif11 AT yahoo.com.au>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:33:27 +0800

Welcome. This is the best place to ask questions but if you would like to do some reading up , as Gene mentioned ,have a look at http://www.birdforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=243 Neil Sent from my iPad On 23 Jan, 2012, at 11:48 PM, JoÃ£o Martins( Biologia) wrote: > > > Hello all, > I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in Brazil and now I work as fotoÃ³grafo in nature with emphasis on birds. > thank you > JoÃ£o > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > â€œIr para o mato Ã© ir para casaâ€. > John Muir > > > >
Subject: Re: hello
From: Francis Smith <smithhill1 AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:54:43 -0500

Hello Joao Welcome to the group. You are indeed in the best group to learn. There is the British based Birdforum group also. A difference is they have a section devoted to astro telescope digiscoping, but like this group they are focused on birds. There is a very limited amount of communication on the astro site Cloudy Nights, but very little going on. I just do not know what you are looking for. I could write pages about basic digiscoping, but not sure it would be of interest. This is a friendly group, and there are no dumb questions. After I see what you are looking for then I would be glad to write some more material to you. Keep in mind there are different camps of interest, such as using Point and Shoot cameras and slingle lens reflex cameras, so you will get different points of view. Feel free to contact me directly anytime if you want. Gene Smith 2012/1/23 João Martins( Biologia) > ** > > > Hello all, > I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with introduction > to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that make reference > to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in Brazil and now I > work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. > thank you > João > > > -- > > jbio - Fotografia > http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio > http://br.olhares.com/joaobio > http://jbio.multiply.com/photos > > *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* > *John Muir* > > >
Subject: SDHC file write times and SX40HS frame rates
From: SiriusGuy AT aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:09:07 -0500 (EST)

<> So, for MY purposes, even shooting just JPEG, the difference might not be evident at the "Normal" setting, which generates a 1.5 MB file, but would likely be evident with the larger "Fine" file size, which is twice that. Class 4 actual write speed 2.6 MB/sec; allows 0.9 frames/sec for a 3 MB file; 1.8 frames/sec on "Normal" Class 10 actual write speed 7.8 MB/sec; allows 2.6 frames sec for a 3 MB file; 5.2 frames/sec on "Normal" My question has been ANSWERED. Thank you everyone. I think I will get a pair of 16 MB Class 10 SDHC cards. Alan Birnbaum
Subject: hello
From: João Martins( Biologia) <martins.jbio AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:48:20 -0200

Hello all, I'm new to the forum and would like to know if you recommend a site with introduction to digiscoping. I am particularly interested in sites that make reference to the equipment, they still make my purchase. I live in Brazil and now I work as fotoógrafo in nature with emphasis on birds. thank you João -- jbio - Fotografia http://www.wikiaves.com.br/perfil_jbio http://br.olhares.com/joaobio http://jbio.multiply.com/photos *“**Ir para o mato é ir para casa**”**.* *John Muir*
Subject: RE: Panasonic G2
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:05:45 -0500

V35 - The lens will work fine behind the 25-50xW eyepiece, probably eliminating the vignetting at around 25 - 30 mm or so. It has internal focusing, so it does not change length while it focuses - that is good. However, since the lens barrel extends when zoomed to maximum, you might have a challenge getting it to work well at different focal lengths while mounted on the DCB. While the DCB is probably fine for using the 20mm pancake lens, the DCA would be a more user-friendly system with the Panasonic zoom lens. Clay Taylor TOS Life Member Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vanellus35 Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:12 AM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [digiscopingbirds] Panasonic G2 I am currently using a Panasonic G2 with the pancake lenses G 20mm- f 1,7 for digiscoping with a Swarovski ATM 80 the 25-50 eyepiece and the Swarovski DCB Adapter. Does anyone know (or had tested) how the LUMIX(r) GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS Lens works? How is the vignetting?
Subject: Re: Tripod recommendations
From: "dick_myatt" <dick AT dickmyatt.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:37:43 -0000

