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8 May Citation of Periommatus severisee Nunberg, Marian, 1952 ["Andreas Herrmann" ] 7 May RE: More free files and re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Aust [Dr Trevor Hawkeswood ] 3 May Re: coleoptera yahoo group - listserver problem ["Jean Michel Maes" ] 27 Apr new site for Insects [muhammad atique ] 25 Apr Re: mixed beetles from N.Korea ["JANET S ALLEN" ] 25 Apr Re: Re: Label of A.Villiers ["tarun kumar pal" ] 24 Apr Re: Label of A.Villiers ["Andreas Herrmann" ] 23 Apr RE: Label of A.Villiers ["Max Barclay" ] 23 Apr RE: Label of A.Villiers ["Max Barclay" ] 23 Apr Re: Label of A.Villiers [Jean-Philippe Legrand ] 23 Apr Re: Label of A.Villiers [Christopher Majka ] 23 Apr Label of A.Villiers ["Andreas Herrmann" ] 22 Apr hi ["Cosmin O. Manci" ] 20 Apr info. [rowena mohagan ] 19 Apr Re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Austr... ["Jean Michel Maes" ] 19 Apr RE: More free files and re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Aust [Dr Trevor Hawkeswood ] 18 Apr Re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Austr... [] 18 Apr Re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Australian beetles... ["Jean Michel Maes" ] 17 Apr Re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Australian beetles... ["James Bergdahl" ] 16 Apr Scentless Spring? Flower Smells Blocked by Pollution ["Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld" ] 13 Apr Re: : Save the Utrecht harbarium ["John Alexander Pulgarin Diaz" ] 13 Apr Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Australian beetles... ["Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld" ] 11 Apr : Save the Utrecht harbarium ["Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld" ] 8 Apr Fruhstorferia from N.Cambodia [Li Jingke ] 07 Apr Re: Help with identification of an imported Bruchid - This is Megabruchidius [Merkl Otto ] 7 Apr Re: Help with identification of an imported Bruchid [Ibrahim ElHawary ] 7 Apr small beetles from Cambodia [Li Jingke ] 7 Apr Re: [coleoptera] Help with identification of an imported Bruchid [äÅÎÉÓ ÷. ðÏÔÁÎÉÎ ] 6 Apr Re: Help with identification of an imported Bruchid ["Andreas Herrmann" ] 6 Apr Re: Help with identification of an imported Bruchid [] 6 Apr Help with identification of an imported Bruchid ["Andreas Herrmann" ] 5 Apr Re: Check out Sensory Systems [Nitu Eugen ] 4 Apr question of Dichotomius [Sergio Rolando ] 2 Apr Check out Sensory Systems [] 2 Apr Fw: Sensory organs in Heteroptera ["A. Ahadiyat" ] 1 Apr Re: ID required [ZUBAIR AHMED ] 30 Mar Re: ID required [Ibrahim ElHawary ] 31 Mar Re: Beetle for ID ["A.R.V. Kumar" ] 31 Mar Re: ID required........... ["A.R.V. Kumar" ] 31 Mar Re: ID required........... ["Sachin Chorge" ] 31 Mar RE: ID required........... [Dr Trevor Hawkeswood ] 31 Mar RE: Beetle for ID [Dr Trevor Hawkeswood ] 30 Mar Re: [coleoptera] river as barriers to dispersal of animals ["James Bergdahl" ] 30 Mar Re: ID required........... [Christopher Majka ] 30 Mar Beetle for ID ["Sachin Chorge" ] 30 Mar ID required........... ["Sachin Chorge" ] 30 Mar RE: [coleoptera] river as barriers to dispersal of animals ["james cornell" ] 29 Mar Re: Help me out ["Sachin Chorge" ] 28 Mar Help me out [JONES ANDREW ] 27 Mar Sagra sp. from Laos [Li Jingke ] 26 Mar Re: Pitfall traps ["James Bergdahl" ] 26 Mar Re: some photos from Peru [Standa Krejcík ] Subject: Citation of Periommatus severisee Nunberg, Marian, 1952 From: "Andreas Herrmann" <herrmann AT coleopterologie.de> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 21:37:55 +0200 Dear all, A friend who has no access to this mailgroup asked me to place his request: Could anybody tell me the citation of the article concerning the description of Periommatus severisee - von Nunberg, Marian, ?1952 (a Platypodidae from Baltic amber)? Of course a copy of the paper would be phantastic, but also the literature reference would help me very much! Thanks a lot in advance for any hint! Andreas Herrmann Bremervoerder Strasse 123 D - 21682 Stade Deutschland (Germany) Tel. and Fax: ++ 49 (0) 721 / 151268497 E-mail: herrmann AT coleopterologie.de Internet: http://www.Dermestidae.com Subject: RE: More free files and re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Aust From: Dr Trevor Hawkeswood <calodema007 AT hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 19:34:57 +1000 Dear Colleagues More free pdf files are now available at www.calodema.com These files include scientific papers, media articles, cartoons and book reviews of my publications. The site is building to be one of the largest for any biologist in the world. Soon I will have travel photos as well as wildlife. The photos will be breathtaking. So bookmark the site and come as often as you can as the site is always changing. There are over 300 pdf files available at the present time. Best regards DrTJHawkewswood www.calodema.com _________________________________________________________________ Search for local singles online AT Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT Subject: Re: coleoptera yahoo group - listserver problem From: "Jean Michel Maes" <jmmaes AT ibw.com.ni> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:07:09 -0500 Hi Richard, The group Coleoptera seems working normally. Perhaps you need to check the status of your yahoo profile. I put a copy at Coleoptera group to check if it works well. Sincerely, Jean-Michel. Dr. Jean-Michel MAES MUSEO ENTOMOLOGICO AP 527 LEON NICARAGUA tel 505-3116586 cel 505-48-11-351 jmmaes AT ibw.com.ni jmmaes AT bio-nica.info jmmaes AT yahoo.com jmmaes AT walla.com afleon AT ibw.com.ni (oficina de la Alianza Francesa) www.bio-nica.info (main page in spanish) http://360.yahoo.com/jmmaes http://www.ibw.com.ni/u/jmmaes (pequeña pagina de contacto) http://espanol.groups.yahoo.com/group/MEL-Info/ (lista de anuncios - puede inscribirse si le parece) www.avesnicaragua.org (aves) http://www.insectariumvirtual.com/termitero/nicaragua/welcome.htm (Insectos) http://www.coleoptera.org/p1760.htm (Lucanidae genera) Save a tree. Do not print this message if not really necessary ----- Original Message ----- From: Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld To: CERAMBYX Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: coleoptera yahoo group - listserver problem Dear colleagues, Last two weeks I am not able to log into coleoptera Yahoo group, the system does not recognise my password, and yahoo help is helpless. I am not able to log even to my yahoo com webmail. Please could you inform me if you receiving any mail from coleoptera? I have feeling that nhcoll-l has a same problem. Keep care and be of good cheer. Regards (name) Vratislav Richard Eugene Maria John Baptist (surname) of Bejsak (Bayshark)-Colloredo-Mansfeld websites: http://www.coleoptera.org. and http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/coleoptera/ University of Sydney The Wentworth Bldg., B 62 NSW 2006 AUSTRALIA phone : +61 414 540 465 email: vratislav AT bigfoot.com ICQ: 13610107 Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find that money can not be eaten.' CREE INDIAN PROPHECY. Keep care and be of good cheer. Regards (name) Vratislav Richard Eugene Maria John Baptist (surname) of Bejsak (Bayshark)-Colloredo-Mansfeld websites: http://www.coleoptera.org. and http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/coleoptera/ University of Sydney The Wentworth Bldg., B 62 NSW 2006 AUSTRALIA phone : +61 414 540 465 email: vratislav AT bigfoot.com ICQ: 13610107 Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find that money can not be eaten.' CREE INDIAN PROPHECY. This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. 