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The dates for this message should have been 8/21 and 8/22. My apologies for this discrepancy. I shouldn't have worked on this email so late at night. Tom Langschied Kingsville, TXSubject: King Ranch (South Texas) Odonates 8/22 & 8/23
Fellow Ode Oglers, On Thursday, August 22, from 8:50 am to 12:50 pm, Sibyl Deacon and I visited various areas on the Santa Gertrudis Div. of King Ranch (located in South Texas) looking for butterflies and dragonflies. Most areas visited included close proximity to small wetlands. Odonate highlights included a female Blue-faced Darner (well away from the usual haunts), the continued presence of Orange-bellied Skimmers, and a Spot-tailed Dasher. And then on Friday, August 23, from 11:50 am to 12:25 pm, I visited a small pond I had not been to in some time also on the Santa Gertrudis Div. and in Kleberg County. While the pond was fairly small it had a nice diversity of odes (14 species). Below are the list of dragonflies found during the two outings. Odonates seen on 08/22/03 (A) and 08/23/03 (B) A B 1.. Familiar Bluet -- (Enallagma civile) - 2 2.. Rambur's Forktail -- (Ischnura ramburii) 2 - 3.. Common Green Darner -- (Anax junius) 4 - 4.. Blue-faced Darner -- (Coryphaeschna adnexa) 1 - 5.. Red-tailed Pennant -- (Brachymesia furcata) 9 10 6.. Four-spotted Pennant -- (B. gravida) 19 39 7.. Pin-tailed Pondhawk - (Erythemis plebja) 1 2 8.. Eastern Pondhawk -- (E. simplicicollis) 50 32 9.. Great Pondhawk -- (E. vesiculosa) - 2 10.. Band-winged Dragonlet - (Erythrodiplax umbrata) 4 - 11.. Marl Pennant -- (Macrodiplax balteata) - 1 12.. Hyacinth Glider -- (Miathyria marcella) 33 4 13.. Thornbush Dasher -- (Micrathyria hagenii) - 6 14.. Spot-tailed Dasher -- (M. aequalis) 1 - 15.. Roseate Skimmer -- (Orthemis ferruginea) 39 29 16.. Orange-bellied Skimmer -- (O. discolor) 3 - 17.. Blue Dasher -- (Pachydiplax longipennis) 6 21 18.. Wandering Glider - (Pantala flavescens) 3 - 19.. Eastern Amberwing - (Perethemis tenera) 6 3 20.. Black Saddlebags -- (Tramea lacerata) 8 2 21.. Red Saddlebags -- (T. onusta) 9 6 Optimistic Ode Ogling, Tom Langschied Kingsville, TXSubject: Re: Green Darner?
Let us know where you are and we'll send you links pertinent to your area. If you're on the western side of the Rockies, my website will be helpful. The main link is in my 'signature' but here's a link that will take you right to where the Green Darners are on my site: http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/Pond/dragons/darners.html#ANJU Kathy Biggs -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ Biggs Family Nesting Site http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-584-7668 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- dragonflywinged wrote: > > Hi Folks! I'm an audubon member and I'm usually birding, but this > morning at about 7am...I was looking at my tangerine tree, which is > infected with white fly, and low and behold: A rather large dragon > was hanging on a small branch.....He/she was so cooperative that I > was able to photograph for over two hours. It was very interesting > to watch the light play on the wings and body as the sun was rising. > > I would love to share a few of the photos with you...but I don't know > how to upload a folder or a pic....:(( > > Anyway, nice to be onboard. If you have any interesting links or > websites you want to share about the dragons, Damsels and > Darners...pls feel free to e-mail me. > > byee for now. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Green Darner?
Hi Folks! I'm an audubon member and I'm usually birding, but this morning at about 7am...I was looking at my tangerine tree, which is infected with white fly, and low and behold: A rather large dragon was hanging on a small branch.....He/she was so cooperative that I was able to photograph for over two hours. It was very interesting to watch the light play on the wings and body as the sun was rising. I would love to share a few of the photos with you...but I don't know how to upload a folder or a pic....:(( Anyway, nice to be onboard. If you have any interesting links or websites you want to share about the dragons, Damsels and Darners...pls feel free to e-mail me. byee for now. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: RE: what is it?
Thanks for the info. No I did not collect
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From: Seth Williamson [mailto:seth AT swva.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 8:01 PM
To: darners AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [darners] what is it?
I sent the photos to my entomologist friend Charlie Magolda, and got
this response:
Seth, tell him it is a species of the Family Ichneumonidae,
Order:(Hymenoptera. See:
http://iris.biosci.ohio-state.edu/catalogs/ichneumonids/
Nice specimen. Did he collect it?
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Subject: what is it?I sent the photos to my entomologist friend Charlie Magolda, and got this response: Seth, tell him it is a species of the Family Ichneumonidae, Order:(Hymenoptera. See: http://iris.biosci.ohio-state.edu/catalogs/ichneumonids/ Nice specimen. Did he collect it? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: RE: what is it?
thanks. It really did not look like a dragonfly
Matt
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From: Roxy [mailto:phatchik3 AT yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 5:33 PM
To: darners AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [darners] what is it?
That looks like some kind of hymenopteran (wasps). We have those here.
The tails are ovipositors - they bore into trees and stumps to lay
eggs. Icheneumons? I think it's something like that. I'm not sure
what the common name is, maybe another list member does.
-Roxy in Ohio.
--- Matthew Taylor wrote:
>
> I found this insect hanging from my house this hot August afternoon.