Interested to hear you went with the 055CXPRO4, Pen. I need to replace my Manfrotto 443 legs which are now in the possession of a member of the Portuguese underworld! The 443 is no longer made, but was just short enough when closed to fit in my checked luggage. So I have to choose between the 055CXPRO4 and 190CXPRO3 as being the 2 shortest/lightest options. Saw both in a shop today and was very pleasantly surprised by the rigidity of the 190C. Only negative of the 190C I can see is max weight capacity of 5kg (vs 8kg), but I haven't seen the 190C mentioned in this thread. Has anyone any experience of the 190C series vs the 055C series? Thanks, Dick --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, "penali18" wrote: > > > Thanks for the recommendation Dick. Yes, I do have a Scopac (the original version I think) but haven't used it since buying the Lowepro Scope Porter late last summer. I won't retire the Scopac entirely as it still serves a purpose when I want to travel lighter. > > Now that I have returned home from the hospital following ankle surgery, I would like to thank everyone for their advice. I bit the bullet today and ordered a Manfrotto 055CXPro4, now that they are back in stock in the UK. The final deciding factor, which hadn't occurred to me until the middle of the night last night, was the fact that I often use lightweight camo tripod sleeves. Therefore I didn't think operating twist lock legs through the sleeves would prove easy, hence I opted for the Manfrotto with the lever grips which I can feel through the material. At least, the general consensus on the Manfrotto 055 carbon fibre series was positive. The offer of a free 324RC2 joystick head was tempting too. It may well come in handy for general photography purposes rather than for digiscoping... > > Anyway, thanks again. I look forward to trying it out once I'm up on my feet again. > > Pen > > > --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, "dick_myatt" wrote: > > > > I take it you are all (especially UK-based members) familiar with Scopac tripod carriers? > > > > http://www.scopac.co.uk > > > > Most (if not all) of my friends swear by them. > > > > Dick Myatt > > > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: Camera Mounting Device
From: "digiscopeman" <digiscopeman AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:12:02 -0000

Why not use the Vortex PS-100 or their DCA which has 37mm and 52mm attachments --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, JOS JUPIN wrote: > > Hi Folks...I am thinking about purchasing an "Alpen Digital Camera Adapter for Spotting Scopes" to mount my Canon xsi to a Vortex Razor. Does anyone have experience with this device? Any comments and/or recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks, Joe > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: Nikon FT-1 adapter
From: "digiscopeman" <digiscopeman AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:07:27 -0000

Hard to tell quality from size !! --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, Fernando Corrada wrote: > > Hi all. > I got the Nikon V1 with the FT-1 ( hard to find in the US) for a trip last week to Puerto Rico. I did use the Nikon 28-300 zoom with a Gitzo Traveler Series 1 for a very light and compact system. I have uploaded 3 images taken with that setup. I had the 300 f4 but did not use it with the V1. I will do that next. > The images were cropped, contrast enhanced and sharpened with PS Elements. So far I think it is a viable alternative to digiscopes and DSLR' s with long telephotos. Birds were from 25 to 70 ft away. > > http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/febco1 > > Fernando B. Corrada > > > Sent from my iPhone > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: RE: Panasonic G2
From: "Tara Tanaka" <h2otara AT comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:14:37 -0500

I haven't tried it yet, but I heard from someone who was able to get their hands on one that there was virtually none on that eyepiece from about 18mm up. Tara http://www.flickr.com/photos/focused-on-birds http://www.youtube.com/h2otara From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vanellus35 Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:12 AM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [digiscopingbirds] Panasonic G2 I am currently using a Panasonic G2 with the pancake lenses G 20mm- f 1,7 for digiscoping with a Swarovski ATM 80 the 25-50 eyepiece and the Swarovski DCB Adapter. Does anyone know (or had tested) how the LUMIXR GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS Lens works? How is the vignetting?
Subject: Panasonic G2
From: "vanellus35" <helmut.schumann AT fulmar.de>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:11:57 -0000