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Albert Allen 9235 West Wenatchee Court Boise, Idaho 83709 USA Phone 208 362 1699 Headrush3 AT msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jingke li To: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: [coleoptera] mixed beetles from N.Korea mixed Dung beetles from N.Korea 500exs X0.5$=250$(2 family) mixed lamelicornia 500exs=250$(4 family) mixed Lucanidae 5 species 100male=200$ other Beetles 15 family 1000exs=500$ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. Subject: Re: Re: Label of A.Villiers From: "tarun kumar pal" <tkpal51 AT rediffmail.com> Date: 25 Apr 2008 06:18:34 -0000 Dear Andreas Excellent is your mail message. Tarun   On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 Andreas Herrmann wrote : >Thanks a lot, also to Chris and Max!! >The most useful thing to a coleopterist beneath a microscope and sweeping net is a newsgroup with friendly colleagues! > >Andreas > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jean-Philippe Legrand > To: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: [coleoptera] Label of A.Villiers > > > Dear Andreas > > M'Bao is a locality in the suburbs of Dakar ' about15 km S-E, the rest of the label means "found under the bark of a rotten baobab" ( Adansonia) > Best Wishes > JPHL > > > > > Le 23/04/08 18:39, « Andreas Herrmann » a écrit : > > > > Dear newsgroup, > > could anybody help me reading the attached label written by A.Villiers? > It concerns to a new species which couldn't be published without the regarding collection data. A.Villiers was a specialist of Cerambycidae and worked at that time for the IFAN (Institut Francaise Africe Noire). I assume, that one of the handwritten words means "Dakar". > If you also don't know the location, I would be happy about any hint where I could get the information. > > > Thanks a lot in advance! > > Andreas Herrmann > Germany > > > > > > > Tarun K. Pal, Zoological Survey of India, Kolkata- 700053; Tel: 91-33-4693737 Subject: Re: Label of A.Villiers From: "Andreas Herrmann" <herrmann AT coleopterologie.de> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:44:15 +0200 Thanks a lot, also to Chris and Max!! The most useful thing to a coleopterist beneath a microscope and sweeping net is a newsgroup with friendly colleagues! Andreas ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean-Philippe Legrand To: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [coleoptera] Label of A.Villiers Dear Andreas M'Bao is a locality in the suburbs of Dakar ' about15 km S-E, the rest of the label means "found under the bark of a rotten baobab" ( Adansonia) Best Wishes JPHL Le 23/04/08 18:39, « Andreas Herrmann » a écrit : Dear newsgroup, could anybody help me reading the attached label written by A.Villiers? It concerns to a new species which couldn't be published without the regarding collection data. A.Villiers was a specialist of Cerambycidae and worked at that time for the IFAN (Institut Francaise Africe Noire). I assume, that one of the handwritten words means "Dakar". If you also don't know the location, I would be happy about any hint where I could get the information. Thanks a lot in advance! Andreas Herrmann Germany Subject: RE: Label of A.Villiers From: "Max Barclay" <maxb AT nhm.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:32:53 +0100 Oh, didn't see Jean-Philippe's excellent reply- it takes quite a long time for posts to come up best wishes Max ________________________________ From: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com on behalf of Max Barclay Sent: Wed 23/04/2008 18:45 To: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [coleoptera] Label of A.Villiers I agree about Dakar, but a Frenchman wouldn't write 'Mr.Bao' for a collector (Monsieur is M. not Mr.). A google search of 'Bao' and 'Dakar' reveals M'Bao and Petit M'Bao as place names in the region. The word in between 'Bao' and 'Dakar', I like to imagine it says 'pres' which is the French for 'near', i.e. M'Bao, near Dakar, but this might be wishful thinking! Anyhow, the Baobab gives you the continent, which is a good start :) Max ________________________________ From: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com on behalf of Christopher Majka Sent: Wed 23/04/2008 17:55 To: Andreas Herrmann Cc: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [coleoptera] Label of A.Villiers Hi Andreas, I think you are correct that one of the words is "Dakar". It looks to me like IFAN - 1946 Mr. Bao (?, perhaps the collector?) ... Dakar "sous (s/) écorce de Baobab décomposé" Which would mean "under the bark of a decomposing Baobab tree (Adansonia digitata). Cheers! Chris On 23-Apr-08, at 1:39 PM, Andreas Herrmann wrote: Dear newsgroup, could anybody help me reading the attached label written by A.Villiers? It concerns to a new species which couldn't be published without the regarding collection data. A.Villiers was a specialist of Cerambycidae and worked at that time for the IFAN (Institut Francaise Africe Noire). I assume, that one of the handwritten words means "Dakar". If you also don't know the location, I would be happy about any hint where I could get the information. Thanks a lot in advance! Andreas Herrmann Germany Christopher Majka Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 c.majka AT ns.sympatico.ca Subject: RE: Label of A.Villiers From: "Max Barclay" <maxb AT nhm.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:45:31 +0100 I agree about Dakar, but a Frenchman wouldn't write 'Mr.Bao' for a collector (Monsieur is M. not Mr.). A google search of 'Bao' and 'Dakar' reveals M'Bao and Petit M'Bao as place names in the region. The word in between 'Bao' and 'Dakar', I like to imagine it says 'pres' which is the French for 'near', i.e. M'Bao, near Dakar, but this might be wishful thinking! Anyhow, the Baobab gives you the continent, which is a good start :) Max ________________________________ From: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com on behalf of Christopher Majka Sent: Wed 23/04/2008 17:55 To: Andreas Herrmann Cc: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [coleoptera] Label of A.Villiers Hi Andreas, I think you are correct that one of the words is "Dakar". It looks to me like IFAN - 1946 Mr. Bao (?, perhaps the collector?) ... Dakar "sous (s/) écorce de Baobab décomposé" Which would mean "under the bark of a decomposing Baobab tree (Adansonia digitata). Cheers! Chris On 23-Apr-08, at 1:39 PM, Andreas Herrmann wrote: Dear newsgroup, could anybody help me reading the attached label written by A.Villiers? It concerns to a new species which couldn't be published without the regarding collection data. A.Villiers was a specialist of Cerambycidae and worked at that time for the IFAN (Institut Francaise Africe Noire). I assume, that one of the handwritten words means "Dakar". If you also don't know the location, I would be happy about any hint where I could get the information. Thanks a lot in advance! Andreas Herrmann Germany Christopher Majka Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 c.majka AT ns.sympatico.ca Subject: Re: Label of A.Villiers From: Jean-Philippe Legrand <jphlegra AT club-internet.fr> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:33:20 +0200 Dear Andreas M¹Bao is a locality in the suburbs of Dakar Œ about15 km S-E, the rest of the label means ³found under the bark of a rotten baobab² ( Adansonia) Best Wishes JPHL Le 23/04/08 18:39, « Andreas Herrmann » a écrit : > Dear newsgroup, > > could anybody help me reading the attached label written by A.Villiers? > It concerns to a new species which couldn't be published without the regarding > collection data. A.Villiers was a specialist of Cerambycidae and worked at > that time for the IFAN (Institut Francaise Africe Noire). I assume, that one > of the handwritten words means "Dakar". > If you also don't know the location, I would be happy about any hint where I > could get the information. > > > Thanks a lot in advance! > > Andreas Herrmann > Germany > > > Subject: Re: Label of A.Villiers From: Christopher Majka <c.majka AT ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:55:55 -0300 Hi Andreas, I think you are correct that one of the words is "Dakar". It looks to me like IFAN - 1946 Mr. Bao (?, perhaps the collector?) ... Dakar "sous (s/) écorce de Baobab décomposé" Which would mean "under the bark of a decomposing Baobab tree (Adansonia digitata). Cheers! Chris On 23-Apr-08, at 1:39 PM, Andreas Herrmann wrote: > > Dear newsgroup, > > could anybody help me reading the attached label written by > A.Villiers? > It concerns to a new species which couldn't be published without the > regarding collection data. A.Villiers was a specialist of > Cerambycidae and worked at that time for the IFAN (Institut > Francaise Africe Noire). I assume, that one of the handwritten words > means "Dakar". > If you also don't know the location, I would be happy about any hint > where I could get the information. > > > Thanks a lot in advance! > > Andreas Herrmann > Germany > > > Christopher Majka Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 c.majka AT ns.sympatico.ca Subject: Label of A.Villiers From: "Andreas Herrmann" <herrmann AT coleopterologie.de> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:39:49 +0200 Dear newsgroup, could anybody help me reading the attached label written by A.Villiers? It concerns to a new species which couldn't be published without the regarding collection data. A.Villiers was a specialist of Cerambycidae and worked at that time for the IFAN (Institut Francaise Africe Noire). I assume, that one of the handwritten words means "Dakar". If you also don't know the location, I would be happy about any hint where I could get the information. Thanks a lot in advance! Andreas Herrmann Germany Subject: hi From: "Cosmin O. Manci" <cosminovidiu AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: info. From: rowena mohagan <rowenasm2000bangbang AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:01:43 +0100 (BST) Hi;, To all on this coleoptera groups, I want your help, for the email address of the UK. post office, or from the england post office, to those who now about this I need your kindness. Rowena. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Subject: Re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Austr... From: "Jean Michel Maes" <jmmaes AT ibw.com.ni> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:56:03 -0500 Yep, still not. You can still publish new species on illegal specimens, it's true. Tell that to the CITES office, so they will have to look for a mechanisms to bother editors of journals also... The idea is that, little by little, you will need to give proofs that your specimen has been obtain legally. That's the case in some museum in the USA, before GIFT your collection you need to proof the specimens have been obtained legally. CITES people generally do not read taxonomical papers. The mechanism exist, just it is not used. You describe a new species in base of specimen(s) deposited somewhere. This somewhere is a collection with an administrative adress. OK, now the mechanisms can work like this. You describe a new species from Nicaragua in a French journal. The CITES office of Nicaragua askl to the CITES office in France to track the specimen and ask for the export permit... if no export permit, CITES office of France can attack the collection in France, in base of a Nicaraguan accusation. Techniaclly any COTES office of the world can demand any collection for keeping illegal material. If you see countries like Thailand or Guatemala, that repentinely organize a very long CITES Apendix III. Many species turn to be illegal. In Thailand there is on the list a bunch of scarabs and Lucanidae, in Guatemala, I think they quit it but there was a very long list of butterflies. For Nicaragua, fortunately, we still have non-histerical administration. For the moment, many entomologists are going trough our museum to get a permit to collect insects in Nicaragua. For entral America, there are friendly entomologists in Chiapas : Ecosur; Guatemala : Universidad del Valle; Salvador : National Museum; Honduras : National University and ZAMORANO; Nicaragua : Museo Entomologico de Leon; Costa Rica : Universidad Nacional, InBio, Universidad de Heredia; Panama : Universidad Nacional, Smithsonian of Panama. The idea would be to have such a list for all countries, so a person looking to collect somewhere can check how to find countacts. I can give e-mail of any of the institutions I mention. Bye, Jean-Michel. Dr. Jean-Michel MAES MUSEO ENTOMOLOGICO AP 527 LEON NICARAGUA tel 505-3116586 cel 505-48-11-351 jmmaes AT ibw.com.ni jmmaes AT bio-nica.info jmmaes AT yahoo.com jmmaes AT walla.com afleon AT ibw.com.ni (oficina de la Alianza Francesa) www.bio-nica.info (main page in spanish) http://360.yahoo.com/jmmaes http://www.ibw.com.ni/u/jmmaes (pequeña pagina de contacto) http://espanol.groups.yahoo.com/group/MEL-Info/ (lista de anuncios - puede inscribirse si le parece) www.avesnicaragua.org (aves) http://www.insectariumvirtual.com/termitero/nicaragua/welcome.htm (Insectos) http://www.coleoptera.org/p1760.htm (Lucanidae genera) Save a tree. Do not print this message if not really necessary ----- Original Message ----- From: Kronekein AT aol.com To: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [coleoptera] Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Austr... Jean-Michel Is it easy to obtain collecting permit in Nicaragua ???? Please check most of new descriptions ..... i don't belived all the new taxa are collected with legal permits. Patrick This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. Subject: RE: More free files and re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Aust From: Dr Trevor Hawkeswood <calodema007 AT hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:06:04 +1000 Dear Colleagues More free files on Coleoptera and other biological topics are now available at www.calodema.com and hopefully more files will be up at the website this coming week. As regards the two yankees busted for pinching tiger beetles, I doubt if much will happen to them in the end. Theres not enough prisons in WA now for the REAL criminals let alone petty ones like the yankees. Now considering that WA has been land clearing from since whites first started to kill out the aboriginals and the farmers over there are the real criminals in my opinion. God knows how many insect species those bastards have made extinct yet nothing happens to them as they are regarded by governments and the populace as very necessary to feed the ever burgeoning human population! So really the insect collectors facing stiff penalties is all crap and a storm in a teacup that will soon die down. They will be sent back to the USA with just a slap to the wrists! Best regards to all, thanking you for examining my site Dr Trevor J. Hawkeswood www.calodema.com _________________________________________________________________ You dream job is up for grabs. Grab it. http://mycareer.com.au/?s_cid=596065 Subject: Re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Austr... From: Kronekein AT aol.com Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:15:21 EDT Jean-Michel Is it easy to obtain collecting permit in Nicaragua ???? Please check most of new descriptions ..... i don't belived all the new taxa are collected with legal permits. Patrick Subject: Re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Australian beetles... From: "Jean Michel Maes" <jmmaes AT ibw.com.ni> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:29:55 -0500 Hi, I have said the same several times, but I think it's important to insist. In most of the countries, there is now laws to "protect" environment. The law has been done by lawyers, not by biologists, so, sometimes the intention is good but the result is a desaster. Than, the law is given to be applied by customs, another team that rarely have biologists. They need to find people doing something against the law. So, the point is not if the law is good or not, just it is a law and we need to respect it (at least when it is not possible to avoid it). First point : hidding insects is studpid. Custom people are not biologists but they have a god training in looking for hidden things, and also, they have a good training to look for people with a "rare" comportment. If insects are hidden "crime" is signed. Second point : it's always better to look for a collegue in the country you plan to go, to get informations about the permit situation. I think there are no countries where at least one beetle hunter exists, so the role of lists like this one could be great to find new friends to play with. If you have countact with a scientific institution it will be probably more easy, sometimes it's only question of organization. Difficult to go and collect some scarabas without permit, but making an agreement with a scientific institution perhaps it will be more easy to collect some scarabs and hundreds of leaf beetles, just to say something, with fully legal permits. So, better to prevent. Better to make things legally, or at least legally-looking than claim after that poor-entomologist drop in jail because didn't know about rules. Bye, Jean-Michel. Dr. Jean-Michel MAES MUSEO ENTOMOLOGICO AP 527 LEON NICARAGUA tel 505-3116586 cel 505-48-11-351 jmmaes AT ibw.com.ni jmmaes AT bio-nica.info jmmaes AT yahoo.com jmmaes AT walla.com afleon AT ibw.com.ni (oficina de la Alianza Francesa) www.bio-nica.info (main page in spanish) http://360.yahoo.com/jmmaes http://www.ibw.com.ni/u/jmmaes (pequeña pagina de contacto) http://espanol.groups.yahoo.com/group/MEL-Info/ (lista de anuncios - puede inscribirse si le parece) www.avesnicaragua.org (aves) http://www.insectariumvirtual.com/termitero/nicaragua/welcome.htm (Insectos) http://www.coleoptera.org/p1760.htm (Lucanidae genera) Save a tree. Do not print this message if not really necessary ----- Original Message ----- From: James Bergdahl To: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [coleoptera] Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Australian beetles... This sounds like it could develop into an interesting case. Most likley not all of the tiger beetle species in their possession were actually 'rare', although the the aussie's new law may not care. You would think that the government authorities would actually be more interested in paying a bounty the encourage people to export some resident species, such as established foreign beetles, dead or alive. But that would require