> I do
> not know what it is, but thought it might be a dragonfly. I have not
> found
> it on any of the sites I have visited. Can anyone identify the
> critter in
> the attached photos? I live in Littleton Colorado, the temperature
> is about
> 90 F, RH around 20%. Outside of moving "antennea" it has been
> stationary
> for over an hour on the brick. The brick is standard height 2.25 "
> with
> 0.50 " mortar joints.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthew L. Taylor
> Littleton, CO 80120
>
>
> A
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Subject: Re: what is it?That looks like some kind of hymenopteran (wasps). We have those here. The tails are ovipositors - they bore into trees and stumps to lay eggs. Icheneumons? I think it's something like that. I'm not sure what the common name is, maybe another list member does. -Roxy in Ohio. --- Matthew TaylorSubject: Re: what is it?wrote: > > I found this insect hanging from my house this hot August afternoon. > I do > not know what it is, but thought it might be a dragonfly. I have not > found > it on any of the sites I have visited. Can anyone identify the > critter in > the attached photos? I live in Littleton Colorado, the temperature > is about > 90 F, RH around 20%. Outside of moving "antennea" it has been > stationary > for over an hour on the brick. The brick is standard height 2.25 " > with > 0.50 " mortar joints. > > Thanks, > > Matthew L. Taylor > Littleton, CO 80120 > > > A __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Low on Ink? Get 80% off inkjet cartridges & Free Shipping at 77Colors.com. We have your brand: HP, Epson, Lexmark, Canon, Compaq and more! http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5981 http://us.click.yahoo.com/DmnqpB/IyhGAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
That looks like some kind of hymenopteran (wasps). We have those here. The tails are ovipositors - they bore into trees and stumps to lay eggs. Icheneumons? I think it's something like that. I'm not sure what the common name is, maybe another list member does. -Roxy in Ohio. --- Matthew TaylorSubject: what is it?wrote: > > I found this insect hanging from my house this hot August afternoon. > I do > not know what it is, but thought it might be a dragonfly. I have not > found > it on any of the sites I have visited. Can anyone identify the > critter in > the attached photos? I live in Littleton Colorado, the temperature > is about > 90 F, RH around 20%. Outside of moving "antennea" it has been > stationary > for over an hour on the brick. The brick is standard height 2.25 " > with > 0.50 " mortar joints. > > Thanks, > > Matthew L. Taylor > Littleton, CO 80120 > > > A __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
I found this insect hanging from my house this hot August afternoon. I do not know what it is, but thought it might be a dragonfly. I have not found it on any of the sites I have visited. Can anyone identify the critter in the attached photos? I live in Littleton Colorado, the temperature is about 90 F, RH around 20%. Outside of moving "antennea" it has been stationary for over an hour on the brick. The brick is standard height 2.25 " with 0.50 " mortar joints. Thanks, Matthew L. Taylor Littleton, CO 80120 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: South Texas Odonates
Fellow Ode Oglers, On Wednesday (08/06/03) during a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Jim Sinclair and I stopped by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department's Coastal Fishery Field Station in Brownsville (Cameron County) and in 35 minutes we had seen 16 species of odonates. Besides the nice diversity, the other highlights were finding a Caribbean Yellowface (actually a mated pair) and a Halloween Pennant (which is a little south for this species). The only place I had seen the Caribbean Yellowface prior to that had been at Anzalduas County Park which is well west of this location. Below is a complete list odonates observed. 1.. Rambur's Forktail 3 2.. Caribbean Yellowface 2 (mating pair) 3.. Common Green Darner 1 4.. Red-tailed Pennant 16 5.. Four-spotted Pennant 13 6.. Halloween Pennant 1 7.. Pin-tailed Pondhawk 3 8.. Eastern Pondhawk 26 9.. Needham's Skimmer 2 10.. Marl Pennant 2 11.. Thornbush Dasher 2 12.. Roseate Skimmer 6 13.. Blue Dasher 18 14.. Eastern Amberwing 6 15.. Black Saddlebags 2 16.. Red Saddlebags 4 Optimistic Ode Ogling, Tom Langschied Kingsville, TXSubject: Biological control
Hi, Ohio has instituted a campaign called "Fight the Bite" against mosquitoes. Is there any way to promote dragonfly and other beneficial animal predation of mosquitoes instead of spraying for them and instead killing everything? Thanks, Roxy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Toner for Your Printer or Fax at LaserTonerSuperstore.com-Save 55%! We have your brand: HP, IBM, Canon, Xerox, Apple and many more for less! http://www.LaserTonerSuperstore.com http://us.click.yahoo.com/YmQqWC/qicGAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: I'm new
Hi all I'm new this is my first year I just built a small pond in my back yard it is attracting dragonflies and I think they are fascinating and want to learn more about them like what they eat and how they breed and what I can do to keep them coming around thanks in advance for all your help Dorathy, Oz ,sucks!!! took shoes find your own way home see ya,, Taz --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design softwareSubject: Re: sorry
Meant to send a post to Tom in So. Texas but forgot this list replies to group. So my message would have made less sense than normal ......... apologies, Matt Heindel San Antonio TXSubject: Re: June Dragonfly Count - South Texas
Neat list! Let me know about those Orange-bellied Skimmers. Last weekend I went out to Pedernales Falls and was happy to find a male Comet Darner (did not know they were that far west, but my understanding of status is poor). Photographed a Bronzed River Cruiser; the cruiser I usually see is Illinois (at Palmetto, for example). Fun stuff. Wish I were around more as I am on the road a lot the next 8 weeks. Will try to find one I cna head south and play! Best, mattSubject: June Dragonfly Count - South Texas
Fellow Ode Oglers, This past Sunday (06/22/03), I along with two other individuals conducted a dragonfly count in the Kingsville (Kleberg Co., Texas) area. This count was set up similar to the Christmas Bird Count and 4th of July Butterfly Count. As such, the count was confined to a 7.5 mi. radius circle centered over the SW side of Kingsville, Texas. A total of 9.75 hours were dedicated to counting and searching for odonates. A total of twenty-two species were definitely identified with the possible addition of one other species. Highlights were the Blue-faced Darners (8), Needham's Skimmers (5) and possible Orange-bellied Skimmers (3). We were also surprised at how few Common Green Darners were found. Unfortunately, a place we didn't check given lack of time was checked today by me and found to contain both Powdered Dancer and Blue-ringed Dancer. This is a count that I hope to do on an annual basis. If anyone would like to know more about how the count was set up, please feel free in emailing me. The results are listed further below. Optimistic Ode Ogling, Tom Langschied Kingsville, TX June (Summer Solstice) Dragonfly Count Odonates seen on 06/22/03 in Kingsville, TX (Kleberg County) 1. Familiar Bluet (Enallagma civile) 17 2. Fragile Forktail (Ischnura posita) 2 3. Rambur's Forktail (Ischnura ramburii) 63 4. Common Green Darner (Anax junius) 1 5. Blue-faced Darner (Coryphaeschna adnexa) 8 6. Red-tailed Pennant (Brachymesia furcata) 85 7. Four-spotted Pennant (Brachymesia gravida) 1841 8. Halloween Pennant (Celithemis eponina) 24 9. Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrescens) 1 10. Pin-tailed Pondhawk (Erythemis plebja) 2 11. Eastern Pondhawk (Erythemis simplicicollis) 177 12. Great Pondhawk (Erythemis vesiculosa) 3 13. Seaside Dragonlet (Erythrodiplax berenice) 2 14. Needham's Skimmer (Libellula needhami) 5 15. Marl Pennant (Macrodiplax balteata) 45 16. Hyacinth Glider (Miathyria marcella) 163 17. Thornbush Dasher (Micrathynia hagenii) 10 18. Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea) 68 19. Orange-bellied Skimmer (Orthemis discolor) 3 (unconfirmed - photos taken) 20. Blue Dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) 63 21. Eastern Amberwing (Perithemis tenera) 10 22. Black Saddlebags (Tramea lacerata) 12 23. Red Saddlebags (Tramea onusta) 60Subject: Offer from Pakistan