I am currently using a Panasonic G2 with the pancake lenses G 20mm- f 1,7 for digiscoping with a Swarovski ATM 80 the 25-50 eyepiece and the Swarovski DCB Adapter. Does anyone know (or had tested) how the LUMIX® GX VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER OIS Lens works? How is the vignetting? ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: RE: Canon SX40HS - choice of SD/SDHC cards
From: "Tara Tanaka" <h2otara AT comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:22:11 -0500

Terry, Thank you for the follow-up with measured times! Tara http://www.flickr.com/photos/focused-on-birds http://www.youtube.com/h2otara From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry Dillon Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:08 PM To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] Canon SX40HS - choice of SD/SDHC cards Tara and Stephen A follow up on my testing the SX40 - frame speed using various Class memory cards. As from my previous results showing no difference in frame rate when taking JPEG images. I now have tested Class 4 and Class 10 cards with Raw files from the SX40 (DNG format). Files were 18meg as a DNG. The results tend to confirm your feelings on this Tara. File times....................Class 4 - 7sec/frame (0.143 frames/sec) - Class 10 - 2.3sec/frame (0.43 frames/sec)............ which is approx 300% faster Terry Dillon ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Ingraham To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] Canon SX40HS - choice of SD/SDHC cards There is always someone ready with facts to spoil every good theory. :) The power of wishful thinking I guess. On Jan 12, 2012 3:29 PM, "Terry Dillon" wrote: Stephen I have recently purchased a Canon SX40HS! Your comments on the speed of SD cards when using the SX40..................that triggered me into looking at the subject. My set up was...........loaded a Stopwatch program on the PC - camera(SX40) set for continuous frames. Started the Stopwatch and proceeded to photograh the "Stopwatch" for 10 frames. The first and last frames gave me a fairly accurate 10 frame time. Three different SD cards used......4Gb Class 4, 4Gb Class 6 and 8Gb Class 10. Results below................. As you will see from the results I found no change in frame/sec speed for the various Classes of card Hope my logic is correct for this experiment. Terry Dillon Gold Coast Australia. SX40 Gb Class Time(Sec)/10frames Frames/sec 4 4 3.9 2.6 4 4 3.9 2.6 4 6 4.1 2.6 4 6 3.9 2.6 8 10 4 2.6 8 10 4 2.6 Burst Mode Class Time(Sec)/8 frames Frames/sec 8GB 10 0.97 8.2 8GB 10 0.97 8.2 Comparison with sx20 Gb Class Time(Sec)/10frames Frames/sec 4 4 9.7 1.0 4 4 9.4 1.1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Ingraham To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] Canon SX40HS - choice of SD/SDHC cards Alan and Neil, The class 10 does make a difference in the continous shooting rate...bumps it, as far as I can see, from about 2.7 to close to 4fps. On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Neil wrote: Alan, I shoot a lot of HD video with mine and I was lucky to get a deal at B and H when I was there in October for 4 x Sandisk Extreme 16 gig Class 10 for US29 each. Now I never have to change a card in the field and I can shoot all day. When I'm digiscoping from a blind ( which is 90% of the time here ) I have the SX40HS shooting video continuously on the window sill. If you don't shoot HD video then a Class 6 card 4 gig would be enough for most days. Neil On 6 Jan 2012, at 11:48 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: Might either Neil Fifer or Steven Ingraham, who have been using the Canon SX40HS, have any caveats or recommendations, regarding choice of SD/SDHC cards for it? Thanks to my wife's choice of birthday present, mine has just arrived. I am considering that instead of one larger card, 16GB or so, that it might be better to get perhaps 4 4GB cards or so, such that if I would not lose images already shot, if I ever had the misfortune to somehow lose the camera during travel. I am aware that some cards offer faster shot to shot operation than others. Thanks for any advisory or other related input on getting started with this camera. Alan Birnbaum Fresno CA -- Steve Ingraham lightshedder: www.lightshedder.com Point and Shoot for Landscape: Point and Shoot for Wildlife Pic for Today Cloudy Days and Connected Nights: No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . SPAMfighter has removed 375 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4743 - Release Date: 01/14/12 _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter . SPAMfighter has removed 392 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan!
Subject: Re: How balance Swarovski ATM80, DCA, and D-SLR?
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:18:00 -0500