Customs to hire ecologist-taxonomists. I don't try to 'hide' my beetles in vials in yogurt containers, but I do sometimes store them in someting similiar. If I was getting on a aeroplane I would certainly do something like that. Is there a market for carabid beetles? What were these guys up too? Pease keep us posted when more news appears about this bust. James On 4/12/08, Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld wrote: 2 charged in bid to smuggle 1,300 dead beetles Americans could get up to 10 years in Australian prison PERTH, Australia - Two American men were arrested at an Australian airport and charged with trying to smuggle hundreds of dead beetles to the United States, customs officials said Thursday. A 62-year-old from Naples, Fla., and a 63-year-old from Cambridge, Mass., will appear Friday in a court in the west coast city of Perth, the Australian Customs Service said in a statement. They will be charged under environmental law with exporting a regulated Australian native species without a permit, the statement said. The men, who cannot be identified for legal reasons before their first court appearance, each face fines of up to $93,000 and a maximum of 10 years in prison. Customs officials allegedly found 1,300 native beetles, mostly tiger beetles, in glass vials of alcohol concealed in empty plastic yogurt containers in the men's luggage, the statement said. Full: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24049250/ --------------------- Two arrested in Australia for smuggling rare beetles International Animal Rescue, UK - Apr 11, 2008 Two US citizens have been arrested in Australia after attempting to smuggle more than 1000 rare beetles out of the country. Customs officials said on ... US beetle smugglers arrested in Australia RIA Novosti, Russia - Apr 10, 2008 MOSCOW, April 10 (RIA Novosti) - Two US citizens in their sixties have been arrested in the Australian city of Perth on charges of attempting to smuggle ... Australia nabs two for smuggling beetles Reuters UK, UK - Apr 10, 2008 CANBERRA (Reuters) - Two men from the United States have been arrested and charged with trying to smuggle about 1300 native beetles out of Australia in ... 2 American men charged in Australia with trying to smuggle 1300 ... International Herald Tribune, France - Apr 9, 2008 AP PERTH, Australia: Two American men were arrested at an Australian airport and charged with trying to smuggle hundreds of dead beetles to the United ... Australian customs arrests 2 Americans for beetle smuggling Xinhua, China - Apr 9, 2008 CANBERRA, April 10 (Xinhua) -- Australian Customs officers managed to stop a 62-year-old man, following a tipoff, as he tried to fly out of Australia's ... This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. Subject: Re: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Australian beetles... From: "James Bergdahl" <jcbergdahl AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:19:28 -0700 This sounds like it could develop into an interesting case. Most likley not all of the tiger beetle species in their possession were actually 'rare', although the the aussie's new law may not care. You would think that the government authorities would actually be more interested in paying a bounty the encourage people to export some resident species, such as established foreign beetles, dead or alive. But that would require Customs to hire ecologist-taxonomists. I don't try to 'hide' my beetles in vials in yogurt containers, but I do sometimes store them in someting similiar. If I was getting on a aeroplane I would certainly do something like that. Is there a market for carabid beetles? What were these guys up too? Pease keep us posted when more news appears about this bust. James On 4/12/08, Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld wrote: > > > > 2 charged in bid to smuggle 1,300 dead beetles > > Americans could get up to 10 years in Australian prison > > PERTH, Australia - Two American men were arrested at an Australian > airport and charged with trying to smuggle hundreds of dead beetles to > the United States, customs officials said Thursday. > > A 62-year-old from Naples, Fla., and a 63-year-old from Cambridge, > Mass., will appear Friday in a court in the west coast city of Perth, > the Australian Customs Service said in a statement. > > They will be charged under environmental law with exporting a > regulated Australian native species without a permit, the statement > said. > > The men, who cannot be identified for legal reasons before their first > court appearance, each face fines of up to $93,000 and a maximum of 10 > years in prison. > > Customs officials allegedly found 1,300 native beetles, mostly tiger > beetles, in glass vials of alcohol concealed in empty plastic yogurt > containers in the men's luggage, the statement said. > > Full: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24049250/ > > --------------------- > > Two arrested in Australia for smuggling rare beetles > International Animal Rescue, UK - Apr 11, 2008 > Two US citizens have been arrested in Australia after attempting to > smuggle more than 1000 rare beetles out of the country. Customs > officials said on ... > > US beetle smugglers arrested in Australia > RIA Novosti, Russia - Apr 10, 2008 > MOSCOW, April 10 (RIA Novosti) - Two US citizens in their sixties have > been arrested in the Australian city of Perth on charges of attempting > to smuggle ... > > Australia nabs two for smuggling beetles > Reuters UK, UK - Apr 10, 2008 > CANBERRA (Reuters) - Two men from the United States have been arrested > and charged with trying to smuggle about 1300 native beetles out of > Australia in ... > > 2 American men charged in Australia with trying to smuggle 1300 ... > International Herald Tribune, France - Apr 9, 2008 > AP PERTH, Australia: Two American men were arrested at an Australian > airport and charged with trying to smuggle hundreds of dead beetles to > the United ... > > Australian customs arrests 2 Americans for beetle smuggling > Xinhua, China - Apr 9, 2008 > CANBERRA, April 10 (Xinhua) -- Australian Customs officers managed to > stop a 62-year-old man, following a tipoff, as he tried to fly out of > Australia's ... > > > Subject: Scentless Spring? Flower Smells Blocked by Pollution From: "Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld" <ricardo AT ans.com.au> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:58:00 +1000 And what about the beetles? Scentless Spring? Flower Smells Blocked by Pollution Today, in the polluted air found downwind of large metropolises, scents may only make it some 650 to 980 feet (200 to 300 meters). The impact is especially pronounced during high-pollution "code red" days in summer. * "Lots of vehicles are releasing nitrogen oxides," Fuentes said. "When [the gases] are in the presence of sunlight they are converted into these molecules that we call ozone-one of the main pollutants that we find in the eastern U.S. in the summer months. "Fragrances are overwhelmed by it." Fuentes and colleagues published their findings recently in the journal Atmospheric Environment. (Related news: "Japan's Cherry Trees Bloom in Fall; Warming to Blame?" [November 27, 2007].) Bad News For Bees? With bee populations dropping dramatically in many parts of the world, could these missing scents be a factor? Scientists trying to pinpoint the cause of bee declines have variously blamed viruses, mites, bacteria, pesticides, and even cell-phone radiation. Jay Evans, an entomologist at the U.S. Department of Agriculture's bee research laboratory in Beltsville, Maryland, was intrigued by the new study but hasn't seen bee behavior that suggests trouble with scents. "Over the last couple of summers I don't think the bees in this area were bringing in much less food," he said. "It might be that they had to work harder, but it seems like as long as there were bees to collect food they were finding flowers somewhere." Evans also noted that beekeepers didn't report big drops in their honey yields, which would have occurred had food been harder to find. But lead author Fuentes fears that the fading smell of flowers may stress insects already faced with an array of other threats. "The [effects shown in] these studies will simply exacerbate whatever the bees are going through right now," he said. "It's something that is really worthwhile paying attention to." Mary Powell-McConnell Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum Records and Quarantine Department of Mammalogy and Ornithology 2021 N Kinney Road Tucson, Az 85743 520-883-1380 520-883-2500 (fax) mpowell-mcconnell AT desertmuseum.org Subject: Re: : Save the Utrecht harbarium From: "John Alexander Pulgarin Diaz" <jalexanderpulgarin AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:00:50 -0500 What can we do to this? Is there any way to get funding for the Utrecht herbarium? -- JOHN ALEXANDER PULGARÍN DÍAZ Ingeniero Forestal Museo Entomológico Francisco Luis Gallego Postgrado de Entomología Universidad Nacional de Colombia, Medellín A.A. 3840 Medellín E-mail: japulga0 AT unalmed.edu.co Celular: 57 300 7843022 Tel: 57 (4) 430 9136 Fax:57 (4) 430 9100 On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld wrote: > DEAR all, > > On 26th March 2008 the University Board of > Utrecht University, The Netherlands, informed the > employees of the Utrecht Herbarium that as of 1 > June 2008 the Herbarium is to be closed and, with > immediate effect, access to the collections, from > national as well as international workers, is to cease. > :'( This must not be allowed! :'( > > Closure of the Herbarium is a disaster for > current national and international research! > Closure of the Herbarium is a disaster for any future research! > Closure of the Herbarium contradicts the > Biodiversity Covenant signed by the Netherlands > which ensures the accessibility of data relating > to biodiversity (either under Dutch ownership or under Dutch > guardianship). > Closure of the Herbarium is a disaster for all > the botanical and ecological research taking > place in South America, especially Suriname, > Guyana, French Guyana and the Amazonian basin. > Closure of the Herbarium is in effect a denial of > the cultural-historical value of this Herbarium to The Netherlands. > Closure of the Herbarium is the start of > scientific deterioration and wrecks the > near-finalized plans for the creation of one > Dutch Centre for Biodiversity (NCB). > > What can you do: > * Visit the website > www.SaveHerbariumU.nland sign the > petition. > * Send this email to all your contacts. > > Gerard Thijsse > Chief Collections Manager > Nationaal Herbarium Nederland > P.O. Box 9514 > 2300 RA Leiden > T: +31(0)71 5273558 > F: +31(0)71 5273511 > http://www.nationaalherbarium.nl/ > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides > . > > > Subject: Two Americans face prison, *stiff* fines for smuggling Australian beetles... From: "Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld" <ricardo AT ans.com.au> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:22:02 +1000 2 charged in bid to smuggle 1,300 dead beetles Americans could get up to 10 years in Australian prison PERTH, Australia - Two American men were arrested at an Australian airport and charged with trying to smuggle hundreds of dead beetles to the United States, customs officials said Thursday. A 62-year-old from Naples, Fla., and a 63-year-old from Cambridge, Mass., will appear Friday in a court in the west coast city of Perth, the Australian Customs Service said in a statement. They will be charged under environmental law with exporting a regulated Australian native species without a permit, the statement said. The men, who cannot be identified for legal reasons before their first court appearance, each face fines of up to $93,000 and a maximum of 10 years in prison. Customs officials allegedly found 1,300 native beetles, mostly tiger beetles, in glass vials of alcohol concealed in empty plastic yogurt containers in the men's luggage, the statement said. Full: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24049250/ --------------------- Two arrested in Australia for smuggling rare beetles International Animal Rescue, UK - Apr 11, 2008 Two US citizens have been arrested in Australia after attempting to smuggle more than 1000 rare beetles out of the country. Customs officials said on ... US beetle smugglers arrested in Australia RIA Novosti, Russia - Apr 10, 2008 MOSCOW, April 10 (RIA Novosti) - Two US citizens in their sixties have been arrested in the Australian city of Perth on charges of attempting to smuggle ... Australia nabs two for smuggling beetles Reuters UK, UK - Apr 10, 2008 CANBERRA (Reuters) - Two men from the United States have been arrested and charged with trying to smuggle about 1300 native beetles out of Australia in ... 2 American men charged in Australia with trying to smuggle 1300 ... International Herald Tribune, France - Apr 9, 2008 AP PERTH, Australia: Two American men were arrested at an Australian airport and charged with trying to smuggle hundreds of dead beetles to the United ... Australian customs arrests 2 Americans for beetle smuggling Xinhua, China - Apr 9, 2008 CANBERRA, April 10 (Xinhua) -- Australian Customs officers managed to stop a 62-year-old man, following a tipoff, as he tried to fly out of Australia's ... Subject: : Save the Utrecht harbarium From: "Vratislav Ricardo Bejsak Colloredo Mansfeld" <ricardo AT ans.com.au> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:20:03 +1000 DEAR all, On 26th March 2008 the University Board of Utrecht University, The Netherlands, informed the employees of the Utrecht Herbarium that as of 1 June 2008 the Herbarium is to be closed and, with immediate effect, access to the collections, from national as well as international workers, is to cease. :'( This must not be allowed! :'( Closure of the Herbarium is a disaster for current national and international research! Closure of the Herbarium is a disaster for any future research! Closure of the Herbarium contradicts the Biodiversity Covenant signed by the Netherlands which ensures the accessibility of data relating to biodiversity (either under Dutch ownership or under Dutch guardianship). Closure of the Herbarium is a disaster for all the botanical and ecological research taking place in South America, especially Suriname, Guyana, French Guyana and the Amazonian basin. Closure of the Herbarium is in effect a denial of the cultural-historical value of this Herbarium to The Netherlands. Closure of the Herbarium is the start of scientific deterioration and wrecks the near-finalized plans for the creation of one Dutch Centre for Biodiversity (NCB). What can you do: * Visit the website www.SaveHerbariumU.nl and sign the petition. * Send this email to all your contacts. Gerard Thijsse Chief Collections Manager Nationaal Herbarium Nederland P.O. Box 9514 2300 RA Leiden T: +31(0)71 5273558 F: +31(0)71 5273511 http://www.nationaalherbarium.nl/ ------ End of Forwarded Message _____ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. Subject: Fruhstorferia from N.Cambodia From: Li Jingke <lijingkebeetles AT yahoo.com.cn> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:42:20 +0800 (CST) Dear sir Today I just got the following Fruhstorferia(new sp??) from Cambodia: Data:Poeng(NL14:15 EL103:30), Oddar Mean Chey Province, Cambodia, March20-31, 2008 Fruhstorferia(Rutelidae, new sp??) 40$/1pair Stock:36pairs wholesale: Fruhstorferia: 36pairs x 15$=540$ ___________________________________________________________ ÑÅ»¢ÓÊÏ䣬ÄúµÄÖÕÉúÓÊÏ䣡 http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/ Subject: Re: Help with identification of an imported Bruchid - This is Megabruchidius From: Merkl Otto <merkl AT zoo.nhmus.hu> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:04:43 +0200 Dear Andreas, For me it is clear that your specimen belongs to Megabruchidius tonkineus (Pic, 1904). It was accidentally introduced and now rapidly spreading in Hungary; its host plant is Gleditsia triacanthos. The species was identified by Hella Wendt and Klaus-Werner Anton several years ago. (A pdf version of the paper on this species in Hungary is here: http://www.nhmus.hu/%7Egyorgy/gyzolipdf/13Gyorgy_Z.pdf, but I send it to your private address as well.) Pictures see here: http://www.nhmus.hu/%7Egyorgy/Mtonkineus.html The species name Bruchidius endotubercularis Arora, 1980 sent by Dr Kingsolver (via bobsgems) is unknown to me. Would it be a separate species or a synonym? Best wishes: Otto Merkl Andreas Herrmann írta: > > Hello, > > anybody out there who is familiar with the family Bruchidae outside of > Europe? I obtained an example which was reared from Acacia seed > vessels, collected near the zoo of Basel (Switzerland). The specimen > is quite large, 6 mm (without legs and antennae of course). > I wonder if somebody could tell me the name of the species and > therefore placed a picture of it in the internet: > http://www.dermestidae.com/Fotos/Bruchid.jpg > > > Otherwise it also would be helpful if somebody could tell me the name > of a regarding specialist. > > With best regards > > Andreas Herrmann > Bremervoerder Strasse 123 > D - 21682 Stade > Deutschland (Germany) > Tel. and Fax: ++ 49 (0) 721 / 151268497 > E-mail: herrmann AT coleopterologie.de > Internet: http://www.Dermestidae.com Subject: Re: Help with identification of an imported Bruchid From: Ibrahim ElHawary <hawary45 AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 03:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Dear Mr Herrmann, The specimen without legs and antenna,but the photo in the site provided has legs and antenna.Could you please explain it to me. thanks in advance and best regards. yours, Prof.Dr.Emeritus:Ibrahim El-Hawary Economic Entomology,Plant Protection Dept. Faculty of Agriculture,Tanta University,A.R.Egypt. Andreas Herrmann wrote: Hello, anybody out there who is familiar with the family Bruchidae outside of Europe? I obtained an example which was reared from Acacia seed vessels, collected near the zoo of Basel (Switzerland). The specimen is quite large, 6 mm (without legs and antennae of course). I wonder if somebody could tell me the name of the species and therefore placed a picture of it in the internet: http://www.dermestidae.com/Fotos/Bruchid.jpg Otherwise it also would be helpful if somebody could tell me the name of a regarding specialist. With best regards Andreas Herrmann Bremervoerder Strasse 123 D - 21682 Stade Deutschland (Germany) Tel. and Fax: ++ 49 (0) 721 / 151268497 E-mail: herrmann AT coleopterologie.de Internet: http://www.Dermestidae.com --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Subject: small beetles from Cambodia From: Li Jingke <lijingkebeetles AT yahoo.com.cn> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:15:18 +0800 (CST) I have following small beetles from Cambodia Data:Poeng(NL14:15 EL103:30), Oddar Mean Chey Province, Cambodia, March20-31, 2008 No.1-68: $4/1ex, 500exs stocks wholesale: 500exs x$0.5=$250 postage$20, total is $270 Yours, Li Jingke ___________________________________________________________ ÑÅ»¢ÓÊÏ䣬ÄúµÄÖÕÉúÓÊÏ䣡 http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/ Subject: Re: [coleoptera] Help with identification of an imported Bruchid From: äÅÎÉÓ ÷. ðÏÔÁÎÉÎ <dpotanin AT inbox.ru> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:10:21 +0400 Hello, Sveta! ÷Ù ÐÉÓÁÌÉ 6 ÁÐÒÅÌÑ 2008 Ç., 20:52:54: SV> åÓÌÅ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÐÏ ÒÕÓÓËÉ üÔÏ ÁÎÇÌÏÑÚÙÞÎÁÑ ÒÁÓÓÙÌËÁ :) -- Best regards, Denis V. Potanin mailto:dpotanin AT inbox.ru ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coleoptera/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coleoptera/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:coleoptera-digest AT yahoogroups.com mailto:coleoptera-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: coleoptera-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Subject: Re: Help with identification of an imported Bruchid From: "Andreas Herrmann" <herrmann AT coleopterologie.de> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:59:19 +0200 Dear Bob, thanks a lot!!! Andreas ----- Original Message ----- From: bobsgems AT aol.com To: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [coleoptera] Help with identification of an imported Bruchid Dr. Hermann: I sent your request to Dr. John Kingsolver & his reply follows: Bob: Bruchidius endotubercularis Arora. Described from India and introduced into Argentina in Gleditsia triacanthos and now into Germany. Original host in description was in Acacia. John Kingsolver In a message dated 4/6/2008 9:31:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, herrmann AT coleopterologie.de writes: Hello, anybody out there who is familiar with the family Bruchidae outside of Europe? I obtained an example which was reared from Acacia seed vessels, collected near the zoo of Basel (Switzerland). The specimen is quite large, 6 mm (without legs and antennae of course). I wonder if somebody could tell me the name of the species and therefore placed a picture of it in the internet: http://www.dermestidae.com/Fotos/Bruchid.jpg Otherwise it also would be helpful if somebody could tell me the name of a regarding specialist. With best regards Andreas Herrmann Bremervoerder Strasse 123 D - 21682 Stade Deutschland (Germany) Tel. and Fax: ++ 49 (0) 721 / 151268497 E-mail: herrmann AT coleopterologie.de Internet: http://www.Dermestidae.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. Subject: Re: Help with identification of an imported Bruchid From: bobsgems AT aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:32:19 EDT Dr. Hermann: I sent your request to Dr. John Kingsolver & his reply follows: Bob: Bruchidius endotubercularis Arora. Described from India and introduced into Argentina in Gleditsia triacanthos and now into Germany. Original host in description was in Acacia. John Kingsolver In a message dated 4/6/2008 9:31:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, herrmann AT coleopterologie.de writes: Hello, anybody out there who is familiar with the family Bruchidae outside of Europe? I obtained an example which was reared from Acacia seed vessels, collected near the zoo of Basel (Switzerland). The specimen is quite large, 6 mm (without legs and antennae of course). I wonder if somebody could tell me the name of the species and therefore placed a picture of it in the internet: _http://www.dermestidae.com/Fotos/Bruchid.jpg_ (http://www.dermestidae.com/Fotos/Bruchid.jpg) Otherwise it also would be helpful if somebody could tell me the name of a regarding specialist. With best regards Andreas Herrmann Bremervoerder Strasse 123 D - 21682 Stade Deutschland (Germany) Tel. and Fax: ++ 49 (0) 721 / 151268497 E-mail: _herrmann AT coleopterologie.de_ (mailto:herrmann AT coleopterologie.de) Internet: _http://www.Dermestidae.com_ (http://www.dermestidae.com/) **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) Subject: Help with identification of an imported Bruchid From: "Andreas Herrmann" <herrmann AT coleopterologie.de> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:30:44 +0200 Hello, anybody out there who is familiar with the family Bruchidae outside of Europe? I obtained an example which was reared from Acacia seed vessels, collected near the zoo of Basel (Switzerland). The specimen is quite large, 6 mm (without legs and antennae of course). I wonder if somebody could tell me the name of the species and therefore placed a picture of it in the internet: http://www.dermestidae.com/Fotos/Bruchid.jpg Otherwise it also would be helpful if somebody could tell me the name of a regarding specialist. With best regards Andreas Herrmann Bremervoerder Strasse 123 D - 21682 Stade Deutschland (Germany) Tel. and Fax: ++ 49 (0) 721 / 151268497 E-mail: herrmann AT coleopterologie.de Internet: http://www.Dermestidae.com Subject: Re: Check out Sensory Systems From: Nitu Eugen <eunitu AT yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Hellow ! See also Nitzu & Juberthie articles on sensorial 1995 . N ITZU , E., J UBERTHIE , C., Changement dans l'equipement sensoriel des antennes et des palpes maxillaires en fonction de l'habitat edaphique et souterrain chez les coleopteres Trechinae (Caraboidaea, Trechidae). Bull. Soc. Ecophysiologie, XX (1-2), p. 67-78. Toulouse. 1996 . N ITZU , E., J UBERTHIE , C., Changement dans l'equipement sensoriel des antennes et des palpes maxillaires en fonction de l'habitat chez les coleopteres Clivininae (Scaritidae).M é m Biosp é ol. XXIII, p. 91-102, Moulis. bobsgems AT aol.com wrote: Click here: Sensory Systems [good general discussion of sensory organs] Click here: O. Orkin Insect Zoo: Basic Facts--Insect Senses [Good introduction to insect senses] Click here: Introduction to insect sensory organs as a model s...[Microsc Res Tech. 1997] - PubMed Result [an excellent source for sense organ modeling] There is an old book by McIndoo (don't have reference here) on Insect senses. --------------------------------- Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Subject: question of Dichotomius From: Sergio Rolando <sioland AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Hi friends: Somebody knows this species? I identify it as Dichotomius cuprinus (Felsche, 1901) but I have doubts, the elytron are with reddish bottom with greenish shine (that is not noticed in the picture) the stries are formed by remarkable points, interestrias flat almost without points (neither very visible in this picture), clipeo with wrinkles non points. The metatibial spur is strongly marginated. it seems to be near to the group of D. carbonarius, but I can be wrong !!. It is from Brazil: Rondonia: Alto Río Senger. XII. 2003. 20 mm. long I thank any comment in this respect ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com Subject: Check out Sensory Systems From: bobsgems AT aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 23:41:10 EDT _Click here: Sensory Systems_ (http://faculty.clintoncc.suny.edu/faculty/michael.gregory/files/bio%20102/bio%20102%20lectures/sensory%20systems/sensory.htm ) [good general discussion of sensory organs] _Click here: O. Orkin Insect Zoo: Basic Facts--Insect Senses_ (http://insectzoo.msstate.edu/Students/basic.senses.html) [Good introduction to insect senses] _Click here: Introduction to insect sensory organs as a model s...