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Fellow Ode Oglers, Today, while searching a small park in western Nueces County, TX (west of Corpus Christi) for dragonflies, several Slough Amberwings (Perithemis domitia) were found. This tropical species according to most references indicate that it is a rather unusual find close to the Rio Grande (Hildago Co.) River, so this seems to be a rather significant jump. The creek that flows (non-flowing now) through there is the Aqua Dulce Creek, just south of the Nueces River. In the morning, I first found a male perched on a stick, it soon flew to join a female who proceeded to lay eggs in the immediate area. On a late afternoon trip there with Jim Sinclair, we saw at least four and possibly five total. They were all found in a small shaded area of water left in the creek bed. Other odonates seen there include: Common Green Darner 1 Prince Baskettail 3 Eastern Pondhawk 2 Thornbush Dasher 1 Blue Dasher 3 Red Saddlebags 1 Optimistic Ode Ogling, Tom Langschied Kingsville, TXSubject: Fwd: Notes on the Amethyst Dancer
--- Robert LarsenSubject: Re: re: Primitive Petaluridaewrote: > > Here are some observations on the Amethyst > Dancer > (Argia pallens)in the Central Pecos Valley of New > Mexico. Westfall and May in their book (Dragonflies > of North America) note that nothing is known of this > species behavior. Three sites have been located > here > in Chaves County, New Mexico. One site is along the > outflow from Lea Lake at Bottomless Lakes State > Park. > A second site is at Sago Springs on the Bitter Lake > National Wildlife Refuge. The third site is located > along the west slough, Unit 6, on the Bitter Lake > Refuge just above a site called the "Beaver Dam". > > The flight season in New Mexico is from March > 3rd > (Beaver Dam) to September 16th (Sago Springs). All > three sites are on spring fed runs located at the > base > of the glacial aluvial Garden Park Deposit on the > gypsum Lakewood Deposit on streams fed by springs at > an elevation of 3,500 ft. The primary habitat areas > are pools formed along the spring fed streams and > overflow from the big gypsum sink at Lea Lake. The > pools are generally 4-5 ft. deep and all contain > mats > of Sago Pondweed (Potamogeton pectinatus). The > pools > bottoms all have white gypsum sand up into the > shallows of the pools. > > The larval habitat is primarily located in the > floating Sago Pondweed mats with very few larva > venturing out onto the white sand. Most of the > larva > have been found in these mats looking very much like > (Argia fumipennis), but showing a flat anterior > prementum. Larva have also been found in brown wind > blown leaves collected in swirls at the bottom of > the > pools. Food may consist of small rare amphipods, > snails, and planaria found at these sites. The > predators in the larval habitat are the Mexican > Tetra > (Astyanax mexicanus) and Pecos Pupfish (Cyprinodon > pecosensis) which are found at all three sites. > > Emergence takes place just above water to about > 5 > inches above water on Narrow-leaved Cattails (Typha > agustifolia)or dead weeds tangled in the Sago > Pondweed > mats. Several were noted emerging just on the cut > bank > of the pool. The largest emergence appeared to take > place in the morning hours up to 11:00 A.M. > > The imagos do not travel far from the pools > remaining within about 5 feet of the pools or often > observed sitting on white gypsum sand or rocks at > the > side of the pools. Copulation takes place low in > Salt > Cedar (Tamarax) or Cattail stems less than a foot > above water. There appears to be a resting period > after copulation with the male and female in tandem > just sitting flat on the gypsum sand at the side of > the pools. > > Oviposition is generally in tandem with the > male > in the sentinel position. Oviposition is endophytic > and most always into the stems of floating Sago > Pondweed mats with one tandem pairs noted > ovipositing > into the base of Cattails at the water line. Henry > Curry, British Dragonfly Society, noted one lone > female Amethyst Dancer ovipositing into Sago > Pondweed > at the Lea Lake site, but generally all oviposition > is > in tandem with the male in the sentinel position. > Predation on the imagos appears to be intense with > the > Plains Leopard Frog (Rana blairi), Northern Cricket > Frog (Acris crepitans blanchardi), and Arid Land > Ribbon Snake (Thamnophis proximus diabolicus) noted > at > all three Chaves County sites. Henry Curry had > noted > the Ribbon Snake and Leopard Frog on the floating > Sago > Pondweed mats at both Sago Springs and the Lea Lake > ovipositation sites on the 3rd and 4th of June. The > Ribbon Snake has been observed taking damselflies > and > teneral dragonflies at the Lea Lake site. The > Cricket > Frog predation on damselflies has been well known > since Garmen's observations in the 1930s reported by > Walker. The Amethyst Dancer does not seem to be > bothered by extreme temperatures are reproductively > active at temperatures ranging from 104 degrees to > 108 > degrees (F.) at Lea Lake. The Amethyst Dancer shows > white pruinosity on the base of the thorax and > abdomen, which may protect it when resting on the > hot > white gypsum sand and rocks about the pools on > particularly hot days. > > > Robert R. Larsen > 906 E. 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Michael, As Carol says, this version is attributed to Eden Phillpotts, but he must have been (mis)quoting Bertrand Russell: "The world is full of magical things patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper. " http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/q110229.html Phillpotts other sayings really don't measure up; http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/q101695.html Russell has some wonderful quotes. I hadn't seen this web site before. "The universe may have a purpose, but nothing we know suggests that, if so, this purpose has any similarity to ours." (Sorry to carry on off topic.) Carolyn King Toronto Michael Suttkus wrote: > alento AT aol.com wrote: > > > > "The universe is full of amazing things, patiently waiting for > > our wits to grow sharper" > > > > I'm not sure from whom I am stealing this quote; any > > suggestions would be appreciated. > > I don't know who said it, but I'm adding it to my collection. > > ===== > "ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" > - Charles Darwin > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > http://calendar.yahoo.com > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com > > Visit these important Web Sites: > > North American Dragonfly Migration Project > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html > > California Dragonflies and Damselflies > http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: re: Primitive Petaluridae