Hi Chris - The angle of the eyepiece might just make the 40D and the 50mm lens with a DCA balance when using the Swarovski Optik Spotting Scope Rail (NOT the older Balance Rail). Of course, you can make up your own rail system, or use a beanbag across the sunshade of the scope (fill it with bb shot) to achieve the same results. I have not tried the Canon 60mm Macro for Digiscoping with the 1.6x crop factor cameras. Typically, a 50mm Macro on a 1.5x crop factor camera does not get rid of the vignetting. Clay Taylor Calallen (Corpus Christi) TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us Sent from my iPad On Jan 22, 2012, at 7:00 PM, "Chris Hugosson" > wrote: Hello, I've been playing with a Canon 40D and 50mm lens on a DCA hooked up to a Swarovski ATM80. Even with my longest Arca-Swiss plate the setup is heavily tilted to the camera end. How do you balance your SLR setups? Is the Swarovski balance rail long enough? Also, I read on some blog that the Canon 60mm EF-S macro lens works well for digiscoping. Has anyone in this grouped tried this lens for digiscoping? Many thanks. /Chris
Subject: Re: Canon SX40HS - choice of SD/SDHC cards
From: "Terry Dillon" <tsdillon AT bigpond.net.au>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:08:12 +1000

Tara and Stephen A follow up on my testing the SX40 - frame speed using various Class memory cards. As from my previous results showing no difference in frame rate when taking JPEG images. I now have tested Class 4 and Class 10 cards with Raw files from the SX40 (DNG format). Files were 18meg as a DNG. The results tend to confirm your feelings on this Tara. File times....................Class 4 - 7sec/frame (0.143 frames/sec) - Class 10 - 2.3sec/frame (0.43 frames/sec)............ which is approx 300% faster Terry Dillon ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Ingraham To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] Canon SX40HS - choice of SD/SDHC cards There is always someone ready with facts to spoil every good theory. :) The power of wishful thinking I guess. On Jan 12, 2012 3:29 PM, "Terry Dillon" wrote: Stephen I have recently purchased a Canon SX40HS! Your comments on the speed of SD cards when using the SX40..................that triggered me into looking at the subject. My set up was...........loaded a Stopwatch program on the PC - camera(SX40) set for continuous frames. Started the Stopwatch and proceeded to photograh the "Stopwatch" for 10 frames. The first and last frames gave me a fairly accurate 10 frame time. Three different SD cards used......4Gb Class 4, 4Gb Class 6 and 8Gb Class 10. Results below................. As you will see from the results I found no change in frame/sec speed for the various Classes of card Hope my logic is correct for this experiment. Terry Dillon Gold Coast Australia. SX40 Gb Class Time(Sec)/10frames Frames/sec 4 4 3.9 2.6 4 4 3.9 2.6 4 6 4.1 2.6 4 6 3.9 2.6 8 10 4 2.6 8 10 4 2.6 Burst Mode Class Time(Sec)/8 frames Frames/sec 8GB 10 0.97 8.2 8GB 10 0.97 8.2 Comparison with sx20 Gb Class Time(Sec)/10frames Frames/sec 4 4 9.7 1.0 4 4 9.4 1.1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Ingraham To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] Canon SX40HS - choice of SD/SDHC cards Alan and Neil, The class 10 does make a difference in the continous shooting rate...bumps it, as far as I can see, from about 2.7 to close to 4fps. On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Neil wrote: Alan, I shoot a lot of HD video with mine and I was lucky to get a deal at B and H when I was there in October for 4 x Sandisk Extreme 16 gig Class 10 for US29 each. Now I never have to change a card in the field and I can shoot all day. When I'm digiscoping from a blind ( which is 90% of the time here ) I have the SX40HS shooting video continuously on the window sill. If you don't shoot HD video then a Class 6 card 4 gig would be enough for most days. Neil On 6 Jan 2012, at 11:48 PM, SiriusGuy AT aol.com wrote: Might either Neil Fifer or Steven Ingraham, who have been using the Canon SX40HS, have any caveats or recommendations, regarding choice of SD/SDHC cards for it? Thanks to my wife's choice of birthday present, mine has just arrived. I am considering that instead of one larger card, 16GB or so, that it might be better to get perhaps 4 4GB cards or so, such that if I would not lose images already shot, if I ever had the misfortune to somehow lose the camera during travel. I am aware that some cards offer faster shot to shot operation than others. Thanks for any advisory or other related input on getting started with this camera. Alan Birnbaum Fresno CA -- Steve Ingraham lightshedder: www.lightshedder.com Point and Shoot for Landscape: Point and Shoot for Wildlife Pic for Today Cloudy Days and Connected Nights: No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 375 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4743 - Release Date: 01/14/12 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 392 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Subject: How balance Swarovski ATM80, DCA, and D-SLR?
From: "Chris Hugosson" <yahoo AT hugosson.info>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:57:16 -0000