[Microsc Res Tech. 1997] - PubMed Result_ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9438247) [an excellent source for sense organ modeling] There is an old book by McIndoo (don't have reference here) on Insect senses. **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) Subject: Fw: Sensory organs in Heteroptera From: "A. Ahadiyat" <a_aliir AT hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 21:15:06 +0430 Dear Colleagues, Although this list belongs to the coleopterists, I have some questions on Heteroptera morphological characters and behavior, and would welcome any suggests or recommendations concerning the following topic: How can bugs (order Heteroptera) find their host plants and their mates for copulation? Are there sensory organs in their antennae, like aphids? If so, in which antennal segments do they exist? And how can they help them in their intra-specific and inter-specific relations? I would greatly appreciate receiving your comments or any related papers regarding the sensory organs in heteropterous insects. With many thanks and warmest regards, Ali Ahadiyat Ali Ahadiyat Department of Entomology College of Agriculture and Natural Resources Science and Research Branch Azad University Hesarak, Poonak Tehran, IRAN P.O.Box: 14515-775 alia_ir AT hotmail.com ahadiyata AT yahoo.com Subject: Re: ID required From: ZUBAIR AHMED <zubair_ahmed_74 AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Dear friend, this exuviae tenetaively belongs to genus Paharia. if someone know any cicadologist from India, please let me know. regards Zubair Pakistan Ibrahim ElHawary wrote: Dear Dr.Majka, I would like to thank you very much for your correction.This an alert to any one,to examine the specimen before jumping to an erroneous conclusion.Thanks again and best regards. Sincerely yours, Prof.Dr.(Emeritus) Ibrahim Said El-Hawary Economic.Entomology,Plant Protection Dept Faculty of Agriculture,Tanta University,A.R.Egypt. Christopher Majka wrote: Hi, This is not a beetle but a cast off skin from the nymph of a Cicada (Hompotera: Cicadidae). Best wishes, Chris On Mar 30, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Sachin Chorge wrote: Got At Bnhs CEC/ SNGP goregaon..... -- Sachin V.C............... Christopher Majka Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 c.majka AT ns.sympatico.ca --------------------------------- Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost. --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Subject: Re: ID required From: Ibrahim ElHawary <hawary45 AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Dear Dr.Majka, I would like to thank you very much for your correction.This an alert to any one,to examine the specimen before jumping to an erroneous conclusion.Thanks again and best regards. Sincerely yours, Prof.Dr.(Emeritus) Ibrahim Said El-Hawary Economic.Entomology,Plant Protection Dept Faculty of Agriculture,Tanta University,A.R.Egypt. Christopher Majka wrote: Hi, This is not a beetle but a cast off skin from the nymph of a Cicada (Hompotera: Cicadidae). Best wishes, Chris On Mar 30, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Sachin Chorge wrote: Got At Bnhs CEC/ SNGP goregaon..... -- Sachin V.C............... Christopher Majka Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 c.majka AT ns.sympatico.ca --------------------------------- Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost. Subject: Re: Beetle for ID From: "A.R.V. Kumar" <arv_k02 AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Its a Buprestid Beetle. (Jewel Beete): Buprestidae MAy be Belinota(?) sp. Sachin Chorge wrote: Hi, I have found this inside cashu nut tree stem at sindhudurg . before 10 days. -- Sachin V.C............... -- Sachin V.C............... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. A.R.V. Kumar Department of Entomology University of Agricultural Sciences Gandhi Krishi Vignana Kendra Bangalore - 560 065, India Phone (O) : +91-80-23330153 (R) : +91-80-23620986 --------------------------------- Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost. Subject: Re: ID required........... From: "A.R.V. Kumar" <arv_k02 AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:18:53 -0700 (PDT) It is the exuvium (Outer skin) of the last instar nymph of A: Cicada : sPECIES NOT KNOWN Cicadidae : Homoptera : Hemiptera Sachin Chorge wrote: Got At Bnhs CEC/ SNGP goregaon..... -- Sachin V.C............... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. A.R.V. Kumar Department of Entomology University of Agricultural Sciences Gandhi Krishi Vignana Kendra Bangalore - 560 065, India Phone (O) : +91-80-23330153 (R) : +91-80-23620986 --------------------------------- Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now Subject: Re: ID required........... From: "Sachin Chorge" <sachinvch AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:36:41 +0530 Thank You all..... On 3/31/08, Dr Trevor Hawkeswood wrote: > > > Dear VC Sachin > > Yup, the two shots (great closeups!!) appear to be shells (pupal cases) of > recently emerged cicadas (bugs, erroneously called locusts - Cicadidae). Its > great to see fresh soil on them. > > Best regards, Dr Trevor J. Hawkeswood (www.calodema.com) > __________________________________________________________ > Search for local singles online AT Lavalife > > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT > > -- Sachin V.C............... Subject: RE: ID required........... From: Dr Trevor Hawkeswood <spilopyra AT hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:55:12 +1000 Dear VC Sachin Yup, the two shots (great closeups!!) appear to be shells (pupal cases) of recently emerged cicadas (bugs, erroneously called locusts - Cicadidae). Its great to see fresh soil on them. Best regards, Dr Trevor J. Hawkeswood (www.calodema.com) _________________________________________________________________ Search for local singles online AT Lavalife http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT Subject: RE: Beetle for ID From: Dr Trevor Hawkeswood <spilopyra AT hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:48:35 +1000 Dear VC Sachin It looks like a Belionota sp. to me (Buprestidae). Lovely specimen. Best regards Dr Trevor J. Hawkeswood www.calodema.com _________________________________________________________________ Fashion, beauty, health, relationship advice and horoscopes. http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=873&referral=MarchHotmailTagline&URL=http://lifestyle.ninemsn.com.au/?ocid=T003HOT40A0710G Subject: Re: [coleoptera] river as barriers to dispersal of animals From: "James Bergdahl" <jcbergdahl AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:43:31 -0800 Hi Jim, My email address is: jcbergdahl AT gmail.com. You are welcome to phone too - 8a-10p PST. James Bergdahl Spokane, WA, USA 509-835-5233 On 3/30/08, james cornell wrote: > > Dear James: > > Please send me your e-address. I'd like to learn about your island > collecting and what you trapped. > Thank you, > Jim > > J.F.Cornell, PhD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* James Bergdahl > *To: *coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* 11/6/2007 2:24:17 AM > *Subject:* [SPAM] [coleoptera] river as barriers to dispersal of animals > > > > I am trying with find copies of the follwing publications, or better yet > their english translations: > > Wagner, M. 1868. *Die Darwin'sche Theorie und das Migrationsgesetz der > Organismen.* Duncker & Humbolt, Leipzig. > > Wagner, M., 1889. *Die Entstehung der Arten durch raumliche Sonderung*. > Schwalbe, Basel. > > These are obviously old books and there are not many of them around. I > recently priced one of the titles on online at ~US$850! > > Apparently, according to Menno Schilthuizen (p. 34, 2001)*, *"In 1837 > while collecting insects in Algeria, the young Wagner was struck by the fact > that each time he crossed a river, he would find new species of the > wingless, blundering darkling beetle Pimelia."* > ** > Is anyone familar enough with these species to know if this is > actually the real situation on the ground? Certainly the taxonomy, > systematics and distribution of the group is better know today. > > I am especially interested in the phenomena of 'rivers as barriers to > animal dispersal'. I work on carabid beetles in the Pacific Northwest of > North America (~700 spp.) Does anyone know of other possible sources of > information documenting such anomolies in species distribtuions? > > James Bergdahl > Spokane, Washington > > > > > > > > > > > > *Schilthuizen, Menno (2001). *Frogs, flies & dandelions: the making of > species.