alento AT aol.com wrote: > > "The universe is full of amazing things, patiently waiting for > our wits to grow sharper" > > I'm not sure from whom I am stealing this quote; any > suggestions would be appreciated. I don't know who said it, but I'm adding it to my collection. ===== "ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" - Charles Darwin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Re: re: Primitive Petaluridae
Eden Phillpotts (d. 1960): "The universe is full of amazing things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper" Carol Cullar, Executive Director Rio Bravo Nature Center Foundation, Inc. Offices: RR 2 4915 Columbine Curve Eagle Pass TX 78852-9605 ph: 1.830.773.1836 http://www.riobravonaturecenter.org naturecenter AT wcsonline.netSubject: Re: re: Primitive Petaluridae
"The universe is full of amazing things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper" I'm not sure from whom I am stealing this quote; any suggestions would be appreciated.Subject: re: Primitive Petaluridae
Subject: Re: Primitive Petaluridaewrote: > > Hi Darner Group: > > Re: The oldest living dragonfly family. I am not too > ignorant of the phylogeny of Anisoptera in relation to the > geological record in making the statement that Gomphidae are > the oldest family of living dragonflies (Anisoptera). I hope I didn't imply that you were ignorant. Given my state of knowledge, I was quite certain that I was ignorant. I did check a find at least one book which stated that the Petaltails were the oldest living family before posting, but it was hardly a definitive text. I just wanted a point of confusion cleared up. > Yes, the Petaluridae are generally considered the most > primitive of the Anisoptera. However, one should not confuse > "primitive" as in morphology and wing venation with this > families appearance in the geological record. In my work on evo/cre forums, I've come to regard the term "primitive", as applied to whole organisms, to be of rather limited use anyway. Consider the Incirrate vs. the Cirrate octopus. The Cirrate are considered "more primitive" because they have features lost in the more well known octopus: mantle fins, internal shell remnants, etc. The Incirrate are considered more advanced for lacking those things. However, the Incirrate have more primitive suckers, while the Cirrate have fingers, a feature not found in the ancestral species, and so derived and "advanced". A more general look at most groups reveals a mosaic of "primitive" and "advanced" traits, in my admittedly limited experience. > I had used R.J. Tillyard's phylogenetic diagram of the > Odonata (page 319, Fig 105) from his classic Odonata and > paleontological work (The Biology of Dragonflies). I wish I had it. > In his phylogenetic diagram Tillyard shows the family > Gomphidae appeared in the fossil record during late Triassic > Period. The family Petaluridae (Petalurinae) appear later in > the geological record during the Liassic Period as an offshoot > of the extinct Gomphid line, but retaining the most primitive > dragonfly morphology (large primitive anal appendages and wing > venation). I would *really* appreciate it if you could summarize that diagram. > Anyway, the observation of "living fossil" fish > (Lepisoseidae) feeding on "living fossil" dragonflies > (Gomphidae) was the interesting thing to me. And, perhaps, > pointing to some primordial association dating back to the > early Mesozoic Era. It was of interest to me as well, thank you for sharing. I had a similar experience when I realized I was watching some of the most "primitive" flowering plants (Pawpaws) being polinated by some of the most primitive insect polinators (a group of beetles), in a relationship unchanged, probably since the Cretaceous. The world is full of these wonderful things when you know what you're seeing. ===== "ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" - Charles Darwin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Thanks Robert, Now I'll be better able to answer questions I often get at my programs. Kathy roblrsn AT yahoo.com wrote: > > Hi Darner Group: > > Re: The oldest living dragonfly family. I am not too ignorant of the phylogeny of Anisoptera in relation to the geological record in making the statement that Gomphidae are the oldest family of living dragonflies (Anisoptera). Yes, the Petaluridae are generally considered the most primitive of the Anisoptera. However, one should not confuse "primitive" as in morphology and wing venation with this families appearance in the geological record. > > I had used R.J. Tillyard's phylogenetic diagram of the Odonata (page 319, Fig 105) from his classic Odonata and paleontological work (The Biology of Dragonflies). In his phylogenetic diagram Tillyard shows the family Gomphidae appeared in the fossil record during late Triassic Period. The family Petaluridae (Petalurinae) appear later in the geological record during the Liassic Period as an offshoot of the extinct Gomphid line, but retaining the most primitive dragonfly morphology (large primitive anal appendages and wing venation). > > Anyway, the observation of "living fossil" fish (Lepisoseidae) feeding on "living fossil" dragonflies (Gomphidae) was the interesting thing to me. And, perhaps, pointing to some primordial association dating back to the early Mesozoic Era. > > Robert R. Larsen > 906 E. Orange St. > Roswell, New Mexico, USA 88201-7440 > > Phone: (505) 623-5548 > Mobile e-mail: roblrsn AT pocketmail.com > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Getting Dragonflys
I live in Northeast Pennsylvania and when we first moved here about 20 years ago, I couldn't stand being outside during the summer because of the biting black flies or gnats. Then several years ago I noticed an increase in the number of Dragonflies. For the past few years we have had about two bad weeks of black flies, then the Dragonflies come out and the summer is saved. This year has been cold and rainy and the black flies have been out in droves but I have yet to see a Dragonfly. Are they just late because of the cold and rain? Will they return or come out when it gets warmer? Is there any way to buy Dragonflies (like you could buy ladybugs or praying mantis)? I would love to increase the population in my area. We live in the country with streams and ponds and lots of woods. Please let me know if buying them is a possibility. You can e-mail me at Forwards AT ptd.net Thank you for your help. Sue ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Primitive Petaluridae
Hi Darner Group:
Re: The oldest living dragonfly family. I am not too ignorant of the phylogeny
of Anisoptera in relation to the geological record in making the statement that
Gomphidae are the oldest family of living dragonflies (Anisoptera). Yes, the
Petaluridae are generally considered the most primitive of the Anisoptera.
However, one should not confuse "primitive" as in morphology and wing venation
with this families appearance in the geological record.
I had used R.J. Tillyard's phylogenetic diagram of the Odonata (page 319, Fig
105) from his classic Odonata and paleontological work (The Biology of
Dragonflies). In his phylogenetic diagram Tillyard shows the family Gomphidae
appeared in the fossil record during late Triassic Period. The family
Petaluridae (Petalurinae) appear later in the geological record during the
Liassic Period as an offshoot of the extinct Gomphid line, but retaining the
most primitive dragonfly morphology (large primitive anal appendages and wing
venation).
Anyway, the observation of "living fossil" fish (Lepisoseidae) feeding on
"living fossil" dragonflies (Gomphidae) was the interesting thing to me. And,
perhaps, pointing to some primordial association dating back to the early
Mesozoic Era.