Hello, I've been playing with a Canon 40D and 50mm lens on a DCA hooked up to a Swarovski ATM80. Even with my longest Arca-Swiss plate the setup is heavily tilted to the camera end. How do you balance your SLR setups? Is the Swarovski balance rail long enough? Also, I read on some blog that the Canon 60mm EF-S macro lens works well for digiscoping. Has anyone in this grouped tried this lens for digiscoping? Many thanks. /Chris ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: Measuring Distance
From: "Olavi Kemppainen" <olavi.kemppainen AT kolumbus.fi>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:06:57 +0200

Hello This works very well, thanks. Olavi Kemppainen Finland ----------------------------- From: Clay Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:27 AM To: 'digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [digiscopingbirds] Measuring Distance Tom et al â€“ Here is a great way to learn distances without buying a rangefinder. From a fixed viewpoint, spot large landmarks (houses, street intersections, etc.,) and estimate the distances to them. Then go on Google Earth, call up the satellite photo of the spot, and at the top of the frame click on the Ruler icon. Then select line. Click on where you were standing, then click on the landmark, and GE will give you the yardage. Clay Taylor TOS Life Member Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX Clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us
Subject: Re: Swarovski and Canon 7D HELP
From: "blayneolsen" <bolsen187 AT frontier.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:35:59 -0000

Thank you --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, Clay Taylor wrote: > > # 1 - turn the autofocus OFF, because the camera's AF system cannot work with a lens darker than f/5.6, and the scope acts like f/22 > #2 - set the camera lens to infinity > #3 - you can look through the camera's viewfinder, frame the subject, touch up the scope focus to make sure you have the correct things in focus > #4 - shoot the picture and review the results > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:14 PM, "blayneolsen" > wrote: > > > > My wife bought an 60mm scope and I got the DCA to mount my 7D. Then I bought a used 50mm 1.4 usm since I didn't have a prime lens. The lens would bind when focusing so I got Canon to rebuild. Still will not focus when hanging off the scope. Now what? I read somewhere that I should shoot wide open, focus on infinity and do final focus with the scope. Is this proper or do I need a non auto focus legacy lens in order to do manual focus? Is there a technique for taking some pressure off the lens so that I don't need another lens? > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: More images from Kowa TSN-884 anc Canon 7D
From: ashim.dey AT gmail.com
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 04:06:01 -0000