* Oxford University Press, Oxford, UK, 245pp. > > > > Subject: Re: ID required........... From: Christopher Majka <c.majka AT ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:44:55 -0300 Hi, This is not a beetle but a cast off skin from the nymph of a Cicada (Hompotera: Cicadidae). Best wishes, Chris On Mar 30, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Sachin Chorge wrote: > Got At Bnhs CEC/ SNGP goregaon..... > > -- > Sachin V.C............... > > Christopher Majka Nova Scotia Museum, 1747 Summer St., Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada B3H 3A6 c.majka AT ns.sympatico.ca Subject: Beetle for ID From: "Sachin Chorge" <sachinvch AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:55:24 +0530 Hi, I have found this inside cashu nut tree stem at sindhudurg . before 10 days. -- Sachin V.C............... -- Sachin V.C............... Subject: ID required........... From: "Sachin Chorge" <sachinvch AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:33:22 +0530 Got At Bnhs CEC/ SNGP goregaon..... -- Sachin V.C............... Subject: RE: [coleoptera] river as barriers to dispersal of animals From: "james cornell" <jcbugman AT earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:27:35 -0400 Dear James: Please send me your e-address. I'd like to learn about your island collecting and what you trapped. Thank you, Jim J.F.Cornell, PhD ----- Original Message ----- From: James Bergdahl To: coleoptera AT yahoogroups.com Sent: 11/6/2007 2:24:17 AM Subject: [SPAM] [coleoptera] river as barriers to dispersal of animals I am trying with find copies of the follwing publications, or better yet their english translations: Wagner, M. 1868. Die Darwin'sche Theorie und das Migrationsgesetz der Organismen. Duncker & Humbolt, Leipzig. Wagner, M., 1889. Die Entstehung der Arten durch raumliche Sonderung. Schwalbe, Basel. These are obviously old books and there are not many of them around. I recently priced one of the titles on online at ~US$850! Apparently, according to Menno Schilthuizen (p. 34, 2001)*, "In 1837 while collecting insects in Algeria, the young Wagner was struck by the fact that each time he crossed a river, he would find new species of the wingless, blundering darkling beetle Pimelia." Is anyone familar enough with these species to know if this is actually the real situation on the ground? Certainly the taxonomy, systematics and distribution of the group is better know today. I am especially interested in the phenomena of 'rivers as barriers to animal dispersal'. I work on carabid beetles in the Pacific Northwest of North America (~700 spp.) Does anyone know of other possible sources of information documenting such anomolies in species distribtuions? James Bergdahl Spokane, Washington *Schilthuizen, Menno (2001). Frogs, flies & dandelions: the making of species. Oxford University Press, Oxford, UK, 245pp. Subject: Re: Help me out From: "Sachin Chorge" <sachinvch AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:00:27 +0530 Hi, Try for BNHS library. On 3/28/08, JONES ANDREW wrote: > > Dear all, > could anybody having the paper in your library please sent to me. i am > really in need of that...see below for details > > Aslam, N.A.1961. On Indo-Pakistan Leptomias Faust(Col.Curc) and allied > genera. Annals Mag. Natural of History,(13)4: 321-339 > > Thank you, > Jones Philip > Division of Entomology > Indian Agricultural Research Institute > New Delhi-110012 > India > > ------------------------------ > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > -- Sachin V.C............... Subject: Help me out From: JONES ANDREW <jon666_jon AT yahoo.co.in> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:46:04 +0000 (GMT) Dear all, could anybody having the paper in your library please sent to me. i am really in need of that...see below for details Aslam, N.A.1961. On Indo-Pakistan Leptomias Faust(Col.Curc) and allied genera. Annals Mag. Natural of History,(13)4: 321-339 Thank you, Jones Philip Division of Entomology Indian Agricultural Research Institute New Delhi-110012 India --------------------------------- Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Subject: Sagra sp. from Laos From: Li Jingke <lijingkebeetles AT yahoo.com.cn> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:39:54 +0800 (CST) I have mixed Large-Small Sagra sp. from Laos, total is 500exs, 500exs=120$ all the specimens have correct collecting data. and they are usefull for scientific study. please you contact me if you need them. ___________________________________________________________ ÑÅ»¢ÓÊÏ䣬ÄúµÄÖÕÉúÓÊÏ䣡 http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/ Subject: Re: Pitfall traps From: "James Bergdahl" <jcbergdahl AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:41:18 -0700 I ran thousands of pitfall traps during 1985-90 in the San Juan (WA) and Gulf Islands (BC) in the Pacific Northwest, mainly for carabid beetles but spiders, staphylinids and other inverts were also saved. These traps were distributed across hundreds of traplines on ~60 islands, many of which were small and difficult to get to. I often had to leave traps out for 4-6 weeks between servicing them. Initially I tried antifreeze, but quickly became very dissappointed with the results (quality of specimens). Another huge problem was the fact the the antifreeze attracted raccoons and deer which often would pull all the trap out and totally destroy the samples. I ended up using very dilute ~5% formalin with a little dish soap (reduce surface tension). The formalin I used was sold in 4L brown bottles and was labelled 47%. I used seawater instead of freshwater: the fomers was available in almost infinite quantities, the later was very rare or non-existant on small islands. For winter trapping I do add a little antifreeze. My system worked efficiently in any remote regions where one must hike too. If you have access to any water, all you have to pack in are small quantities of formalin and soap (plus traps and covers, etc). In cool habitats with low volumes to trap specimens I can reuse the trap solution by pooring sample true a tea sieve. I used 10oz SOLO party cups for traps. The traps cost about $.05 each, and holes for them can be made quickly with standard garden bulb planters (soil corers), which have always been easy to find in my area. I would alsocarry a stout soup spoon to use as a tiny shovels to make final adjustments to the hole and remove any small rocks with may get in the way. I would also carry a screwdriver that about 20 cm long. In rocky soils you may save alot of time by probing to avoid rocks and large roots with the screwdriver before attempting to boring a hole. All of my trap equipment would fit into a ~3gal plastic bucket with a tight fitting lid. This incuded: SOLO cups, bulb planter, screwdriver, soup spoon, very small container of dish soap, 3-4 ~1 quart plastic bottles for mixing trap solution, a similar bottle of full strength formalin, a small strainer for filtering sample contents from trap solution, plastic sample bags. I also always carried a good trick pair of plastic gloves. I would carry ~8"x8"X.25" taps cover in my backpack. I would make these out of exterior plywood or high-density particle board (such as products sold in my area as a "bath shower surround"). Formalin is obvioulsy very toxic and must be avoided as much as possible, but in very dilaute solution it is much more tolerable to the senses. If you can not sort the sample contents immediately, I found samples pickled in formailn can be kept in plastic sample bags in a refrigerator for quite awhile. Unfortunately, insects trapped with formalin are apparently more-or-less useless for genetic analysis, which would otherwise be a very interesting application of my huge collection. James Bergdahl Spokane, WA 509-835-5233 On 3/22/08, Giorgi Chaladze wrote: > > Hello, > I have question concerning pitfall traps, > I am using formalin as conserving liquid, however it hardens individuals > too much, > what do use as conservation liquid in pitfall traps? > Thanks, > Giorgi > > > Subject: Re: some photos from Peru From: Standa Krejcík <skrejcik AT seznam.cz> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:41:57 +0100 The Meloidae is Epicauta sp. Stanislav www.meloidae.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Westerduijn To: Rob Westerduijn ; keverdiscussiegroep Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: [coleoptera] some photos from Peru Hi all, some photos from beetles from amazonian Peru. Comments on identification are welcomed. There are two Cerambycidae, a Carabidae, two Erotylidae, a Meloidae (Lytta?) and another species of Rutela. greetings from Iquitos, Rob Westerduijn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------