Robert R. Larsen
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Roswell, New Mexico, USA 88201-7440
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Subject: re: Living fossil predation on GomphidsSubject: Re: Living fossil predation on Gomphidswrote: > > What is most interesting in the observation is that both > families, the Gomphidae and the fish Lepisosteidae, are > considered living fossils. The Lepisosteidae date back to the > Dovanion Period of the Palaeozoic Era some 350 million years > ago. The Gomphidae, according to Silsby and Tillyard, date > back to the late Triassic and were well established as modern > dragonflies during the Jurassic Period of the Mesozoic Era > some 240 million years ago. The Gomphidae being the oldest > family of living Anisoptera splitting off from the family of > giant dragonflies Meganeuridae during the Carboniferous Period > of the Palaeozoic Era over 300 million years ago. Top this off > with American Rubyspots (Hetaerina americana) perched on > horsetails (family Equisetacae), also a living fossil, and one > gets the whole Mesozoic experience on the Pecos. I thought that the Petalurids were the oldest living family. Is there some online resource on fossil dragonflies, or fossil arthropods (esp. terrestrial) in general? ===== "ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" - Charles Darwin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
This is really cool. Thanks so much for posting about it. WISH you were coming to the DSA meeting! Kathy roblrsn AT yahoo.com wrote: > > John Abbott and the entomology students from the University of Texas at Austin made a visit to the Bitterlake National Wildlife Refuge here in southeastern New Mexico on May 28th through May 31st. I tagged along with them on a visit to the Pecos River on the afternoon of May 29th where several curious observations were made including three males of Argia moesta linked in line to a single female ovipositing into phagmites. > > Upon approachung a shallow clear sandy bottomed section of the Pecos River one of the UT student curators and I spotted a longnose gar (Lepisosteus osseus) from the bank of the river. Following this fish slowly down river I noted the fish scuffing up the sandy river bottom with it's very long sharp toothed snout, then snapping up gomphid larva as they scurried away from their hiding places in the sand. The larva showed thick modified legs and were likely sanddragons (Progomphus) and most likely the larva of the gray sanddragon (Progomphus borealis) or common sanddragon (Progomphus obscurus). Both species have been found in this section of the Pecos River forming the eastern boundry of the refuge farm. > > What is most interesting in the observation is that both families, the Gomphidae and the fish Lepisosteidae, are considered living fossils. The Lepisosteidae date back to the Dovanion Period of the Palaeozoic Era some 350 million years ago. The Gomphidae, according to Silsby and Tillyard, date back to the late Triassic and were well established as modern dragonflies during the Jurassic Period of the Mesozoic Era some 240 million years ago. The Gomphidae being the oldest family of living Anisoptera splitting off from the family of giant dragonflies Meganeuridae during the Carboniferous Period of the Palaeozoic Era over 300 million years ago. Top this off with American Rubyspots (Hetaerina americana) perched on horsetails (family Equisetacae), also a living fossil, and one gets the whole Mesozoic experience on the Pecos. > > Robert R. Larsen > 906 E. Orange St. > Roswell, New Mexico, USA 88201-7440 > > Phone: (505) 623-5548 > Mobile e-mail: roblrsn AT pocketmail.com > > -------------------- > > ------------------------------ > Local access to PocketMail mobile > e-mail now available in Europe, North > America & Australia http://www.pocketmail.com > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com > > Visit these important Web Sites: > > North American Dragonfly Migration Project > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html > > California Dragonflies and Damselflies > http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ Biggs Family Nesting Site http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-584-7668 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Living fossil predation on Gomphids
John Abbott and the entomology students from the University of Texas at Austin made a visit to the Bitterlake National Wildlife Refuge here in southeastern New Mexico on May 28th through May 31st. I tagged along with them on a visit to the Pecos River on the afternoon of May 29th where several curious observations were made including three males of Argia moesta linked in line to a single female ovipositing into phagmites. Upon approachung a shallow clear sandy bottomed section of the Pecos River one of the UT student curators and I spotted a longnose gar (Lepisosteus osseus) from the bank of the river. Following this fish slowly down river I noted the fish scuffing up the sandy river bottom with it's very long sharp toothed snout, then snapping up gomphid larva as they scurried away from their hiding places in the sand. The larva showed thick modified legs and were likely sanddragons (Progomphus) and most likely the larva of the gray sanddragon (Progomphus borealis) or common sanddragon (Progomphus obscurus). Both species have been found in this section of the Pecos River forming the eastern boundry of the refuge farm. What is most interesting in the observation is that both families, the Gomphidae and the fish Lepisosteidae, are considered living fossils. The Lepisosteidae date back to the Dovanion Period of the Palaeozoic Era some 350 million years ago. The Gomphidae, according to Silsby and Tillyard, date back to the late Triassic and were well established as modern dragonflies during the Jurassic Period of the Mesozoic Era some 240 million years ago. The Gomphidae being the oldest family of living Anisoptera splitting off from the family of giant dragonflies Meganeuridae during the Carboniferous Period of the Palaeozoic Era over 300 million years ago. Top this off with American Rubyspots (Hetaerina americana) perched on horsetails (family Equisetacae), also a living fossil, and one gets the whole Mesozoic experience on the Pecos. Robert R. Larsen 906 E. Orange St. Roswell, New Mexico, USA 88201-7440 Phone: (505) 623-5548 Mobile e-mail: roblrsn AT pocketmail.com -------------------- ------------------------------ Local access to PocketMail mobile e-mail now available in Europe, North America & Australia http://www.pocketmail.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CalOdes-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Living fossil predation on Gomphids