Tara and Dave, Thanks for liking and your encouragement. Roma, I am using a Kowa scope (TSN-884) with a DSLR (Canon 7d). Ashim --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, "davehickson123" wrote: > > > Ashim > Some really good images here, lots of detail, great exposure and great poses > Dave > --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, ashim.dey AT wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I had posted some pics for review in this thread regarding the quality > > of pics from the Kowa TSN-884 and the Canon 7D and had got valuable > > feedback here: > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/message/27289 > > > > > > I have since made some more images and I think I am much more satisfied > > now with this digiscoping outfit. Here is a recent gallery for your > > perusal and feedback. > > > > http://www.ashimdey.com/2012/01/18/water-birds-from-vedhanthangal-januar\ > > y-2012/ > > > ry-2012/> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Ashim > > > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: Swarovski and Canon 7D HELP
From: Clay Taylor <clay.taylor AT swarovskioptik.us>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:01:41 -0500

# 1 - turn the autofocus OFF, because the camera's AF system cannot work with a lens darker than f/5.6, and the scope acts like f/22 #2 - set the camera lens to infinity #3 - you can look through the camera's viewfinder, frame the subject, touch up the scope focus to make sure you have the correct things in focus #4 - shoot the picture and review the results Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2012, at 12:14 PM, "blayneolsen" > wrote: My wife bought an 60mm scope and I got the DCA to mount my 7D. Then I bought a used 50mm 1.4 usm since I didn't have a prime lens. The lens would bind when focusing so I got Canon to rebuild. Still will not focus when hanging off the scope. Now what? I read somewhere that I should shoot wide open, focus on infinity and do final focus with the scope. Is this proper or do I need a non auto focus legacy lens in order to do manual focus? Is there a technique for taking some pressure off the lens so that I don't need another lens?
Subject: Swarovski and Canon 7D HELP
From: "blayneolsen" <bolsen187 AT frontier.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:21:35 -0000

My wife bought an 60mm scope and I got the DCA to mount my 7D. Then I bought a used 50mm 1.4 usm since I didn't have a prime lens. The lens would bind when focusing so I got Canon to rebuild. Still will not focus when hanging off the scope. Now what? I read somewhere that I should shoot wide open, focus on infinity and do final focus with the scope. Is this proper or do I need a non auto focus legacy lens in order to do manual focus? Is there a technique for taking some pressure off the lens so that I don't need another lens? ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: Measuring Distance
From: "gtk_trout23" <glenn AT gntnz.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:08:50 -0000

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. As varied and creative as I had expected. I am looking forward to sitting down and working with Jay's impressive tool. Glenn --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, Clay Taylor wrote: > > Tom et al â€" > > Here is a great way to learn distances without buying a rangefinder. From a fixed viewpoint, spot large landmarks (houses, street intersections, etc.,) and estimate the distances to them. Then go on Google Earth, call up the satellite photo of the spot, and at the top of the frame click on the Ruler icon. Then select line. Click on where you were standing, then click on the landmark, and GE will give you the yardage. > > > Clay Taylor > TOS Life Member > Calallen (Corpus Christi), TX > Clay.taylor AT ... > > > > From: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Berriman > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:04 PM > To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com > Subject: [digiscopingbirds] Measuring Distance > > > At home I actually used a 100' tape to measure off distances from my house of 25', 50' and 75' so I could get a grasp on those distances. I do a lot of digiscoping around the place all year. I usually think of longer distances in terms of baseball field and football field measurements. > Last weekend I did a Bald Eagle survey here in Vermont. I saw one what I believed to be between 1/3 and 1/2 mile ( closer to 1/2 mile I think)away down the river on a branch. Setting up the scope and a 35mm lens I took this photo. Poor photo but used for documentation. No crop to photo. > Anything over 150' for me is documentation. Probably anything over 100' to be more honest. But any measurements under 200' feet I feel I come pretty close to the distance. I don't lose any sleep if I say it was 165' and it was really 153'. > > Tom Berriman > > From: Francis Smith > > To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:10 PM > Subject: Re: [digiscopingbirds] Measuring Distance > > > No, I do not think you need a range finder. Relate distance to the length of things you are familiar with, such as the length of your car, the width and length of your house. Measure them and remember the size. Practice the one yard stride so you can "step off" distances. A bit of a stretch for me, but I claim to be able to step off distances with greater than 95% accuracy. But, never set manual focus, always manual or auto focus with a camera. Gene > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:14 AM, gtk_trout23 > wrote: > > I am lousy at estimating distance, and was thinking of getting some sort of laser rangefinder. Any suggestions for ether improving estimation skills or gadgets to measure? Thanks in advance. > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: More images from Kowa TSN-884 anc Canon 7D
From: "davehickson123" <davehickson_1 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:01:08 -0000