John Abbott and the entomology students from the University of Texas at Austin made a visit to the Bitterlake National Wildlife Refuge here in southeastern New Mexico on May 28th through May 31st. I tagged along with them on a visit to the Pecos River on the afternoon of May 29th where several curious observations were made including three males of Argia moesta linked in line to a single female ovipositing into phagmites. Upon approachung a shallow clear sandy bottomed section of the Pecos River one of the UT student curators and I spotted a longnose gar (Lepisosteus osseus) from the bank of the river. Following this fish slowly down river I noted the fish scuffing up the sandy river bottom with it's very long sharp toothed snout, then snapping up gomphid larva as they scurried away from their hiding places in the sand. The larva showed thick modified legs and were likely sanddragons (Progomphus) and most likely the larva of the gray sanddragon (Progomphus borealis) or common sanddragon (Progomphus obscurus). Both species have been found in this section of the Pecos River forming the eastern boundry of the refuge farm. What is most interesting in the observation is that both families, the Gomphidae and the fish Lepisosteidae, are considered living fossils. The Lepisosteidae date back to the Dovanion Period of the Palaeozoic Era some 350 million years ago. The Gomphidae, according to Silsby and Tillyard, date back to the late Triassic and were well established as modern dragonflies during the Jurassic Period of the Mesozoic Era some 240 million years ago. The Gomphidae being the oldest family of living Anisoptera splitting off from the family of giant dragonflies Meganeuridae during the Carboniferous Period of the Palaeozoic Era over 300 million years ago. Top this off with American Rubyspots (Hetaerina americana) perched on horsetails (family Equisetacae), also a living fossil, and one gets the whole Mesozoic experience on the Pecos. Robert R. Larsen 906 E. Orange St. Roswell, New Mexico, USA 88201-7440 Phone: (505) 623-5548 Mobile e-mail: roblrsn AT pocketmail.com -------------------- ------------------------------ Local access to PocketMail mobile e-mail now available in Europe, North America & Australia http://www.pocketmail.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Hetaerina metallic color ratios
Anerican Rubyspots (Hetaerina Americana) Here are some informal notes on females of Hetaerina americana collected in New Mexico between 1998 and 2003 showing ratios of metallic green and redish bronze coloration on the epicranium and thorax of the females: Hetaerina americana, Sandoval County, NM Jemez River, 7,000 ft. (2133m), Jemez Mountains: Red bronze metallic females: 100% abdomen 3-5 mm shorter than wings Peterostigmas: 55% ----------------- Hetaerina americana, Chaves County, NM Pecos River, 3,500 ft. (1066m), Pecos Valley: Red bronze metallic females: 66.67% abdomen 3-5 mm shorter than wings Pterostigmas: 100% Green metallic females: 33.33% wings 3-5 mm longer than abdomen Pterostigmas: 100% --------------- Hetaerina americana, Guadalupe County, NM El Rito Creek, 4,600 ft. (1402m), Pecos Valley Red bronze metallic females: 78% abdomen 3-5 mm shorter than wings pterostigmas: 100% Green metallic females: 22% wings 3-5 mm longer than abdomen Petrostigmas: 100% ------------ Hetaerina americana, Lincoln County, NM Rio Bonito, 6,600 ft. (2011m), Sacramento Mountains: Red bronze metallic females: 100% abdomen 3-5 mm shorter than wings Peterostigmas: 100% ------------- Notes: The peterostigmas, in Sandoval and Luna Counties of New Mexico are replaced by thickened brace veins in those specimens without the stigmas. Males from Sandoval County show a complete gradation between pterostigmas and thickened brace veins showing no pterostigmas. All specimens in the Pecos River drainage of eastern New Mexico show pterostigmas on the wings. Those found in the Rio Grande drainage of western New Mexico, both males and females, often lack the pterostigmas in the wings. This amounts to about 78% of the males in the Central Rio Grande Valley. All very interesting, it would be nice to compare ratios from other regions in North America. Robert R. Larsen 906 E. Orange St. Roswell, New Mexico, USA 88201-7440 Phone: (505) 623-5548 Mobile e-mail: roblrsn AT pocketmail.com Regular e-mail: roblrsn AT yahoo.com -------------------- ------------------------------ This mobile message sent using PocketMail. Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Ribbon Snake and Odonata
I made a visit to Bottomless Lakes State Park on Saturday May 18th for the
parks Grand Re-Opening. I was fortunate enough to observe the Arid land ribbon
snake (Thamnophis proximus diabolicus) feeding on damselflies in the shallows
of Lea Lake near the overflow. The snake resting very still in aquatic
vegetation would snap up individual and tandem damselflies in wheel position
(Ischnura barberi, Enallagma praevarum, and Argia alberta) when they came near
or alighted on vegetation. This adds to the list of Odonata species I have
observed this snake taking.
The Arid land ribbon snake is found at Sago Springs, among other sites, on the
Bitter Lake National Wildlife Refuge and was photographed there by Bob
Behrstock in 2000. It has been observed feeding on freshly emerged tenerals of
the Comanche Skimmer (Libellula comanche), Blanched Skimmer (Libellula
composita), and the Variegated Meadowhawk (Sympetrum orruptum) as Sago Springs.
The snake appears to inhabit small desert streams, seep spring runs, sinks,
and overflow runs from sink holes as far north as El Rito Creek and Los Tanos
Creek in Guadalupe County. Odonates may be a large part of the snakes diet in
the Central Pecos Valley.
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Subject: Texas LRGV Odonate Experience!Fellow Ode Oglers,
This past weekend I was fortunate to get to participate in the Valley Nature
Center's Dragonfly Days in Weslaco, TX. It was a great ode oglers experience!
There were both seminars and two field trips. The seminar on "The Damselflies
of the Lower Rio Grande Valley" by Terry Fuller was particularly informative
along with Sid Dunkle's evening presentation. Field trip leaders were Joshua
Rose and Sid Dunkle. The Saturday field trip visited Llano Grande area in
Weslaco and the World Birding Center in Edinburg. The Edinburg site was
noteworthy with a pond that was specifically created to attract dragonflies and
it certainly did! I highly recommend stopping by this location if you are in
the Rio Grande Valley. On Sunday, the field trip visited Anzulduas County Park
and Santa Ana National Wildlife Refuge, both of which were quite good but the
county park provided the best diversity and great number of gomphids. Some
unfortunate misses included Carribean Yellowface and Filigree Skimmer.
For anyone interested in learning more about dragonflies and damselflies in
Texas should watch for this next year, it is definitely worth it!
Optimisitic Optical Ode Ogling,
Tom Langschied
Kingsville,TX
P.S.
Below is the list of odonates I had seen along with date and location.
1 : Tour on 05/17/03 2 : Tour on 05/18/03
A : Anzulduas County Park E : World Birding Center-Edinburg S : Santa Ana NWR
V : Valley Nature Center-Weslaco W : Llano Grande State Park-Weslaco
1.. Broad-striped Forceptail (Aphylla augustifolia) 2A
2.. Narrow-striped Forceptail (A. protracta) 2A
3.. Five-striped Leaftail (Phyllogomphoides) 2A
4.. Russet-tipped Clubtail (Stylurus plagiatus) 2A
5.. Prince Baskettail (Epitheca princeps) 2A
6.. Red-tailed Pennant (Brachymesia furcata) 1W, 2A
7.. Four-spotted Pennant (B. gravida) 1E
8.. Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrscens) 2A
9.. Pin-tailed Pondhawk (Erythemis plebja) 1E, 2S
10.. Eastern Pondhawk (E. simplicicollis) 1W, 2A, 2S
11.. Great Pondhawk (E. vesiculosa) 1E, 2S
12.. Needham's Skimmer (Libellula needhami) 2A
13.. Marl Pennant (Macrodiplax balteata) 2A
14.. Hyacinth Glider (Miathyria marcella) 1W
15.. Thornbush Dasher (Micrathryia hagenii) 1E
16.. Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea) 1W,1E,2S
17.. Blue Dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) 1W, 2A, 2S
18.. Slough Amberwing (Perithemis domitia) 1V
19.. Eastern Amberwing (P. tenera) 1W, 1E, 2A
20.. Red Saddlebags (Tramea onusta) 1W,1E,2A
21.. American Rubyspot (Hetaerina americana) 2A
22.. Smoky Rubyspot (H. titia) 2A
23.. Chalky Spreadwing (Lestes sigma) 2S
24.. Powdered Dancer (Argia moesta) 2A
25.. Blue-ringed Dancer (A. sedula) 2A
26.. Dusky Dancer (A. translata) 2A
27.. Familiar Bluet (Enallagama civile) 1W,1E
28.. Rambur's Forktail (Ischnura ramburii) 1W, 1E, 2A
29.. Desert Firetail (Telebasis salva) V
Subject: Re: Need IDOn 5/9/03 16:23, "May"Subject: Need IDwrote: > I've just uploaded a photo to the group website for ID. > > I live in Bayou George, FL, (panhandle) and found this lovely in a > ditch, > out of the wind. Looks like an Atlantic Bluet. James -- James Wilson Columbia, SC 29209 Personal Home Page: http://home.sc.rr.com/toadshade/www/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees & Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
I've just uploaded a photo to the group website for ID. I live in Bayou George, FL, (panhandle) and found this lovely in a ditch, out of the wind. May Lenzer http://www.geocities.com/ovaeasy5944/mayspage ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees & Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: change of address
Please change my e-mail address to mndfly AT cpinternet.com Thanks. Kurt Mead ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees & Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: New Mexico Darners
AN INFORMAL WORKING LIST OF NEW MEXICO ANISOPTERA (DRAGONFLIES) New Mexico Aeshnidae (Darners) [Updated 04-20-03 - R. Larsen] Species showing counties: Anax junius: CA CH DA ED GR RA SJ SM SI SO GU DB CU RO LI OT LE QU UN BE. Primary populations stratification: Lower Sonoran Life Zone Anax walsinghami: CH ED OT SI SO. Upper Sonoran Life Zone Oplonaeschna armata: CA SM SO BE GR OT SI LI SA. Canadian Life Zone Aeshna Californica: GR. Upper Sonoran Life Zone Aeshna constricta: CH. Upper Sonoran Life Zone Aeshna dugesi: ED GR LI CH OT CA SI. Transition Life Zone Aeshna interrupta interna: RA SA SI SM CH. Canadian Life Zone Aeshna juneca: TA. Hudsonian Life Zone Aeshna multicolor: GR CA CH CO DB DA LE LI MO OT QU BE RA SJ SM SA SF SI SO TA UN GU ED MC VA RO CU LU. Lower Sonoran Life Zone Aeshna palmata: RA TA MC CA CI SM SI. Canadian Life Zone Aeshna persephone: GR LI CA. Canadian Life Zone Aeshna unbrosa occidentale: LI BE SA. Canadian Life Zone Aeshna umbrosa umbrosa: CO ED CH RA OT. Upper Sonoran Life Zone ---------------- NEW MEXICO COUNTY KEY: BE: BERNALILLO MC: MCKINLEY CA: CATRON MO: MORA CH: CHAVES OT: OTERO CI: CIBOLA QU: QUAY CO: COLFAX RA: RIO ARRIBA CU: CURRY RO: ROOSEVELT DA: DONA ANA SA: SANDOVAL DB: DE BACA SF: SANTA FE ED: EDDY SI: SIERRA GR: GRANT SJ: SAN JUAN GU: GUADALUPE SM: SAN MIGUEL HA: HARDING SO: SOCORRO HI: HIDALGO TA: TAOS LA: LOS ALAMOS TO: TORRANCE LE: LEA UN: UNION LI: LINCOLN VA: VALENCIA LU: LUNA ---------- Notes: The distribuion of the Western Shadow Darner (A. u. occidentale) is based on Warrick's two specimens taken above 7,500 ft. on the Mescalero Apache Reservation in the Sacramento Mountains (Lincoln County), and Dustin Huntington's images (www.imunu.com) from Jemez Springs (Sandoval County) and Otero Canyon (Bernalillo County) with both sites above 7,500 ft. in the Sierra Nacimiento and Sandia Mountains. Aeshna multicolor, April 4, 2003, West Slough, Unit 6, Bitter Lake National Wildlife Refuge, Chaves Co., New Mexico (early flight season record for New Mexico is March 11th). Annax junius in numbers ovipositing on Unit 6. same day with an early flight season date of March 3rd in New Mexico. -------------- Robert R. Larsen 906 E. Orange St. Roswell, New Mexico 88201-7440 e-mail: roblrsn AT pocketmail.com ------------------------------ This mobile message sent using PocketMail. Sign up for unlimited e-mail at www.PocketMail.com. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/AG3JAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: NM Flight Season Dates
Here are some new Odonata flight season dates for New Mexico:
Libellula saturata: April 14, 2003 Spring River, Roswell. Known to an elevation
of 9,000 ft. (2,743 meters) in the Sacramento Mountains of New Mexico. C.H.
Kennedy (1917) recorded L. saturata to 10,000 ft. (3048 meters) in the Sierra
Nevada of California.
Lestes congener: May 21, 2002, Unit 5, Bitter Lake NWR to September 16, 2002,
Unit 6, Bitter Lake NWR.
Orthemis ferruginea: April 16, 2003 Spring River, Roswell.
Hetaerina americana: Cate Erbaugh noted H. americana at Rattlesnake Springs
(Carlsbad Caverns National Park, Eddy County) during a training session on
March 9, 2003.
Aeshna multicolor: April 4, 2003 along the west slough, Unit 6, Bitter Lake
NWR.
Anax junius: April 4, 2003 out in numbers ovipositing along the west slough,
Unit 6, Bitter Lake NWR. Gordon may have earlier sightings. Last year on May
19, 2002, during a snow storm, Cate had found a female Anax junius frozen on
the porch of her Grand Lake ranger cabin at an elevation of 10,500 ft. (3,200
Meters) in the Rocky Mountain National Park, Colorado.
Enallagma praevarum: New county record for Eddy County photographed by Dustin
on March 16, 2002 at Rattlesnake Spring (CCNP). I observed praevarum at Oak
Spring (CCNP) on March 15, 2003 and Rattlesale Spring on the 16th. A specimen
was taken by permit from the BLM's Black River Wildlife Natural Area on March
16, 2003 (Eddy County).