Ashim Some really good images here, lots of detail, great exposure and great poses Dave --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, ashim.dey AT ... wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I had posted some pics for review in this thread regarding the quality > of pics from the Kowa TSN-884 and the Canon 7D and had got valuable > feedback here: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/message/27289 > > > I have since made some more images and I think I am much more satisfied > now with this digiscoping outfit. Here is a recent gallery for your > perusal and feedback. > > http://www.ashimdey.com/2012/01/18/water-birds-from-vedhanthangal-januar\ > y-2012/ > ry-2012/> > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Ashim > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: Tripod recommendations
From: "penali18" <penlack AT me.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:17:29 -0000

Thanks for the recommendation Dick. Yes, I do have a Scopac (the original version I think) but haven't used it since buying the Lowepro Scope Porter late last summer. I won't retire the Scopac entirely as it still serves a purpose when I want to travel lighter. Now that I have returned home from the hospital following ankle surgery, I would like to thank everyone for their advice. I bit the bullet today and ordered a Manfrotto 055CXPro4, now that they are back in stock in the UK. The final deciding factor, which hadn't occurred to me until the middle of the night last night, was the fact that I often use lightweight camo tripod sleeves. Therefore I didn't think operating twist lock legs through the sleeves would prove easy, hence I opted for the Manfrotto with the lever grips which I can feel through the material. At least, the general consensus on the Manfrotto 055 carbon fibre series was positive. The offer of a free 324RC2 joystick head was tempting too. It may well come in handy for general photography purposes rather than for digiscoping... Anyway, thanks again. I look forward to trying it out once I'm up on my feet again. Pen --- In digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com, "dick_myatt" wrote: > > I take it you are all (especially UK-based members) familiar with Scopac tripod carriers? > > http://www.scopac.co.uk > > Most (if not all) of my friends swear by them. > > Dick Myatt > ------------------------------------ Please post bird photos to our other group birds-pix AT yahoogroups.com.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digiscopingbirds-digest AT yahoogroups.com digiscopingbirds-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digiscopingbirds-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of
Subject: Re: More images from Kowa TSN-884 anc Canon 7D
From: Lisa Romaniuk <missyewhoo AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:16:35 -0800 (PST)

Ashim What lens are you using on your 7d?Â Lisa Romaniuk --- On Wed, 1/18/12, ashim.dey AT gmail.com wrote: From: ashim.dey AT gmail.com Subject: [digiscopingbirds] More images from Kowa TSN-884 anc Canon 7D To: digiscopingbirds AT yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 3:10 AM Â Hi all, I had posted some pics for review in this thread regarding the quality of pics from the Kowa TSN-884 and the Canon 7D and had got valuable feedback here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/digiscopingbirds/message/27289 I have since made some more images and I think I am much more satisfied now with this digiscoping outfit. Here is a recent gallery for your perusal and feedback. http://www.ashimdey.com/2012/01/18/water-birds-from-vedhanthangal-january-2012/ Â Thanks in advance, Ashim

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