Robert R. Larsen
Roswell, New Mexico
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Many reports of Anax junius throughout Wisconsin on Monday the 14th,
including northern counties where some of the sites were still mostly ice
covered. This seems to be quite early for the northern counties. Also
several reports of small reddish skimmers which I assume are Sympetrum
corruptum although no one I know has actually succeeded in catching one yet.
Let the fun begin!
Bob
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From: Elvera Shappirio [mailto:eshap AT umich.edu]
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Subject: [gl_odonata] Anax junius
I saw one Anax junius working its way along the railroad ditch by Barton
Pond April 15, 11:00 AM.
Ellie Shappirio
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Many reports of Anax junius throughout Wisconsin on Monday the 14th,
including northern counties where some of the sites were still mostly ice
covered. This seems to be quite early for the northern counties. Also
several reports of small reddish skimmers which I assume are Sympetrum
corruptum although no one I know has actually succeeded in catching one yet.
Let the fun begin!
Bob
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Subject: [gl_odonata] Anax junius
I saw one Anax junius working its way along the railroad ditch by Barton
Pond April 15, 11:00 AM.
Ellie Shappirio
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With temperatures near 80 F. in southern NY State, I finally saw my first
Common Green Darner/ Anax junius of the year. It was a single male at Twin
Lakes Park, Westchester Co.
- Ed Lam
Eastchester, NY
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Subject: Jokes on me X2Whoops! That was supposed to be a private message to Doug. My apologies to Doug and everyone! Kathy ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get a FREE REFINANCE QUOTE - click here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2CXtTB/ca0FAA/i5gGAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Re: New web updates
Hi Doug, Just getting around to reading my emails and have gone to your site but noticed that you have 2 covers up for Tim's book: http://sdbirds.basiclink.com/dragonfly_book_reviews.htm The one that doesn't look like the one you got is NOT a real cover. I was sent it by mistake by UCPress. You should delete it or show it just as page art (which it is). But this photo doesn't look right: http://sdbirds.basiclink.com/arroyo_bluet.htm The 3rd segment isn't mostly black.... You might show it to Tim. Might be a Northern or Boreal Bluet. BTW: All your unidentified odes appear to be Rambur's Forktails. Sure was nice to see those again this last weekend. But the joke was on me: the male I collected to 'prove' your photos turned out to be a male-colored female!! Kathy Douglas Aguillard wrote: > > Hello everyone, > I've added some new photos taken by Matt Sadowski & Robert Harrington of > Odes taken in San Diego County. > Go to the Picture galleries and look for the Dragonfly section, and then > where you see the "new" logo, click there. > The Birds, Butterflies, and Dragonflies of San Diego County. > http://sdbirds.basiclink.com > > See ya, > Douglas Aguillard > San Diego, CA > doug AT basiclink.com > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com > > Visit these important Web Sites: > > North American Dragonfly Migration Project > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html > > California Dragonflies and Damselflies > http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ Biggs Family Nesting Site http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-584-7668 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get a FREE REFINANCE QUOTE - click here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2CXtTB/ca0FAA/i5gGAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: New web updates
Hello everyone, I've added some new photos taken by Matt Sadowski & Robert Harrington of Odes taken in San Diego County. Go to the Picture galleries and look for the Dragonfly section, and then where you see the "new" logo, click there. The Birds, Butterflies, and Dragonflies of San Diego County. http://sdbirds.basiclink.com See ya, Douglas Aguillard San Diego, CA doug AT basiclink.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CalOdes-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: New web updates
Hello everyone, I've added some new photos taken by Matt Sadowski & Robert Harrington of Odes taken in San Diego County. Go to the Picture galleries and look for the Dragonfly section, and then where you see the "new" logo, click there. The Birds, Butterflies, and Dragonflies of San Diego County. http://sdbirds.basiclink.com See ya, Douglas Aguillard San Diego, CA doug AT basiclink.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/BCYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: No Subject
Is this list still active? I only remember getting a couple of messages
last year that were not also on odonata-l, NEodes, or gl_odonata
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My first Anax junius of the spring was seen on March 28 at Ojibway Park in
Windsor, ON, only one day off my record early date (03/27/1998). The day
was very warm with brisk south winds. Other insects noted that day included
several Mourning Cloak and Eastern Comma butterflies.
Paul Pratt
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Subject: Re: Great Lakes Odonata Meeting invitationHi. I would be interested in the North Woods book. Would it be helpful for me in the Adirondack Mountains of New York State. Thanks!--- Kurt MeadSubject: Re: New CA ID guidewrote: > Greetings All, > > Although it's been -25'F here this last week, I am > getting excited about this summer's Great Lakes > Odonata Meeting. I am hosting it near the North > Shore of Lake Superior in Minnesota. This is a > casual, welcoming and inclusive group and everyone > is welcome. Check out the information contained in > the attachment and feel free to contact me with any > questions you may have. > > On another note, my regional field guide, > "Dragonflies of the North Woods" will be available > in late spring. It covers northern Minnesota, > northern Wisconsin, the UP and the northern parts of > the Lower Penninsula of Michigan and most of > Ontario. It includes over 100 species of "boreal" > dragonflies with over 200 color photos (by Sid > Dinkle, Blair Nikula, myself and others) and > numerous illustrations. I'll send out more details > when the book is available. > > Kurt Mead > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Greetings! I've received an advance copy of Tim Manolis' book, DRAGONFLIES AND DAMSELFLIES OF CALIFORNIA (UCPress) and it is WONDERFUL! Tim did not only the text but also the art for this 304 page book, so each of the 108 species found in CA (and nearby states) is shown in its natural habitat in poses showing the marks needed to make the IDs on males and females, and even on immature males for some species. There are sketches of the appendages for all species where viewing them is crucial to making the ID, and also sketches of stigmas, side stripes, etc. as needed. I've learned so much already by having it. If you're planning on coming to the DSA meeting in CA this June (http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/DSA2003/), this book is a must. And it's a good idea even if you aren't as he goes into detail on their life cycles with a general overview of the dragonfly body plan and life history, as well as information on how to watch and study dragonflies in the field, etc. too. Find out more about it at http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly/timsbook.html. I'm currently offering it for sale there at my website at a special 'pre publication' price of only $12.98. Hope you find odes flying soon in your area. Winter withdrawal hangs on here so far! Kathy Biggs -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ Biggs Family Nesting Site http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-584-7668 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: darners-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Visit these important Web Sites: North American Dragonfly Migration Project http://members.bellatlantic.net/~dbarber/migrant/mig.html California Dragonflies and Damselflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/Subject: Great Lakes Odonata Meeting attachment
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